History Literature / TheHuntForRedOctober

18th Feb '17 1:59:39 PM Gosicrystal
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* TheMutiny: {{Inverted}}, {{Lampshaded}}, and glibly noted to be [[NoExceptYes academic]]. An American officer calls it a mutiny, only to be told that "mutiny" is when the crew rises against officers. When the ''officers'' try to steal their ship, the correct term is "barratry". Doesn't mean that the Kremlin's not going to be furious someone stole their SuperPrototype boat.

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* TheMutiny: {{Inverted}}, {{Lampshaded}}, and glibly noted to be [[NoExceptYes [[YouKeepUsingThatWord academic]]. An American officer calls it a mutiny, only to be told that "mutiny" is when the crew rises against officers. When the ''officers'' try to steal their ship, the correct term is "barratry". Doesn't mean that the Kremlin's not going to be furious someone stole their SuperPrototype boat.
20th Dec '16 6:33:36 AM Bissek
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* DrinkingOnDuty: [[spoiler:Ramius' wife]] was killed by a surgeon who botched a routine appendectomy because he was drunk, and got away with it [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections because his father was a Central Committee member]].



* NoodleIncident: Nobody on the ''Red October'' knows how the tunnel drive got nicknamed "the caterpillar", but the name stuck.



** Ramius' father, Aleksandr, was a distinguished political commissar in the 40s. Marko was deeply ashamed to be the son of a true Stalinist hero

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** Ramius' father, Aleksandr, was a distinguished political commissar in the 40s. Marko was deeply ashamed to be the son of a true Stalinist herohero.
12th Dec '16 2:49:42 PM Bense
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* RupturedAppendix: Due to drunkenness while on duty, a surgeon botched removing an inflamed appendix from the wife of [[spoiler:Marko Ramius]], the organ bursting because the doctor took too long to try to sober up by breathing pure oxygen.[[note]]The wife's death at the hands of a doctor that [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections couldn't be punished because he was the son of a senior Party official]] is what drives [[spoiler:Captain Ramius]] to defect.[[/note]]

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* RupturedAppendix: Due to drunkenness while on duty, a surgeon botched removing an inflamed appendix from the wife of [[spoiler:Marko Ramius]], the organ bursting because the doctor took too long to try to sober up by breathing pure oxygen.[[note]]The She might have still survived, but the clinic was out of foreign antibiotics, so the ones used to treat her were Soviet made, and therefore probably just vials full of distilled water. [[note]]His wife's death at the hands of a doctor that [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections couldn't be punished because he was the son of a senior Party official]] is what drives [[spoiler:Captain Ramius]] to defect.[[/note]][[/note]]
12th Dec '16 2:44:41 PM Bense
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: A SleazyPolitician who had repeatedly butted heads with the CIA over his fishing for information [[HauledBeforeASenateSubcommittee during the committees he chaired.]] He eventually got [[TheMole a CIA-turned agent]] killed. The CIA began to investigate him and learned that he was leaking info to an aide who was a DoubleAgent. Said aide was arrested for espionage and treason, allowing the CIA to pressure him into retiring in order to prevent his name being tied to the scandal.
* HotSubOnSubAction: The primary focus of the naval scenes is the cat-and-mouse game played by NATO and Soviet submarines, with the climax involving actual combat between the ''Red October'' and the ''Konavalov'', with the ''Dallas'' being restricted from directly assisting by the rules of engagement limiting it to defensive fire only.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: A SleazyPolitician SleazyPolitician, Senator Donaldson, who had repeatedly butted heads with the CIA over his fishing for information [[HauledBeforeASenateSubcommittee during the committees he chaired.]] He eventually got [[TheMole a CIA-turned agent]] killed. The CIA began to investigate him after a leak got one of their agents killed, and learned that he was leaking info to an aide who was a DoubleAgent. Said aide was arrested for espionage and treason, allowing the CIA to pressure him Donaldson into retiring in order to prevent his name being tied to the scandal.
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* HotSubOnSubAction: The primary focus of the naval scenes is the cat-and-mouse game played by NATO and Soviet submarines, with the climax involving actual combat between the ''Red October'' and the ''Konavalov'', with the ''Dallas'' and ''Pogy'' being restricted from directly assisting by the rules of engagement limiting it them to defensive fire only.



** Inverted during the final showdown, the [[ThePoliticalOfficer political officer]] of the Soviet submarine ''Konovalov'' is worried about the American subs protecting ''Red October''. Captain Tupolev replies that he will ignore ''Dallas'' and ''Pogy'' and points out that if the Americans had authorization to shoot (which they only did if they were shot at first), one of them would have already sunk ''Konovalov''. Tupolev is still operating under his original mission orders and already has permission to shoot ''Red October'', but he cannot shoot at the Americans.
* InformedFlaw: Ivan Putin is characterized as an evil man with no conscience; he only appears in a single chapter of the book, during which he exhibits none of these tendencies. His biggest sin is simply being annoying and blathering on about how pretty Gorky is in the winter.

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** Inverted during the final showdown, the [[ThePoliticalOfficer political officer]] of the Soviet submarine ''Konovalov'' is worried about the American subs protecting ''Red October''. Captain Tupolev replies that he will ignore ''Dallas'' and ''Pogy'' and points out that if the Americans had authorization to shoot (which they only did if they were shot at first), one of them would have already sunk ''Konovalov''. Tupolev is still operating under his Tupolev's original mission orders and already has gave him permission to shoot ''Red October'', but he cannot shoot at while by their rules of engagement the Americans.
Americans must wait until they are fired upon.
* InformedFlaw: Ramius' inner monologue characterizes Ivan Putin is characterized as an evil man with no conscience; he only appears in a single the first chapter of the book, during which he exhibits none of these tendencies. His biggest sin is simply being annoying and blathering his worst faults seem to be he's a bad sailor who blathers on about how pretty Gorky is in the winter.



** Ramius' main motive was to punish the state for the fact that [[CrusadingWidower his wife had died]] in a botched operation directed by a surgeon who had got the job from [[UpperClassTwit Party Patronage]], compounded by faulty medicine that did nothing to improve Mrs. Ramius' health. Further, what he considers the greatest crime is the State's suppression of religion that robbed him of "the hope, even if it ''was'' a lie", of seeing his wife again.

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** Ramius' main motive was to punish the state for the fact that [[CrusadingWidower his wife had died]] in a botched operation directed by a surgeon who had got the job from [[UpperClassTwit Party Patronage]], compounded by faulty medicine antibiotics that did nothing to improve Mrs. Ramius' health. Further, what he considers the greatest crime is the State's suppression of religion that robbed him of "the hope, even if it ''was'' a lie", of seeing his wife again.



* KansasCityShuffle: The CIA's plan to fool the Soviet Navy is based on convincing them that their cover story (that Ramius was framed by a plant) is true by acting as if they too are baffled by the events and conducting massive inquiries.

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* KansasCityShuffle: The CIA's plan to fool the Soviet Navy is based on convincing them that their cover story (that story, that Ramius was framed by given false orders and the letter claiming he was going to defect was a plant) forgery, is true by acting as if they too are baffled by the events and are conducting massive inquiries.



** One of first actions taken by Ramius is to break Ivan Putin's neck and then set it up to look like he slipped on spilled tea and fell backwards into the corner of a table. This is largely done to fool Doctor Petrov and the enlisted men so that they would not discover the officers' plans.

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** One of first actions taken by Ramius is to break Ivan Putin's neck and then set it up to look like he slipped on spilled tea and fell backwards into the corner of a table. This is largely done to fool Doctor Petrov and the enlisted men so that they would not discover the officers' plans.allow Ramius to substitute his own set of orders.
12th Dec '16 2:31:48 PM Bense
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* CriticalStaffingShortage: The [[HotSubOnSubAction final act]] (at least in the book version) gives some additional difficulties to the people that remain on the titular missile sub because they're twenty people handing a ship designed to be run by a crew of roughly a hundred and twenty. An earlier sub-plot [[AdaptedOut excised from the movie version]] involved the running of an [[BreakOutTheMuseumPiece about-to-be-decommissioned]] American sub to the spot where the ''Red October'' was to be "sunk" and be destroyed in its stead, while also being only staffed by about a dozen officers who had to do multiple duties, like an engineer working as a cook when off-shift.

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* CriticalStaffingShortage: The CriticalStaffingShortage:
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[[HotSubOnSubAction final act]] (at least in the book version) gives some additional difficulties to the people that remain on the titular missile sub because they're there are only about twenty people handing a ship designed to be run by a crew of roughly a hundred and twenty. twenty. ''Red October'' is completely unable to shoot back because there's no one in the torpedo rooms and no one can be spared.
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An earlier sub-plot [[AdaptedOut excised from the movie version]] involved involves the running of an [[BreakOutTheMuseumPiece about-to-be-decommissioned]] American sub to the spot where the ''Red October'' was to be "sunk" and be destroyed in its stead, while also being only staffed by about a dozen officers who had to do multiple duties, like an engineer working as a cook when off-shift.



* DamageControl: The sub takes damage in a fight with another sub and has to be repaired.

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* DamageControl: The sub ''Red October'' takes damage in a fight with another sub and has to be repaired.
12th Dec '16 2:27:59 PM Bense
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* ChromosomeCasting

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* ChromosomeCastingChromosomeCasting: As both the Soviet and American navies were all-male services, there are next to no female characters in the book.
12th Dec '16 2:25:31 PM Bense
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* ChekhovsGunman: Loginov, the cook's assistant who witnessed Ramius taking the political officer's keys, [[spoiler:is the GRU sleeper agent]].

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* ChekhovsGunman: Loginov, The narrator notes that one of the cook's assistant who witnessed cooks is surprised when Ramius taking reads the political officer's keys, [[spoiler:is orders sending ''Red October'' to the GRU sleeper agent]].American coast. It's later revealed that he is TheMole.
12th Dec '16 2:14:52 PM Bense
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* ChekhovsGun: A minor one, but the ''Politovskiy'' gets mentioned as one of Ramius's only missteps, when a crash into a whale nearly sinks the ship, but Marco manages to save the ship and crew. Later on, the ''Politovskiy'', as one of the ships sent to pursue the ''Red October'', suffers a fatal reactor failure that kills the crew. Its death has one last part to play, when the only survivor, a cook, plays as an in-universe RedHerring to the Russians, believing that he was possibly a member of the crew of the October.

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* ChekhovsGun: ChekhovsGun:
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A minor one, but early on it's mentioned that Ramius has taken out the first of each class of sub for decades, and only had a minor incident on the first ''Alfa''. Later it's explained that the ''Politovskiy'' gets mentioned as one is the first of Ramius's only missteps, when a crash into the ''Alfa''s, and that during its first cruise it hit a whale nearly sinks at full speed but the ship, but Marco manages captain managed to save the ship and crew. Ramius was the captain of the ''Politovskiy'' when it hit the whale.
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Later on, the ''Politovskiy'', as one of the ships sent to pursue the ''Red October'', ''Politovskiy'' suffers a fatal reactor failure that kills the crew. Its death has one last part to play, play when the only survivor, a cook, plays as an in-universe is s RedHerring to the Russians, believing that because they think he was possibly may be a member of the crew of the October.''Red October''.
12th Dec '16 2:08:47 PM Bense
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* BurningTheShips: Ramius sends a letter to the [[ThePoliticalOfficer chief political officer]] of the Soviet Navy stating that he and his command staff are defecting. When his staff officers ask him why he did it, he says the knowledge that there is no way back will strengthen their motivation and commitment.

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* BurningTheShips: Ramius sends a letter to the [[ThePoliticalOfficer chief political officer]] of the Soviet Navy stating that he and his command staff are defecting. When his staff officers ask him why he did it, he says the knowledge In part this was so that there is would be no way going back will strengthen their motivation and commitment.for himself or any of his officers.
6th Nov '16 8:26:01 AM CumbersomeTercel
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The [[Film/TheHuntForRedOctober 1990 film adaptation]] stars Creator/SeanConnery, playing the Lithuanian captain Marko Ramius, and Alec Baldwin, playing Jack Ryan.

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The [[Film/TheHuntForRedOctober 1990 film adaptation]] stars Creator/SeanConnery, playing the Lithuanian captain Marko Ramius, and Alec Baldwin, Creator/AlecBaldwin, playing Jack Ryan.
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