History Literature / TheNameOfTheRose

--> ''Salvatore'': "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIMsxTsofMs Penitenziagite! Watch out for the draco who cometh in futurum to gnaw your anima!]]"

* TheDungAges: This is how the monastery is portrayed in the movie... [[UpToEleven And how!!]]
* EatTheEvidence
** …Which in this case also qualifies as [[spoiler: [[CyanidePill suicide]]]].
* EurekaMoment: William has one considering the secret of the library. Adso remembers how Salvatore said "tertius equi", which is CanisLatinicus for "The third of horse" (when he meant "the third horse"). William concludes: "the first and the seventh of the four" really means [[spoiler:"the first and the seventh of the ''word'' four", and "four" is "quatuor" in Latin, so you have to push the letters Q and R!]]

* FoeYay: [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Adso in the book as he follows the last dialogue between [[spoiler: William and Jorge]]
* FriendOrIdolDecision: Adso at the end of the film.

* MeaningfulName: William of Baskerville. The name is a two-part ShoutOut to logician and monk William of Ockham and [[SherlockHolmes a certain fictional detective.]]
** Also, the blind monk Jorge of Burgos is a shoutout to the (blind) Creator/JorgeLuisBorges, an important literary influence for Eco

* MotiveRant: [[spoiler: Jorge]] gives one at the end.
** Less obvious in the movie, where the BigBad is more reactive and less prone to discussion. Kind of a pity, as that particular dialogue between him and William is one of the most intriguing of the book. In the film, most of it is held while the [[VillainTeleportation villain is eluding the heroes]] throughout the library.
* MythArc: With other Eco books

* PyrrhicVictory: [[spoiler: In the book the library burns, the book is destroyed and Bernardo gets away with the torture and unjust execution of three people. This proved to be too dark for the movie, in which, at least, Bernardo dies and the girl lives]].
** History buffs and bibliophiles familiar with the period [[strike:might consider]] will definitely consider [[spoiler:the burning of the library]] to be an outright DownerEnding.
*** Eco himself pointed out in the Apostilles to The Name of the Rose (essentially a director's track book) that having a library in that period and not [[spoiler:having it burn down]] would have been absolutely unrealistic.
* RapeIsLove
** Actually, the girl kind of jumps on Adso, but after the initial shock he seems quite willing -- and even enthusiastic. He's a young man who probably struggles even against the desire to masturbate. Few would have more self-control in that situation. William later says that in Adso's place "even a father in the desert would have damned himself".

* SadisticChoice: Gui insists William, a former victim, serve as a judge in [[TheSpanishInquisition The Inquisition]].
** In the book, William [[spoiler: is a former Inquisitor, who wants nothing more to do with it]].
*** In the movie too, William [[spoiler: is a former Inquisitor who refused to convict a witch and got marched out and judged by Gui]].

* WhamEpsiode: The third day. Adso [[spoiler:finally learns something about Fra Dolcino!]] Also he [[spoiler:gains "carnal knowledge" of some random young lady!]] And, by the way, [[spoiler:Berengar dies.]]

* CampGay: One of the victims

* WhamEpsiode: The third day. Adso [[spoiler: finally learns something about Fra Dolcino!]] Also he [[gains "carnal knowledge" of some random young lady!]] And, by the way, [[Berengar dies.]]

'''''The Name Of The Rose''''' is a novel written by UmbertoEco in 1980, which also received a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie adaptation]] in 1986, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud, and starring ChristianSlater, F. Murray Abraham, RonPerlman, Creator/MichaelLonsdale, and SeanConnery.

* AdaptationDecay / PragmaticAdaptation: The book is a detective mystery interwoven with 500 pages of incredible detail of the religious and political schism in the church that is nearly inscrutable to anyone without a post-graduate degree in Theology and 14th Century Political History. (Or, reasonably arguably, anyone but UmbertoEco.) The movie drops most of the Theology, History and Politics in favor of the detective story.

** …Which in this case also qualifies as [[spoiler: [[CyanidePill suicide]]]].

** History buffs and bibliophiles familiar with the period [[strike:might consider]] will definitely consider [[spoiler:the burning of the library]] to be an outright DownerEnding.

** Actually, the girl kind of jumps on Adso, but after the initial shock he seems quite willing -- and even enthusiastic. He's a young man who probably struggles even against the desire to masturbate. Few would have more self-control in that situation. William later says that in Adso's place "even a father in the desert would have damned himself".

* TheIshmael: The narrator is an older Adso.

It is set in what has been called the [[MedievalMorons disastrous]] [[TheLateMiddleAges fourteenth century]], during the period of the Medieval Inquisition. The story, described by some as SherlockHolmes [[RecycledINSPACE IN THE 14th CENTURY]], follows Brother William of Baskerville and his young friar apprentice, Adso of [[UsefulNotes/{{Austria}} Melk]], who go to an abbey where a murder was committed in order to [[DetectiveStory investigate it]].

* AdaptationDecay / PragmaticAdaptation: The book is a detective mystery interwoven with 500 pages of incredible detail of the religious and political schism in the church that is nearly inscrutable to anyone without a post-graduate degree in Theology and 14th Century Political History. (Or, reasonably arguably, anyone but UmbertoEco.) The movie drops most of the Theology, History and Politics in favor of the detective story.
* AManIsNotAVirgin: Adso gets to have one fling before recommitting to chastity; William, his mentor and supposed guardian, says something along the lines of, "Way to go, kid."
** Averted with William, who explicitly admits to Adso that, unlike him, he has never tried "that sort of experience."

* FriendOrIdolDecision: Adso at the end of the film.

** Also, the blind monk Jorge of Burgos is a shoutout to the (blind) JorgeLuisBorges, an important literary influence for Eco

* ObfuscatingDisability: RonPerlman's version of the deformed, mentally disabled hunchback Salvatore is smarter than he seems.

** Jorge, the blind librarian, is a clear reference to JorgeLuisBorges, the Argentinian author who went blind, served as the director of Argentina's National Library, wrote a story about a labyrinthine library, and is generally credited as a stylistic influence on Eco and probably hundreds of other genre-bending postmodernist authors.

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* DidNotDoTheResearch: One monk mentions pumpkins, which come from America and would be out of place in medieval Italy.
** It should be noted however that pretty much everything else is ridiculously accurate, case-in-point: Eco places his abbey in the mountains of northern Italy because the climate is suitable for slaughtering pigs and one of the monks has to be found dead in a bucket of pig's blood.
** Also: he's been ashamed for that error for thirty years, and the error isn't as big as it looks like: the family of plants is called the same, and has been cultivated in Europe for at least five thousand years, he just fiddled up in the exact species.

* InWhichATropeIsDescribed

* [=~Morton's Fork~=]: William has to choose between which books to save and getting out alive.

* [[SchrodingersCast Schrödinger's Cast]]: In the movie, one character survives while dying in the book, and another dies.

'''''The Name Of The Rose''''' is a novel written by UmbertoEco in 1980, which also received a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie adaptation]] in 1986, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud, and starring ChristianSlater, F. Murray Abraham, RonPerlman, Actor/MichaelLonsdale, and SeanConnery.

* EurekaMoment: William has one considering the secret of the library. Adso remembers how Salvatore said "tertius equi", which is CanisLatinicus for "The third of horse" (when he meant "the third horse"). William concludes: "the first and the seventh of the four" really means [[spoiler:"the first and the seventh of the ''word'' four", and "four" is "quattuor" in Latin, so you have to push the letters Q and O!]]
** They had a minor one earlier, when Adson dreamed a story similar to the "Coena Cypriani", a kind of [[Literature/TheBible Bible]] {{parody}}. Which helps William to remember that there was a book in the library consisting of four texts, one of them a comment for the Coena Cypriani, another one the book they're looking for.

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** Ubertino is not only a Cloud Cuckoo Lander in the book, he arguably tries to seduce Adso. In church.

* ZeroChops: Subverted: William and Jorge are both senescent intellectuals. They know absolutely nothing about fighting...[[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown but will do absolutely anything to win.]]

** They had a minor one earlier, when Adson dreamed a story similar to the "Coena Cypriani", a kind of {{Bible}} {{parody}}. Which helps William to remember that there was a book in the library consisting of four texts, one of them a comment for the Coena Cypriani, another one the book they're looking for.

'''''The Name Of The Rose''''' is a novel written by UmbertoEco in 1980, which also received a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie adaptation]] in 1986, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud, and starring ChristianSlater, F. Murray Abraham, RonPerlman, and SeanConnery.

* AdaptationDecay / PragmaticAdaptation: The book is a detective mystery interwoven with 500 pages of incredible detail of the religious and political schism in the church that is nearly inscrutable to anyone without a post-graduate degree in Theology and 14th Century Political History. (Or, reasonably arguably, anyone but UmbertoEco.) The movie drops the Theology, History and Politics in favor of the detective story.

* MadOracle: Ubertino is considered to be this in the film.

* RedHerring: [[spoiler: The connection between the various deaths and the seven trumpets of Revelation turns out to be a coincidence after all]].

* SparedByTheAdaptation

* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: William gives one to [[spoiler: Jorge]] at the end.

* ThemeSerialKiller: The killings follow symbolism from the Book of Revelations. [[spoiler:As it turns out, this is mostly by accident.]]

* PostModernism

* TortureAlwaysWorks: Averted. [[spoiler:William]] used to be an inquisitor, but avoided using torture. He explains that poeople under torture say not only what the inquisitor wants, but also what they imagine might please him. Later, when Bernard intorrogates the cellarer, the threat of torture is enogh for him to admit that he committed all the murders (which he didn't do).