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25th Jun '16 4:43:39 PM nombretomado
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* Rieltar Anchev in ''BaldursGate''. He seems to be the mastermind behind the Iron Throne's evil plans, but turns out to be just a puppet for his adopted son Sarevok, whose own plans have an even darker end.

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* Rieltar Anchev in ''BaldursGate''.''VideoGame/BaldursGate''. He seems to be the mastermind behind the Iron Throne's evil plans, but turns out to be just a puppet for his adopted son Sarevok, whose own plans have an even darker end.
24th Jun '16 11:20:07 AM AmbarSonofDeshar
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' gives us Cersei Lannister, who has a couple of neat ideas, but once she gets on the throne... she manages to surprise MagnificentBastard Petyr Baelish with how quickly she runs the kingdom into the ground. He points out that in the [[TitleDrop Game of Thrones]] she imagines herself a player, but is in reality a piece, because even as the most politically powerful person in Westeros she is so damn predictable.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' gives us Cersei ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':
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Lannister, who has a couple of neat ideas, but once she gets on the throne... she manages to surprise MagnificentBastard Petyr Baelish with how quickly she runs the kingdom into the ground. He points out that in the [[TitleDrop Game of Thrones]] she imagines herself a player, but is in reality a piece, because even as the most politically powerful person in Westeros she is so damn predictable.predictable.
** Cersei's son, Joffrey, would love to be the main villain of the story, but is handicapped by his own stupidity, and the presence of Tyrion and [[DragonInChief Tywin]], who both work to constrain his worst impulses. Anybody who Joffrey does get his hands on is in for a very bad time of it though.
22nd Jun '16 8:00:09 PM randomtroper89
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* [[GeneralRipper The Duke of Weselton]] in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' fancies himself as the mastermind, planning to exploit Arendelle for its riches but is unable to hide his intentions. When Elsa runs away and causes the eternal winter, he tries to restore the kingdom [[PragmaticVillainy for his own benefit]]. He sends [[ThoseTwoBadGuys his two bodyguards]] on Prince Han's rescue mission to kill Elsa, but Prince Hans saves her [[spoiler:only to frame her for freezing Anna's heart (which she did do accidentally), and then leaves Anna to die so he can claim the throne for himself]] which turns the Duke into a complete non-entity.

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* [[GeneralRipper The Duke of Weselton]] in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' fancies himself as the mastermind, planning to exploit Arendelle for its riches but is unable to hide his intentions. When Elsa runs away and causes the eternal winter, he tries to restore the kingdom [[PragmaticVillainy for his own benefit]]. He sends [[ThoseTwoBadGuys his two bodyguards]] on Prince Han's rescue mission to kill Elsa, but Prince Hans saves her [[spoiler:only her. Hans then proceds to frame her for [[spoiler:frame Elsa's accidental freezing Anna's heart (which she did do accidentally), and then as intentional murder, leaves Anna to die and sentences Elsa to death, so he can claim the throne for himself]] which himself]]. This turns the Duke into a complete non-entity.



** Justin Hammer in ''Film/IronMan2'' believes he's going to take down Tony Stark, especially since he just "hired" Ivan Vanko, a brilliant tech wiz that can create gear rivaling Iron Man's. The thing is, Hammer has absolutely ''no'' control over Vanko as the latter hacks into his system, derails his PoweredArmor prototypes into unmanned drones, and so on. Vanko even plays up YouNoTakeCandle for no other reason than to annoy Hammer, and get him out of his way. Hammer's is most clearly shown as pathetic when he tries to force Vanko into line... [[PokeThePoodle by taking his pet bird. And his shoes.]]
*** It also extends to his presentations: he comes out dancing, or at least a poor imitation of it, to Average White Band's 'Pick Up The Pieces' and goes on with bad jokes that make no sense ("The newspapers are about to run out of ink!") to outright showing what is clearly Stark technology (the second Iron Man suit, the one with the icing problem), only with a lot of guns welded on, all to scattered applause. All Tony does is show up in his new suit, during Hammer's presentation, and he gets a standing ovation.

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** Justin Hammer in ''Film/IronMan2'' believes he's going to take down Tony Stark, especially since he just "hired" Ivan Vanko, a brilliant tech wiz that can create gear rivaling Iron Man's. When he presents his idea he comes out dancing, or at least a poor imitation of it, to Average White Band's 'Pick Up The thing is, Pieces' and goes on with bad jokes that make no sense ("The newspapers are about to run out of ink!") to outright showing what is clearly Stark technology (the second Iron Man suit, the one with the icing problem), only with a lot of guns welded on, all to scattered applause. All Tony does is show up in his new suit, during Hammer's presentation, and he gets a standing ovation. Hammer has absolutely ''no'' control over Vanko as the latter hacks into his system, derails his PoweredArmor prototypes into unmanned drones, and so on. Vanko even plays up YouNoTakeCandle for no other reason than to annoy Hammer, and get him out of his way. Hammer's is most clearly shown as pathetic when he tries to force Vanko into line... [[PokeThePoodle by taking his pet bird. And his shoes.]]
*** It also extends to his presentations: he comes out dancing, or at least a poor imitation of it, to Average White Band's 'Pick Up The Pieces' and goes on with bad jokes that make no sense ("The newspapers are about to run out of ink!") to outright showing what is clearly Stark technology (the second Iron Man suit, the one with the icing problem), only with a lot of guns welded on, all to scattered applause. All Tony does is show up in his new suit, during Hammer's presentation, and he gets a standing ovation.
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*** Similarly, Ronan in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' seems to think he's the biggest threat around when in reality he's basically just a glorified courier bringing a stone to Thanos. Thanos actually calls him out on this at one point, giving a blistering ReasonYouSuckSpeech in the process.

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*** ** Similarly, Ronan in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' seems to think he's the biggest threat around when in reality he's basically just a glorified courier bringing a stone to Thanos. Thanos actually calls him out on this at one point, giving a blistering ReasonYouSuckSpeech in the process.
10th Jun '16 6:09:20 PM Vir
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* Ludo from ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil''. He's completely incompetent as a villain, never showing to possess any magical abilities of his own and [[NeverMyFault frequently blaming his failures on his minions]]. In the case of the latter, he at one point punishes them for something that was clearly his fault, which is what leads to [[TheStarscream Toffee]] convincing most of his minions to turn on him.

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* Ludo from ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil''. He's completely incompetent as a villain, never showing to possess any magical abilities of his own and [[NeverMyFault frequently blaming his failures on his minions]]. In the case of the latter, he at one point punishes them for something that was clearly his fault, which is what leads to [[TheStarscream Toffee]] convincing most of his minions to turn on him. However, he appears to have TookALevelInBadass in season 2.
9th Jun '16 5:29:29 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Webcomic/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi'', we have several examples of this: First, Mojo Jojo -- the Girls' canonical ArchEnemy -- nearly succeeds in killing them with a monster, only for them to be saved by [[SamuraiJack Jack]], at which point Mojo is captured by [[TheDragon Bell]] and forcibly "recruited" to work for the Darkstar Council. Then, when they arrive at the Council's base, they're greeted by [[WesternAnimation/InvaderZim Zim]], who for a moment seems to be pretty high up in the organization, since he's sitting on a throne and giving a MotiveRant about their goals... then Dr. X, the real BigBad shows up, and tells Zim to get out of his chair and get back to his janitor duties. Later on, [[WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory Mandark]] shows up and appears to be a major villain, but it's quickly made apparent that he's nothing but a [[UnwittingPawn pawn]] that [[ManBehindTheMan Dr. X]] is [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating]] through his mental instability.

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* In ''Webcomic/PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi'', we have several examples of this: First, Mojo Jojo -- the Girls' canonical ArchEnemy -- nearly succeeds in killing them with a monster, only for them to be saved by [[SamuraiJack [[WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack Jack]], at which point Mojo is captured by [[TheDragon Bell]] and forcibly "recruited" to work for the Darkstar Council. Then, when they arrive at the Council's base, they're greeted by [[WesternAnimation/InvaderZim Zim]], who for a moment seems to be pretty high up in the organization, since he's sitting on a throne and giving a MotiveRant about their goals... then Dr. X, the real BigBad shows up, and tells Zim to get out of his chair and get back to his janitor duties. Later on, [[WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory Mandark]] shows up and appears to be a major villain, but it's quickly made apparent that he's nothing but a [[UnwittingPawn pawn]] that [[ManBehindTheMan Dr. X]] is [[ManipulativeBastard manipulating]] through his mental instability.
30th May '16 8:15:15 PM Berrenta
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** Yuna Roma Seiran from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' is a SmugSnake {{Jerkass}} who plots to seize control of his nation from its rightful ruler, Cagalli, and is generally a pain in the behind to the main characters. While he's initially a legitimate problem, he is quickly overshadowed by the competition for the BigBad slot, unable to measure up to [[ManipulativeBastard suave]], {{Chessmaster}} [[DarkMessiah Gilbert Durandal]] or the [[StupidEvil dumb]] and [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill violent]], but [[FinalSolution utterly]] [[TheSociopath monstrous]] [[FantasticRacism Djibril]]. He's even outmatched by Djibril's [[TheDragon Dragon]], the CriminalAmnesiac [[ManipulativeBastard Neo]] [[BlondGuysAreEvil Roanoke]]. Which actually makes him sound even more pathetic because Neo Roanoke [[spoiler:is actually Mu La Flaga, a ''good'' guy who rejoins the Three Ship Alliance in the latter half of Destiny while he slowly regains his memories.]]

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** Yuna Roma Seiran from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' is a SmugSnake {{Jerkass}} who plots to seize control of his nation from its rightful ruler, Cagalli, and is generally a pain in the behind to the main characters. While he's initially a legitimate problem, he is quickly overshadowed by the competition for the BigBad slot, unable to measure up to [[ManipulativeBastard suave]], {{Chessmaster}} [[DarkMessiah Gilbert Durandal]] or the [[StupidEvil dumb]] and [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill violent]], but [[FinalSolution utterly]] [[TheSociopath monstrous]] [[FantasticRacism Djibril]]. He's even outmatched by Djibril's [[TheDragon Dragon]], the CriminalAmnesiac [[ManipulativeBastard Neo]] [[BlondGuysAreEvil Neo Roanoke]]. Which actually makes him sound even more pathetic because Neo Roanoke [[spoiler:is actually Mu La Flaga, a ''good'' guy who rejoins the Three Ship Alliance in the latter half of Destiny while he slowly regains his memories.]]
23rd May '16 8:05:09 PM Anddrix
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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'': The Riddler is not exactly harmless by any means, but compared to the other villains he can't measure up. He keeps boasting to everyone how he's Batman's intellectual equal and match when at best he's been an annoyance who is too self-deluding to solve a mystery as basic as finding out Batman's SecretIdentity (something Bane, Hugo Strange and [[spoiler:Scarecrow]] for instance found out with BoringButPractical means). He is also unable to come anywhere ''near'' the threat level of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker or [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight Scarecrow]] whose plans are[[MagnificentBastard massive in scope and grand in vision]] in comparison to [[SmugSnake the Riddler's]] [[EvilIsPetty extremely narrow and petty goals]].

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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'': The Riddler is not exactly harmless by any means, but compared to the other villains he can't measure up. He keeps boasting to everyone how he's Batman's intellectual equal and match when at best he's been an annoyance who is too self-deluding to solve a mystery as basic as finding out Batman's SecretIdentity (something Bane, Hugo Strange and [[spoiler:Scarecrow]] for instance found out with BoringButPractical means). He is also unable to come anywhere ''near'' the threat level of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker or [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight Scarecrow]] whose plans are[[MagnificentBastard massive in scope and grand in vision]] in comparison to [[SmugSnake the Riddler's]] [[EvilIsPetty extremely narrow and petty goals]].



* The Jokerz from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' are a street gang who emulate [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker the Clown Prince of Crime]], but they are a far cry from the original villain, as Bruce Wayne is quick to point out.

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* The Jokerz from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' are a street gang who emulate [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker the Clown Prince of Crime]], but they are a far cry from the original villain, as Bruce Wayne is quick to point out.
19th May '16 11:01:32 PM Acebrock
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* If he is not [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade promoted as a hero]], Akechi Mitsuhide is usually seen as this. He did plan his betrayal of OdaNobunaga, but it depends mostly on luck about how Nobunaga suddenly came into Honnoji with minimal troops. Right after he defeated and forced Nobunaga to commit suicide, 13 days later, Nobunaga's successor Toyotomi Hideyoshi arrives and defeated Mitsuhide, forcing him to flee and [[KarmicDeath get himself killed by peasants]]. Hideyoshi might not be a complete evil per se, but he is also often the recipient of HistoricalVillainUpgrade like Nobunaga.
** Not applicable in the rare instances where Oda Nobunaga is portrayed as good, while Akechi Mitsuhide is portrayed as evil. In those cases he typically ends up being the BigBad already. This is pretty rare since Oda Nobunaga is almost never portrayed as the hero.
** These both seem to stem from two ill-viewed events, Hideyoshi's blunder of an invasion into Korea, and Nobunaga's hatred of Buddhism and burning of a temple of warrior monks. ([[KarmaHoudini It doesn't matter]], that they tried to assassinate him first... only that they were monks and he burned the temple down to the last man.)
7th May '16 3:06:26 PM Vir
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* The Jokerz from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' are a street gang who emulate [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker the Clown Prince of Crime]], by they are a far cry from the original villain, as Bruce Wayne is quick to point out.

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* The Jokerz from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' are a street gang who emulate [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker the Clown Prince of Crime]], by but they are a far cry from the original villain, as Bruce Wayne is quick to point out.



* Plankton from ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' is described by Karen as "1% evil, 99% hot gas". He thinks he's an EvilGenius but he fails to grasp even the simplest concepts, to the point that he once forgot how to blink.

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* Plankton from ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' is described by Karen as "1% evil, 99% hot gas". He thinks he's an EvilGenius but he fails to grasp even the simplest concepts, to the point that he once forgot how to blink.blink.
* Ludo from ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil''. He's completely incompetent as a villain, never showing to possess any magical abilities of his own and [[NeverMyFault frequently blaming his failures on his minions]]. In the case of the latter, he at one point punishes them for something that was clearly his fault, which is what leads to [[TheStarscream Toffee]] convincing most of his minions to turn on him.



* The Piraka of ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' are introduced {{brainwash|ed}}ing a whole village of Matoran to do work at a ''volcano'' in an attempt to get an ArtifactOfDoom, committing several KickTheDog moments purely ForTheEvulz, and [[TheWorfEffect taking out the veteran Toa heroes]] who showed up. In addition, leader Zaktan knew BigBad Makuta's EvilPlan and swore to use it to his own advantage. Turns out they were [[ManBehindTheMan manipulated by Makuta]] from day one, and eventually got beaten by a rookie team of Toa [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because Destiny Said So]]. They were shortly afterward mutated into sea snakes and captured by the HeroSecretService. They're imprisoned in a fishtank. Zaktan tried to offer his knowledge of the gambit in exchange for parole, leading some other heroes to Makuta -- but when they get there, Makuta blows him up, and he goes missing for a while.

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* The Piraka of ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' are introduced {{brainwash|ed}}ing a whole village of Matoran to do work at a ''volcano'' in an attempt to get an ArtifactOfDoom, committing several KickTheDog moments purely ForTheEvulz, and [[TheWorfEffect taking out the veteran Toa heroes]] who showed up. In addition, leader Zaktan knew BigBad Makuta's EvilPlan and swore to use it to his own advantage. Turns out they were [[ManBehindTheMan [[TheManBehindTheMan manipulated by Makuta]] from day one, and eventually got beaten by a rookie team of Toa [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because Destiny Said So]]. They were shortly afterward mutated into sea snakes and captured by the HeroSecretService. They're imprisoned in a fishtank. Zaktan tried to offer his knowledge of the gambit in exchange for parole, leading some other heroes to Makuta -- but when they get there, Makuta blows him up, and he goes missing for a while.
7th May '16 2:53:43 PM Vir
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* Voltar from ''WesternAnimation/LeagueOfSuperEvil'' is an {{Exaggerated}} example. He fancies himself as the world's greatest supervillain, but he never actually does ''anything'' really evil, and most of his deeds are only PokeThePoodle moments.

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* Voltar from ''WesternAnimation/LeagueOfSuperEvil'' is an {{Exaggerated}} {{exaggerated|Trope}} example. He fancies himself as the world's greatest supervillain, but he never actually does ''anything'' really evil, and most of his deeds are only PokeThePoodle moments.
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