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31st Jul '16 12:23:50 PM TheGrandestDad
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*Chris Thorndyke of Anime/SonicX was intended to be this sort of character, but tended to just come off as the CreatorsPet and SpotlightStealingSquad.
29th Jul '16 11:21:58 PM merotoker
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'''KristenStewart (Bella Swan):''' Me? Oh, no. I'm just a hollow placeholder for all of the teenage girls in the audience to project their personalities onto. I have none of my own whatsoever.

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'''KristenStewart '''Creator/KristenStewart (Bella Swan):''' Me? Oh, no. I'm just a hollow placeholder for all of the teenage girls in the audience to project their personalities onto. I have none of my own whatsoever.



* Probably the most well known audience surrogate in comics is also one of the most popular characters, which is largely cited to be ''because'' of how much of an AudienceSurrogate he is: [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Peter Parker, The Amazing Spider-Man]]. His status as this is part of the reason he was created and why he sold so well.
* [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] is in many ways a modern version of Peter Parker. She's obsessed with Comicbook/TheAvengers and superheroes in general, and partakes in a number of common nerd activities like reading {{Shoujo}} manga and writing fanfiction.

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* Probably the most well known audience surrogate in comics is also one of the most popular characters, which is largely cited to be ''because'' of how much of an AudienceSurrogate he is: [[ComicBook/SpiderMan qualifies: [[Franchise/SpiderMan Peter Parker, The Amazing Spider-Man]]. His status as this is part of the reason he was created and why he sold so well.
* [[Comicbook/MsMarvel2014 Kamala Khan]] is in many ways a modern version of Peter Parker. She's obsessed with Comicbook/TheAvengers and superheroes in general, and partakes in a number of common nerd activities like reading {{Shoujo}} {{Shoujo|Demographic}} manga and writing fanfiction.



* In the ''Fanfic/NineteenEightyThreeDoomsdayStories'', this role is largely taken up by CanonImmigrant {{Muggle}}s from ''Literature/NineteenEightyThreeDoomsday'' in contrast to [[NationsAsPeople the]] [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Nations]].

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* In the ''Fanfic/NineteenEightyThreeDoomsdayStories'', this role is largely taken up by CanonImmigrant {{Muggle}}s {{Muggles}} from ''Literature/NineteenEightyThreeDoomsday'' in contrast to [[NationsAsPeople the]] [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Nations]].



* Kenji from the movie ''Anime/SummerWars'' has no real personality outside of being an OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent AudienceSurrogate.

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* Kenji from the movie ''Anime/SummerWars'' has no real personality outside of being an OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent AudienceSurrogate.audience surrogate.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater'':

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater'':''WesternAnimation/TheSpongebobMovieSpongeOutOfWater'':



* Creator/KatDennings stated in [[http://www.presstelegram.com/arts-and-entertainment/20130911/while-marvel-gets-super-cosmic-in-thor-sequel-kat-dennings-brings-it-back-to-earth this]] interview that the character of Darcy in ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' is basically AudienceSurrogate.

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* Creator/KatDennings stated in [[http://www.presstelegram.com/arts-and-entertainment/20130911/while-marvel-gets-super-cosmic-in-thor-sequel-kat-dennings-brings-it-back-to-earth this]] interview that the character of Darcy in ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' is basically AudienceSurrogate.qualifies.



* In the film version of ''Theatre/{{Hair}}'', Claude was turned into a relatable, conservative audience surrogate, as opposed to his radical, obnoxious stage-version conterpart.

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* In the film version of ''Theatre/{{Hair}}'', Claude was turned into a relatable, conservative audience surrogate, as opposed to his radical, obnoxious stage-version conterpart.counterpart.



* In his introduction to ''Literature/TheBookOfLostTales'', Christopher Tolkien supposes that the reason ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' was less popular than ''The Lord of the Rings'' is that it lacked an AudienceSurrogate. In fact, the original draft of ''The Silmarillion'' (the ''Lost Tales'') actually did have an AudienceSurrogate -- a Man named [=Æ=]lfwine of England to whom the tales of the First Age were narrated by the Elves.

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* In his introduction to ''Literature/TheBookOfLostTales'', Christopher Tolkien supposes that the reason ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' was less popular than ''The Lord of the Rings'' is that it lacked an AudienceSurrogate. one. In fact, the original draft of ''The Silmarillion'' (the ''Lost Tales'') actually did have an AudienceSurrogate one -- a Man named [=Æ=]lfwine of England to whom the tales of the First Age were narrated by the Elves.



* In ''Literature/MidnightsChildren'', Padma might be a type 2. Like the audience, she is hearing TheNarrator's life story for the first time. Some of her wry and impassioned commentary is [[MetaGuy bound to resonate with at least some readers]] (especially her urging Saleem to [[{{Doorstopper}} hurry up]]).

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* In ''Literature/MidnightsChildren'', Padma might be a type 2. Like the audience, she is hearing TheNarrator's the {{Narrator}}'s life story for the first time. Some of her wry and impassioned commentary is [[MetaGuy bound to resonate with at least some readers]] (especially her urging Saleem to [[{{Doorstopper}} hurry up]]).



** For everyone else, it's Leonard, a generic geek without his friends' more overt flaws (Howard's lechery, Raj's gynophobia, and Sheldon's [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkassery]] ).

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** For everyone else, it's Leonard, a generic geek without his friends' more overt flaws (Howard's lechery, Raj's gynophobia, and Sheldon's [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkassery]] ).{{Jerkass}}ery).



* Disney Channel does this quite a bit:

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* Disney Channel Creator/DisneyChannel does this quite a bit:



** Likewise, ''Series/LivAndMaddie'' introduces Josh Wilcox in Season 3, as he is a NaiveNewcomer. As the setting and dynamics have been more or less established by that point, he, like viewers attempts to understand the antics and plots that go on in the show. Whenever he appears, he is closest to the main plot and experiences it first hand. His second appearance is a DayInTheLimelight for him, as if it were an attempt to introduce the audience to the show itself.

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** Likewise, ''Series/LivAndMaddie'' introduces Josh Wilcox in Season 3, as he is a NaiveNewcomer. As the setting and dynamics have been more or less established by that point, he, like viewers attempts to understand the antics and plots that go on in the show. Whenever he appears, he is closest to the main plot and experiences it first hand. His second appearance is a DayInTheLimelight ADayInTheLimelight for him, as if it were an attempt to introduce the audience to the show itself.



* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': In one episode towards the end of Season 7, it is {{Anvilicious}}ly clear that the showrunners ''really'' want us to see guest star Charlie as a Type 3, as they have her spend a huge chunk of time making sci-fi references, wondering what [[Literature/HarryPotter Hermione]] would do in a given situation, and talking about Comic Con (the fact that they cast Creator/FeliciaDay in the role helps hammer in the point). It feels as if the entire opening sequence with Charlie is basically the writers saying "''See'', SPN fans? She's just like ''you!'' Root for her, dammit!" However, some in the audience felt like the show was trying way too hard to get the audience to like her. And the fact that she was an {{Anvilicious}} and strident [[WriterOnBoard mouthpiece for the writers' political viewpoints]] (and the fact that she takes illegal actions on behalf of the writers' viewpoints) meant that it was virtually guaranteed that there would be a chunk of the audience that would see her as [[{{TheScrappy}} annoying]] rather than as the sympathetic, plucky heroine the writers wanted the audience to see her as.

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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': In one episode towards the end of Season 7, it is {{Anvilicious}}ly clear that the showrunners ''really'' want us to see guest star Charlie as a Type 3, as they have her spend a huge chunk of time making sci-fi references, wondering what [[Literature/HarryPotter Hermione]] would do in a given situation, and talking about Comic Con (the fact that they cast Creator/FeliciaDay in the role helps hammer in the point). It feels as if the entire opening sequence with Charlie is basically the writers saying "''See'', SPN fans? She's just like ''you!'' Root for her, dammit!" However, some in the audience felt like the show was trying way too hard to get the audience to like her. And the fact that she was an {{Anvilicious}} and strident [[WriterOnBoard mouthpiece for the writers' political viewpoints]] (and the fact that she takes illegal actions on behalf of the writers' viewpoints) meant that it was virtually guaranteed that there would be a chunk of the audience that would see her as [[{{TheScrappy}} [[TheScrappy annoying]] rather than as the sympathetic, plucky heroine the writers wanted the audience to see her as.



* Donna in ''TheWestWing'' acts as this, often asking the commonsense questions the other characters don't think of. (Also see [[WomenAreWiser Women Are Wiser]].)

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* Donna in ''TheWestWing'' acts as this, often asking the commonsense questions the other characters don't think of. (Also see [[WomenAreWiser Women Are Wiser]].WomenAreWiser.)



* Magma in the first ''VideoGame/XMenLegends'' game, who is a mutant saved and taken in by the X-Men. We go through her first days in training all the way h to becoming the newest member of the team, though the first few missions don't even have her as a playable character.

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* Magma in the first ''VideoGame/XMenLegends'' game, who is a mutant saved and taken in by the X-Men. We go through her first days in training all the way h to becoming the newest member of the team, though the first few missions don't even have her as a playable character.



* Martin Walker from ''SpecOpsTheLine'' is played for every negative connotation this trope provides. He treats the events of the story the way your average modern military shooter player would: As a power fantasy and a chance to feel like a hero. In the process, he does a number of horrible things, and every single one of them is [[YouBastard your fault.]]

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* Martin Walker from ''SpecOpsTheLine'' ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine'' is played for every negative connotation this trope provides. He treats the events of the story the way your average modern military shooter player would: As a power fantasy and a chance to feel like a hero. In the process, he does a number of horrible things, and every single one of them is [[YouBastard your fault.]]



** The first one is [[spoiler:Flowey. For a substantial portion of any run, he projects on Frisk, believing them to be his friend the Fallen Child when they've never actually met; in the True Pacifist run, as Asriel, he plans to reset the entire timeline so he can keep having fun with his "friends;" and in the Genocide run, he talks about how his own genocidal actions were motivated, in part, by the repetitiveness of helping everyone and the realization that they were all scripted actors. All of this is set up to directly parallel the player's own motivations and actions, especially if they took the anticipated path of doing a True Pacifist run and resetting for No Mercy.]]
** The second one is [[spoiler: the Fallen Child who, as an embodiment of completionism and powergaming during the Genocide run, acts similarly to the player. Through the Fallen Child's actions, the player is shown just who they've been acting like: a crazed killer whom the lesser monsters fear and the more powerful ones die fighting heroically. As a bonus, if you decide to go against the Fallen Child, essentially who you were, at the last moment, you will be greeted by the same familiar determination, just on the other end of the stick.]]

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** The first one is [[spoiler:Flowey. For a substantial portion of any run, he projects on Frisk, believing them to be his friend the Fallen Child when they've never actually met; in the True Pacifist run, as Asriel, he plans to reset the entire timeline so he can keep having fun with his "friends;" and in the Genocide run, he talks about how his own genocidal actions were motivated, in part, by the repetitiveness of helping everyone and the realization that they were all scripted actors. All of this is set up to directly parallel the player's own motivations and actions, especially if they took the anticipated path of doing a True Pacifist run and resetting for No Mercy.]]
Mercy]].
** The second one is [[spoiler: the Fallen Child who, as an embodiment of completionism and powergaming during the Genocide run, acts similarly to the player. Through the Fallen Child's actions, the player is shown just who they've been acting like: a crazed killer whom the lesser monsters fear and the more powerful ones die fighting heroically. As a bonus, if you decide to go against the Fallen Child, essentially who you were, at the last moment, you will be greeted by the same familiar determination, just on the other end of the stick.]]stick]].



** Frank Grimes in the infamous eighth-season episode "Homer's Enemy". The character's sole purpose was to represent a realistic person from [[RealLife our universe]] -- accustomed to toil, pressures and hardship with little, if anything, to show for it -- transplanted into a [[CrapsackWorld universe]] that [[IdiotHoudini caters to and rewards the lazy and stupid]], and how it would understandably drive him/her ''absolutely insane''.
*** Granted, his childhood was pretty exaggerated and far from being realistic so perhaps more of a cariacture of a real person.

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** Frank Grimes in the infamous eighth-season episode "Homer's Enemy". The character's sole purpose was to represent a realistic person from [[RealLife our universe]] -- accustomed to toil, pressures and hardship with little, if anything, to show for it -- transplanted into a [[CrapsackWorld universe]] that [[IdiotHoudini caters to and rewards the lazy and stupid]], and how it would understandably drive him/her ''absolutely insane''.
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insane''. Granted, his childhood was pretty exaggerated and far from being realistic so perhaps more of a cariacture of a real person.



* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' has Stan and Kyle, which would make sense since they were supposedly based off of the show's creators TreyParkerAndMattStone respectively.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' has Stan and Kyle, which would make sense since they were supposedly based off of the show's creators TreyParkerAndMattStone Creator/TreyParkerAndMattStone respectively.



* Steven himself is this in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''. The audience never knows about or sees something he doesn't. When there are shifts in POV, it's usually a story being told to Steven.
** The only time in the entire series where there's an actual POV shift (i.e. the audience follows another character and Steven isn't aware of what is happening with this character) is most of Garnet's fight against Jasper in "Jail Break".

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* Steven himself is this in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''. The audience never knows about or sees something he doesn't. When there are shifts in POV, it's usually a story being told to Steven.
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Steven. The only time in the entire series where there's an actual POV shift (i.e. the audience follows another character and Steven isn't aware of what is happening with this character) is most of Garnet's fight against Jasper in "Jail Break".
3rd Jul '16 10:21:45 AM Anddrix
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** The Seagulls when they question Burger Beard's narration of The Movie.
** Bubbles the dolphin becomes this at the end, when he tries to force The Seagulls to stop singing the Theme Song. He represents the people who dislike The [=SpongeBob=] franchise, while the seagulls represent the devoted fans. The Rap Battle between him and the seagulls served as a little bit of Self-Deprecating humor but ultimately turned into a TakeThatCritics moment when he felt compelled to admit the song was "pretty good".

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** The Seagulls seagulls when they question Burger Beard's narration of The Movie.
** Bubbles
the dolphin becomes this at the end, when he tries to force The Seagulls to stop singing the Theme Song. He represents the people who dislike The [=SpongeBob=] franchise, while the seagulls represent the devoted fans. The Rap Battle between him and the seagulls served as a little bit of Self-Deprecating humor but ultimately turned into a TakeThatCritics moment when he felt compelled to admit the song was "pretty good". movie.
29th Jun '16 3:05:13 PM YesnoYes
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' is Yuna's story from start to finish, but one of Tidus's major roles in the plot is so people who've lived within this society all their lives have to explain it to somebody.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' is Yuna's story from start to finish, but one One of Tidus's major roles in the plot is so people who've lived within this the society of Spira all their lives have to explain it to somebody.
10th Jun '16 6:29:06 AM Wildstar93
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* The author of ''Literature/WingsOfFire'' [[WordOfGod confirmed]] that choosing [[TheBigGuy Clay]] as the protagonist of the first book was perfect for this reason. Clay has a poor memory for scrolls and details, meaning that he's always hearing information about the ''Wings of Fire'' world for the first time that he remembers clearly.
8th Jun '16 9:44:40 PM Doug86
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* Rick Jones, sidekick to Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk, is an audience surrogate originally created for young baby boomers. He's an ordinary, well meaning teenager, but one who has more of an authority problem than previous teen comics characters.

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* Rick Jones, sidekick to Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk, the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk, is an audience surrogate originally created for young baby boomers. He's an ordinary, well meaning teenager, but one who has more of an authority problem than previous teen comics characters.
28th May '16 7:55:44 AM Hinooka-Homu
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* Main character Homura Hinooka from the [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Type-Moon]] light novel series ''LightNovel/FireGirl''. It's through her that we get to witness how her world works and how and why UNPIEP, aka the Exploration Club exploring the mysterious planet Nutella, came to be in the first place. While having an audience surrogate in the Nasuverse isn't a new thing thanks to the lore and complicated systems there, what makes her stand out from most [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} other]] [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Type]][[VisualNovel/MahouTsukaiNoYoru -Moon]] [[LightNovel/{{DDD}} protagonists]] with her position is that she's the most ''relatable and comparatively normal one from among all of them''.

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* Main character Homura Hinooka from the [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Type-Moon]] light novel series ''LightNovel/FireGirl''. It's through her that we get to witness how her world works adventures and how the grandeur and mechanics of the mysterious planet Imaginary Earth and why UNPIEP, aka the organization the Exploration Club is under, in-charge of exploring the mysterious planet Nutella, said planet, came to be in the first place. While having an audience surrogate in the Nasuverse isn't a new thing thanks to the lore and complicated systems there, what makes her stand out from most [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} other]] [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Type]][[VisualNovel/MahouTsukaiNoYoru -Moon]] [[LightNovel/{{DDD}} protagonists]] with her position is that she's the most ''relatable and comparatively normal one from among all of them''.
24th May '16 9:02:08 PM Doug86
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* In his introduction to ''Literature/TheBookOfLostTales'', Christopher Tolkien supposes that the reason ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' was less popular than ''The Lord of the Rings'' is that it lacked an AudienceSurrogate. In fact, the original draft of ''The Silmarillion'' (the ''Lost Tales'') actually did have an AudienceSurrogate -- a Man named Ælfwine of England to whom the tales of the First Age were narrated by the Elves.

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* In his introduction to ''Literature/TheBookOfLostTales'', Christopher Tolkien supposes that the reason ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' was less popular than ''The Lord of the Rings'' is that it lacked an AudienceSurrogate. In fact, the original draft of ''The Silmarillion'' (the ''Lost Tales'') actually did have an AudienceSurrogate -- a Man named Ælfwine [=Æ=]lfwine of England to whom the tales of the First Age were narrated by the Elves.
23rd May '16 8:56:35 PM Willbyr
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* Main character Homura Hinooka from the [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Type-Moon]] light novel series ''LightNovel/FireGirl''. It's through her that we get to witness how her world works and how and why UNPIEP, aka the Exploration Club exploring the mysterious planet Nutella, came to be in the first place. While having an audience surrogate in the {{Nasuverse}} isn't a new thing thanks to the lore and complicated systems there, what makes her stand out from most [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} other]] [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Type]][[VisualNovel/MahouTsukaiNoYoru -Moon]] [[LightNovel/{{DDD}} protagonists]] with her position is that she's the most ''relatable and comparatively normal one from among all of them''.

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* Main character Homura Hinooka from the [[Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} Type-Moon]] light novel series ''LightNovel/FireGirl''. It's through her that we get to witness how her world works and how and why UNPIEP, aka the Exploration Club exploring the mysterious planet Nutella, came to be in the first place. While having an audience surrogate in the {{Nasuverse}} Nasuverse isn't a new thing thanks to the lore and complicated systems there, what makes her stand out from most [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} other]] [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Type]][[VisualNovel/MahouTsukaiNoYoru -Moon]] [[LightNovel/{{DDD}} protagonists]] with her position is that she's the most ''relatable and comparatively normal one from among all of them''.



* Probably the most well known audience surrogate in comics is also one of the most popular characters, which is largely cited to be ''because'' of how much of an AudienceSurrogate he is: [[{{Spider-Man}} Peter Parker, The Amazing Spider-Man]]. His status as this is part of the reason he was created and why he sold so well.

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* Probably the most well known audience surrogate in comics is also one of the most popular characters, which is largely cited to be ''because'' of how much of an AudienceSurrogate he is: [[{{Spider-Man}} [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Peter Parker, The Amazing Spider-Man]]. His status as this is part of the reason he was created and why he sold so well.
21st May '16 2:58:24 PM AireDaleDogz
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** The only time in the entire series where there's an actual POV shift (i.e. the audience follows another character and Steven isn't aware of what is happening with this character) is most of Garnet's fight against Jasper in "Jail Break".
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