History Literature / TheSongOfRoland

17th Apr '16 1:48:22 PM Silverblade2
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* {{Badass}}: Lots of it. [[InvincibleHero Roland]] is of course, the standout.
** BadassFamily: Charlemagne and Roland are related. Baligant, his brother, Canabeus, and his son, Malprimes, are the "[[DesignatedVillain evil]]" version of this.
** BadassGrandpa: Charlemagne and Baligant.
** BadassPreacher: Archbishop Turpin racks up more kills than any of the paladins.

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* {{Badass}}: Lots of it. [[InvincibleHero Roland]] is of course, the standout.
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BadassFamily: Charlemagne and Roland are related. Baligant, his brother, Canabeus, and his son, Malprimes, are the "[[DesignatedVillain evil]]" version of this.
** * BadassGrandpa: Charlemagne and Baligant.
** * BadassPreacher: Archbishop Turpin racks up more kills than any of the paladins.



* [[SelfDestructiveCharge Self-Destructive Charge]]: The entire Battle of Roncevaux is pretty much one big Self-Destructive Charge, but one of the most poignant individual examples is when Olivier is stabbed from behind through the chest with a spear and nevertheless charges into the enemy ranks with a fervour so intense that, blinded by his blood loss, he accidentally strikes his best friend Roland on the helm.
* [[ShutUpKirk Shut Up, Kirk]]: Baligant's reply to Charlemagne saying "Accept Christ, and your first friend I'll be!" is "Your sermon's ill-preached." and a blow with his scimitar.
* [[SwordSparks Sword Sparks]]: The duel between Thierry and Pinabel during Ganelon's trial.
* [[BetrayalTropes Traitor]]: Ganelon, who becomes, with [[KingArthur Mordred]] and [[{{Jesus}} Judas]], one of the great exemplars of treachery for the mediæval period.

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* [[SelfDestructiveCharge Self-Destructive Charge]]: SelfDestructiveCharge: The entire Battle of Roncevaux is pretty much one big Self-Destructive Charge, but one of the most poignant individual examples is when Olivier is stabbed from behind through the chest with a spear and nevertheless charges into the enemy ranks with a fervour so intense that, blinded by his blood loss, he accidentally strikes his best friend Roland on the helm.
* [[ShutUpKirk Shut Up, Kirk]]: ShutUpKirk: Baligant's reply to Charlemagne saying "Accept Christ, and your first friend I'll be!" is "Your sermon's ill-preached." and a blow with his scimitar.
* [[SwordSparks Sword Sparks]]: SwordSparks: The duel between Thierry and Pinabel during Ganelon's trial.
* [[BetrayalTropes Traitor]]: Ganelon, who becomes, with [[KingArthur Mordred]] and [[{{Jesus}} Judas]], one of the great exemplars of treachery for the mediæval period.
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* [[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Nephew Guy]]: Roland's mantra is "We'll fight well and then my uncle will love me!", even though his uncle already seems to.

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* [[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Nephew Guy]]: WellDoneSonGuy: Roland's mantra is "We'll fight well and then my uncle will love me!", even though his uncle already seems to.
31st Jan '16 6:37:29 PM drac0blade
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* HonorBeforeReason: Roland refuses Olivier's advice of calling Charlemagne and his army with his Olifant because he prefere to die than looking like a coward

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* HonorBeforeReason: Roland refuses Olivier's advice of calling Charlemagne and his army with his Olifant because he prefere to die than looking like a cowardcoward.
11th Jul '15 10:56:09 AM jayoungr
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''Nes poet guarder que mals ne l'i ateignet. [-AOI-].''\\

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''Nes poet guarder que mals ne l'i ateignet. [-AOI-].''\\
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It can be found online [[http://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/gallica/Chronologie/11siecle/Roland/rol_ch01.html here]].

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It can be found online [[http://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/gallica/Chronologie/11siecle/Roland/rol_ch01.html here]], and in an English translation [[http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/391 here]].



* TheLancer: As the famous line in stanza 87 goes, "Roland is brave and Olivier is wise; they are both marvellously courageous." Olivier is a pretty straight-up Lancer to Roland; his clear-headedness balances Roland's recklessness, and, as the second-best knight of France, the closest to a rival that the mighty Roland can have. In fact the phrase "Trade a Roland for an Oliver" comes from the fact when they first met, they tried to beat each other in a duel but came out a stalemate. There's even a little HoYay to round it out.

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* TheLancer: As the famous line in stanza 87 goes, "Roland is brave and Olivier is wise; they are both marvellously courageous." Olivier is a pretty straight-up Lancer to Roland; his clear-headedness balances Roland's recklessness, and, as the second-best knight of France, the closest to a rival that the mighty Roland can have. In fact fact, the phrase "Trade a Roland for an Oliver" comes from the fact when they first met, they tried to beat each other in a duel but came out a stalemate. There's even a little HoYay to round it out.



* PlotArmor: When Oliver has lost so much blood that he can't tell friend from foe, he strikes and Roland, cutting his helmet from top to nosepiece. Roland is not injured in any way.

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* PlotArmor: When Oliver has lost so much blood that he can't tell friend from foe, he strikes and Roland, cutting his helmet from top to nosepiece. Roland is not injured in any way.



* SatelliteLoveInterest: Aude. She's Olivier's sister and Roland's betrothed.. and that's it. She isn't even mentioned until Roland lies dying and then she promptly dies of grief after finding out that he died in battle. (Their relationship was later fleshed-out in a prequel, ''Girart de Vienne.'')

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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Aude. She's Olivier's sister and Roland's betrothed.. and that's it. She isn't even mentioned until Roland lies dying finally decides to blow his horn, and then she promptly dies of grief after finding out that he died in battle. (Their relationship was later fleshed-out in a prequel, ''Girart de Vienne.''))''



* [[SelfDestructiveCharge Self-Destructive Charge]]: The entire Battle of Roncevaux is pretty much one big Self-Destructive Charge, but one of the most poignant individual examples is when Olivier is stabbed through the chest with a spear and nevertheless charges into the enemy ranks with a fervour so intense that, blinded by his blood loss, he accidentally strikes his best friend Roland on the helm.

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* [[SelfDestructiveCharge Self-Destructive Charge]]: The entire Battle of Roncevaux is pretty much one big Self-Destructive Charge, but one of the most poignant individual examples is when Olivier is stabbed from behind through the chest with a spear and nevertheless charges into the enemy ranks with a fervour so intense that, blinded by his blood loss, he accidentally strikes his best friend Roland on the helm.
29th Jun '15 1:27:04 PM StrixObscuro
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** Some ValuesDissonance is at play here; while Roland is Charlemagne's nephew, he is also his subordinate, and thus has sworn to fight to his last breath for his emperor, and thus might very well lose his uncle's love (or at least the public expression thereof) if it looks like he's not giving his all.
* WhatTheHellHero: Early in the battle, Olivier begs Roland to blow the Olifant and summon Charlemagne's forces to their aid, but Roland refuses because it would make him look weak. Naturally, after the battle turns against them, Roland finally decides to blow the damn horn to call for aid, and Olivier angrily asks him what the hell he's thinking blowing it ''now'', as calling for aid in the middle of the battle will probably get them all demoted for incompetence. Turpin eventually steps in and argues that they're probably all doomed anyway, but at least blowing the horn will alert their allies to their fate.



* YourDaysAreNumbered: Fate is a constant motif in the Song of Roland. The narrator frequently informs readers that Roland's days are numbered, and the weird thing is, most of the characters seem to know it, too, although "fate" prevents them from doing anything about it.

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* WorthyOpponent: The narrator comments that Balligant would have been the perfect man if he'd only been Christian.
* YourDaysAreNumbered: Fate is a constant motif in the Song of Roland. The narrator frequently informs readers that Roland's days are numbered, and the weird thing is, most of the characters seem to know it, too, although "fate" prevents them from doing anything about it. it.
** In the Robert Harrison translation, Harrison argues that Roland's death is necessary in order to restore Charlemagne's willingness to finish off the Saracens; after all, at the start of the epic, he and his forces are so war-weary after seven years in Spain that he's prepared to let Marsile keep half of Spain in exchange for a promise that Marsile will convert to Christianity, rather than launch what looks like a costly campaign to take Saragossa.
7th May '15 8:42:38 AM fbiuzz
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* TheLancer: As the famous line in stanza 87 goes, "Roland is brave and Olivier is wise; they are both marvellously courageous." Olivier is a pretty straight-up Lancer to Roland; his clear-headedness balances Roland's recklessness, and, as the second-best knight of France, the closest to a rival that the mighty Roland can have. There's even a little HoYay to round it out.

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* TheLancer: As the famous line in stanza 87 goes, "Roland is brave and Olivier is wise; they are both marvellously courageous." Olivier is a pretty straight-up Lancer to Roland; his clear-headedness balances Roland's recklessness, and, as the second-best knight of France, the closest to a rival that the mighty Roland can have. In fact the phrase "Trade a Roland for an Oliver" comes from the fact when they first met, they tried to beat each other in a duel but came out a stalemate. There's even a little HoYay to round it out.
7th Sep '14 9:56:20 PM Gregzilla
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* TheHeroDies: Yup.

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* TheHeroDies: Yup.Roland.



* [[KillEmAll Kill 'Em All]]: Again, yup.

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* [[KillEmAll Kill 'Em All]]: Again, yup.KillEmAll: Both armies.
25th Aug '14 5:51:33 PM nanshe
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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: The muslims in ''Song of Roland'' worship the demon Apollyon.

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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: The muslims Muslims in ''Song of Roland'' worship the demon Apollyon.Apollyon and keep idols.
25th Aug '14 5:47:46 PM nanshe
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Proof that this trope is OlderThanPrint: Roland and Charlemagne were real people and there really was a Battle of Roncevaux Pass, but other than that...

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Proof that this trope is OlderThanPrint: Roland and Charlemagne were real people and there really was a Battle of Roncevaux Pass, but other than that...OlderThanPrint.
25th Aug '14 5:46:13 PM nanshe
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* TragicBromance: Roland and Olivier
25th Aug '14 5:38:37 PM nanshe
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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Aude. She's Olivier's sister and Roland's betrothed.. and that's it. She isn't even mentioned until Roland lies dying and then she promptly dies of grief after finding out that he died in battle. (Their relationship was later fleshed-out in a prequel, ''Girart de Vienne.'')
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