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14th Aug '16 8:12:35 AM Morgenthaler
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7th Mar '16 5:15:04 PM Josef5678
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* Overuse of AppealToPity is one of the reasons why {{Wangst}} and {{Sympathetic Sue}}s only get responded with DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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* Overuse of AppealToPity appeal to pity is one of the reasons why {{Wangst}} and {{Sympathetic Sue}}s only get responded with DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.



* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a {{Jerkass}}, but only because this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Note that a Freudian Excuse can function as a legitimate explanation ''if the author does not rely solely on sympathy''. A Freudian Excuse may instead explain how the environment conditioned and motivated the character's bad behaviour. (E.g. He lived in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, and came to a logical conclusion that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ruthlessness]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeance]] and SocialDarwinism are necessary for survival and [[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)

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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a {{Jerkass}}, but only because this horrible thing happen happened to him when he was a child." Note that a Freudian Excuse can function as a legitimate explanation ''if the author does not rely solely on sympathy''. A Freudian Excuse may instead explain how the environment conditioned and motivated the character's bad behaviour. (E.g. He lived in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, and came to a logical conclusion that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ruthlessness]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeance]] and SocialDarwinism are necessary for survival and [[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)
29th Jun '15 6:49:43 AM imadmagician
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* ThinkOfTheChildren, in which the subject of the argument is claimed to adversely affect children. This works not only because it appeals to people's natural instinct to protect children, but because it implies that anyone who disagrees is [[{{Jerkass}} a big meanie]] [[ChildHater who hates children]]. (Note that this itself is a fallacious FalseDichotomy.)

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* ThinkOfTheChildren, in which the subject of the argument is claimed to adversely affect children. This works not only because it appeals to people's natural instinct to protect children, but because it implies that anyone who disagrees is [[{{Jerkass}} a big meanie]] [[ChildHater who hates children]]. (Note that this itself is a fallacious FalseDichotomy.FalseDichotomy, as one can care for others but still need to successfully manage their business to provide income for many workers, who may also have kids to feed.)
9th Jun '14 9:45:52 AM Kazmahu
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* ThinkOfTheChildren, in which the subject of the argument is claimed to adversely affect children. This works not only because it appeals to people's natural instinct to protect children, but because it implies that anyone who disagrees is [[{{Jerkass}} a big meanie]] [[ChildHater who hates children]].

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* ThinkOfTheChildren, in which the subject of the argument is claimed to adversely affect children. This works not only because it appeals to people's natural instinct to protect children, but because it implies that anyone who disagrees is [[{{Jerkass}} a big meanie]] [[ChildHater who hates children]]. (Note that this itself is a fallacious FalseDichotomy.)
10th Jun '13 1:40:14 PM DCC
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!!! Looks like this fallacy, but isn't:
* Can be an AppealToConsequences, arguing that bad things will happen to pitiful victims. See AppealToConsequences for times when that might not be a fallacy.
13th Apr '13 11:29:12 AM memememememe
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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a {{Jerkass}}, but only because this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Note that a Freudian Excuse can function as a legitimate explanation ''if the author does not rely solely on sympathy''. A Freudian Excuse may instead explain how the environment conditioned and motivated the character's bad behavior. (E.g. He lived in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, learning that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ruthlessness]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeance]] and SocialDarwinism are necessary for survival and [[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)

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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a {{Jerkass}}, but only because this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Note that a Freudian Excuse can function as a legitimate explanation ''if the author does not rely solely on sympathy''. A Freudian Excuse may instead explain how the environment conditioned and motivated the character's bad behavior.behaviour. (E.g. He lived in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, learning and came to a logical conclusion that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ruthlessness]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeance]] and SocialDarwinism are necessary for survival and [[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)
13th Mar '13 6:54:34 PM Chaos009
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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a jackass. But it's because he had this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Now Freudian excuse is a legitimate explanation if it did not rely on sole sympathy, but rather the Freudian Excuse is used to logically explain how the environment conditioned and motivated his bad behaviour (e.g., in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, it's very reasonable for a child to adopt ruthlessness, vengeance and SocialDarwinism for the sake of survival and [[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)

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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a jackass. But it's {{Jerkass}}, but only because he had this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Now Note that a Freudian excuse is Excuse can function as a legitimate explanation if it did ''if the author does not rely solely on sole sympathy, but rather the sympathy''. A Freudian Excuse is used to logically may instead explain how the environment conditioned and motivated his the character's bad behaviour (e.behavior. (E.g., He lived in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, it's very reasonable for a child to adopt ruthlessness, vengeance learning that [[IDidWhatIHadToDo ruthlessness]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeance]] and SocialDarwinism are necessary for the sake of survival and [[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)
16th Nov '12 5:06:14 AM memememememe
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* Overuse of AppealToPity is one of the reasons why {{Wangst}} descends into DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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* Overuse of AppealToPity is one of the reasons why {{Wangst}} descends into and {{Sympathetic Sue}}s only get responded with DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
16th Nov '12 4:42:04 AM memememememe
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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a jackass. But it's because he had this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Now Freudian excuse is a legitimate explanation if it did not rely on sole sympathy, but rather the Freudian Excuse is used to logically explain how the environment conditioned and motivated his bad behaviour (e.g., in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, it's very reasonable for a child to adopt ruthlessness, vengeance and SocialDarwinism in order to survive and climb up the social hierarchy.)

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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a jackass. But it's because he had this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Now Freudian excuse is a legitimate explanation if it did not rely on sole sympathy, but rather the Freudian Excuse is used to logically explain how the environment conditioned and motivated his bad behaviour (e.g., in a CrapsackWorld, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, it's very reasonable for a child to adopt ruthlessness, vengeance and SocialDarwinism in order to survive for the sake of survival and climb up the social hierarchy.[[AmbitionIsEvil self-improvement]].)
16th Nov '12 4:40:26 AM memememememe
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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a jackass. But it's because he had this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Now Freudian excuse is a legitimate explanation if it did not rely on sole sympathy, but rather the Freudian Excuse is used to logically explain how the environment conditioned and motivated his bad behaviour (e.g., in a CrapsackWorld, WrtetchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, it's fairly reasonable for a child to adopt ruthlessness, vengeance and SocialDarwinism in order to survive and climb up the social hierarchy.)

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* FreudianExcuse. "Yes, he's a jackass. But it's because he had this horrible thing happen to him when he was a child." Now Freudian excuse is a legitimate explanation if it did not rely on sole sympathy, but rather the Freudian Excuse is used to logically explain how the environment conditioned and motivated his bad behaviour (e.g., in a CrapsackWorld, WrtetchedHive, WretchedHive, or other such hellish MightMakesRight environment where NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished, it's fairly very reasonable for a child to adopt ruthlessness, vengeance and SocialDarwinism in order to survive and climb up the social hierarchy.)
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