History Literature / TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea

25th Jul '16 3:39:31 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: A subtle example: Captain Nemo knows the PowerTrio will attempt a GreatEscape because he desn't want to impose ThePromise on them to keep the ''Nautilus'' safe. So he only allows the PowerTrio to explore islands without any connection to civilization, and navigates on the surfaces of the seas that are either not frequented by ships or are actually affected by a natural event that could cause the death of the escapees (like a submarine eruption or the Maelstrom).
18th May '16 8:50:28 PM trixus
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* CanadaEh: Although the narration constantly reminds us that Ned Land is Canadian, he actually doesn't fit the modern stereotype in that he's loud, arrogant, and rather meatheaded (and whistles "''Yankee Doodle''"). It's entirely possible that he's a transplanted American who ended up living in Canada one way or another.

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* CanadaEh: Although the narration constantly reminds us that Ned Land is Canadian, he actually doesn't fit the modern stereotype in that he's loud, arrogant, and rather meatheaded (and whistles "''Yankee Doodle''"). It's entirely possible that he's a transplanted American who ended up living in Canada one way or another. Although for a Canadian harpoonist it fits, lumberjacks and fishermen aren't the shy ones even in Canada (even Yankee Doodle kind of make sense given how the culture between both countries were open even back then)
15th May '16 1:21:19 PM MobilisInmobile
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**Originally, the idea of Verne was to make Nemo a polish noble, exiled by the Russian Empire. But at that time Russia was an ally of France, so due to the censorship the editor (Hetzel) rejected the idea. Verne, aggravated by this decision, resorted to not mention Nemo origins.
11th Mar '16 9:55:00 AM Chabal2
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* AwesomeButImpractical: Discussed. When Nemo is telling Aronnax about his vast riches, extracting gold from seawater is mentioned, but it would cost so much as to turn little, if any, profit.
* BadAss: Pretty much everyone, considering the fact that they beat off a 50-foot ''giant squid'' armed only with axes and harpoons. Yes, that includes ''Arronax and Conseil.''

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* AwesomeButImpractical: Discussed. When Nemo is telling Aronnax about his vast riches, extracting gold from seawater is mentioned, but it would cost so much as to turn little, if any, profit.
profit. Especially when using advanced diving suits to get it from sunken wrecks is so much easier.
* BadAss: Pretty much everyone, considering the fact that they beat off a multiple 50-foot ''giant squid'' armed only with axes and harpoons. Yes, that includes ''Arronax and Conseil.''



* CanadaEh: Although the narration constantly reminds us that Ned Land is Canadian, he actually doesn't fit the stereotype in that he's loud, arrogant, and rather meatheaded (and whistles "''Yankee Doodle''"). It's entirely possible that he's a transplanted American who ended up living in Canada one way or another.

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* CanadaEh: Although the narration constantly reminds us that Ned Land is Canadian, he actually doesn't fit the modern stereotype in that he's loud, arrogant, and rather meatheaded (and whistles "''Yankee Doodle''"). It's entirely possible that he's a transplanted American who ended up living in Canada one way or another.



* CompletelyUnnecessaryTranslator: A variation occurs when [[TheProfessor Professor Aronnax]], [[BattleButler Conseil]] and [[IdiotHero Ned Land]] failing to understand the language used by their captors, try to talk to them in their respective native languages (French, German (Conseil is Dutch, but presumably uses German because Dutch is a very rare language outside of The Netherlands) and English, respectively). When their captors didnít react, Aronnax atttempted to speak Latin without success. In a second interview, the man that later presented himself as Captain Nemo told them:

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* CompletelyUnnecessaryTranslator: A variation occurs when [[TheProfessor Professor Aronnax]], [[BattleButler Conseil]] and [[IdiotHero Ned Land]] failing to understand the language used by their captors, try to talk to them in their respective native languages (French, German (Conseil is Dutch, but presumably uses German because Dutch is a very rare language outside of The Netherlands) and English, respectively). When their captors didnít react, Aronnax atttempted attempted to speak Latin without success. In a second interview, the man that later presented himself as Captain Nemo told them:



* CripplingOverspecialization: Conseil can rattle off any animal or plant's exact order, class, phylum, genus and species, but only once he's told their name, being unable to actually identify a single one.



* TheDividual: Arronax believes that Ned and Conseil together would have made a remarkable naturalist (the former can identify most of the sea creatures they see, the latter can classify them in seconds).



* FoodPorn: Arronax really enjoys the food served onboard.



* GiantSquid: The crew of ''Nautilus'' (and Ned Land) fight a giant squid that has wrapped itself around the submarine. It is the most recognisable point after Nemo and the ''Nautilus'' themselves and is a standard fixture in any adaptation.

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* GiantSquid: The crew of ''Nautilus'' (and Ned Land) fight half a dozen giant squid that has squid, one having wrapped itself around the submarine. It is the most recognisable point after Nemo and the ''Nautilus'' themselves and is a standard fixture in any adaptation.



* HandshakeRefusal: [[TheProfessor Professor Aronnax]] gets this treatment with Captain Nemo. Nemo doesn't distrust [[WideEyedIdealist Aronnax]], its' just to show how far Nemo has been subject to MaddenIntoMisanthropy:

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* HandshakeRefusal: [[TheProfessor Professor Aronnax]] gets this treatment with Captain Nemo. Nemo doesn't distrust [[WideEyedIdealist Aronnax]], its' it's just to show how far Nemo has been subject to MaddenIntoMisanthropy:



* InstantDeathBullet: Nemo's electric bullets kill anything in one hit except cephalopods, where it just goes right through.
* IOweYouMyLife: Ned Land saves Nemo from a shark early on, and later is saved in turn from a giant squid.
* IronicEcho: When the Nautilus is stranded, Nemo refers to it as an incident, not an accident. When [[spoiler:trapped beneath the ice in the South Pole]], Arronax asks again, only to be told this time it's an accident.
* IronicName: Conseil (Advice or counsel, in French) never gives advice, be he asked to or not.



* LightningCanDoAnything: The Nautilus runs entirely on electrical power, as do Nemo's guns, to Arronax's amazement. [[ScienceMarchesOn Modern readers, on the other hand...]]
* LongList: Arronax goes into long descriptions of the sealife he encounters.



-->''ĒI admit that the nationality of the two strangers is hard to determine. Neither English, French, nor German, that is quite certain. However, I am inclined to think that the commander and his companion were born in low latitudes. There is southern blood in them. But I cannot decide by their appearance whether they are Spaniards, [[InterchangeableAsianCultures Turks, Arabians, or Indians]]"''

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-->''ĒI admit that the nationality of the two strangers is hard to determine. Neither English, French, nor German, that is quite certain. However, I am inclined to think that the commander and his companion were born in low latitudes. There is southern blood in them. But I cannot decide by their appearance whether they are Spaniards, [[InterchangeableAsianCultures Turks, Arabians, or Indians]]"''Indians]]"'' [[note]]In ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'', it's revealed Nemo was Indian.[[/note]]



* MoralEventHorizon: InUniverse, the event that finally causes Arronax to agree that they need to bail is when they witness the Nautilus ramming an unidentified nation's ship. Nemo seems aware of it too, [[spoiler:seeing as he sets sail for the Maelstrom soon after.]]



* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Arronax is asked to treat a crewman with a massive head wound, but all he can do is confirm that he'll be dead in the hour.

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* NotSoStoic: Conseil gets it twice: when shocked by an electric ray, and when a native slingshot destroys an extremely rare seashell. Conseil shoots him.
* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Subverted: Arronax used to practice medecine and is asked to treat a crewman with a massive head wound, but all he can do is confirm that he'll be dead in the hour.two hours.



* PetTheDog: Nemo has several such moments, including sending assistance to Cretan rebels, saving the life and giving some pearls to a poor fisherman and [[spoiler:weeping over the memory of his dead wife.]] See AntiVillain.

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* PetTheDog: Nemo has several such moments, including sending assistance to Cretan rebels, saving the life and giving some pearls to a poor fisherman and [[spoiler:weeping over the memory of his dead wife.wife and children.]] See AntiVillain.



* PsychoElectricEel: Done with an electric ray that shocks Conseil out of his ThirdPersonPerson and Stoic demeanor. In revenge, he eats it for dinner (but as noted by the professor, solely out of vengeance, because it wasn't even that good).



* WhamLine: [[spoiler: "But by this point observing, studying, and classifying were out of the question."]]

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* WhamLine: WhamLine:
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[[spoiler: "But by this point observing, studying, and classifying were out of the question."]]"]]
** A lesser example is during the fight with the giant squid, when a crewman desperately calls for help in French, his native tongue.
29th Dec '15 3:32:07 PM corruptmalemenace
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* GreaterScopeVillain: TheEmpire that slaughtered Nemo's family, the hunting of whom is a large part of what drove Nemo to become the dangerous man he is. The prequel confirms them to be the British Empire, whom Verne's predominantly French audience would have largely thought of as a GreaterScopeVillain in much of RealLife, too.

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* GreaterScopeVillain: TheEmpire that slaughtered Nemo's family, the hunting of whom is a large part of what drove Nemo to become the dangerous man he is. [[Literature/TheMysteriousIsland The prequel sequel]] confirms them to be the British Empire, whom Verne's predominantly French audience would have largely thought of as a GreaterScopeVillain in much of RealLife, too.
29th Dec '15 3:26:44 PM corruptmalemenace
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* GreaterScopeVillain: TheEmpire that slaughtered Nemo's family, the hunting of whom is a large part of what drove Nemo to become the dangerous man he is. The prequel confirms them to be the British Empire, whom Verne's predominantly French audience would have largely thought of as a GreaterScopeVillain in much of RealLife, too.
27th Nov '15 12:05:19 AM nombretomado
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Fun fact that people sometimes forget: the title refers to the distance the ''Nautilus'' travels horizontally over the course of the book, not the depth it dives to. 20,000 leagues vertically would be impossible, being 80,000 kilometers[[note]]Verne used the metric league, which is 4 km[[/note]], or twice the circumference of the Earth. The [[BlindIdiotTranslation translation is partly to blame]]; a closer translation would be ''Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the ''''Seas',''''' which is sometimes used in more modern translations. A ''SaturdayNightLive'' sketch with guest host Kelsey Grammar as Nemo [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] this misconception.

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Fun fact that people sometimes forget: the title refers to the distance the ''Nautilus'' travels horizontally over the course of the book, not the depth it dives to. 20,000 leagues vertically would be impossible, being 80,000 kilometers[[note]]Verne used the metric league, which is 4 km[[/note]], or twice the circumference of the Earth. The [[BlindIdiotTranslation translation is partly to blame]]; a closer translation would be ''Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the ''''Seas',''''' which is sometimes used in more modern translations. A ''SaturdayNightLive'' ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' sketch with guest host Kelsey Grammar as Nemo [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] this misconception.
26th Aug '15 12:54:48 PM Specialist290
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The book is now out of copyright and can be obtained from Project Gutenberg [[http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2488 here]]. This translation, done by Verne scholar Frederick Paul Walter, is a modern, highly accurate translation of the book, free of the errors that many other editions of the book have. Alternatively, check out the most common edition [[http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/164 here]]. This translation, done by the Reverend Lewis Page Mercier, is widely considered to be the worst translation of the book; it is riddled with errors and censorship, as well as incorrect numbers (for example, the density of steel is given as .7 to .8 times that of water, while Verne really wrote 7.8 times that of water, which is the correct value). Sadly, it is also the most common translation - check your bookshelves for this version!

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The book is now out of copyright copyright, and the original French text can be obtained from Project Gutenberg [[http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5097 here]]. [[http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2488 here]]. This translation, English translation]], done by Verne scholar Frederick Paul Walter, is a modern, highly accurate translation of the book, free of the errors that many other editions of the book have. Alternatively, check out the most common edition [[http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/164 here]]. This translation, done by the Reverend Lewis Page Mercier, is widely considered to be the worst translation of the book; it is riddled with errors and censorship, as well as incorrect numbers (for example, the density of steel is given as .7 to .8 times that of water, while Verne really wrote 7.8 times that of water, which is the correct value). Sadly, it is also the most common translation - check your bookshelves for this version!
23rd Aug '15 8:28:16 PM nombretomado
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** At an early point in the book, the narration mentions a white whale named "MobyDick".

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** At an early point in the book, the narration mentions a white whale named "MobyDick"."Literature/MobyDick".



* ShownTheirWork: Holy crap, does Verne ever do this. The narrative reaches ''MobyDick'' levels of textbook-ness at times.

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* ShownTheirWork: Holy crap, does Verne ever do this. The narrative reaches ''MobyDick'' ''Literature/MobyDick'' levels of textbook-ness at times.
31st Jul '15 10:59:40 PM phoenix
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The novel has a sequel, ''TheMysteriousIsland'', which tells Nemo's BackStory.

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The novel has a sequel, ''TheMysteriousIsland'', ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'', which tells Nemo's BackStory.



** He had a beard before that as well, in the 1916 black and white silent adaptation (which merged it with the sequel, TheMysteriousIsland into one story, as if the events all took place simultaneously, though the sequel was supposed to be many years later), Nemo has a beard, as well as wearing {{Blackface}}.

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** He had a beard before that as well, in the 1916 black and white silent adaptation (which merged it with the sequel, TheMysteriousIsland ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'' into one story, as if the events all took place simultaneously, though the sequel was supposed to be many years later), Nemo has a beard, as well as wearing {{Blackface}}.



* SeriesContinuityError: Much of the information presented about Captain Nemo and his career in ''TheMysteriousIsland'' (at least the dates) doesn't make ''any sense at all'' when compared to the text of ''Twenty Thousand Leagues''.

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* SeriesContinuityError: Much of the information presented about Captain Nemo and his career in ''TheMysteriousIsland'' ''Literature/TheMysteriousIsland'' (at least the dates) doesn't make ''any sense at all'' when compared to the text of ''Twenty Thousand Leagues''.
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