History Literature / Ultramarines

14th Jan '18 2:11:01 PM Yozzy
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* TheAtoner: Starting in ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'', Uriel and Passanius are exiled from the chapter and sent out on a [[SuicideMission death oath]] in penance of...[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous breaking with the Codex Astartes]].[[note]]In context, this meant breaking not only with Chapter tradition, but Chapter laws and a possible violation of, in the Ultramarines' eyes, what separates what a marine should be from those that had turned away from the Emperor.[[/note]]

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* TheAtoner: Starting in TheAtoner:
* In
''Dead Sky, Black Sun'', Sun'' Uriel and Passanius are exiled from the chapter and sent out on a [[SuicideMission death oath]] in penance of...penance.
** Uriel was sent for leaving his Ultramarines on the surface of Tarsis Ultra to aid the Deathwatch mission against the Tyranid Queen. While it turned out to be the right decision to achieve the more strategically important goal, it meant he had effectively abandoned his post.
** Pasanius was sent for
[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous breaking with the Codex Astartes]].[[note]]In not telling anybody about his prosthetic arm being self-repairing]] out of shame. In context, it meant that hr failed to swallow his pride and inform anybody that his arm wasn't of human make, which meant that he courted corruption by an alien artifact, or worse, a ''Chaotic'' one.
** For both of them,
this meant breaking not only with Chapter tradition, but tradition and Chapter laws and laws, but a possible violation of, in the Ultramarines' eyes, of what separates what a marine should be from those that had turned away Loyalist Marine from the Emperor.[[/note]]Traitors.



* BigBookOfWar: The ''Codex Astartes'', which Roboute Guilliman wrote after the Literature/HorusHeresy suggesting organization and tactics for virtually any scenario that Guilliman could have thought of at the time. However, by the 41st millennium there are new threats which Guilliman never foresaw. One of the underlying themes of [=McNeill=]'s series is the Ultramarines learning when and when not to follow it.
** 6th edition more or less confirms that the Codex has been edited and added to over the years to make up for this, the ''Warzone Damnos'' book states Calgar adding a large amount of Necron information in it.
*** This has always been the case. Where the confusion comes from is probably the huge deal made over the Tyrannic War Veterans. But that was because they were suggesting altering the structure of their chapter, not adding in some new tactics or strategies.
** There's actually a quote from Guilliman himself which makes perfectly clear that he was fully aware he couldn't foresee every possible scenario and that the Codex was intended more as guidelines than the be-all and end-all:
->'''Gulliman''': No one, not even one such as I, can anticipate every possible outcome of battle. My words are not some holy writ that must be obeyed. There must always be room for personal initiative on the battlefield.

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* BigBookOfWar: The ''Codex Astartes'', which Roboute Guilliman wrote after the Literature/HorusHeresy suggesting organization and tactics for virtually any scenario that Guilliman could have thought of at the time. However, by the 41st millennium there are new threats which Guilliman never foresaw. One of the underlying themes of [=McNeill=]'s series is the Ultramarines learning when and when not to follow it.\n** 6th edition more or less confirms that the Codex has been edited and added to over the years to make up for this, the ''Warzone Damnos'' book states Calgar adding a large amount of Necron information in it.\n*** This has always been the case. Where the confusion comes from is probably the huge deal made over the Tyrannic War Veterans. But that was because they were suggesting altering the structure of their chapter, not adding in some new tactics or strategies.\n** There's actually a quote from Guilliman himself which makes perfectly clear that he was fully aware he couldn't foresee every possible scenario and that the Codex was intended more as guidelines than the be-all and end-all:\n->'''Gulliman''': No one, not even one such as I, can anticipate every possible outcome of battle. My words are not some holy writ that must be obeyed. There must always be room for personal initiative on the battlefield.
10th Sep '16 10:27:42 AM Bissek
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* TheBadGuyWins: In ''The Killing Ground'', the power of the BigBad is broken before it reaches the point where it can destroy the world of Salinas by ''giving him what he wanted'' - [[spoiler:the deaths of the surviving participants in the Khaturian massacre]].
10th Sep '16 3:56:41 AM Bissek
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* In ''Warriors of Ultramar'' itself, the huge amount of deaths caused by the Tyranid invasion is oddly understated, while the some 140, 150 Astartes who died remain to be the focus.

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* AMillionIsAStatistic: In ''Warriors of Ultramar'' itself, the huge amount of deaths caused by the Tyranid invasion is oddly understated, while the some 140, 150 Astartes who died remain to be the focus.
10th Sep '16 3:55:37 AM Bissek
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The ''Ultramarines'' series by Creator/GrahamMcNeill delineates the adventures of one member of the titular Ultramarines, Captain Uriel Ventris: ''Nightbringer''; ''Warriors of Ultramar''; and ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'' (in the omnibus ''Ultramarines''); ''The Killing Ground'', ''Courage And Honour'', and ''The Chapter's Due''.

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The ''Ultramarines'' series by Creator/GrahamMcNeill delineates the adventures of one member of the titular Ultramarines, Captain Uriel Ventris: ''Nightbringer''; ''Warriors of Ultramar''; and ''Dead Sky, Black Sun'' (in the omnibus ''Ultramarines''); ''The Killing Ground'', ''Courage And Honour'', and ''The Chapter's Due''.
Due'' (In the second ''Ultramarines'' omnibus).
31st Jul '16 2:56:06 PM nombretomado
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Should not be confused with the DCComics superhero team of the same name. Also should not be confused with the pigment, although the Ultramarines ''do'' wear [[ColourCodedArmies ultramarine-coloured armor]]. And Games Workshop has a paint color entitled Ultramarine Blue, which is ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin you guessed it]]) ultramarine, and intended to be used to paint Ultramarines.

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Should not be confused with the DCComics Creator/DCComics superhero team of the same name. Also should not be confused with the pigment, although the Ultramarines ''do'' wear [[ColourCodedArmies ultramarine-coloured armor]]. And Games Workshop has a paint color entitled Ultramarine Blue, which is ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin you guessed it]]) ultramarine, and intended to be used to paint Ultramarines.
28th Jun '16 6:55:43 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* WhatTheHellHero: In ''Courage and Honour", when Uriel tells the Tau trying to occupy Pavonis (the world he went to such effort to save back in ''Nightbringer'') that he will destroy the planet to keep it out of their hands if they don't call off their invasion:

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* WhatTheHellHero: In ''Courage and Honour", Honour'', when Uriel tells the Tau trying to occupy Pavonis (the world he went to such effort to save back in ''Nightbringer'') that he will destroy the planet to keep it out of their hands if they don't call off their invasion:invasion, they have this criticism for him.



-->"In a heartbeat" said Uriel, surprised to find he actually meant it.
20th Apr '16 7:11:37 AM outlander2012
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-->'''Taryn Honan''': Come Kasimir, surely there's no need to say such things? We are friends, after all? Aren't we?
--->Kasimir de Valtos''': Friends? No Taryn, we are not friends. You are just a pathetic piece of filth I stepped on on my route to immortality. And now it's time I discarded you.

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-->'''Taryn Honan''': -->'''[[spoiler:Taryn Honan]]''': Come Kasimir, surely there's no need to say such things? We are friends, after all? Aren't we?
--->Kasimir -->'''Kasimir de Valtos''': [[spoiler: Friends? No Taryn, we are not friends. You are just a pathetic piece of filth I stepped on on my route to immortality. And now it's time I discarded you.you]].
9th Apr '16 3:58:46 PM outlander2012
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** Kasimir de Valtos invokes this trope a lot with allies of his. Having bribed and manipulated [[spoiler: Taryn Honan and Solana Vergen into supporting his political bid to undermine Mykola Shonai's Governorship of Pavonis, when he no longer has need of them, he doesn't hesistate to dispose of them; Vergen is tortured to death by de Valtos as a form of cathartic release from his own pain, while Honan is handed over to "enjoy" the attentions of a Dark Eldar Haemonculus.

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** Kasimir de Valtos invokes this trope a lot with allies of his. Having bribed and manipulated [[spoiler: Taryn Honan and Solana Vergen into supporting his political bid to undermine Mykola Shonai's Governorship of Pavonis, when he no longer has need of them, he doesn't hesistate to dispose of them; Vergen is tortured to death by de Valtos as a form of cathartic release from his own pain, while Honan is handed over to "enjoy" the attentions of a Dark Eldar Haemonculus.Haemonculus]].



--->Kasimir de Valtos''': Friends? No Taryn, we are not friends. You are just a pathetic piece of filth I stepped on on my route to immortality. And now it's time I discarded you.]]

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--->Kasimir de Valtos''': Friends? No Taryn, we are not friends. You are just a pathetic piece of filth I stepped on on my route to immortality. And now it's time I discarded you.]]
26th Sep '15 3:05:13 AM outlander2012
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--> "[[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Petronius Nero]]. You tried to kill my captain. PreparetoDie."

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--> "[[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Petronius Nero]]. You tried to kill my captain. PreparetoDie.PrepareToDie."



* SourSupporter: Sergeant Learchus to an extent, particulalry as Uriel's plans start diverging more and more from the Codex Astartes.

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* SourSupporter: Sergeant Learchus to an extent, particulalry particularly as Uriel's plans start diverging more and more from the Codex Astartes.
26th Sep '15 3:00:47 AM outlander2012
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--> "[[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Petronius Nero]]. You tried to kill my captain. [[PreparetoDie]]."

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--> "[[MyNameIsInigoMontoya My name is Petronius Nero]]. You tried to kill my captain. [[PreparetoDie]].PreparetoDie."
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