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* MaleSunFemaleMoon: Many English translations of the fairy tale have depicted the twins Sun as male and Moon as female.
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* MaleSunFemaleMoon: Many English translations of the fairy tale have depicted the twins Sun and Moon as male and Moon as female.female, respectively.
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* ParentalAbandonment: Talia's father just leaves her in the castle after she goes to sleep.
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* ParentalAbandonment: Talia's father just leaves her in the castle palace after she goes to sleep.
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Some time after, another king was hunting. His falcon flew into a window of the empty castle and did not return. The king, trying to find the falcon, wandered in the castle. There he found Talia as if asleep, but nothing would rouse her. Falling in love with her beauty, one would think he kissed her at this point, but rather, he raped her. Then he left and forgot the whole affair. Nine months later Talia gave birth to two children, [[DudeShesLikeInAComa all the time still in a magical coma]]. They nursed from her breast. Once when one of the babies wanted to suck, it could not find the breast, but got into its mouth instead the finger that had been pricked. This the baby sucked so hard that it drew out the splinter, and Talia was roused as if from deep sleep to find that she'd been raped and was now a mother of two (one can imagine she had a lot of questions at this point).
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Some time after, another king was hunting. His falcon flew into a window of the empty castle palace and did not return. The king, trying to find the falcon, wandered in the castle.palace. There he found Talia as if asleep, but nothing would rouse her. Falling in love with her beauty, one would think he kissed her at this point, but rather, he raped her. Then he left and forgot the whole affair. Nine months later Talia gave birth to two children, [[DudeShesLikeInAComa all the time still in a magical coma]]. They nursed from her breast. Once when one of the babies wanted to suck, it could not find the breast, but got into its mouth instead the finger that had been pricked. This the baby sucked so hard that it drew out the splinter, and Talia was roused as if from deep sleep to find that she'd been raped and was now a mother of two (one can imagine she had a lot of questions at this point).
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* AdaptationalConsent: Understandably most subsequent adaptations of this story, including ''Sleeping Beauty'', omit the entire part about the rape.
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* AdaptationalConsent: Understandably most subsequent adaptations of this story, including ''Sleeping Beauty'', omit the entire part about the rape. "Sun, Moon and Talia" itself is also something of an example: in ''Perceforest'', Troylus also doesn't have princess Zellandine consent when he impegnates her during her enchanced sleep, but at least they were in love and engaged beforehand.
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For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". The first part of the story is itself adapted from the story of Troylus and Zellandine from the courtly romance ''Perceforest''. Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
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For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". The first part of the story tale is itself adapted from the story of Troylus and Zellandine from the courtly romance ''Perceforest''. Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
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For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
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For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". The first part of the story is itself adapted from the story of Troylus and Zellandine from the courtly romance ''Perceforest''. Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
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One day the king remembered his adventure and went to see Talia again, presumably to rape her again. He found her awake, and confessing he was the father of her children, they went off to have a weekend long sex marathon in the hay, even though she didn't know his ass from Adam. Then he promised to bring her and the rugrats to his castle, but was careful to keep them hidden from his wife. (Oh, did we forget to mention ''he was already married?'' What a charmer.) The king's wife found out his secret, and on the sly sent for the two children in the king's name. She ordered them cooked and served to her husband. The cook hid the children in his own home and prepared some goat kids instead, which the queen served to the king. A while later the queen sent for Talia and planned to have her thrown into the fire because she was the reason for the king's infidelity. At the last minute the king arrived, had his wife thrown into the fire, married Talia, and was happy to find his children, whom the cook had saved.
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One day the king remembered his adventure and went to see Talia again, presumably to rape her again. He found her awake, and confessing he was the father of her children, they went off to have a weekend long sex marathon in the hay, even though she didn't know his ass from Adam. Then he promised to bring her and the rugrats to his castle, kingdom, but was careful to keep them hidden from his wife. (Oh, did we forget to mention ''he was already married?'' What a charmer.) The king's wife found out his secret, and on the sly sent for the two children in the king's name. She ordered them cooked and served to her husband. The cook hid the children in his own home and prepared some goat kids instead, which the queen served to the king. A while later the queen sent for Talia and planned to have her thrown into the fire because she was the reason for the king's infidelity. At the last minute the king arrived, had his wife thrown into the fire, married Talia, and was happy to find his children, whom the cook had saved.
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One day the king remembered his adventure and went to see Talia again, presumably to rape her again. He found her awake, and confessing he was the father of her children, they went off to have a weekend long sex marathon in the hay, even though she didn't know his ass from Adam. Then he brought her and the rugrats to his castle, but was careful to keep them hidden from his wife. (Oh, did we forget to mention ''he was already married?'' What a charmer.) The king's wife found out his secret, and on the sly sent for the two children in the king's name. She ordered them cooked and served to her husband. The cook hid the children in his own home and prepared some goat kids instead, which the queen served to the king. A while later the queen sent for Talia and planned to have her thrown into the fire because she was the reason for the king's infidelity. At the last minute the king arrived, had his wife thrown into the fire, married Talia, and was happy to find his children, whom the cook had saved.
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One day the king remembered his adventure and went to see Talia again, presumably to rape her again. He found her awake, and confessing he was the father of her children, they went off to have a weekend long sex marathon in the hay, even though she didn't know his ass from Adam. Then he brought promised to bring her and the rugrats to his castle, but was careful to keep them hidden from his wife. (Oh, did we forget to mention ''he was already married?'' What a charmer.) The king's wife found out his secret, and on the sly sent for the two children in the king's name. She ordered them cooked and served to her husband. The cook hid the children in his own home and prepared some goat kids instead, which the queen served to the king. A while later the queen sent for Talia and planned to have her thrown into the fire because she was the reason for the king's infidelity. At the last minute the king arrived, had his wife thrown into the fire, married Talia, and was happy to find his children, whom the cook had saved.
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On the birth of his daughter Talia, a king asked all the wise men and seers to tell her future. They concluded that she would be exposed to great danger from a splinter of flax. To prevent any such accident, the king ordered that no flax or hemp should ever come into his castle. But one day when Talia had grown up, she saw an old woman who was spinning pass by her window. Talia--who had never seen anything like it before--"was therefore delighted with the dancing of the spindle." Made curious, she took the distaff in her hand and began to draw out the thread. A splinter of hemp "got under her fingernail and she immediately fell dead upon the ground." The king left his [[NotQuiteDead lifeless]] daughter seated on a velvet chair in one of his his country estates, locked the door, and departed forever, to obliterate the memory of his sorrow.
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On the birth of his daughter Talia, a king asked all the wise men and seers to tell her future. They concluded that she would be exposed to great danger from a splinter of flax. To prevent any such accident, the king ordered that no flax or hemp should ever come into his castle. But one day when Talia had grown up, she saw an old woman who was spinning pass by her window. Talia--who had never seen anything like it before--"was therefore delighted with the dancing of the spindle." Made curious, she took the distaff in her hand and began to draw out the thread. A splinter of hemp "got under her fingernail and she immediately fell dead upon the ground." The king left his [[NotQuiteDead lifeless]] daughter seated on a velvet chair in one of his his country estates, locked the door, and departed forever, to obliterate the memory of his sorrow.
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile and posthumously published in the last volume of his (published by his sister in 1634-36) work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile and posthumously published collected in the last volume of his (published work, the ''Pentamerone'', posthumously published by his sister in 1634-36) work, the ''Pentamerone''.1634-36. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile and published in the last volume of his (posthumously published by his sister in 1634-36 ) work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile and posthumously published in the last volume of his (posthumously published (published by his sister in 1634-36 ) 1634-36) work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in the last volume of his (posthumously published by his sister in 1634-36 ) work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile and published in the last volume of his (posthumously published by his sister in 1634-36 ) work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in the last volume of his (posthumously published by his sister) 1634-36 work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in the last volume of his (posthumously published by his sister) sister in 1634-36 ) work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in the last volume of his 1634-36 work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in the last volume of his (posthumously published by his sister) 1634-36 work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in his 1634 work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in the last volume of his 1634 1634-36 work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'' (from 1636), is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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''Sun, Moon, and Talia'', also known more formally as ''Il Pentamerone, Day 5, Tale 5'' (from 1636), 5'', is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile in his 1634 work, the ''Pentamerone''. It is the tale which is thought to have influenced [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault's]] "Literature/SleepingBeauty".
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On the birth of his daughter Talia, a king asked all the wise men and seers to tell her future. They concluded that she would be exposed to great danger from a splinter of flax. To prevent any such accident, the king ordered that no flax or hemp should ever come into his castle. But one day when Talia had grown up, she saw an old woman who was spinning pass by her window. Talia--who had never seen anything like it before--"was therefore delighted with the dancing of the spindle." Made curious, she took the distaff in her hand and began to draw out the thread. A splinter of hemp "got under her fingernail and she immediately fell dead upon the ground." The king left his [[NotQuiteDead lifeless]] daughter seated on a velvet chair in the palace, locked the door, and departed forever, to obliterate the memory of his sorrow.
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On the birth of his daughter Talia, a king asked all the wise men and seers to tell her future. They concluded that she would be exposed to great danger from a splinter of flax. To prevent any such accident, the king ordered that no flax or hemp should ever come into his castle. But one day when Talia had grown up, she saw an old woman who was spinning pass by her window. Talia--who had never seen anything like it before--"was therefore delighted with the dancing of the spindle." Made curious, she took the distaff in her hand and began to draw out the thread. A splinter of hemp "got under her fingernail and she immediately fell dead upon the ground." The king left his [[NotQuiteDead lifeless]] daughter seated on a velvet chair in the palace, one of his his country estates, locked the door, and departed forever, to obliterate the memory of his sorrow.
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* UnrelatedInTheAdaptation: Some versions like [[[[https://web.archive.org/web/20191229040645/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/pentamerone/29sunmoontalia1911.html this one]] omit the rape and turn Sun and Moon into two beggar kids who find Talia while she is asleep.
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* UnrelatedInTheAdaptation: Some versions like [[[[https://web.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20191229040645/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/pentamerone/29sunmoontalia1911.html this one]] omit the rape and turn Sun and Moon into two beggar kids who find Talia while she is asleep.
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In the first translation linked here, there is no rape and the kids just wander from somewhere
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An unexpurgated translation can be read [[https://web.archive.org/web/20191229040645/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/pentamerone/29sunmoontalia1911.html here]], and [[http://web.archive.org/web/20110607231806/http://www.public.iastate.edu/~lhagge/sun,moon.htm here]].
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An unexpurgated translation can be read [[https://web.archive.org/web/20191229040645/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/pentamerone/29sunmoontalia1911.html here]], and [[http://web.archive.org/web/20110607231806/http://www.public.iastate.edu/~lhagge/sun,moon.htm here]].
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* UnrelatedInTheAdaptation: Some versions like [[[[https://web.archive.org/web/20191229040645/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/pentamerone/29sunmoontalia1911.html this one]] omit the rape and turn Sun and Moon into two beggar kids who find Talia while she is asleep.
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%%* MoralDissonance
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[[caption-width-right:350:The princess, the old woman and the splinter of flax. Illustration by Gustave Doré]]
[[caption-width-right:350:The princess, the old woman and the splinter of flax. Illustration by Gustave Doré]]
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An unexpurgated translation can be read [[http://web.archive.org/web/20110607231806/http://www.public.iastate.edu/~lhagge/sun,moon.htm here]]. For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
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An unexpurgated translation can be read [[https://web.archive.org/web/20191229040645/http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/pentamerone/29sunmoontalia1911.html here]], and [[http://web.archive.org/web/20110607231806/http://www.public.iastate.edu/~lhagge/sun,moon.htm here]]. here]].
For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
For what this tale mutated into, see "Literature/SleepingBeauty". Also compare to "Literature/TheBrownBearOfTheGreenGlen".
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* MaleSunFemaleMoon: Many English translations of the fairy tale have depicted the twins Sun as male and Moon as female.
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** Later versions have Talia (a.k.a. Sleeping Beauty, Briar Rose, or Aurora) be kissed in her sleep, rather than impregnated.
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* PrincessProtagonist: The story focuses on Princess Talia, who falls into a death-like state after an encounter with a spinning wheel. In this story, she is raped by a king and bears him to children while still asleep, before eventually waking up and marrying him.
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