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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated Sburb. It's all but obvious due to the nature of the game that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the the main characters only find out later on.

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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated Sburb. It's all but obvious due to the nature of the game It later turns out that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the the main characters only find out later on.it.
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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalypseWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.

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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalypseWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] the nature of the game that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) characters only find out later on.
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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in ''Webcomic/Homestuck'' gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated game Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalypseWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.

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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in ''Webcomic/Homestuck'' Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated game Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalypseWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.
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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in [[Webcomic/Homestuck]] gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated game Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalyspeWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.

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* The gaming magazine [=GameBro=] in [[Webcomic/Homestuck]] ''Webcomic/Homestuck'' gives a so-so review to the highly anticipated game Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalyspeWow [[ApocalypseWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.
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* The gaming magazine [==GameBro==] in Webcomic/Homestuck gives a so-so review to Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalyspeWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.

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* The gaming magazine [==GameBro==] in Webcomic/Homestuck gives a so-so review to Sburb. It's all but obvious due to [[TheGamePlaysYou the]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt nature]] [[RocksFallEveryoneDies of]] [[ApocalyspeWow the]] [[StableTimeLoop game]] that the reviewer hasn't likely even touched it, although the audience (and the main characters) only find out later on.
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'':
** Robert Novak, frequent target of {{Take That}}s due to his role in the Valerie Plame affair, was asked in an interview whether he'd ever seen ''The Daily Show'' or any of its material on him; he said no, then promptly went on to describe Jon as "self-righteous" and a "phony" and so forth. The old incident of Geraldo Rivera ranting to Bill O'Reilly about how TDS and TCR "exist in a small little place where they count for nothing" is most likely also an example, since he cited their supposed use of [[Series/AmericasFunniestHomeVideos "video of old ladies slipping on ice and people laughing,"]] which are not exactly Stewart and Colbert's stock in trade. (We would say these were in-universe examples, except y'know, it happened in ''[[RealLife this]]'' [[RealLife universe]]).
** Jon Stewart also lampshaded this in regards to ''Film/{{Noah}}'', with FOX complaining about it using the word "Creator" instead of "God". Jon Stewart points out that in the movie, Noah's son says that the Creator is God. It is then taken a step further with some of their complaints showing that they must not have read [[Literature/TheBible the source material]] either.
* ''Series/SiskelAndEbert'': Whenever they report on groups protesting a controversial movie, such as ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' or ''Film/GetOnTheBus'': They say the groups' criticisms are invalid if they haven't actually seen the movie in question (and in nearly all cases, they hadn't).
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'':
** Robert Novak, frequent target of {{Take That}}s due to his role in the Valerie Plame affair, was asked in an interview whether he'd ever seen ''The Daily Show'' or any of its material on him; he said no, then promptly went on to describe Jon as "self-righteous" and a "phony" and so forth. The old incident of Geraldo Rivera ranting to Bill O'Reilly about how TDS and TCR "exist in a small little place where they count for nothing" is most likely also an example, since he cited their supposed use of [[Series/AmericasFunniestHomeVideos "video of old ladies slipping on ice and people laughing,"]] which are not exactly Stewart and Colbert's stock in trade. (We would say these were in-universe examples, except y'know, it happened in ''[[RealLife this]]'' [[RealLife universe]]).
** Jon Stewart also lampshaded this in regards to ''Film/{{Noah}}'', with FOX complaining about it using the word "Creator" instead of "God". Jon Stewart points out that in the movie, Noah's son says that the Creator is God. It is then taken a step further with some of their complaints showing that they must not have read [[Literature/TheBible the source material]] either.
* ''Series/SiskelAndEbert'': Whenever they report on groups protesting a controversial movie, such as ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' or ''Film/GetOnTheBus'': They say the groups' criticisms are invalid if they haven't actually seen the movie in question (and in nearly all cases, they hadn't).
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** Jon Stewart also lampshaded this in regards to ''Film/{{Noah}}'', with FOX complaining about it using the word "Creator" instead of "God". Jon Stewart points out that in the movie, Noah's son says that the Creator is God. It is then taken a step further with some of there complaints showing that they must not have read [[Literature/TheBible the source material]] either.

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** Jon Stewart also lampshaded this in regards to ''Film/{{Noah}}'', with FOX complaining about it using the word "Creator" instead of "God". Jon Stewart points out that in the movie, Noah's son says that the Creator is God. It is then taken a step further with some of there their complaints showing that they must not have read [[Literature/TheBible the source material]] either.
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Note, this doesn't mean you have to sit through an entire movie/play an entire game/watch every episode/listen to every song on the album/read every single page to criticize any pieces of work. It just means you [[ShownTheirWork make sure your criticism is valid]]. PopculturalOsmosis is far from authoritative, and it often leads to [[BeamMeUpScotty blatantly false information]].

If you want to comment on the quality of something, try to actually watch/read/play/listen to at least a substantial part of that work.

Or what if there is a genuine DarthWiki/WallBanger? You may not even need to look at a work to know a DarthWiki/WallBanger is bad. Most of us know the shower scene in ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' was a damn stupid thing. Some of us know that M. Night Shyamalan casting himself as the indirect savior of mankind in ''Film/LadyInTheWater'' is a blatant case of MarySue. Yet even then, make sure the DarthWiki/WallBanger ''actually happened''. There is no rape option in any of the ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' games. The closest thing is one of the {{Villain}}s doing that in one of the games. ''Not'' the player character.



The inverse can happen as well. Someone could complain about a part of a show, and it may actually be worse than the person thinks. It's very rare, but it happens.

Also note that if a person decides they hate something before even watching it their opinion may be less than dependable.

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The inverse can happen as well. Someone A character could complain about a part of a show, and it may actually be worse than the person thinks. It's very rare, but it happens.

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An all too common phenomenon among people who bash things: they don't actually look at what they're bashing. These are the people who insult movies before they even come out, or claim a video game RatedMForMoney has more deplorable content than is actually there.

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* ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'': Larson apologized for the "Hell's Video Store" comic after actually ''watching'' the movie ''{{Ishtar}}'', because he had not seen it at the time he did the comic and had only used it because of its reputation. He later admitted that the movie was funny.
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* ''Fanfic/LightAndDarkTheAdventuresofDarkYagami'': One directed at ''Anime/CodeGeass''.
-->''"Suddenly a rocket WOOOSHED past and left a big line of smoke and a bang at the end where it missed but only the helicopter because it still hit another tower but it was okay because noone was in the tower except for that [[Anime/CodeGeass leloosh guy]] (MORE LIKE LELOSER AM I RIGHT!) an d everyone hates him so its cool except he has a giant robot [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch and also ive never seen it]]."''
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* ''Film/{{Matinee}}'': Citizens For Decent Entertainment protesting against ''Mant'' without having seen it. [[spoiler: It is, of course, a stunt to drum up publicity.]]
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* ''Literature/DonQuixote'': With Don Quixote: At Part II Chapter LIX, When Don Quixote hears someone talking how he is not more in love with Dulcinea del Toboso, he is full of wrath and indignation. So he read only a few pages of Avellaneda’s FanFiction about him. After a discussion of how this ContinuationFic is full of CharacterDerailment for Don Quixote and Sancho, Don Quixote believes that the book is bad and not worthy of his time or effort:
--> ''... though Don Juan wished Don Quixote to read more of the book to see what it was all about, he was not to be prevailed upon, saying that he treated it as read and pronounced it utterly silly; and, if by any chance it should come to its author's ears that he had it in his hand, he did not want him to flatter himself with the idea that he had read it; for our thoughts, and still more our eyes, should keep themselves aloof from what is obscene and filthy.''
* ''Literature/LordPeterWimsey'': Harriet attends a literary party, where a gang of authors take turns theorising why some thoroughly arty and undeserving novel has been awarded a reviewer's prize - because of advertising deals, or political loyalties, or familial connections, or other underhand reasons. Naturally, none of them have actually read the book, or have the faintest idea what it's even about.
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'':
** Robert Novak, frequent target of {{Take That}}s due to his role in the Valerie Plame affair, was asked in an interview whether he'd ever seen ''The Daily Show'' or any of its material on him; he said no, then promptly went on to describe Jon as "self-righteous" and a "phony" and so forth. The old incident of Geraldo Rivera ranting to Bill O'Reilly about how TDS and TCR "exist in a small little place where they count for nothing" is most likely also an example, since he cited their supposed use of [[Series/AmericasFunniestHomeVideos "video of old ladies slipping on ice and people laughing,"]] which are not exactly Stewart and Colbert's stock in trade. (We would say these were in-universe examples, except y'know, it happened in ''[[RealLife this]]'' [[RealLife universe]]).
** Jon Stewart also lampshaded this in regards to ''Film/{{Noah}}'', with FOX complaining about it using the word "Creator" instead of "God". Jon Stewart points out that in the movie, Noah's son says that the Creator is God. It is then taken a step further with some of there complaints showing that they
must not have read [[Literature/TheBible the source material]] either.
* ''Series/SiskelAndEbert'': Whenever they report on groups protesting a controversial movie, such as ''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist'' or ''Film/GetOnTheBus'': They say the groups' criticisms are invalid if they haven't actually seen the movie in question (and in nearly all cases, they hadn't).
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* ''VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptuniaVictory'': The trophy you get for simply starting the game [[TakeThatCritics questions how many reviewers will actually have that trophy]].
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* ''Webcomic/ScrambledEggs'': Quint hates Jimmy Zoopie-Doo purely because of overexposure and his own lack of faith that teen singers can produce quality songs; the only Zoopie-Doo song he ever heard was a ''[[Series/{{Glee}} Gee]]'' cast member's [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/scrambledeggs/index.php?issue=8&page=13 cover]], which to Quint's credit, [[StylisticSuck has pretty awful lyrics]].
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* Creator/BobChipman: In the ''Intermission'' editorial [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/moviebob/10126-Tortured-Logic "Tortured Logic"]] concerning ''Film/ZeroDarkThirty'', he addressed the controversy over the film's depiction of EnhancedInterrogationTechniques. He wonders exactly where this controversy came from, given not only the film's BlackAndGrayMorality, but also the fact that it quite explicitly averts TortureAlwaysWorks, showing it failing to secure intel on an impending terrorist attack -- [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch precisely the opposite of the claim]] that the film was an endorsement of the {{CIA}}'s use of torture.
* ''TheDefrosters'': It's implied that Pixel Girl's hatred of ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' is this.
* ''WebVideo/DVDRHell'': ''Rock: It's Your Decision'' did some terrible research on the songs it vilified. Brad quickly called the movie out for this, debunking ''each and every one'' of the movie's arguments. A particularly bad example on the movie's part:
-->'''Jeff''': ''(providing "[[{{Demonization}} examples]]" of [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell Satanic songs]])'' "Evil Ways" and "Soul Sacrifice" by Music/{{Santana}}.
-->'''Brad''': Yes, [[SarcasmMode I can see how you would have misinterpreted the line]], '''"You've got to change your evil ways."'''
* ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'': During Silver's Radical Train, Arin and Jon have a long conversation about VideoGame/BioshockInfinite that lasts about two episodes, with Arin being critical of it despite having barely played it. Two weeks later, once Arin had actually finished it, he tweeted that he liked it.
* ''WebVideo/{{Hadriex}}'': [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxLgFbNPB9s "You never really played this game did you?" "Of course not, if would have melted my cerebellum."]]
* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick'':
** She's put her foot down about ''never'' doing ''Anime/SailorMoon'' because she didn't grow up with it, says she wouldn't do it justice and hates it so much "I now hate sushi by cultural association."
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] with her ''{{Jem}}'' review, which she has admitted was done only because she felt pressured by it's 'girly nostalgia', despite the fact she was not a fan nor ever watched the show as a kid.
* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'':
** Critic reviewing ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'', ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' and [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} the anime series]] ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' was based off of. He admitted he had never actually seen them, but argued in the latter case that it could
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** He received criticism for reviewing Thomas and the Magic Railroad and stating that he has never seen [[ThomasTheTankEngine the show the movie was based on.]] This is featured in his third "Top 11 Fuck Ups" video and he states that he has done this before (like his Pokemon review mentioned above) and he received a lot of requests by fans to review the movie so he did.
* ''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment'':
** {{Lampshaded}} in that he's never actually played ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'', beyond maybe two hours, but avoided it ''solely'' because he hated the art style, and hadn't been paying any attention to the first two hours, since he wrote Zidane off as an "androgynous-whiny-pansy-ass character". He also admitted that "it was likely that [he] was being fiercely unfair" to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' on judging it by its art style, especially when the game was specifically targeted at fans of the NES and SuperNintendo-era Franchise/FinalFantasy games like him, but he just couldn't get over it. He elaborated in his Q&A at [=MAGfest=], and admitted his reasons for avoiding it were entirely childish, and he really can't stand the art style so much that he simply can't make himself keep playing. [[invoked]]
** Also admitted to never playing the ''Worlds of Ultima'' spin-off games because they were based on the Ultima VI game engine, which he hated.
** In his (alternate) Worst Films of 2010 list, he included ''LittleFockers'' just because he hated the jokes in previous movies involving Ben Stiller's character's name. He admitted to never even watching it. By alternate, we mean Spoony compiled a second list of movies that would be horrible and would probably be on his main list if he managed to watch them. Included were ''Film/BloodRayne 3'' and ''The Nutcracker'' in 3-D.
* ''WebVideo/StuartAshen'': In the 2012 Halloween special the Silver Skull reviews a number of horror films sold in Poundland despite not having seen any of them.
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* ''WesternAnimation/IAmWeasel'': Baboon in a "A Troo Storee":
-->'''Weasel''': [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Don't you see what this means you brainless louth? You wrote a book so bad, that it makes people stupid instead of smart!]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Why did i trust you?! What was I thinking!?]] [[WhatTheHellHero Your book has ruined the world!]]
-->'''Baboon''': [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch You say book is bad? But you never even read it yet!]]
* ''WesternAnimation/LibertysKids'': Sarah villifies Creator/ThomasPaine's "Common Sense" even when she meets the author personally. Once she gives it a read, she learns to at least appreciate it.
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': Creator/LaurenFaust expected this to happen, as evidenced by this quote:
-->'''Lauren Faust''': When I took the job, I braced myself for criticism, expecting many people -- [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch without even watching the show]] -- to instantly label it girly, stupid, cheap, for babies or an evil corporate commercial. I encourage skeptics like this to watch ''My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic'' with an open mind. If I'm doing my job right, I think you'll be surprised.
* ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'':
-->''Candace is examining a row of books with no visible titles''\\
'''Candace:''' Boring, dull, stupid, lame, heavy-handed and derivitive.\\
'''Mom:''' Oh, thank you for those insightful reviews of books... you haven't read.
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An all too common phenomenon among people who bash things: they don't actually look at what they're bashing. These are the people who insult movies before they even come out, or claim a video game RatedMForMoney has more deplorable content than is actually there (see the page quote).

Note, this doesn't mean you have to sit through an entire movie/play an entire game/watch every episode/listen to every song on the album/read every single page to criticize any pieces of work. It just means you [[ShownTheirWork make sure your criticism is valid]]. PopculturalOsmosis is far from authoritative, and it usually leads to [[BeamMeUpScotty blatantly false information]].

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Note, this doesn't mean you have to sit through an entire movie/play an entire game/watch every episode/listen to every song on the album/read every single page to criticize any pieces of work. It just means you [[ShownTheirWork make sure your criticism is valid]]. PopculturalOsmosis is far from authoritative, and it usually often leads to [[BeamMeUpScotty blatantly false information]].
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Or what if there is a genuine DarthWiki/WallBanger? You may not even need to look at a work to know a DarthWiki/WallBanger is bad. Most of us know the shower scene in ''{{Dallas}}'' was a damn stupid thing. Some of us know that M. Night Shyamalan casting himself as the indirect savior of mankind in ''{{Lady in the Water}}'' is a blatant case of MarySue. Yet even then, make sure the DarthWiki/WallBanger ''actually happened''. There is no rape option in any of the ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' games. The closest thing is one of the {{Villain}}s doing that in one of the games. ''Not'' the player character.

Also, sometimes this can be {{invoked| trope}} if some leave out the full context of complaints [[{{Demonization}} to make a show they don't like look bad]].

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Or what if there is a genuine DarthWiki/WallBanger? You may not even need to look at a work to know a DarthWiki/WallBanger is bad. Most of us know the shower scene in ''{{Dallas}}'' ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' was a damn stupid thing. Some of us know that M. Night Shyamalan casting himself as the indirect savior of mankind in ''{{Lady in the Water}}'' ''Film/LadyInTheWater'' is a blatant case of MarySue. Yet even then, make sure the DarthWiki/WallBanger ''actually happened''. There is no rape option in any of the ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' games. The closest thing is one of the {{Villain}}s doing that in one of the games. ''Not'' the player character.

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An all too common phenomenon among people who bash things: they [[DidNotDoTheResearch don't actually look]] at what they're bashing. These are the people who insult movies before they even come out, or claim a video game RatedMForMoney has more deplorable content than is actually there (see the page quote).

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An all too common phenomenon among people who bash things: they [[DidNotDoTheResearch don't actually look]] look at what they're bashing. These are the people who insult movies before they even come out, or claim a video game RatedMForMoney has more deplorable content than is actually there (see the page quote).
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Or what if there is a genuine DarthWiki/WallBanger? You may not even need to look at a work to know a DarthWiki/WallBanger is bad. Most of us know the shower scene in ''{{Dallas}}'' was a damn stupid thing. Some of us know that M. Night Shyamalan casting himself as the indirect savior of mankind in ''{{Lady in the Water}}'' is a blatant case of MarySue. Yet even then, make sure the DarthWiki/WallBanger ''actually happened''. There is no rape option in any of the ''GrandTheftAuto'' games. The closest thing is one of the {{Villain}}s doing that in one of the games. ''Not'' the player character.

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Or what if there is a genuine DarthWiki/WallBanger? You may not even need to look at a work to know a DarthWiki/WallBanger is bad. Most of us know the shower scene in ''{{Dallas}}'' was a damn stupid thing. Some of us know that M. Night Shyamalan casting himself as the indirect savior of mankind in ''{{Lady in the Water}}'' is a blatant case of MarySue. Yet even then, make sure the DarthWiki/WallBanger ''actually happened''. There is no rape option in any of the ''GrandTheftAuto'' ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' games. The closest thing is one of the {{Villain}}s doing that in one of the games. ''Not'' the player character.
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Also, sometimes this can be [[InvokedTrope invoked]] if some leave out the full context of complaints [[{{Demonization}} to make a show they don't like look bad]].

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Also, sometimes this can be [[InvokedTrope invoked]] {{invoked| trope}} if some leave out the full context of complaints [[{{Demonization}} to make a show they don't like look bad]].



See also MoralGuardians, who do this a lot. Additionally, lack of research may lead someone, even unintentionally, to commit an act of HypocriticalFandom. Frequently springs from DidNotDoTheResearch. When people actually ''do'' watch the show, you get DontLikeDontRead.

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See also MoralGuardians, who do this a lot. Additionally, lack of research may lead someone, even unintentionally, to commit an act of HypocriticalFandom. Frequently springs from DidNotDoTheResearch.a CriticalResearchFailure. When people actually ''do'' watch the show, you get DontLikeDontRead.
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->''"Gayle Slossberg has a problem: She wants confirmation of the rumored rape scene in GrandTheftAutoIV -- but she can't reach that level of the game. The Milford state senator's never played GTA, but she fears it's corrupting the youth and thinks a law requiring better warning labels might be the fix. She told the Nose as much at a Capitol press conference last week."''
-->--[[http://www.newhavenadvocate.com/featured-news/grand-theft-morals.html New Haven Advocate]] article.

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->''"Gayle Slossberg has a problem: She wants confirmation of the rumored rape scene in GrandTheftAutoIV -- but she can't reach that level of the game. The Milford state senator's never played GTA, but she fears it's corrupting the youth and thinks a law requiring better warning labels might be the fix. She told the Nose as much at a Capitol press conference last week."''
-->--[[http://www.newhavenadvocate.com/featured-news/grand-theft-morals.html New Haven Advocate]] article.

An all too common phenomenon among people who bash things: they [[DidNotDoTheResearch don't actually look]] at what they're bashing. These are the people who insult movies before they even come out, or claim a video game RatedMForMoney has more deplorable content than is actually there (see the page quote).

Note, this doesn't mean you have to sit through an entire movie/play an entire game/watch every episode/listen to every song on the album/read every single page to criticize any pieces of work. It just means you [[ShownTheirWork make sure your criticism is valid]]. PopculturalOsmosis is far from authoritative, and it usually leads to [[BeamMeUpScotty blatantly false information]].

If you want to comment on the quality of something, try to actually watch/read/play/listen to at least a substantial part of that work.

Or what if there is a genuine DarthWiki/WallBanger? You may not even need to look at a work to know a DarthWiki/WallBanger is bad. Most of us know the shower scene in ''{{Dallas}}'' was a damn stupid thing. Some of us know that M. Night Shyamalan casting himself as the indirect savior of mankind in ''{{Lady in the Water}}'' is a blatant case of MarySue. Yet even then, make sure the DarthWiki/WallBanger ''actually happened''. There is no rape option in any of the ''GrandTheftAuto'' games. The closest thing is one of the {{Villain}}s doing that in one of the games. ''Not'' the player character.

Also, sometimes this can be [[InvokedTrope invoked]] if some leave out the full context of complaints [[{{Demonization}} to make a show they don't like look bad]].

Some people have pointed fingers at reviewers and gaming magazines for doing this with games that aren't "Politically important" (which here means, "Are published by big-name companies like Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, EA, Activision, Square-Enix, Valve, and therefore bring a lot of money in via Advertisements"), which tend to get less detailed reviews than some other games. Rather, it's more of a bias since some of these less politically important games get less time devoted to them, but there have been some cases in which it seems like they didn't play that much.

The inverse can happen as well. Someone could complain about a part of a show, and it may actually be worse than the person thinks. It's very rare, but it happens.

Also note that if a person decides they hate something before even watching it their opinion may be [[{{Understatement}} less than dependable...]]

Related:

* AnimationAgeGhetto
* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer
* FanHater
* {{Hatedom}}
* HateDumb
* HypeAversion
* PeripheryHatedom
* RuinedFOREVER
* ShallowParody
* TaintedByThePreview

See also MoralGuardians, who do this a lot. Additionally, lack of research may lead someone, even unintentionally, to commit an act of HypocriticalFandom. Frequently springs from DidNotDoTheResearch. When people actually ''do'' watch the show, you get [=~Don't Like, Don't Read~=].

The opposite is PraisingShowsYouDontWatch.
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