History Literature / Salammbo

19th Mar '18 5:24:43 PM nombretomado
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Whereas ''Madame Bovary'' charted the agonisingly mediocre tragedy of a bored housewife and her hapless husband in early 19th-century France, Salammbo is a richly exotic war epic set in ancient Carthage. The scale is vast, the imagery opulent and intense, and the battle scenes brutal enough to make [[ThreeHundred Leonidas and his boys]] look like... well... [[HistoricalInJoke a bunch of fairies.]]

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Whereas ''Madame Bovary'' charted the agonisingly mediocre tragedy of a bored housewife and her hapless husband in early 19th-century France, Salammbo is a richly exotic war epic set in ancient Carthage. The scale is vast, the imagery opulent and intense, and the battle scenes brutal enough to make [[ThreeHundred [[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas and his boys]] look like... well... [[HistoricalInJoke a bunch of fairies.]]
18th Jan '18 6:03:25 AM SorPepita
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** InfantImmortality: Aha, aha, no.
* Improvised Weapon: Narr'Havas [[ImpaledPalm nails Matho's hand to a feasting bench]] with a javelin in the first chapter. Matho [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower throws the bench back at him.]]

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** InfantImmortality: Aha, aha, aha... no.
* Improvised Weapon: ImprovisedWeapon: Narr'Havas [[ImpaledPalm nails Matho's hand to a feasting bench]] with a javelin in the first chapter. Matho [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower throws the bench back at him.]]
18th Jan '18 5:59:06 AM SorPepita
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Whereas ''Madame Bovary'' charted the agonisingly mediocre tragedy of a bored housewife and her hapless husband in early 19th-century France, Salammbo is a richly exotic war epic set in ancient Carthage. The scale is vast, the imagery opulent and intense, and the battle scenes brutal enough to make [[ThreeHundred Leonidas and his boys]] look like...well...[[HistoricalInJoke a bunch of fairies.]]

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Whereas ''Madame Bovary'' charted the agonisingly mediocre tragedy of a bored housewife and her hapless husband in early 19th-century France, Salammbo is a richly exotic war epic set in ancient Carthage. The scale is vast, the imagery opulent and intense, and the battle scenes brutal enough to make [[ThreeHundred Leonidas and his boys]] look like...well... well... [[HistoricalInJoke a bunch of fairies.]]



* CrapsaccharineWorld: Carthage is a grand city, filled with beautiful public buildings, magnificent temples and gorgeous artefacts, all described in loving detail...and the site of a hideous all-out war with unbelievable cruelty on both sides.

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* CrapsaccharineWorld: Carthage is a grand city, filled with beautiful public buildings, magnificent temples and gorgeous artefacts, all described in loving detail... and the site of a hideous all-out war with unbelievable cruelty on both sides.
18th Apr '16 12:54:38 PM Mnemonik2
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* WarElephants: The Carthaginian army's [[BiggerStick trump card,]] and the deciding factor in several battles. However, they also end up [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard killing their own side]] more than once.
4th Mar '16 6:42:43 AM Psychopompos007
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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unmakeable even now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. [[SerialEscalation This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]

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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unmakeable even now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]].scratch]]]]. [[SerialEscalation This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]
30th Oct '15 1:22:37 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unmakeable even now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]

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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unmakeable even now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. [[SerialEscalation This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]
30th Oct '15 1:21:35 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unmakeable even now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. [[BeyondTheImpossible This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]]]

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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unmakeable even now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. [[BeyondTheImpossible This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]]]]]
25th Oct '15 6:18:31 AM Mnemonik2
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* BadBoss: Hamilcar Barca is this to his domestic staff. He notably has his slave master drowned in manure and his chief steward crucified after hearing about the Mercenaries' trashing of his house, even though he couldn't have done anything to stop them.

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* BadBoss: Hamilcar Barca is this to his domestic staff. He notably has his slave master drowned in manure and his chief steward crucified after hearing about the Mercenaries' trashing of his house, even though he they couldn't have done anything to stop them.



* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unfilmable even now. In fact, it might not even make it into a graphic novel. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, boiling fish alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. [[SerialEscalation This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]]]

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* {{Gorn}}: Tons of it. A faithful adaptation of the book would almost certainly be unfilmable unmakeable even now. In fact, it might not even make it into a graphic novel.now, in any medium. Even more shocking when you remember that this was published in ''1862.'' Notable instances include: [[spoiler: extreme animal cruelty, including cutting the trunks off elephants, boiling lighting fires under cauldrons of fish to slowly cook them alive and covering pigs in burning pitch; numerous crucifixions, including one of a man with advanced leprosy whose limbs are then [[BodyHorror torn off by his own bodyweight]]; mass child sacrifice via roasting alive; friends forced to fight and kill each other, and a man being literally flayed to death by an angry mob who have been ordered to do so [[DeathOfAThousandCuts scratch by scratch]]. [[SerialEscalation [[BeyondTheImpossible This list does not include the 'fight scenes'.]]]]



* WeaponKitchenSink: Justified, since the Mercenary army comes from all over Africa and beyond.

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* WeaponKitchenSink: WeaponsKitchenSink: Justified, since the Mercenary army comes from all over Africa and beyond.beyond, and a lot of their best equipment is stolen or scavenged.
25th Oct '15 6:00:17 AM Mnemonik2
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* Improvised Weapon: Narr'Havas [[ImpalePalm nails Matho's hand to a feasting bench]] with a javelin in the first chapter. Matho [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower throws the bench back at him.]]

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* Improvised Weapon: Narr'Havas [[ImpalePalm [[ImpaledPalm nails Matho's hand to a feasting bench]] with a javelin in the first chapter. Matho [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower throws the bench back at him.]]
25th Oct '15 5:59:55 AM Mnemonik2
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* BadBoss: Hamilcar Barca is this to his domestic staff. He notably has his chief steward ''drowned in manure'' after hearing about the Mercenaries' trashing of his house, even though he couldn't have done anything to stop them.

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* BadBoss: Hamilcar Barca is this to his domestic staff. He notably has his slave master drowned in manure and his chief steward ''drowned in manure'' crucified after hearing about the Mercenaries' trashing of his house, even though he couldn't have done anything to stop them.



* Improvised Weapon: Narr'Havas [[ImpalePalm nails Matho's hand to a feasting bench]] with a javelin in the first chapter. Matho [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower throws the bench back at him.]]



** His elephants also serve as a twisted version - it's [[BerserkButton when he sees the injuries the Mercenaries inflicted on them]] that he orders his chief steward crucified.



* PyrrhicVictory: Several.

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* PyrrhicVictory: Several.Several of the battles. Since Carthage was completely subjugated by Rome within forty years of this war and ''completely destroyed'' less than a hundred years after it, [[ShaggyDogStory the whole story is one!]]


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* TheStarscream: Almost everyone of note. Hamilcar leads the Carthaginian war effort while scheming to monopolise food supplies and come out of it even richer than he already is. Meanwhile, Hanno and all the city Elders are openly trying to undermine him and increase their own power. Spendius uses Matho as a puppet leader to try and carve himself out a comfortable niche, and Narr'Havas betrays the Mercenaries entirely for the sake of Salammbo's hand in marriage.


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* SufferTheSlings: A common weapon on both sides, and it's made [[BoomHeadshot very clear]] just how dangerous they were. Some of the mercenaries inscribe jokes and insults on their bullets [[EvilIsPetty to imprint them on the skin of their victims.]]
* WeaponKitchenSink: Justified, since the Mercenary army comes from all over Africa and beyond.
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