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* This trope is a common criticism of ''WillAndGrace ''regarding Will's lame love life.
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* ''TeamAmericaWorldPolice'' deconstructs (or quasi-subverts or whatever) this trope with two starkly different scenes of puppet-sex: when Gary performs fellatio on Spottswood to show his loyalty, the action is essentially off-camera, with only Spottswood's face visible; moreover, Spottswood is fully dressed and his only reaction to the BJ is to blink once or twice, and there are no sound effects suggestive of oral sex. In contrast, the sex between Gary and Lisa is fully nude, acrobatic, and extremely kinky -- and is accompanied by the song "Only a Woman," with lyrics that include: ''Only a woman / Is allowed to touch me there / All I ask is that you're a woman''
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* ''BrokebackMountain'' is a lot better in this aspect, but it still received a lot of accusations of using this trope.
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* The 1995 film ''Higher Learning'': Two college-age girls (one gay, the other bisexual) share a ''very'' chaste kiss where their lips barely touch and that lasts for only slightly more than a second. They are both in the privacy of the gay girl's bedroom and are not showing much skin. Then there's another love scene between a boy and a girl (both straight); they are making out more or less in public, and are in their skimpy track-and-field clothes, with the girl [[BareYourMidriff baring her midriff]]. The boy is ''right on top of the girl'', and the camera lingers on them a lot longer than on the two kissing girls. When this movie is shown on American television, it gets even worse: the girl-on-girl scene is cut ''entirely''! (We do see the girls briefly holding hands in both the theatrical and edited-for-TV versions, however.)
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* The 1995 film ''Higher Learning'': Two college-age girls (one gay, the other bisexual) share a ''very'' chaste kiss where their lips barely touch and that lasts for only slightly more than a second. They are both in the privacy of the gay girl's bedroom and are not showing much skin. Then there's another love scene between a boy and a girl (both straight); they are making out more or less in public, and are in their skimpy track-and-field clothes, with the girl [[BareYourMidriff baring her midriff]]. The boy is ''right on top of the girl'', and the camera lingers on them a lot longer than on the two kissing girls. When this movie is shown on American television, it gets even worse: the girl-on-girl scene is cut ''entirely''! (We do see the girls briefly holding hands in both the theatrical and edited-for-TV versions, however.)
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* ''PrettyLittleLiars'', in the series at least. While all of the other girls' got an average of two fairly steamy make out sessions a piece, Emily's share consisted of one kiss early on and one make out session in one of the last episodes, in between which she and her love interest barely talked due to a serious lack of communication about how open they should be.
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* ''PrettyLittleLiars'', in the series at least. While all of the other girls' got an average of two fairly steamy make out sessions a piece, Emily's share consisted of one kiss early on and one make out session in one of the last episodes, in between which she and her love interest barely talked due to a serious lack of communication about how open they should be.
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* Some would argue this is the case with MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha. There's ''tons'' of LesYay tones and subtext in the series, up and including two woman sharing a bed and [[HasTwoMommies raising a daughter together]], and plenty of mentioned gropping in the visual novels. But good luck seeing an actual kiss or explicit flirting in the actual show.
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* Some would argue this is the case with MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha. There's ''tons'' of ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' has LesYay tones overtones and subtext in the series, subtext. up and including two woman sharing a bed and [[HasTwoMommies raising a daughter together]], and plenty of mentioned gropping in the visual novels. But good luck seeing an actual kiss or explicit flirting in the actual show.
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* In ''TheFamilyStone'', Thad & Patrick never kiss.
* By far the most depressing example is ''INowPronounceYouChuckAndLarry'': the two characters that are (pretending) to be gay never kiss each other even during their own wedding ceremony (they hit each other instead). Why? Because the MPAA threatened to give them an 'R' rating and Adam Sandler wussed out.
* In [[{{ptitlev4gjvbhk}} Valentine's Day]], Sean and [[spoiler:Holden]] is the only couple that doesn't kiss at some point.
* By far the most depressing example is ''INowPronounceYouChuckAndLarry'': the two characters that are (pretending) to be gay never kiss each other even during their own wedding ceremony (they hit each other instead). Why? Because the MPAA threatened to give them an 'R' rating and Adam Sandler wussed out.
* In [[{{ptitlev4gjvbhk}} Valentine's Day]], Sean and [[spoiler:Holden]] is the only couple that doesn't kiss at some point.
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* In ''TheFamilyStone'', ''The Family Stone'', Thad & and Patrick never kiss.
*By far the most depressing example is ''INowPronounceYouChuckAndLarry'': the two characters that are (pretending) to be gay never kiss each other even during their own wedding ceremony (they -- they hit each other instead).instead. Why? Because the MPAA threatened to give them an 'R' rating and Adam Sandler wussed out.
* In[[{{ptitlev4gjvbhk}} ''[[{{ptitlev4gjvbhk}} Valentine's Day]], Day]]'', Sean and [[spoiler:Holden]] is the only couple that doesn't kiss at some point.
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* ''BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' - Willow and Tara were a couple for about eighteen episodes before they so much as kissed on-screen, probably partly for this and partly to avoid claims of sensationalism.
** This was {{The WB}}'s doing. {{Joss Whedon}} made sure to put their first on-screen kiss in "The Body" because it was a good character moment and it would keep the kiss from being the focus of the promos. When The WB initially refused to show the kiss, he threatened to quit (to the point of starting to pack up his office) and they relented. When the show moved to UPN, the lack of a standards & practices department allowed him to do what he wanted, leading to the first lesbian sex scene (at least one not played for {{fanservice}}) on network TV.
** This was {{The WB}}'s doing. {{Joss Whedon}} made sure to put their first on-screen kiss in "The Body" because it was a good character moment and it would keep the kiss from being the focus of the promos. When The WB initially refused to show the kiss, he threatened to quit (to the point of starting to pack up his office) and they relented. When the show moved to UPN, the lack of a standards & practices department allowed him to do what he wanted, leading to the first lesbian sex scene (at least one not played for {{fanservice}}) on network TV.
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* ''BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' - Willow and Tara were a couple for about eighteen episodes before they so much as kissed on-screen, probably partly for this and partly to avoid claims of sensationalism.
**sensationalism. This was {{The WB}}'s doing. {{Joss Whedon}} made sure to put their first on-screen kiss in "The Body" because it was a good character moment and it would keep the kiss from being the focus of the promos. When The WB initially refused to show the kiss, he threatened to quit (to the point of starting to pack up his office) and they relented. When the show moved to UPN, the lack of a standards & practices department allowed him to do what he wanted, leading to the first lesbian sex scene (at least one not played for {{fanservice}}) on network TV.
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* Ellen [=DeGeneres=]'s first sitcom was criticized for focusing too much on gay issues and lesbian relationships after she (and the character) came out. When she got a second sitcom with {{CBS}}, the character remained a lesbian, but it wasn't much of a focus. Likewise, Ellen is criticized herself for downplaying her sexuality in order to appeal to mainstream America with her talk show but she has mentioned her wife Portia de Rossi and marriage several times.
** Mind you, Ellen's on-stage persona has always been strongly asexual. Even before her coming out she always wore pantsuits and sported shortish haircuts, and her comedy routines never focused on sexuality, either gay or straight.
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* Ellen [=DeGeneres=]'s first sitcom was criticized for focusing too much on gay issues and lesbian relationships after she (and the character) came out. When she got a second sitcom with {{CBS}}, the character remained a lesbian, but it wasn't much of a focus. Likewise, Ellen is criticized herself for downplaying her sexuality in order to appeal to mainstream America with her talk show but she has mentioned her wife Portia de Rossi and marriage several times.
**times. Mind you, Ellen's on-stage persona has always been strongly asexual. Even before her coming out she always wore pantsuits and sported shortish haircuts, and her comedy routines never focused on sexuality, either gay or straight.
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* The CampGay Marc on ''UglyBetty'' never got to kiss any of his love interests (and yet he did kiss both Betty and Amanda for comedic reasons.) However, they were able to show a ground breaking kiss between the 15-year-old Justin and Austin, since the show had already been canceled by that point so there wasn't much risk.
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* The CampGay Marc on ''UglyBetty'' never got to kiss any of his love interests (and interests, and yet he did kiss both Betty and Amanda for comedic reasons.) reasons. However, they were able to show a ground breaking kiss between the 15-year-old Justin and Austin, since the show had already been canceled by that point so there wasn't much risk.
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* {{Degrassi}} waffles on this. Early seasons downplayed the interactions between same sex characters. However after the Paige and Alex relationship they seem to be okay with this, as Riley and Zane do publicly display affection on a fairly regular basis.
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* {{Degrassi}} ''{{Degrassi}}'' waffles on this. Early seasons downplayed the interactions between same sex characters. However after the Paige and Alex relationship they seem to be okay with this, as Riley and Zane do publicly display affection on a fairly regular basis.
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* ''Britannia High'' had Jez, in which his father mentions him being gay and Jez confirms it later on. There's also when a guy who likes Jez tells Lola, one of Jez's friends to ask him out for him, in which she does, but Jez thinks she's pointing to an ugly guy stood next to the other guy, who both have similar shirts. {{HilarityEnsues}}. However, this is never mentioned again and Jez does not get a boyfriend/kiss/hug/love interest at all. Instead, he gets a kiss ''from a girl''.
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* ''Britannia High'' had Jez, in which his father mentions him being gay and Jez confirms it later on. There's also when a guy who likes Jez tells Lola, one of Jez's friends to ask him out for him, in which she does, but Jez thinks she's pointing to an ugly guy stood next to the other guy, who both have similar shirts. {{HilarityEnsues}}. However, this is never mentioned again and Jez does not get a boyfriend/kiss/hug/love interest at all. Instead, he gets a kiss ''from a girl''.
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** So licking another guy's neck or his lip, calling him cute or princess, nipping his skin, and [[spoiler: raping him in volume 8]] isn't subtext? It sure did seem like it.
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** Amended further. When staying in the inn later in the same arc, Wiccan is sleeping, in a t-shirt and boxers in the same bed as Hulking with the latter's arm over him. Still no in-panel kiss though.
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** Amended further. When staying in the inn later in the same arc, Wiccan is sleeping, in a t-shirt and boxers in the same bed as Hulking with the latter's arm over him. Still no in-panel kiss though.
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* In the UK, there was an example a few years ago that beautifully illustrates this trope. A newspaper started a campaign complaining about the increasing amount of "filth" shown on television, and its examples were gay kisses and straight sex. (That the newspaper in question was The Daily Star, owned by a pornographer and not above cross-promotion, just makes things even more [[HypocriticalHumor delicious]])
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*** As of the latest season, Bob and Lee ''finally'' got a kiss when Gabby got them back together. [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] on that episode, though, as Gabby's paranoia about Bob trying to 'turn' her husband could come across as very [[UnfortunateImplications homopobic]], although to be fair, this only started after Lee told her all about Bob's sordid past as 'Flipper'. Then again, Gabby ''is'' the character who's shocked to find that, without his significant other, Bob ''doesn't'' fit all the gay stereotypes ([[SarcasmMode *gasp*]]), so this may be intentional on the writers' part.
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* The anime adaptation of ''TogainuNoChi'', originally a BoysLove {{Eroge}}, desexes hero Akira and his childhood friend Keisuke's relationship to subtext, hand-holding, and a couple of hugs. No love confessions allowed. Considering that [[spoiler:Keisuke raping Akira]] is a large part of this route of the game, it's actually detrimental to the plot. The manga removes even the subtext, but its greater length allows it to deal with the plot holes much better.
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* Some would argue this is the case with MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha. There's ''tons'' of LesYay tones and subtext in the series, up and including two woman sharing a bed and [[HasTwoMommies raising a daughter together]], and plenty of mentioned gropping in the visual novels. But good luck seeing an actual kiss or explicit flirting in the actual show.
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* The 1995 film ''Higher Learning'': Two college-age girls (one gay, the other bisexual) share a ''very'' chaste kiss where their lips barely touch and that lasts for only slightly more than a second. They are both in the privacy of the gay girl's bedroom and are not showing much skin. Then there's another love scene between a boy and a girl (both straight); they are making out more or less in public, and are in their skimpy track-and-field clothes, with the girl [[BareYourMidriff baring her midriff]]. The boy is ''right on top of the girl'', and the camera lingers on them a lot longer than on the two kissing girls. When this movie is shown on American television, it gets even worse: the girl-on-girl scene is cut ''entirely''!
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* The 1995 film ''Higher Learning'': Two college-age girls (one gay, the other bisexual) share a ''very'' chaste kiss where their lips barely touch and that lasts for only slightly more than a second. They are both in the privacy of the gay girl's bedroom and are not showing much skin. Then there's another love scene between a boy and a girl (both straight); they are making out more or less in public, and are in their skimpy track-and-field clothes, with the girl [[BareYourMidriff baring her midriff]]. The boy is ''right on top of the girl'', and the camera lingers on them a lot longer than on the two kissing girls. When this movie is shown on American television, it gets even worse: the girl-on-girl scene is cut ''entirely''!
''entirely''! (We do see the girls briefly holding hands in both the theatrical and edited-for-TV versions, however.)
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*** To be fair, it was done that way deliberately, and it was very well played. As such, they kiss again in the next episode in a way more visible and casual scene.
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* The 1995 film ''Higher Learning'': Two college-age girls (one gay, the other bisexual) share a ''very'' chaste kiss where their lips barely touch and that lasts for only slightly more than a second. They are both in the privacy of the gay girl's bedroom and are not showing much skin. Then there's another love scene between a boy and a girl (both straight); they are making out more or less in public, and are in their skimpy track-and-field clothes, with the girl [[BareYourMidriff baring her midriff]]. The boy is ''right on top of the girl'', and the camera lingers on them a lot longer than on the two kissing girls. When this movie is shown on American television, it gets even worse: the girl-on-girl scene is cut ''entirely''!
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* This is both averted and played straight on BrothersAndSisters: Kevin and Scotty make out as much as any married couple on the show, and before the marriage Kevin made out with plenty of hot guest stars. Saul, however, rarely has an onscreen kiss.
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kiss, which could be tied to NobodyOver50IsGay.
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* This is both averted and played straight on BrothersAndSisters: Kevin and Scotty make out as much as any married couple on the show, and before the marriage Kevin made out with plenty of hot guest stars. Saul, however, rarely has an onscreen kiss.
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The question of wether they are shown ot the same extrent as the stright romances, not wether they are shown at all.
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As I recall, the boy kisses are shown?
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* Curtis, the protagonist of ''{{Phantasmagoria 2}}'', has three love interests -- two women and one guy. The women both get multiple sex scenes. The guy? Well, they ''almost'' kiss. Apparently, showing men actually kissing is [[strike:sick and wrong]] much edgier than showing fairly explicit straight BDSM.
* The bisexual boys in ''{{Bully}}''.
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* Curtis, the protagonist of ''{{Phantasmagoria 2}}'', has three love interests -- two women and one guy. The women both get multiple sex scenes. The guy? Well, they ''almost'' kiss. Apparently, showing men actually kissing is [[strike:sick and wrong]] much edgier than showing fairly explicit straight BDSM.
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->(Do not drink. That is not gay. That is TV gay.)''
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* There's an in-universe example from [[http://www.baseportal.de/cgi-bin/baseportal.pl?htx=/honeycakehorse/Circles_of_Power Circles of Power]]. After they have graduated from Hogwarts, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, Dean, Seamus and Neville all share a house. Harry and Ron also happen to be a couple, and there's a house rule that they are not to show affection towards each other when there's other people around. In the beginning no one really seems to think it's strange, but toward the end it becomes an isse. At one point, Ron gets scolded for putting his arm around Harry's shoulders, at the same time as Seamus is getting it on with his latest girlfriend on the living room sofa without anyone saying anything about it. It ultimately leads to a fight between Ron and Seamus who, as it turns out, is the only one who really has anything against Harry and Ron showing affection.
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* Curtis, the protagonist of ''{{Phantasmagoria 2}}'', has three love interests -- two women and one guy. The women both get multiple sex scenes. The guy? Well, they ''almost'' kiss. Apparently, showing men actually kissing is [[strike:sick and wrong]] much edgier than showing fairly explicit straight BDSM.
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* {{Degrassi}} waffles on this. Early seasons downplayed the interactions between same sex characters. However after the Paige and Alex relationship they seem to be okay with this, as Riley and Zane do publicly display affection on a fairly regular basis.