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10th Jun '16 2:34:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Film/DawnOfTheDead'' and [[Film/DawnOfTheDead2004 its remake]], the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, but later discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food.

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* In ''Film/DawnOfTheDead'' ''Film/DawnOfTheDead1978'' and [[Film/DawnOfTheDead2004 its remake]], the characters begin the film believing that a mall is the perfect hiding place, but later discover they cannot stay there forever because eventually they're going to run out of food.
28th Apr '16 7:04:23 PM TVRulezAgain
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* In ''ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'', the orphans must send a message that "The Last Safe Place is safe no more". Given [[CrapsackWorld the kind of world they live in]], it should come as no surprise that the Hotel Denouement wasn't all that safe to begin with.

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* In ''ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'', ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'', the orphans must send a message that "The Last Safe Place is safe no more". Given [[CrapsackWorld the kind of world they live in]], it should come as no surprise that the Hotel Denouement wasn't all that safe to begin with.
8th Oct '15 10:35:47 PM nombretomado
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* In the second Percy Jackson book, ''[[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters]]'', [[spoiler:Camp Half Blood]] is "no longer safe" because someone has poisoned Thalia's pine tree, which usually keeps the camp safe from outside monsters. However, the camp was never safe from anyone on the inside who wanted to hurt anyone else on the inside, as demonstrated by the ending of the first book.

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* In the second Percy Jackson book, ''[[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians ''[[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson and the Sea of Monsters]]'', [[spoiler:Camp Half Blood]] is "no longer safe" because someone has poisoned Thalia's pine tree, which usually keeps the camp safe from outside monsters. However, the camp was never safe from anyone on the inside who wanted to hurt anyone else on the inside, as demonstrated by the ending of the first book.
15th Nov '14 7:10:36 AM ironballs16
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** In the [[VideoGame/TheWalkingDead video game]], the characters set up camp in a barricaded motor inn, which to be fair actually does look safe...for about fifteen minutes until the power goes out. Despite the ever-increasing number of walkers and bandits, whether to stay the winter or move on becomes a major argument.

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** In the [[VideoGame/TheWalkingDead video game]], the characters set up camp in a barricaded motor inn, which to be fair actually does look safe...for about fifteen minutes until the power goes out. Despite the ever-increasing number of walkers and bandits, whether to stay the winter or move on becomes a major argument. Either maintain security and hope for some unexpected food source to emerge, or leave the (relative) security of the Inn in search of a different place ''and'' an unexpected food source.
4th Feb '14 1:49:42 AM erforce
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* In at least two of the ''Film/HarryPotter'' films (''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' and ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Later in the series, during ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half-Blood Prince]]'', Harry actually says, "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?" as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years. Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.

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* In at least two of the ''Film/HarryPotter'' films (''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' (''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' and ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''), ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''), different characters state outright that "Hogwarts isn't safe anymore", which naturally leads to the question "When the hell was Hogwarts ever safe?" Later in the series, during ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half-Blood Prince]]'', Harry actually says, "This is Hogwarts we're talking about. It's Dumbledore. What could be safer?" as if he hadn't been living through the previous five years. Hogwarts has been the site of murders and violence, the framing of innocents along with the permanent derailment of their careers, the attempted wrongful execution of the innocent, and the near deaths of many characters.



** Of course, most of the time the reason of Hogwarts's unsafeness is because Voldemort is targeting it. Usually because something he wants is there. And it's there ''because'' Hogwarts is the safest place, which makes it a self-defeating safety (quite like in ''PanicRoom'' where said room turns out dangerous because what the intruders want is inside).

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** Of course, most of the time the reason of Hogwarts's unsafeness is because Voldemort is targeting it. Usually because something he wants is there. And it's there ''because'' Hogwarts is the safest place, which makes it a self-defeating safety (quite like in ''PanicRoom'' ''Film/PanicRoom'' where said room turns out dangerous because what the intruders want is inside).
3rd Nov '13 3:22:21 PM CloverRose16
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[[note]]---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\

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[[note]]---->In ---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\



Seventh book: Nearly the ''entire school'' rebels against the people in charge.[[/note]]

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3rd Nov '13 3:21:50 PM CloverRose16
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---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\

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---->In [[note]]---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\



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20th Jul '13 3:31:47 AM Megafierce
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*** As well, in every case, the rest of the reason Hogwarts is unsafe is because it's an inside job.
---->In the first book, one of the guardians of the Stone, who was in on the entire setup of its defenses, is TheDragon for that particular novel... and it ''still'' takes him nearly a full year before he dares to try to seize the Stone. And then he '''''still''''' gets [[IncrediblyLamePun Stone]]-walled at the final layer. \\
Second book: The attacks are all done by someone who has ''no reason'' to be suspected at ''any'' point in time, because she's being possessed without her knowledge, and isn't even ''indirectly'' connected to any of the events. The events also only occur because the perpetrator discovered the knowledge he needed and laid the groundwork for the events ''fifty years ago''.\\
Third book: The perpetrator of most of the terrifying events going on around the school was one of the ''mapmakers'' of the school's secret passageways decades ago. Oh, and a shapeshifter, not that anyone knew that.\\
Fourth book: Again, one of the intended guardians was TheDragon. And he ''only'' gets smoked out because he got careless ''after'' the events he'd set in motion occurred. \\
Fifth book: The castle ''never'' gets attacked. Instead, the ''entire Ministry of Magic'' is deserted, without even token security forces. And the insiders in the Ministry aren't actually implied to have ''done'' anything in particular to pull that off.\\
Sixth book: One person pulled off a ''lot'' of tricks to achieve the attack - most of them were either copied from or learned because of Harry and company's actions over the ''entire rest of the series.'' Even then, he was only allowed to run that freely because he was being forced to do what he did, and Dumbledore was partly hoping to try to find a way to help him out of the coercion before he had to act. \\
Seventh book: Nearly the ''entire school'' rebels against the people in charge.
17th Jun '13 12:17:27 PM Telcontar
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* {{The Fire-us Trilogy}} sees the children take up shop in a mall [[spoiler:run by a bunch of Christian cultists]] and stay there for awhile. While Angerman is convinced pretty much from the start that the Crossroads Mall is bad news, the others take longer to get it. This is mostly due to the fact that they ''really, really'' wanted to believe it was a safe place for them.

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* {{The Fire-us Trilogy}} Literature/TheFireUsTrilogy sees the children take up shop in a mall [[spoiler:run by a bunch of Christian cultists]] and stay there for awhile. While Angerman is convinced pretty much from the start that the Crossroads Mall is bad news, the others take longer to get it. This is mostly due to the fact that they ''really, really'' wanted to believe it was a safe place for them.
23rd Mar '13 8:56:49 PM TheGreatUnknown
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** The [[ComicBook/TheWalkingDead original comic]] has the campsite thing, along with the survivors setting up shop in an apparently abandoned, gated subdivision. Very temporarily.

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** The [[ComicBook/TheWalkingDead original comic]] has the campsite thing, along with the survivors setting up shop in an apparently abandoned, gated subdivision. Very temporarily.
temporarily.
** In the [[VideoGame/TheWalkingDead video game]], the characters set up camp in a barricaded motor inn, which to be fair actually does look safe...for about fifteen minutes until the power goes out. Despite the ever-increasing number of walkers and bandits, whether to stay the winter or move on becomes a major argument.
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