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13th Aug '17 8:57:05 AM sgamer82
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* ''Anime/HaibaneRenmei'': Rakka is born (from an egg) into a strange isolated [[strike:prison]] town ruled by creepy, aloof clerics, sprouts wings, is given a halo that mysteriously hovers on her head, has to obey arbitrary rules (e.g. she can only buy used items) and ''doesn't question any of it''.
** She does have LaserGuidedAmnesia about her previous existence, so it's quite possible that she has no way of knowing if any of this is weird or not. This isn't so strange considering that the entire setting of Haibane Renmei is a rip-off / homage to the dream world in ''Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World'', by Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami, which the protagonist doesn't question much either. (The bird skeleton in the well is another homage / rip-off of a scene from another of his books, ''The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle'', by the way.)
** In addition to ''all'' of the Haibane having amnesia about their previous existences, the series spends the first five episodes largely just to introduce the setting and characters. And then it turns out that the older Haibane have their own predicament to worry about (and they certainly aren't apathetic about it) and have varying degrees of acceptance of their environment.
** She's got no one to ask. The only people who might know something are the Toga and the Communicator, but neither of them really responds to questioning.
** Probably the best justification is that all of the Haibane ended up there because [[spoiler: they were all too naive, rudderless, timid, resigned or depressed before their deaths to enter the true afterlife]]. Fatalism might very well be their [[strike:[[PlanetOfHats Hat]]]]halo.

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* ''Anime/HaibaneRenmei'': ''Anime/HaibaneRenmei'':
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Rakka is born (from an egg) into a strange isolated [[strike:prison]] town ruled by creepy, aloof clerics, sprouts wings, is given a halo that mysteriously hovers on her head, has to obey arbitrary rules (e.g. rules, such as she can only buy used items) items, and ''doesn't question any of it''.
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it''. She does have LaserGuidedAmnesia about her previous existence, so it's quite possible that she has no way of knowing if any of this is weird or not. This isn't so strange considering that the entire setting of Haibane Renmei is a rip-off / homage to the dream world in ''Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World'', by Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami, which the protagonist doesn't question much either. (The bird skeleton in She also has no one to ask. The only people who might know something are the well is another homage / rip-off of a scene from another of his books, ''The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle'', by Toga and the way.)
Communicator, but neither of them really responds to questioning.
** In addition to ''all'' of the Haibane having amnesia about their previous existences, the series spends the first five episodes largely just to introduce the setting and characters. And then it turns out that the older Haibane have their own predicament to worry about (and they certainly aren't apathetic about it) and have varying degrees of acceptance of their environment.
** She's got no one to ask. The only people who might know something are the Toga and the Communicator, but neither of them really responds to questioning.
** Probably the best justification is that all of the Haibane ended up there because [[spoiler: they were all too naive, rudderless, timid, resigned or depressed before their deaths to enter the true afterlife]]. Fatalism might very well be their [[strike:[[PlanetOfHats Hat]]]]halo.
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** Many fighters are so self-absorbed (or so sure that they already have the answers) that they never ask critical survival questions, even internally, never note anything potentially threatening until it's on top of them, even if they've already seen how lethal it can be.

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** Many fighters are so self-absorbed (or self-absorbed, or so sure that they already have the answers) answers, that they never ask critical survival questions, even internally, and never note anything potentially threatening until it's on top of them, even if they've already seen how lethal it can be.



* Magic! Flying whales! Demons! See also: vampires, robot girls, immortality, PettingZooPeople, telepathy, time dilation, the entire magical world itself and more. However, don't ask what the hell is going on. You might get turned into an ermine or something. Chisame is the only character to show the slightest interest... by running ''away'' from the answer. Welcome to ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' everyone!
** And of course, everybody ends up finding out about it anyway.
** The other major exception is Haruna; when she finds out about magic, she threatens to torture her three best friends for not telling her sooner.
*** She sort of did.
* ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'': Kyon. Just....holy crap, Kyon. In less than a week he discovers the existence of aliens, espers, time travellers, and (according to one theory) {{God}} and it ''annoys him'' and he avoids any and all exploration of the ramifications unless forced otherwise by TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. And even then, he only does the minimum that he has to.
** Kyon is almost unbelievably lazy. Also an UnreliableNarrator. It's still ridiculous though.
** To be fair, he does ask questions. It's just that he either gets no answer (Mikuru), an answer that doesn't make sense (Koizumi and Yuki), or an answer that makes sense that has 'unreliable!' written all over it (Koizumi and Mikuru, Yuki claims it). [[spoiler:Oh, and the anti SOS Brigade puts all three together.]]
*** Also, he is extraordinarily smart, to the point that when he passes the first couple of reveals, his reaction goes from mild surprise/annoyance to "checked, checked, checked". In fact, his ability to cope with the increasingly weird situations is (in Itsuke's opinion) what makes him special.
* Completely averted in Manga/DeathNote. The reason Light is able to get away with so much crap (and drive the whole plot) is because he '''does''' ask all the questions. He figures out things that even the {{Shinigami}} didn't know, despite having centuries to learn. And, unfortunately, uses this knowledge to kill tens to hundreds of thousands of people.
** He even asked the afterlife question we all thought he was ignoring all along, they just don't show us until he's dying. Unfortunately, he's a lot less pleased with the thought of TheNothingAfterDeath while bleeding out than he was while plotting world domination in his bedroom.
*** And the fact that he elected to ''ignore'' Ryuk's promise to kill him eventually is more denial than apathy.

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* ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'': Magic! Flying whales! Demons! See also: vampires, robot girls, immortality, PettingZooPeople, telepathy, time dilation, the entire magical world itself and more. However, don't ask what the hell is going on. You might get turned into an ermine or something. Chisame is the only character to show the slightest interest... by running ''away'' from the answer. Welcome to ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' everyone!
** And of course, everybody ends up finding out about it anyway.
**
The other major exception is Haruna; when she finds out about magic, she threatens to torture her three best friends for not telling her sooner.
*** She sort of did.
* ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'': Kyon. Just....holy crap, Kyon. In less than a week he discovers the existence of aliens, espers, time travellers, and (according travelers, and, according to one theory) theory, {{God}} and it ''annoys him'' and so much that he avoids any and all exploration of the ramifications unless forced otherwise by TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. And even Even then, he only does the minimum that he has to.
** Kyon is almost unbelievably lazy. Also an UnreliableNarrator. It's still ridiculous though.
** To be fair,
to. The times he does ask questions. It's just that questions, he either gets no answer (Mikuru), from Mikuru, an answer that doesn't make sense (Koizumi from Koizumi and Yuki), Yuki, or an answer that makes sense that has 'unreliable!' written all over it (Koizumi and Mikuru, Yuki claims it).from all of the above. [[spoiler:Oh, and the anti SOS Brigade puts all three together.]]
*** Also,
]] His saving grace is that he is extraordinarily smart, smart to the point that that, when he passes the first couple of reveals, his reaction goes from mild surprise/annoyance surprise and annoyance to "checked, checked, checked". In fact, his ability to cope with the increasingly weird situations is (in is, in Itsuke's opinion) opinion, what makes him special.
* Completely averted in Manga/DeathNote. ''Manga/DeathNote''
** Averted by Light.
The reason Light he is able to get away with so much crap (and and drive the whole plot) plot is because he '''does''' ask all the questions. He figures out things that even the {{Shinigami}} didn't know, despite having centuries to learn. And, unfortunately, uses this knowledge to kill tens to hundreds of thousands of people.
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people. He even asked the afterlife question we all thought he was ignoring all along, they just don't show us until he's dying. Unfortunately, he's a lot less pleased with the thought of TheNothingAfterDeath while bleeding out than he was while plotting world domination in his bedroom.
*** And the fact ** The Shinigami, themselves, are more apathetic as Ryuk notes multiple times that he elected Light has found ways to ''ignore'' Ryuk's promise to kill him eventually is more denial than apathy.use the Death Note nobody ever thought of before.



* In ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'', Gordon Freeman seems perfectly happy to join up with the first faction he meets without asking simple questions like "Who are you fighting?", "Why?" or "Do you have any kind of plan?". Or [[HeroicMime saying anything at all, actually.]] There is a bit of a HandWave in that said faction does consist largely of his former coworkers and friends.

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* In ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'', ''VideoGame/HalfLife2:''
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Gordon Freeman seems perfectly happy to join up with the first faction he meets without asking simple questions like "Who are you fighting?", "Why?" or "Do you have any kind of plan?". Or [[HeroicMime saying anything at all, actually.]] There is a bit of a HandWave in that said faction does consist largely of his former coworkers and friends.



* In ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', when James sees his first monster, he promptly whacks it with a board and wonders briefly what it is. After that, he never questions anything else about the decidedly messed up town he's in. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] because he's ''completely nuts''.
* Henry of ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' suffers from the same lack of reflection on the circumstances he's facing. Could be justified in that he's been through extended isolation, sleep deprivation and malnourishment to the point that he could be prone to and apathetic to hallucination, but this is simply a projection of conditions only alluded to in the beginning, and never touched on through the story. Heck, the first person he runs into, a woman named Velasquez, assumes it's all a weird dream and comes on to Henry. Most of the other people who end up in the [[DarkWorld Other Side]] have similar confused and muted reactions, if at all, as the crack head doesn't seem to even see the monsters.
* Subverted in ''VideoGame/SilentHill3''. Like those before her, Heather assumes the monsters to be either demons or illusions, only to be rebuffed with the famous line: ''"Monsters? They look like monsters to you?"'' [[spoiler: Of course, Vincent is a ManipulativeBastard of a psychiatrist/cult leader, so he may just be trying to mess with her.]]

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* ''Franchise/SilentHill:''
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In ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', when James sees his first monster, he promptly whacks it with a board and wonders briefly what it is. After that, he never questions anything else about the decidedly messed up town he's in. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] because he's ''completely nuts''.
* ** Subverted in ''VideoGame/SilentHill3''. Like those before her, Heather assumes the monsters to be either demons or illusions, only to be rebuffed with the famous line: ''"Monsters? They look like monsters to you?"'' [[spoiler: Of course, Vincent is a ManipulativeBastard of a psychiatrist/cult leader, so he may just be trying to mess with her.]]
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Henry of ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' suffers from the same lack of reflection on the circumstances he's facing. Could be justified in that he's been through extended isolation, sleep deprivation and malnourishment to the point that he could be prone to and apathetic to hallucination, but this is simply a projection of conditions only alluded to in the beginning, and never touched on through the story. Heck, the first person he runs into, a woman named Velasquez, assumes it's all a weird dream and comes on to Henry. Most of the other people who end up in the [[DarkWorld Other Side]] have similar confused and muted reactions, if at all, as the crack head doesn't seem to even see the monsters.
* Subverted in ''VideoGame/SilentHill3''. Like those before her, Heather assumes the monsters to be either demons or illusions, only to be rebuffed with the famous line: ''"Monsters? They look like monsters to you?"'' [[spoiler: Of course, Vincent is a ManipulativeBastard of a psychiatrist/cult leader, so he may just be trying to mess with her.]]
monsters.
20th May '17 4:21:59 PM nombretomado
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* A rule in most comic book universes where the FantasyKitchenSink is prevalent and anyone can be PalsWithJesus. This is particularly bad in DC where much of VertigoComics deals with the supernatural. You'd think that there'd be at least ''some'' intersection between characters who know about the afterlife and characters willing to say "I have positive proof that Christianity is false, because the afterlife you get is based on what you believe".

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* A rule in most comic book universes where the FantasyKitchenSink is prevalent and anyone can be PalsWithJesus. This is particularly bad in DC where much of VertigoComics Creator/VertigoComics deals with the supernatural. You'd think that there'd be at least ''some'' intersection between characters who know about the afterlife and characters willing to say "I have positive proof that Christianity is false, because the afterlife you get is based on what you believe".
13th Apr '17 8:52:09 PM CHLORINEGARGOYLE
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* In the movie ''Film/{{Wanted}}'' it didn't seem to faze anyone that a loom has been ordering the deaths of otherwise unknown people by producing names via medieval binary. One would think that upon learning of this a normal person would want to see if a name was always the result or if it was just a random side effect of a constantly operating loom. Not to mention check to see if the people named always did something wrong or if the all knowing loom had just gotten lucky once.
8th Apr '17 10:22:12 PM TeraChimera
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* Invoked in ''Film/{{Looper}}''. Joe asks his future self about time travel and memories, but Old Joe shuts him down, pointing out how confusing time travel can be. "I don't want to talk about time travel shit. Because if we talk about it, then we're gonna be here all day, drawing diagrams with straws."

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* Invoked in ''Film/{{Looper}}''. Joe asks his future self about time travel and memories, but Old Joe shuts him down, pointing out how confusing time travel can be. "I don't want to talk about time travel shit. Because if we talk about it, then we're gonna be here all day, drawing diagrams with straws." Abe, who's also from the future, concurs: "This time travel shit just fries your brain like an egg."
21st Mar '17 1:01:24 PM JohnnyHuang
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* Henry of ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' suffers from the same lack of reflection on the circumstances he's facing. Could be justified in that he's been through extended isolation, sleep deprivation and malnourishment to the point that he could be prone to and apathetic to hallucination, but this is simply a projection of conditions only alluded to in the beginning, and never touched on through the story. Heck, the first person he runs into, a woman named Vasquez(?), assumes it's all a weird dream and comes on to Henry. Most of the other people who end up in the [[DarkWorld Other Side]] have similar confused and muted reactions, if at all, as the crack head doesn't seem to even see the monsters.

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* Henry of ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' suffers from the same lack of reflection on the circumstances he's facing. Could be justified in that he's been through extended isolation, sleep deprivation and malnourishment to the point that he could be prone to and apathetic to hallucination, but this is simply a projection of conditions only alluded to in the beginning, and never touched on through the story. Heck, the first person he runs into, a woman named Vasquez(?), Velasquez, assumes it's all a weird dream and comes on to Henry. Most of the other people who end up in the [[DarkWorld Other Side]] have similar confused and muted reactions, if at all, as the crack head doesn't seem to even see the monsters.
20th Feb '17 2:27:30 PM margdean56
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* Averted and played straight several times in an early Star Trek: Voyager novel. When Neelix leads Voyager to a planet full of wrecked ships (needed for critical spare parts), Torres and Kim promptly began an exhaustive examination of the one powered vessel. Neelix, not caring and deciding that he is useless, decides to take a nap. This sends the ship (a passenger time machine) back in time. Later, we meet an operative who's job is to scare away any "Planet-Hoppers" (The term this people use to refer to the "crazy" races that use dangerous space travel instead of safe time travel) from the abandoned eras of the planet. His main weapon is strange events that the intruders don't care to investigate properly.
* In ''Literature/TheOtherworld'' humans occasionally witness surreal incidents and do nothing. In one such instance the witnesses were, in all fairness, stoned, but in ''Bitten'' Elena's fiance watches her turn into a wolf and when she questions him on it later he claims he'd passed out long before she arived and transformed.

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* Averted and played straight several times in an early Star Trek: Voyager novel. When Neelix leads Voyager to a planet full of wrecked ships (needed for critical spare parts), Torres and Kim promptly began an exhaustive examination of the one powered vessel. Neelix, not caring and deciding that he is useless, decides to take a nap. This sends the ship (a passenger time machine) back in time. Later, we meet an operative who's whose job is to scare away any "Planet-Hoppers" (The (the term this people use to refer to the "crazy" races that use dangerous space travel instead of safe time travel) from the abandoned eras of the planet. His main weapon is strange events that the intruders don't care to investigate properly.
* In ''Literature/TheOtherworld'' humans occasionally witness surreal incidents and do nothing. In one such instance the witnesses were, in all fairness, stoned, but in ''Bitten'' Elena's fiance fiancé watches her turn into a wolf and when she questions him on it later he claims he'd passed out long before she arived arrived and transformed.
20th Feb '17 2:22:45 PM margdean56
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** It's canon in D.C. comics that the after life is pretty much whatever the heck you think it is. That is, until hell comes to Earth and starts eating people, which happens about twice a year.

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** It's canon in D.C. DC comics that the after life afterlife is pretty much whatever the heck you think it is. That is, until hell comes to Earth and starts eating people, which happens about twice a year.
20th Feb '17 2:20:35 PM margdean56
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Compare MisappliedPhlebotinum and ForgottenPhlebotinum. See also ItsProbablyNothing, and BystanderSyndrome. Contrast AchievementsInIgnorance, for when this is neccessary.

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Compare MisappliedPhlebotinum and ForgottenPhlebotinum. See also ItsProbablyNothing, and BystanderSyndrome. Contrast AchievementsInIgnorance, for when this is neccessary.
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17th Jan '17 5:23:31 AM rahalstmin
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** Another example is an episode from the 7th Season, where the Enterprise '''creates life in the holodeck of its own volition.''' The crew's response to this unprecedented and possibly terrifying event? "Oh well, that happened." Then there's the fact that Dr. Soong slaved for years to create a positronic brain capable of supporting a sentient consciousness, a feat that no one else has been able to duplicate, and then an off-hand comment by Geordi to the ship's computer results in the creation of an apparently sentient, self-aware holodeck character. No-one seems particularly interested in investigating how this happened or whether the effect could be duplicated once the immediate danger to the ship is resolved.

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** Another example is an episode from the 7th Season, where the Enterprise '''creates life in the holodeck of its own volition.''' The crew's response to this unprecedented and possibly terrifying event? "Oh well, that happened." Then there's the fact that Dr. Soong slaved for years to create a positronic brain capable of supporting a sentient consciousness, a feat that no one else has been able to duplicate, and then an off-hand comment by Geordi to the ship's computer results in the creation of an apparently sentient, self-aware holodeck character. No-one seems particularly interested in investigating how this happened or whether the effect could be duplicated once the immediate danger to the ship is resolved.
19th Nov '16 6:18:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''TheOtherworld'' humans occasionally witness surreal incidents and do nothing. In one such instance the witnesses were, in all fairness, stoned, but in ''Bitten'' Elena's fiance watches her turn into a wolf and when she questions him on it later he claims he'd passed out long before she arived and transformed.

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* In ''TheOtherworld'' ''Literature/TheOtherworld'' humans occasionally witness surreal incidents and do nothing. In one such instance the witnesses were, in all fairness, stoned, but in ''Bitten'' Elena's fiance watches her turn into a wolf and when she questions him on it later he claims he'd passed out long before she arived and transformed.
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