History Literature / TheHighCrusade

3rd Dec '17 3:18:27 PM StFan
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!!The !!''The High Crusade'' provides examples of:



* BattleCouple: Sir Roger and Lady Catherine.
** Also RulingCouple

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* BattleCouple: Sir Roger and Lady Catherine.
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Catherine. Also RulingCouplea RulingCouple.



* CurbstompBattle: Aliens vs a Medieval army, it's a complete slaughter...for the aliens. Especially with the humans having superior numbers, and having no EMP-susceptible equipment and the aliens have '''no concept''' of hand-to-hand combat.

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* CurbstompBattle: Aliens vs vs. a Medieval army, it's a complete slaughter...slaughter... for the aliens. Especially with the humans having superior numbers, and having no EMP-susceptible equipment and the aliens have '''no concept''' of hand-to-hand combat.



* {{Disneyfication}}: A film version, produced by Creator/RolandEmmerich, was made in 1994. It takes the humorous-but-played-straight premise of the book and tries very hard to turn it into Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail ... InSpace! Sadly, this does not work particularly well.
* EasilyThwartedAlienInvasion: Despite he Wersgor having millennia of technological progress on the humans ''and'' the element of surprise, they get defeated by the natives with downright embarrassing ease--the humans even manage to steal their ship and conquer them right back!

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* {{Disneyfication}}: A film version, produced by Creator/RolandEmmerich, was made in 1994. It takes the humorous-but-played-straight premise of the book and tries very hard to turn it into Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail ...''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail''... InSpace! Sadly, this does not work particularly well.
* EasilyThwartedAlienInvasion: Despite he Wersgor having millennia of technological progress on the humans ''and'' the element of surprise, they get defeated by the natives with downright embarrassing ease--the ease -- the humans even manage to steal their ship and conquer them right back!



* ExactWords: Sir Roger is very good at bluffing while not actually, [[JediTruth precisely]] lying.
-->"Our lords have extensive foreign possessions, such as Ulster, Leinster, Normandy -- but I'll not weary you with a catalogue of planets." I alone noticed he had not actually said those counties and duchies ''were'' planets.

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* ExactWords: ExactWords:
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Sir Roger is very good at bluffing while not actually, [[JediTruth precisely]] lying.
-->"Our --->"Our lords have extensive foreign possessions, such as Ulster, Leinster, Normandy -- but I'll not weary you with a catalogue of planets." I alone noticed he had not actually said those counties and duchies ''were'' planets.



* GoodRepublicEvilEmpire Inverted -- the theoretical freedom of the Wersgor 'democracy' is unfavorably contrasted with the securities of the feudal system.
** Also played with, in that the Wersgor republic is also unfavorably contrasted with the ''Jair'' Republic (one of the lesser starfaring powers Sir Roger convinces to join his crusade against the Wersgor), with the Jair republic being described as a true republic, "not a sham one such as the Wersgor had", and the descriptions of the Wersgor explicitly describing their state as all-powerful and the citizens as reflexively subservient to it and to their superiors.
*** The Wersgor are criticized for being too dependent on their VastBureaucracy and habitually subservient, [[AuthorAppeal similar criticisms]] to those levied against modern Western states by many conservatives.

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* GoodRepublicEvilEmpire Inverted -- the theoretical freedom of the Wersgor 'democracy' "democracy" is unfavorably contrasted with the securities of the feudal system.
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system. Also played with, in that the Wersgor republic is also unfavorably contrasted with the ''Jair'' Republic (one of the lesser starfaring powers Sir Roger convinces to join his crusade against the Wersgor), with the Jair republic being described as a true republic, "not a sham one such as the Wersgor had", and the descriptions of the Wersgor explicitly describing their state as all-powerful and the citizens as reflexively subservient to it and to their superiors.
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superiors. The Wersgor are criticized for being too dependent on their VastBureaucracy and habitually subservient, [[AuthorAppeal similar criticisms]] to those levied against modern Western states by many conservatives.



* NoIndoorVoice (Part of how Sir Roger outsmarts the first set of aliens he encounters. [[spoiler: Their species does not have as sensitive hearing as the humans and therefore both does not realize that the humans are whispering to each other, but also don't realize that their own whispered planning is clearly audible]].)
* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: The Wersgor. The humans on the other hand are very pious. While there is some tongue in cheek humor about Medieval practices and obsessions, their faith is definitely not portrayed as a ''bad'' thing, and the most humane character in the book by far is the narrator - who is a pious monk.

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* NoIndoorVoice (Part NoIndoorVoice: Part of how Sir Roger outsmarts the first set of aliens he encounters. [[spoiler: Their [[spoiler:Their species does not have as sensitive hearing as the humans and therefore both does not realize that the humans are whispering to each other, but also don't realize that their own whispered planning is clearly audible]].)
audible]].
* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: The Wersgor. The humans on the other hand are very pious. While there is some tongue in cheek tongue-in-cheek humor about Medieval practices and obsessions, their faith is definitely not portrayed as a ''bad'' thing, and the most humane character in the book by far is the narrator - -- who is a pious monk.



* RealityEnsues: Ironically inflicted on the invading Wersgor. As it turns out, expecting to win just by virtue of having advanced weapons is a fool's errand when you're incapable of ''defending onesself.''

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* RealityEnsues: Ironically inflicted on the invading Wersgor. As it turns out, expecting to win just by virtue of having advanced weapons is a fool's errand when you're incapable of ''defending onesself.oneself.''



* RockBeatsLaser: Not to mention rock helps laser. A trebuchet firing nuclear shells? Undetectable by space age sensors? Yes please.
** Wait... why isn't the trebuchet and anyone working it nuked themselves? Also a trebuchet would be in visible range and nuclear shells launched by a trebuchet but not something more... advanced?
*** At least once the people using the trebuchet ''are'' caught in the blast and killed. It worked on the base because the aliens were looking for an incoming missile with Radar, and didn't see the lobbed trebuchet shot coming out of a patch of forest until it was already within exploding radius. They were ready for an incoming missile, and ready for humans trying to smuggle a bomb in on foot. They were completely unprepared for humans to carry the bomb on foot, then lob it the last thousand yards.

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* RockBeatsLaser: Not to mention rock helps laser. A trebuchet firing nuclear shells? Undetectable by space age sensors? Yes please.
** Wait... why isn't the trebuchet and anyone working it nuked themselves? Also a trebuchet would be in visible range and nuclear shells launched by a trebuchet but not something more... advanced?
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please. At least once the people using the trebuchet ''are'' caught in the blast and killed. It worked on the base because the aliens were looking for an incoming missile with Radar, and didn't see the lobbed trebuchet shot coming out of a patch of forest until it was already within exploding radius. They were ready for an incoming missile, and ready for humans trying to smuggle a bomb in on foot. They were completely unprepared for humans to carry the bomb on foot, then lob it the last thousand yards.



30th Nov '17 8:42:44 PM Willbyr
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30th Oct '16 3:25:32 PM dlchen145
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* {{Badass}}: Oh so many! Sir Roger, his chief man-art-arms Red John Hameward, Lady Catherine, heck even Brother Parvus and the captive Wersgor officer get their moments.
13th May '16 8:05:56 PM Theriocephalus
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* FramingDevice: ''twice''. The story is framed as a chronicle written by a monk, framed in turn as a translation by a group encountering the descendants of the subjects of the story.
* GalacticConqueror: Sir Roger
* GoodRepublicEvilEmpire Inverted - the theoretical freedom of the Wersgor 'democracy' is unfavorably contrasted with the securities of the feudal system.
** Also played with, in that the Wersgor republic is also unfavorably contrasted with the ''Jair'' Republic (one of the lesser starfaring powers Sir Roger convinces to join his crusade against the Wersgor), with the Jair republic described as a true republic, "not a sham one such as the Wersgor had", and the descriptions of the Wersgor explicitly describing their state as all-powerful and the citizens as reflexively subservient to it and to their superiors.
*** The Wersgor are criticized for being too dependent on their VastBureaucracy and habitually subservient; [[AuthorAppeal similar criticisms]] to those levied against modern Western states by many conservatives.

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* FramingDevice: ''twice''.''Twice''. The story is framed as a chronicle written by a monk, framed in turn as a translation by a group encountering the descendants of the subjects of the story.
* GalacticConqueror: Sir Roger
Roger, who manages to take over a huge galactic empire despite having been born a Medieval human knight.
* GoodRepublicEvilEmpire Inverted - -- the theoretical freedom of the Wersgor 'democracy' is unfavorably contrasted with the securities of the feudal system.
** Also played with, in that the Wersgor republic is also unfavorably contrasted with the ''Jair'' Republic (one of the lesser starfaring powers Sir Roger convinces to join his crusade against the Wersgor), with the Jair republic being described as a true republic, "not a sham one such as the Wersgor had", and the descriptions of the Wersgor explicitly describing their state as all-powerful and the citizens as reflexively subservient to it and to their superiors.
*** The Wersgor are criticized for being too dependent on their VastBureaucracy and habitually subservient; subservient, [[AuthorAppeal similar criticisms]] to those levied against modern Western states by many conservatives.



* MedievalMorons: Subverted - and how!

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* MedievalMorons: Subverted - -- and how!how! The morons end up conquering a spacefaring empire.



* RisingEmpire: Good honest Englishmen.
** VestigialEmpire: Wersgor.

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* RisingEmpire: Good One funded by good honest Englishmen.
** VestigialEmpire: Wersgor.
Englishmen by dint of skillful politics, force of personality, and lying where it's needed.


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* VestigialEmpire: The Wersgor empire.
13th May '16 8:00:26 PM Theriocephalus
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England 1345, and Sir Roger de Tourneville has volunteered to help King Edward III in his war against the French. The English army, fully prepped on the eve of leaving, crushes a small alien invasion force, by dint of cunning, superior numbers, and having no EMP-susceptible equipment or depletable bullets/explosives/laser charges - [[RockBeatsLaser but plenty of reusable arrows, swords, sheer brute strength and a sense of righteous Christian indignation.]]

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England 1345, and Sir Roger de Tourneville has volunteered to help King Edward III in his war against the French. The English army, fully prepped on the eve of leaving, crushes a small alien invasion force, by dint of cunning, superior numbers, and having no EMP-susceptible equipment or depletable bullets/explosives/laser charges - -- [[RockBeatsLaser but plenty of reusable arrows, swords, sheer brute strength and a sense of righteous Christian indignation.]]



* BattleCouple: Sir Roger and Lady Catherine

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* BattleCouple: Sir Roger and Lady CatherineCatherine.



* EasilyThwartedAlienInvasion: See EpicFail

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* EasilyThwartedAlienInvasion: See EpicFailDespite he Wersgor having millennia of technological progress on the humans ''and'' the element of surprise, they get defeated by the natives with downright embarrassing ease--the humans even manage to steal their ship and conquer them right back!
1st Apr '16 2:35:05 AM StFan
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A humorous ScienceFiction novel by Creator/PoulAnderson. First published in 1960.

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A ''The High Crusade'' is a humorous ScienceFiction novel by Creator/PoulAnderson. First published in 1960.



Using the captured spaceship and the grudging assistance of a surviving alien interpreter (taught Latin by a local cleric), they launch a counter-invasion of the evil intergalactic empire, whom they view as the more prolific, Heaven-soiling brethren of the infidels overrunning the Holy Land. Because the invaders to our world have been dominant for so long over such a wide area, nobody up in the stars has any damn idea what politics are any more. Sir Roger, a man who's managed to survive medieval European politics quite well for some time, knows ''exactly'' what politics are, and manages to convince every single alien he meets, through bravado, underhandedness, trickery, and good old-fashioned lying, to assail their opponents. The only downside to their situation is that unfortunately the humans - not being astrogators, among other reasons - have no idea where Earth is any more.

[[spoiler:Centuries later, when "future" Earth finally reaches the stars, they are met by the emissary of the trans-galactic feudal Christian empire, run by Human descendants of the would-have-been Crusaders. The Earth explorer is questioned as to whether the Holy Land has been liberated from the pagans. As a loyal citizen of the Israeli Empire the Earth explorer can only reply with a "Well, sort of".]]

!!This work provides examples of:


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Using the captured spaceship and the grudging assistance of a surviving alien interpreter (taught Latin by a local cleric), they launch a counter-invasion of the evil intergalactic empire, whom they view as the more prolific, Heaven-soiling brethren of the infidels overrunning the Holy Land. Because the invaders to our world have been dominant for so long over such a wide area, nobody up in the stars has any damn idea what politics are any more. Sir Roger, a man who's managed to survive medieval European politics quite well for some time, knows ''exactly'' what politics are, and manages to convince every single alien he meets, through bravado, underhandedness, trickery, and good old-fashioned lying, to assail their opponents. The only downside to their situation is that unfortunately the humans - -- not being astrogators, among other reasons - -- have no idea where Earth is any more.

[[spoiler:Centuries later, when "future" Earth finally reaches the stars, they are met by the emissary of the trans-galactic feudal Christian empire, run by Human descendants of the would-have-been Crusaders. The Earth explorer is questioned as to whether the Holy Land has been liberated from the pagans. As a loyal citizen of the Israeli Empire the Earth explorer can only reply with a "Well, sort of".]]

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20th Jan '16 10:00:32 PM Carnildo
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* FramingDevice

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* FramingDeviceFramingDevice: ''twice''. The story is framed as a chronicle written by a monk, framed in turn as a translation by a group encountering the descendants of the subjects of the story.
26th Oct '15 8:23:03 PM msq
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* DemocracyIsBad: Subverted in that while the Wersgor notion of "democracy" is shown as a sham, the Jair republic proves itself to be a far better example of one.
26th Oct '15 8:20:44 PM msq
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* RealityEnsues: Ironically inflicted on the invading Wersgor. As it turns out, expecting to win just by virtue of having advanced weapons is a fool's errand when you're incapable of ''defending onesself.''
8th Apr '15 5:25:01 PM plcthecd
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* CurbstompBattle: Aliens vs a Medieval army, it's a complete slaughter...for the aliens. Especially with the humans having superior numbers, and having no EMP-susceptible equipment and the aliens have '''no concept''' of hand-to-hand combat.
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