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18th Jun '18 11:49:16 PM LinTaylor
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** ''Series/KamenRiderBuild'' one-ups Gaim with ''four'' wannabes: Night Rogue, the faction leaders of Hokuto and Seito, and weapons mogul Jusaburo Nanba all seek the destructive power of the Pandora Box for their own ends, unaware that all of them are just pawns in the true villain's scheme to open the Box and obliterate all life on Earth.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderBuild'' one-ups Gaim with ''four'' wannabes: wannabes, thanks to the show's actual BigBad Evolt (AKA Blood Stalk) being that good at manipulating people. Night Rogue, Rogue and the faction leaders of Hokuto and Seito, and Seito are bad enough, but weapons mogul Jusaburo Nanba all seek takes the destructive power of the Pandora Box for their own ends, unaware cake: unlike them, he's fully aware that all of them are just pawns in Evolt is a supremely powerful alien being who destroys planets [[ForTheEvulz for fun]], including single-handedly [[OnceGreenMars turning Mars into the true villain's scheme lifeless rock it is today]]...and yet Nanba still believes Evolt is loyal and subordinate to open him. It shouldn't take a genius to figure out [[KilledOffForReal what happens]] after Evolt achieves his final form and doesn't need to maintain the Box and obliterate all life on Earth.boot-licker act anymore...
7th Jun '18 11:49:24 AM hittheassassin
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'' has The Traitor AKA [[spoiler:Goro Akechi, the SixthRangerTraitor who serves as TheHeavy throughout the game. He is savvy to use his power to access the Metaverse to set up a clever scheme to not only further his own career as ace detective, but also to get revenge on [[ParentalAbandonment his father]] [[BigBad Masayoshi Shido]]. Unfortunately, he gets defeated midway through the gameís climax by the Phantom Thieves. Whatís worse is that he doesnít realise that Shido already knew of Akechiís imminent betrayal and plans on getting rid of him once Akechi has served his purpose. To add further insult, Akechi was merely another UnwittingPawn alongside the Protagonist of th true Big Bad.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'' has The Traitor AKA [[spoiler:Goro Akechi, the SixthRangerTraitor who serves as TheHeavy throughout the game. He is savvy to use his power to access the Metaverse to set up a clever scheme to not only further his own career as ace detective, but also to get revenge on [[ParentalAbandonment his father]] [[BigBad Masayoshi Shido]]. Unfortunately, he gets defeated midway through the gameís climax by the Phantom Thieves.Thieves, and apparently dies in obscurity where no one would remember him. Whatís worse is that he doesnít realise that Shido already knew of Akechiís imminent betrayal and plans on getting rid of him once Akechi has served his purpose. To add further insult, insult to injury, Akechi was merely another UnwittingPawn alongside the Protagonist of th the true Big Bad.]]
7th Jun '18 11:46:43 AM hittheassassin
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** Subverted by [[spoiler:Taro Namatame in the worst ending. He is revealed to be the one behind the kidnapping and his last acts ends up killing Nanako, though not a party member, but still a very well beloved character. The player can opt to throw him into the Midnight Channel where he will be killed by his own Shadow (which clearly DOES pose a worse threat than him alone...). The better endings, however, averts this as Namatame turns out to be a TragicHero manipulated by Adachi]].
** Played straight with [[spoiler: Mitsuo Kubo, a mentally unstable student who propagates himself as the culprit behind the string of murders in order to gain attention, and who the party believe to be responsible for a short time. In fact, Mitsuo only kills one person, Mr. Morooka, and it is revealed that he was thrown into the TV world by [[BigBad Adachi]] to further his own goals; Mitsuo spends the rest of the game presumably in prison.]]

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** Subverted by [[spoiler:Taro Namatame in the worst ending. He is revealed to be the one behind the kidnapping and his last acts ends up killing Nanako, though not a party member, but still a very well beloved character. The player can opt to throw him into the Midnight Channel where he will be killed by his own Shadow (which clearly DOES pose a worse threat than him alone...). The better endings, however, averts this as Namatame turns out to be a TragicHero manipulated by Adachi]].
the true Killer]].
** Played straight with [[spoiler: Mitsuo Kubo, a mentally unstable student who propagates himself as the culprit behind the string of murders in order to gain attention, and who the party believe to be responsible for a short time. In fact, Mitsuo only kills one person, Mr. Morooka, and it is revealed that he was thrown into the TV world by [[BigBad Adachi]] The Killer]] to further his own goals; Mitsuo spends the rest of the game presumably in prison.]]
* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'' has The Traitor AKA [[spoiler:Goro Akechi, the SixthRangerTraitor who serves as TheHeavy throughout the game. He is savvy to use his power to access the Metaverse to set up a clever scheme to not only further his own career as ace detective, but also to get revenge on [[ParentalAbandonment his father]] [[BigBad Masayoshi Shido]]. Unfortunately, he gets defeated midway through the gameís climax by the Phantom Thieves. Whatís worse is that he doesnít realise that Shido already knew of Akechiís imminent betrayal and plans on getting rid of him once Akechi has served his purpose. To add further insult, Akechi was merely another UnwittingPawn alongside the Protagonist of th true Big Bad.
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4th Jun '18 3:09:48 PM ClownPrince47
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* Adam Taurus in ''Fanfic/ValesUnderground''. He is a part of the BigBadEnsemble as one of the major mob bosses in Vale, but he's very upset that [[BigBad Cinder]] has been put at the top. She has the most influence in the city, but he thinks that she doesn't deserve it. Cinder quickly [[CurbStompBattle puts him in his place]] when he tries to pick a fight with her. Ultimately, may be ''a'' BigBad, but he wants to be ''the'' BigBad. What prevents him from doing that is his rather impatient attitude and [[HairTriggerTemper volatile temper]] that causes him to murder his own workers on occasion. Things that, as Cinder points out, are some major drawbacks.
3rd Jun '18 3:21:01 AM CashSloth
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' has two DLC enemies that can't quite keep up with the Dovahkiin.
** Lord Harkon of ''Dawnguard''. He is an ancient, cunning vampire with a powerful and awesome OneWingedAngel form and [[spoiler:a plot to plunge the world into endless night so his kind can feed at their leisure]]. Ordinarily, he'd be a legitimate BigBad. It's just that he's up against the Dovahkiin, a warrior whose devours the souls of dragons for power and is fated to defeat [[OmnicidalManiac Alduin, the World Eater]].
** In ''Hearthfire'', Rochelle the Red is an ordinary, mortal bandit of no particularly impressive origin who thinks kidnapping the Dovahkiin's spouse is a good idea. [[TooDumbToLive It is not]].

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' has two DLC enemies that can't quite keep up with ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': In the Dovahkiin.
** Lord Harkon of ''Dawnguard''. He is an ancient, cunning vampire with a powerful and awesome OneWingedAngel form and [[spoiler:a plot to plunge the world into endless night so his kind can feed at their leisure]]. Ordinarily, he'd be a legitimate BigBad. It's just that he's up against the Dovahkiin, a warrior whose devours the souls of dragons for power and is fated to defeat [[OmnicidalManiac Alduin, the World Eater]].
** In ''Hearthfire'',
''Hearthfire'' DLC, Rochelle the Red is an ordinary, mortal bandit of no particularly impressive origin who thinks kidnapping the Dovahkiin's spouse is a good idea. [[TooDumbToLive It is not]].
24th May '18 5:24:14 AM Trooper924
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*** And even before that point, Tankor was shown to be not quite TheChessmaster he considered himself to be, with the Vehicon often being sent scrambling when the people he was trying to manipulate [[SpannerInTheWorks didn't behave like he expected them to.]]
21st May '18 9:41:13 AM Odacon_Spy
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** Jimmy Pegorino from ''Videogame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' likes to think of himself as a crafty and respected kingpin (even attempting a [[TheChessmaster chess]] metaphor at one point). His dream is to muscle his way onto [[TheMafia The Commission]] in Liberty City and put his family on the map, but it's made pretty clear from a ''real'' kingpin that won't ever happen. In reality, Jimmy is boss of a small, amateurish, disloyal crew that only has one competent member. He's no match for [[spoiler: [[BigBad Dmitri]] or Jon [[TheDon Gravelli]]]] in terms of ruthlessness and influence, and his trust in the former [[spoiler: ultimately gets him a bullet in the brain, one way or another]]. Niko lampshades this [[spoiler: just before killing him, telling him that he heard the ruling ''mafiosi'' of LC mockingly referred to him as a "fat fucking joke"]].
** Similarly, TheMafia has been [[VillainDecay reduced to this level]] in the latest sequels, particularly in ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV GTA IV]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV GTA V]]''. They are no match for TheCartel, let alone [[NebulousCriminalConspiracy Merryweather and the corrupt forces]].

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** Jimmy Pegorino from ''Videogame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' likes to think of himself as a crafty and respected kingpin (even attempting a [[TheChessmaster chess]] metaphor at one point). His dream is to muscle his way onto [[TheMafia The Commission]] in Liberty City and put his family on the map, but it's made pretty clear from a ''real'' kingpin that won't ever happen. In reality, Jimmy is boss of a small, amateurish, disloyal crew that [[OnlySaneMan only has one competent member. member]], who's constantly sidelined and disrespected for being half-Irish. He's no match for [[spoiler: [[BigBad Dmitri]] Dmitri Rascalov]] or Jon [[TheDon Jon Gravelli]]]] in terms of ruthlessness and influence, and his trust in the former [[spoiler: ultimately gets him a bullet in the brain, one way or another]]. Niko lampshades this [[spoiler: just before killing him, him]], telling him that he heard the ruling ''mafiosi'' of LC mockingly referred to him as a "fat fucking joke"]].joke".
** Similarly, TheMafia has been [[VillainDecay reduced to this level]] in the latest sequels, particularly in ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV GTA IV]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV GTA V]]''. They are no match for the expanding influence of TheMafiya or TheCartel, let alone [[NebulousCriminalConspiracy Merryweather and the corrupt forces]].
19th May '18 10:18:51 PM Prometheus117
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* The Piraka of ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' are introduced {{brainwash|ed}}ing a whole village of Matoran to do work at a ''volcano'' in an attempt to get an ArtifactOfDoom, committing several KickTheDog moments purely ForTheEvulz, and [[TheWorfEffect taking out the veteran Toa heroes]] who showed up. In addition, leader Zaktan knew BigBad Makuta's EvilPlan and swore to use it to his own advantage. Turns out they were [[TheManBehindTheMan manipulated by Makuta]] from day one, and eventually got beaten by a rookie team of Toa [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because Destiny Said So]]. They were shortly afterward mutated into sea snakes and captured by the HeroSecretService. They're imprisoned in a fishtank. Zaktan tried to offer his knowledge of the gambit in exchange for parole, leading some other heroes to Makuta -- but when they get there, Makuta blows him up, and he goes missing for a while.

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* The Piraka of ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' are introduced {{brainwash|ed}}ing a whole village of Matoran to do work at a ''volcano'' in an attempt to get an ArtifactOfDoom, committing several KickTheDog moments purely ForTheEvulz, and [[TheWorfEffect taking out the veteran Toa heroes]] who showed up. In addition, leader Zaktan knew BigBad Makuta's EvilPlan and swore to use it to his own advantage. advantage, and there's TheReveal they were all Dark Hunters who fought and killed for a living, including against various other Toa in their careers. Turns out they were [[TheManBehindTheMan manipulated by Makuta]] from day one, and eventually got beaten by a rookie team of Toa [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because Destiny Said So]].(albeit a team formed out of Matoran [[BadassNormal far tougher they were used to]] and they [[UnderestimatingBadassery gravely underestimated]]). They were shortly afterward mutated into sea snakes and captured by the HeroSecretService. They're imprisoned in a fishtank. Zaktan tried to offer his knowledge of the gambit in exchange for parole, leading some other heroes to Makuta -- but when they get there, Makuta blows him up, and he goes missing for a while.
16th May '18 4:30:20 PM MarcusSLazarus
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** In spin-off media, the Meddling Monk- the Doctor's first Time Lord enemy- tends to come across as this; he likes to consider himself the 'hero', rebelling against Time Lord society to make history better according to his own views while dismissing the Doctor as a fool at best and a hypocrite at worst, but his efforts to supplant the Doctor always fail. The Monk's most elaborate scheme- ''Blood Heat'' to ''No Future''- simply creates an alternate timeline where the Doctor died before he is manipulated by the Doctor's companion Ace, and when his return in the Eighth Doctor audios sees him [[spoiler:make a deal with the ''Daleks'', he is genuinely shocked when the Daleks betray him, spending time weeping about the death of his companion.]] The Monk goes on to try and [[spoiler:take the Doctor's place in history, but even when he succeeds after tricking the Fifth Doctor into changing history in "The Secret History", the Monk's former ally looks into the future and realises that history is worse with the Monk's active interference than it would be with the Doctor's more benevolent, hidden assistance.]]

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** In spin-off media, the Meddling Monk- the Doctor's first Time Lord enemy- tends to come across as this; he likes to consider himself the 'hero', rebelling against Time Lord society to make history better according to his own views while dismissing the Doctor as a fool at best and a hypocrite at worst, but his efforts to supplant the Doctor always fail. The Monk's most elaborate scheme- ''Blood Heat'' to ''No Future''- simply creates an alternate timeline where the Doctor died before died, rather than killing the Doctor in his own past, and while the Monk claims that his later plans were always intended to just distract the Doctor from his main scheme, he is manipulated finally tricked and defeated by the Doctor's companion Ace, and when his Ace. When the Monk's return in the Eighth Doctor audios sees him [[spoiler:make a deal with the ''Daleks'', he is genuinely shocked when the Daleks betray him, spending time weeping about the death of his companion.]] The Monk goes on to try and [[spoiler:take the Doctor's place in history, history after convincing himself that the Doctor was the reason everything went wrong, but even when he succeeds after tricking the Fifth Doctor into changing history in "The Secret History", the Monk's former ally looks into the future and realises that history is worse with the Monk's active interference than it would be with the Doctor's more benevolent, hidden assistance.]]
9th May '18 4:33:03 PM immblueversion
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** Master Jose of Phantom Lord manages to terrorize the entire guild, and even put Makarov out of action for a while due to one of his QuirkyMiniBossSquad member's sneak attack. [[spoiler: The second Makarov recovers, however, he obliterates Jose without even trying.]]

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** Master Jose of Phantom Lord manages to terrorize the entire guild, and even put Makarov out of action for a while due to one of his QuirkyMiniBossSquad member's members' sneak attack. [[spoiler: The second Makarov recovers, however, he obliterates Jose without even trying.]]
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