History Main / CampUnsafeIsntSafeAnymore

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---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\

Seventh book: Nearly the ''entire school'' rebels against the people in charge.

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* {{The Fire-us Trilogy}} sees the children take up shop in a mall [[spoiler:run by a bunch of Christian cultists]] and stay there for awhile. While Angerman is convinced pretty much from the start that the Crossroads Mall is bad news, the others take longer to get it. This is mostly due to the fact that they ''really, really'' wanted to believe it was a safe place for them.

** The [[ComicBook/TheWalkingDead original comic]] has the campsite thing, along with the survivors setting up shop in an apparently abandoned, gated subdivision. Very temporarily.

* In ''Film/{{Admiral}}'', Admiral Kolchak's family is hiding from revolutionaries in a small house in Crimea, which they consider safe until the only loyal seaman comes with warnings that the revolutionary seamen are coming for them. It's [[RedOctober Civil War era Russia]], and a place close to a naval base to boot (Navy seamen were among the most hardcore revolutionaries), so it was naive to think it's possible to hide in this place.

* In ''Film/Admiral'', Admiral Kolchak's family is hiding from revolutionaries in a small house in Crimea, which they consider safe until the only loyal seaman comes with warnings that the revolutionary seamen are coming for them. It's [[RedOctober Civil War era Russia]], and a place close to a naval base to boot (Navy seamen were among the most hardcore revolutionaries), so it was naive to think it's possible to hide in this place.

* In ''ResidentEvilOutbreak'', the level "The Hive" opens in Raccoon City Hospital. There are zombies bashing on the front doors, the doctors are gone, the halls are filled with bloodstains and corpses. The first thing the last surviving doctor says is "This hospital is not as safe as it may look or sound." Thanks.

* In at least two of the ''Film/HarryPotter'' films (''HarryPotter/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' and ''HarryPotter/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Later in the series, during ''HalfBloodPrince'', Harry actually says, "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?" as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years. Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.

* In at least two of the ''Film/HarryPotter'' films (''ChamberOfSecrets'' and ''GobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Later in the series, during ''HalfBloodPrince'', Harry actually says, "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?" as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years. Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.

* ''TheWalkingDead'': The main characters are investigating an old department store when the sheriff's deputy arrives and basically alerts all the zombies in the city to their presence by shooting at some of them. One of the characters says something like: "You just rang the dinner bell," as if the zombies pounding on the department store's glass doors ''already'' wouldn't have made them unsafe anyway. No, no... the sheriff got them in trouble when they would have been perfectly and completely safe otherwise.

* In ''[[GearsOfWar Gears of War 2]]'', a stranded soldier claims "the surface wasn't safe anymore". Yes-- all of a sudden the surface, which is crawling with locusts, infested with flying piranha krill at night, and goes through regular bouts of razor hail, is not safe!

* ''DawnOfTheDead'': In both versions, the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, but later discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food.

* In at least two of the ''Film/HarryPotter'' films (''ChamberOfSecrets'' and ''GobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.
** And then later in the series, during ''HalfBloodPrince'', Harry actually says, "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?" as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years.
** Or assuming that Hogwarts is ''still'' the safest place, that would mean the rest of the world is even worse.
** Of course, most of the time the reason of Hogwarts's unsafeness is because Voldemort is targeting it. Usually because something he wants is there. And it's there ''because'' Hogwarts is the safest place, which makes it a self-defeating safety (quite like in ''PanicRoom'' where said room turns out dangerous because the what the intruders want is inside).

* In ''[[GearsOfWar Gears of War 2]]'', a stranded soldier claims "the surface wasn't safe anymore". Yes-- all of a sudden the surface, which is crawling with locusts, infested with flying piranha krill at night, and goes through regular bouts of razor hale, is not safe!

* ''DawnOfTheDead'': In both versions, the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, but later discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food, and the zombies ''will'' get in sooner or later.

* In the second Percy Jackson book, ''[[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters]]'', [[spoiler:Camp Half Blood]] is "no longer safe" because someone has [[spoiler:poisoned Thalia's pine tree]], which usually keeps the camp safe from outside monsters. However, the camp was never safe from anyone on the inside who wanted to hurt anyone else on the inside, as demonstrated by the ending of the first book.

* In the second Percy Jackson book, ''[[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters]]'', Camp Half Blood is "no longer safe" because someone has poisoned Thalia's pine tree, which usually keeps the camp safe from outside monsters. However, the camp was never safe from anyone on the inside who wanted to hurt anyone else on the inside, as demonstrated by the ending of the first book.

Not to be confused with SafeZoneHopeSpot, where the characters never thought their location was all that safe in the first place. Also, this trope doesn't apply if the characters never realize the danger they were in.

* In at least two of the ''HarryPotter'' films (''ChamberOfSecrets'' and ''GobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.

* In ''[[GearsOfWar Gears of War 2]]'', a stranded soldier claims "the surface wasn't safe anymore". Yes all of a sudden the surface, which is crawling with locusts, infested with flying piranha krill at night, and goes through regular bouts of razor hale, is not safe!

* ''MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNimh'': Mrs. Frisby suddenly realizes that she has to move her house or risk it getting run over by the plow, but her house has been in that location for years before she arrived there, and thus has ''always'' been at risk from the plow.

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But it's only ''now'', with the latest incident, someone finally says, "I don't think this place isn't safe anymore." The other characters react to this fell declaration with shock and horror as if it surprised them to find their asylum to be penetrable.

The characters have found and occupied a place to rest, recuperate, and plan without interference from their enemies. They consider the location as safe and secure as your average bank vault... until suddenly something happens and someone says "We're not safe here anymore." The irony being that the site was never that safe and secure, despite what the characters thought. The location has been the site of zombie invasions and vampire attacks, there have been frequent murders, the place gets robbed on a daily basis, terrorists infiltrate, and the main characters have nearly died a dozen times.

But its only ''now'', with the latest incident, someone finally says "I don't think this place isn't safe anymore." The other characters react to this fell declaration with shock and horror as though it surprises them to find their asylum to be penetrable.

** And then later in the series, during ''HalfBloodPrince'', Harry actually says "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?", as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years.
* ''DawnOfTheDead:'' In both versions, the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, only later to discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food, and the zombies ''will'' get in sooner or later.

* ''MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNimh:'' Mrs. Frisby suddenly realizes that she has to move her house or risk it getting run over by the plow, but her house has been in that location for years before she arrived there, and thus has ''always'' been at risk from the plow.
* In the second Percy Jackson book, ''[[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jacksonon and the Sea of Monsters]], Camp Half Blood is "no longer safe" because someone has poisoned Thalia's pine tree, which usually keeps the camp safe from outside monsters. However, the camp was never safe from anyone on the inside who wanted to hurt anyone else on the inside, as demonstrated by the ending of the first book.

* ''TheWalkingDead:'' The characters are investigating an old department store when the sheriff's deputy arrives and basically alerts all the zombies in the city to their presence by shooting at some of them. One of the characters says something like: "you just rang the dinner bell," as if the zombies pounding on the department store's glass doors ''already'' wouldn't have made them unsafe anyway. No, no... the sheriff got them in trouble when they would have been perfectly and completely safe otherwise.

* In [[GearsOfWar Gears of War 2]], a stranded soldier claims "the surface wasn't safe anymore". Yes all of a sudden the surface, which is crawling with locusts, infested with flying piranha krill at night, and goes through regular bouts of razor hale, is not safe!

** And then later in the series, during ''HalfBloodBrince'', Harry actually says "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?", as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years.