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Trope name is Sci Fi Writers Have No Sense Of Scale, not any of its subpages. Discussion here.


* PropagandaMachine: In-series, the public is being misled about the size of the CIS forces. The holonews keeps saying "quadrillions". But as the protagonists point out, if there were quadrillions of battle droids, they'd have lost the war long ago. All of this is revealed to be a ploy by [[BigBad Palpatine]] to keep support for the war going. Out of universe, this was probably meant as a TakeThat to other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers with SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfUnits.

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* PropagandaMachine: In-series, the public is being misled about the size of the CIS forces. The holonews keeps saying "quadrillions". But as the protagonists point out, if there were quadrillions of battle droids, they'd have lost the war long ago. All of this is revealed to be a ploy by [[BigBad Palpatine]] to keep support for the war going. Out of universe, this was probably meant as a TakeThat to other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers with SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfUnits.[[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale No Sense of Scale]].
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** Bardan Jusik, a Jedi Knight sympathetic to the clone troopers, is eventually recorded giving the Jedi Council a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech over their increasing willingness to sacrifice their stated ideals on the altar of MyCountryRightOrWrong, then quits the Jedi Order as a conscientious objector and moves to Mandalore. [[SerendipitiousSurvival Which proves to be a fortunate choice given what happens later...]]

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** Bardan Jusik, a Jedi Knight sympathetic to the clone troopers, is eventually recorded giving the Jedi Council a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech over their increasing willingness to sacrifice their stated ideals on the altar of MyCountryRightOrWrong, then quits the Jedi Order as a conscientious objector and moves to Mandalore. [[SerendipitiousSurvival Mandalore, and is adopted into Clan Skirata. [[SerendipitousSurvival Which proves to be a fortunate choice given what happens later...]]

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** Amongst other things, armor has withstood blaster bolts, bullets, flamethrowers, grenades, and vaccuum.

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** Amongst other things, armor has withstood blaster bolts, bullets, flamethrowers, grenades, and vaccuum.vacuum.



** Etain, a Jedi apprentice who survives the death of her master at the outbreak of the Clone Wars and becomes a badass in her own right. Rav Bralor is implied to be one. Also, Ny.

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** Etain, a Jedi apprentice who survives the death of her master at the outbreak of the Clone Wars and becomes a badass in her own right. right.
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* AntiHero: Lots.
** Skirata himself bounces from a Type III to a Type V throughout the course of the books.
** Vau is a solid Type V, with shades of IV.

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* %%* AntiHero: Lots.
** %%** Skirata himself bounces from a Type III to a Type V throughout the course of the books.
** %%** Vau is a solid Type V, with shades of IV.IV.
* ArcWelding ''Order 66'' does a little of it to patch holes between the prequel trilogy canon and preceding EU -- now Legends -- material.
** The Spaarti cloning cylinders from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' make an appearance, explained as a different technology than used by the Kaminoans that [[QuantityVsQuality can grow clones faster at the cost of reduced quality control]].
** Jedi Master Djinn Altis, first discussed in ''Literature/TheCallistaTrilogy'', appears with his mobile Jedi Academy on the starship ''Chu'unthor'', along with Callista Ming herself. They're explained as a Jedi splinter sect deemed semi-heretical by the Jedi Council, in large part for their acceptance of romantic relationships. They return in ''501st'' and allow a couple of Jedi being sheltered by the Mandalorians to join them.



* BadassAdorable: Kad Skirata. He's a baby, but he's [[spoiler: the son of an elite solider and a Jedi and is Force-sensitive.]] In the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, he's grown up to be an awesome Mandalorian wearing a hodgepodge of armor from all of his uncles.

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* BadassAdorable: Kad Skirata. He's a baby, but he's [[spoiler: the son of an elite solider and a Jedi and is Force-sensitive.]] In the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'' series, he's grown up to be an awesome Mandalorian wearing a hodgepodge of armor from all of his uncles.uncles, and was trained in the ways of the Force by Bardan Jusik/Skirata.



* BigBad: Interestingly, Palpatine still seems to play this role. Instead of a Sith Lord however, he's merely perceived by the main characters as a manipulative politican who's much meaner than he looks. The fact that the protagonists realized this immediately while the Jedi are still unsure is a testament to their experience.

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* BigBad: Interestingly, Palpatine still seems to play this role. Instead of a Sith Lord Lord, however, he's merely perceived by the main characters as a manipulative politican who's much meaner than he looks. The fact that the protagonists realized this immediately while the Jedi are still unsure is a testament to their experience.



* ExtremeMeleeRevenge: Darman on Skirata when he finds out that [[spoiler: Kad is his son.]]

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* ExtremeMeleeRevenge: Darman on beats the ''osik'' out of Skirata when he finds out that [[spoiler: Kad [[spoiler:Kad is his son.]]son]] and Skirata kept it from him.






* {{Retcon}}:
** This series did a number on the then-recent "History of the Mandalorians" article by Abel G. Pena. Instead of Spar being an insane, fanatical, and charismatic Mandalore who becomes a ShellShockedVeteran, he's a cynical puppet warlord who's OnlyInItForTheMoney, the Mandalorian Civil War was a minor affair that most Mandalorians ignored, and instead of only around 212 highly dangerous Mandalorians, we have an entire planet of them. Also, that totally awesome City of Bone from the Marvel Comics? Now a failed tourist trap. Of course, with the 3rd-person character POV the reader's provided with, we never do get the entire picture of just what was going on with Spar -- and it all becomes a moot point, anyway, when just about ''everything'' in the series was retconned out.
** ''Order 66'' does a little of it to patch holes between the prequel trilogy canon and preceding EU -- now Legends -- material.
*** The Spaarti cloning cylinders from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' make an appearance, explained as a different technology than used by the Kaminoans that [[QuantityVsQuality can grow clones faster at the cost of reduced quality control]].
*** Jedi Master Djinn Altis, first discussed in ''Literature/TheCallistaTrilogy'', appears with his mobile Jedi Academy on the starship ''Chu'unthor'', along with Callista Ming herself. They're explained as a Jedi splinter sect deemed semi-heretical by the Jedi Council, in large part for their acceptance of romantic relationships. They return in ''501st'' and allow a couple of Jedi being sheltered by the Mandalorians to join them.

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* {{Retcon}}:
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{{Retcon}}: This series did a number on the then-recent "History of the Mandalorians" article by Abel G. Pena. Instead of Spar being an insane, fanatical, and charismatic Mandalore who becomes a ShellShockedVeteran, he's a cynical puppet warlord who's OnlyInItForTheMoney, the Mandalorian Civil War was a minor affair that most Mandalorians ignored, and instead of only around 212 highly dangerous Mandalorians, we have an entire planet of them. Also, that totally awesome City of Bone from the Marvel Comics? Now a failed tourist trap. Of course, with the 3rd-person character POV the reader's provided with, we never do get the entire picture of just what was going on with Spar -- and it all becomes a moot point, anyway, when just about ''everything'' in the series was retconned out.
** ''Order 66'' does a little of it to patch holes between the prequel trilogy canon and preceding EU -- now Legends -- material.
*** The Spaarti cloning cylinders from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' make an appearance, explained as a different technology than used by the Kaminoans that [[QuantityVsQuality can grow clones faster at the cost of reduced quality control]].
*** Jedi Master Djinn Altis, first discussed in ''Literature/TheCallistaTrilogy'', appears with his mobile Jedi Academy on the starship ''Chu'unthor'', along with Callista Ming herself. They're explained as a Jedi splinter sect deemed semi-heretical by the Jedi Council, in large part for their acceptance of romantic relationships. They return in ''501st'' and allow a couple of Jedi being sheltered by the Mandalorians to join them.
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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: {{Lampshaded}} with the 1.2 million clone trooper number, which Traviss upped to 3 million: she was only following the lead of the higher-canon ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' novelization from two years earlier and even mocks it in the short story "Odds." ''Order 66'' introduces non-Kaminoan clones to compensate, invoking the "Spaarti cylinders" technology from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' with the explanation that [[QuantityVsQuality quality control with the Arkanian tech isn't as good but it allows a much higher rate of production than the ten-year-long Kaminoan process]].
* ScrewThisImOutOfHere: Clan Skirata gradually prepares an "exit route" from the Grand Army of the Republic that they use when Order 66 goes down. They then set up a sanctuary so that any clone feeling the itch can follow after them. This can feel cruel, but as Skirata points out, clones don't get paid and don't have a retirement plan. This is just giving them the work benefits they're entitled to.

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: {{Lampshaded}} with the 1.2 million clone trooper number, which Traviss upped to 3 million: she was only following the lead of the higher-canon ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' novelization from two years earlier and even mocks it in the short story "Odds." "Odds". ''Order 66'' introduces non-Kaminoan clones to compensate, invoking [[ArcWelding reintroducing the "Spaarti cylinders" technology technology]] from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' with the explanation that [[QuantityVsQuality quality control with the Arkanian tech isn't as good but it allows a much higher rate of production than the ten-year-long Kaminoan process]].
* ScrewThisImOutOfHere: ScrewThisImOutOfHere:
** Bardan Jusik, a Jedi Knight sympathetic to the clone troopers, is eventually recorded giving the Jedi Council a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech over their increasing willingness to sacrifice their stated ideals on the altar of MyCountryRightOrWrong, then quits the Jedi Order as a conscientious objector and moves to Mandalore. [[SerendipitiousSurvival Which proves to be a fortunate choice given what happens later...]]
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Clan Skirata gradually prepares an "exit route" from the Grand Army of the Republic that they use when Order 66 goes down. They then set up a sanctuary so that any clone feeling the itch can follow after them. This can feel cruel, but as Skirata points out, clones don't get paid and don't have a retirement plan. This is just giving them the work benefits they're entitled to.



* SuperSoldier: The commandos.

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* SuperSoldier: The {{Downplayed}} with the clone commandos. They're still Fett-genome clones like standard troopers and don't have significantly different equipment (in ''Order 66'' they even transfer a standard clone into a commando squad), but were selected for special warfare training during their development. It's never really addressed whether this was meant to reflect natural developmental variations or if it was just random chance.



* SparseListOfRules: Order 66 comes from a list of [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Contingency_Orders_for_the_Grand_Army_of_the_Republic:_Order_Initiation,_Orders_1_Through_150 at least 150 contingency orders]], of which this series gives us the text of numbers 4, 5, 37, 65, and 66.

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* SparseListOfRules: Order 66 comes is stated in this series to come from a list of [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Contingency_Orders_for_the_Grand_Army_of_the_Republic:_Order_Initiation,_Orders_1_Through_150 at least 150 contingency orders]], of which this series the novel of same name gives us the text of numbers 4, 5, 37, 65, and 66.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: A lot of the series is about employing this trope on events in the main ''Star Wars'' films.[[BroadStrokes These are all also still canon unless stated otherwise.]]
** The Battle of Geonosis looked really cool, but was apparently a tactical clustercuss, with huge clone and Jedi casualties. The Republic Commandos are thus overstretched and at half the strength they were meant to be.
** The Jedi are great warriors, but never trained to lead militaries, leaving the Republic Army less prepared than it'd like to be.

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: A lot of the series is about employing this trope on events in the main ''Star Wars'' films.[[BroadStrokes These are all also still canon unless stated otherwise.]]
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** The series {{deconstruct|edTrope}}s the HollywoodTactics of the films:
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The Battle of Geonosis looked really cool, cool on film in ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'', but according to this series it was apparently a tactical clustercuss, complete [[PardonMyKlingon clusterkriff]], with huge clone and Jedi casualties.casualties due to [[HollywoodTactics poor tactics like running en masse across an open field into artillery fire]]. The Republic Commandos are thus overstretched and at half the strength they were meant to be.
*** On a larger scale, all the battles look really cool, but strategically the running of the war seems like a total mess.
---->'''Atin:''' It's almost as if [[BigBad someone]] is trying to strand as many generals as possible in as many stupid places with inadequate support.
** The Jedi are great warriors, but but, [[Literature/DarthBane it having been a thousand years since the Republic saw an armed conflict with a peer-level opponent]], they were never trained to lead militaries, leaving the Republic Army less prepared than it'd like to be.



** All the battles look really cool, but strategically the running of the war seems like a total mess.
--->'''Atin:''' It's almost as if [[BigBad someone]] is trying to strand as many generals as possible in as many stupid places with inadequate support.'''



* {{Tearjerker}}: [[spoiler: Etain's]] death and the scenes that immediately follow at Kyrimorut. Also, [[spoiler:Delta Squad leaving Sev behind.]]
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* TakeThat: The main characters consider Boba Fett (a twelve-year-old as of this series) to be an entitled punk, and one of them gave him a {{swirlie}} off-screen.

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* TakeThat: The main characters consider Boba Fett (a twelve-year-old as of this series) to be an entitled punk, and one of them gave him a {{swirlie}} off-screen. They also openly ridicule Commander Cody for actually liking Obi-Wan Kenobi, seeming to think he has UsefulNotes/StockholmSyndrome.
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* SubmersibleSpaceship: Kal Skirata spends some time tracking a runaway Kaminoan scientist, hoping she can reverse the clone troopers' accelerated aging. Since the Kaminoans are amphibious, he purchases a Mon Calamari-built shuttle for the purpose that's [[JustifiedTrope designed]] to double as a submarine.
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* OurClonesAreDifferent: This series fixes discrepancies between the prequel trilogy and the ''Thrawn'' trilogy by introducing Spaarti-grown clone troopers late in the war. ''Order 66'' states that quality control with the Arkanian technology is not as good but it allows much faster production than the Kaminoan process.
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Cloning Blues renamed to Clone Angst as per TRS, specifically about angst from a character discovering that they're a clone.


* CloningBlues: Done a number of ways. On the surface level, the clones don't care. They're even ''proud'' of their heritage, because they were bred to be whoopass on every other "randomly conceived being" in the galaxy. On the other hand, near every single one of them has issues from being born and raised to be soldiers. The series is about how they're kind of overlooked in the scheme of things and how their mentors try to get them out of it.
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* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: The Mandalorians prize readiness to defend what one cares about, to the point where (as noted in ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce: Revelation'' by the same author) their language lacks a word for "hero," not because they don't recognize the concept, but because they don't consider it particularly ''noteworthy''. At least four of the Six Actions are tied partially or fully to martial arts.

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* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: The Mandalorians prize readiness to defend what one cares about, to the point where (as noted in ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce: Revelation'' by the same author) their language lacks a word for "hero," not because they don't recognize the concept, but because they don't consider it particularly ''noteworthy''. At least four of the Six Actions are tied partially or fully to martial arts. Though in practice the Mandalorians treat training to fight as something akin to militia service: Mandalore is an agrarian world and most of its inhabitants have day jobs other than being warriors.

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* ManOnFire: Darman [[spoiler: survives with little damage but plenty of nightmares]].
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* SparseListOfRules: [[KillEmAll Order 66]] comes from a list of [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Contingency_Orders_for_the_Grand_Army_of_the_Republic:_Order_Initiation,_Orders_1_Through_150 at least 150 contingency orders]], of which this series gives us the text of numbers 4, 5, 37, 65, and 66.

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* SparseListOfRules: [[KillEmAll SparseListOfRules: Order 66]] 66 comes from a list of [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Contingency_Orders_for_the_Grand_Army_of_the_Republic:_Order_Initiation,_Orders_1_Through_150 at least 150 contingency orders]], of which this series gives us the text of numbers 4, 5, 37, 65, and 66.

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* HeroOfAnotherStory: ''Order 66'' has the main commandoes briefly run into several disguised Jedi apprentices who escaped the massacre at the Jedi Temple and are trying to get off-planet (with at least one of them escaping after they are discovered). However, most of the commandoes would object to calling those Jedi "heroes" part of the trope, since the Jedi accidentally kill some civilians while deflecting blaster bolts in a closed space and one of them [[spoiler:accidentally cuts down Etain when she tries to save a clone who reminds her of Darman.]]

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* HeroOfAnotherStory: HeroOfAnotherStory:
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''Order 66'' has the main commandoes briefly run into several disguised Jedi apprentices who escaped the massacre at the Jedi Temple and are trying to get off-planet (with at least one of them escaping after they are discovered). However, most of the commandoes would object to calling those Jedi "heroes" part of the trope, since the Jedi accidentally kill some civilians while deflecting blaster bolts in a closed space and one of them [[spoiler:accidentally cuts down Etain when she tries to save a clone who reminds her of Darman.]]]]
** Near the beginning of ''501st'', the Special Operations Brigade commandoes are given a list of clone troopers who deserted and ordered to remain on the lookout for them. While most of those commandoes are main or supporting characters who end up on Mandalore, the previously unmentioned Hyperion Squad is never seen or mentioned again. This suggests that Hyperion Squad is on the run from the Empire elsewhere in the galaxy, and that they have different motives for deserting than Clan Skirata.

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* BadassBookworm: Jusik, and, surprisingly [[spoiler: Maze]].

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Jusik, and, surprisingly [[spoiler: Maze]].Maze]] are well-read men and lethal combatants.
* BadassBookworm: One of Dr. Uthan's fellow virologists goes for a knife when the squad come to capture Uthan. This earns her a blaster bolt to the torso.



* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: When Maze is asked why [[spoiler:he saved General Zey's life, [[FakingTheDead contrary to initial appearances that he did execute Order 66]]]] he replies that [[spoiler:Zey]] always made coffee for the two of them despite Maze's AlmightyJanitor status.



* DeerInTheHeadlights: Several of Dr. Uthan's assistants are shot by the clones after they freeze in panic rather than follow their bodyguard's orders to duck and cover.



* HeadInTheSandManagement: General Zey is portrayed with shades of this. He gets better.

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* HeadInTheSandManagement: General Zey is portrayed with shades of this. ignorance about the culture of his troops and the ruthlessness of his superiors. He gets better.better.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: ''Order 66'' has the main commandoes briefly run into several disguised Jedi apprentices who escaped the massacre at the Jedi Temple and are trying to get off-planet (with at least one of them escaping after they are discovered). However, most of the commandoes would object to calling those Jedi "heroes" part of the trope, since the Jedi accidentally kill some civilians while deflecting blaster bolts in a closed space and one of them [[spoiler:accidentally cuts down Etain when she tries to save a clone who reminds her of Darman.]]
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* UndergroundRailroad: Nyreen Vollen is a freight hauler who helps deserting Clone Troopers run away from the war. After the war, she also helps smuggle a few Jedi away from those who want them dead.
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* PropagandaMachine: In-series, the public is being misled about the CIS force. The holonews keeps saying "quadrillions". But as the protagonists point out, if there were quadrillions of battle droids, they'd have lost the war long ago. All of this is revealed to be a ploy by [[BigBad Palpatine]] to keep support for the war going. Out of universe, this was probably meant as a TakeThat to other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers with SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfUnits.

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* PropagandaMachine: In-series, the public is being misled about the size of the CIS force.forces. The holonews keeps saying "quadrillions". But as the protagonists point out, if there were quadrillions of battle droids, they'd have lost the war long ago. All of this is revealed to be a ploy by [[BigBad Palpatine]] to keep support for the war going. Out of universe, this was probably meant as a TakeThat to other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers with SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfUnits.



* TwinSwitch: The Nulls take advantage of this often, combining it with BavarianFireDrill to infiltrate.

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* TwinSwitch: The Nulls take advantage of this often, combining it with BavarianFireDrill to infiltrate.infiltrate Republic installations dressed as regular clone troopers. Notably, Ordo switching places with Corr in ''Triple Zero'' leads to him meeting and falling in love with Besany, and Corr eventually joining Omega Squad.
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* CanonImmigrant: The specific characters and events of this series were rendered CanonDiscontinuity by ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': Creator/GeorgeLucas reportedly had a very different vision of the present-day Mandalorians than anybody working for him (his original idea of "New Mandalorians" became Satine Kryze's faction), and the series using RestrainingBolts rather than SlaveLiberation as an explanation for the clones to participate in Order 66. However, because of its popularity, Creator/DaveFiloni built a lot of his portrayal of the Mandalorians on Traviss's novels. Particular examples include:

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* CanonImmigrant: The specific characters and events of this series were rendered CanonDiscontinuity by ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': Creator/GeorgeLucas reportedly had a very different vision of the present-day Mandalorians than anybody working for him (his original idea of "New Mandalorians" became Satine Kryze's faction), and the series using RestrainingBolts uses {{Restraining Bolt}}s rather than SlaveLiberation as an explanation for the clones to participate in Order 66. However, because of its popularity, Creator/DaveFiloni built a lot of his portrayal of the Mandalorians on Traviss's novels. Particular examples include:

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* CanonImmigrant: While the characters and events of this series were rendered CanonDiscontinuity by ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' (Creator/GeorgeLucas reportedly having had a very different vision of the present-day Mandalorians than anybody working for him), because of its popularity, Creator/DaveFiloni built a lot of his portrayal of the Mandalorians on Traviss's novels. Particular examples include:

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* CanonImmigrant: While the The specific characters and events of this series were rendered CanonDiscontinuity by ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' (Creator/GeorgeLucas ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': Creator/GeorgeLucas reportedly having had a very different vision of the present-day Mandalorians than anybody working for him), him (his original idea of "New Mandalorians" became Satine Kryze's faction), and the series using RestrainingBolts rather than SlaveLiberation as an explanation for the clones to participate in Order 66. However, because of its popularity, Creator/DaveFiloni built a lot of his portrayal of the Mandalorians on Traviss's novels. Particular examples include:



** The subplot in "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS2E10TheDeserter The Deserter]]" involving Cut Lawquayne, a clone who deserted from ther army, bears a resemblance to a subplot in the later ''Republic Commando'' books where clones who try to leave the army are targeted for elimination.



* TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong: [[spoiler:A pregnant Etain wants to give her child a normal life, which she never had since she was a Jedi. Kal insists that because Darman is Mandalorian, so should the child, to which Etain accepts without question, despite there being nothing wrong with giving the child a normal life and Kal has no business telling Etain how to raise her kid, [[{{Hypocrite}} making him not much better than how the Jedi dealt with Force-sensitive kids]].]]

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* TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong: [[spoiler:A pregnant Etain wants to give her child a normal life, which she never had since she was a Jedi. Kal insists that because Darman is Mandalorian, so should the child, child be, to which Etain accepts without question, despite there being nothing wrong with giving the child a normal life and Kal has no business telling Etain how to raise her kid, [[{{Hypocrite}} making him not much better than how the Jedi dealt with Force-sensitive kids]].]]



* CorruptedContingency: {{Invoked|Trope}} in ''Order 66''. In this novel, the eponymous WhamLine from ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' is shown to be part of a SparseListOfRules covering over 150 GodzillaThreshold scenarios for the Grand Army of the Republic: the one right before it requires the army to remove Supreme Chancellor Palpatine instead. [[ExactWords A careful reading]] shows that while Order 65 permits lethal force against the sitting chancellor ''if necessary'', Order 66 ''commands'' the clone army to use lethal force against the Jedi. This difference went unnoticed by anyone but Palpatine, who had created the army of SlaveMooks in the first place as a trap for the Jedi, until it was too late.

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* CorruptedContingency: {{Invoked|Trope}} in ''Order 66''. In this novel, the eponymous WhamLine from ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' is shown to be part of a SparseListOfRules covering over 150 hypothetical GodzillaThreshold scenarios for the Grand Army of the Republic: Order 37 allows the one right before it army to take a civilian population hostage to compel a high-value target to surrender themselves, while Order 65 requires the army to remove Supreme Chancellor Palpatine instead. [[ExactWords A careful reading]] reading shows that two key differences with Order 66]]: One, while Order 65 permits lethal force against the sitting chancellor ''if necessary'', Order 66 ''commands'' the clone army to use lethal force against the Jedi.Jedi. Two, while Order 65 must be ratified by either a majority of the Senate or [[CrypticBackgroundReference the Security Council]], Order 66 as written can be issued on the sole authority of the Supreme Chancellor. This difference went unnoticed by anyone but Palpatine, who had created the army of SlaveMooks in the first place as a trap for the Jedi, until it was too late.

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* CanonImmigrant: On the receiving end of this.

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* CanonImmigrant: On While the receiving end characters and events of this.this series were rendered CanonDiscontinuity by ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' (Creator/GeorgeLucas reportedly having had a very different vision of the present-day Mandalorians than anybody working for him), because of its popularity, Creator/DaveFiloni built a lot of his portrayal of the Mandalorians on Traviss's novels. Particular examples include:



** The lightsaber-resistant {{unobtainium}} beskar, introduced to canon in ''Series/TheMandalorian'', was created in this series as a partial explanation for how non-Force-sensitive Mandalorians could [[MageKiller go toe-to-toe with Jedi in past conflicts and have any hope of winning the encounter]]. It's so important in their culture that the Mando'a word "beskar'gam" means not just armor made of beskar but armor in general.



* CorruptedContingency: {{Invoked|Trope}} in ''Order 66''. In this novel, the eponymous WhamLine from ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' is shown to be part of a SparseListOfRules covering over 150 GodzillaThreshold scenarios for the Grand Army of the Republic: the one right before it requires the army to remove Supreme Chancellor Palpatine instead. [[ExactWords A careful reading]] shows that while Order 65 permits lethal force against the sitting chancellor ''if necessary'', Order 66 ''commands'' the clone army to use lethal force against the Jedi. This difference went unnoticed by anyone but Palpatine, who had created the army of SlaveMooks in the first place as a trap for the Jedi, until it was too late.



** Barden Jusik. It's just he defected from the ''Jedi Order.''

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** Barden Jusik. It's just he defected Bardan Jusik resigns from the ''Jedi Order.''Jedi Order and moves to Mandalore in ''Hard Contact'' after becoming disgusted with the Jedi Council's willingness to take part in the enslavement of the millions of clone soldiers. His WhatTheHellHero speech to them is something else.
--->"So how do we justify what we are doing now? Breeding men without choice, and without freedom, to fight and die for us? When do the means cease to justify the end? Where is our society heading? Where are our ideals, and what are we without them? If we give in to expedience in this way, where do we draw the line between ourselves and those we find unacceptably evil? I have no answer, Masters. Do you?"
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* BigBad: Interestingly, Palpatine still seems to play this role. Instead of a Sith Lord however, he's merely perceived as a manipulative politican who's much meaner than he looks. That the protagonists perceive this immediately while the Jedi are still unsure is a testament to their experience.

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* BigBad: Interestingly, Palpatine still seems to play this role. Instead of a Sith Lord however, he's merely perceived by the main characters as a manipulative politican who's much meaner than he looks. That The fact that the protagonists perceive realized this immediately while the Jedi are still unsure is a testament to their experience.experience.
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* GeniusBonus: Many examples. The series is written by a long-time war correspondent, so a lot of it is recognizable to people acquainted with military life.
** The Mandalorain Morse code {{Expy}} is called ''dadita''. Written or spoken, dots and dashes in Morse code are called ''dits'' and ''das''.
** he tendency to harangue the upper brass is pretty realistic.
** While toning itself down to fit the tone and age bracket of ''Star Wars'', the series reads as military fiction/political drama as much as it can.
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** This series did a number on the then-recent "History of the Mandalorians" article by Abel G. Pena. Instead of Spar being an insane, fanatical, and charismatic Mandalore who becomes a ShellShockedVeteran, he's a cynical puppet warlord who's in it for the MoneyDearBoy, the Mandalorian Civil War was a minor affair that most Mandalorians ignored, and instead of only around 212 highly dangerous Mandalorians, we have an entire planet of them. Also, that totally awesome City of Bone from the Marvel Comics? Now a failed tourist trap. Of course, with the 3rd-person character POV the reader's provided with, we never do get the entire picture of just what was going on with Spar -- and it all becomes a moot point, anyway, when just about ''everything'' in the series was retconned out.

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** This series did a number on the then-recent "History of the Mandalorians" article by Abel G. Pena. Instead of Spar being an insane, fanatical, and charismatic Mandalore who becomes a ShellShockedVeteran, he's a cynical puppet warlord who's in it for the MoneyDearBoy, OnlyInItForTheMoney, the Mandalorian Civil War was a minor affair that most Mandalorians ignored, and instead of only around 212 highly dangerous Mandalorians, we have an entire planet of them. Also, that totally awesome City of Bone from the Marvel Comics? Now a failed tourist trap. Of course, with the 3rd-person character POV the reader's provided with, we never do get the entire picture of just what was going on with Spar -- and it all becomes a moot point, anyway, when just about ''everything'' in the series was retconned out.

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** ''Order 66'' does a little of it to patch holes between the prequel trilogy canon and the preceding EU -- now Legends -- material. The Spaarti cloning cylinders from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' make an appearance, explained as a different technology than used by the Kaminoans that [[QuantityVsQuality can grow clones faster at the cost of reduced quality control]].

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** ''Order 66'' does a little of it to patch holes between the prequel trilogy canon and the preceding EU -- now Legends -- material. material.
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The Spaarti cloning cylinders from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' make an appearance, explained as a different technology than used by the Kaminoans that [[QuantityVsQuality can grow clones faster at the cost of reduced quality control]].control]].
*** Jedi Master Djinn Altis, first discussed in ''Literature/TheCallistaTrilogy'', appears with his mobile Jedi Academy on the starship ''Chu'unthor'', along with Callista Ming herself. They're explained as a Jedi splinter sect deemed semi-heretical by the Jedi Council, in large part for their acceptance of romantic relationships. They return in ''501st'' and allow a couple of Jedi being sheltered by the Mandalorians to join them.



* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: {{Lampshaded}} with the 1.2 million clone trooper number, which Traviss upped to 3 million: she was only following the lead of the higher-canon ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' novelization from two years earlier and even mocks it in the short story "Odds." ''Order 66'' introduces non-Kaminoan clones to compensate, invoking the "Spaarti cylinders" technology from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' with the explanation that [[QuantityVsQuality quality control with the Arkanian tech isn't as good but it allows a higher rate of production than the Kaminoan process]].

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: {{Lampshaded}} with the 1.2 million clone trooper number, which Traviss upped to 3 million: she was only following the lead of the higher-canon ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' novelization from two years earlier and even mocks it in the short story "Odds." ''Order 66'' introduces non-Kaminoan clones to compensate, invoking the "Spaarti cylinders" technology from ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' with the explanation that [[QuantityVsQuality quality control with the Arkanian tech isn't as good but it allows a much higher rate of production than the ten-year-long Kaminoan process]].

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* BladeEnthusiast: Skirata's three-sided blade is mentioned quite often, as it is his close-ranged weapon of choice that he keeps on him at all times. We discover in ''Order 66'' that it used to belong to his biological father.
** Corr enjoys performing knife tricks with his prosthetic hands.



* FiveManBand: (only in ''Hard Contact''):
** TheHero: Darman
** TheLancer: Atin
** TheSmartGuy: Fi
** TheBigGuy: Niner
** TheChick: Etain



* KnifeNut: Skirata's three-sided blade is mentioned quite often, as it is his close-ranged weapon of choice that he keeps on him at all times. We discover in ''Order 66'' that it used to belong to his biological father.
** Corr enjoys performing knife tricks with his prosthetic hands.
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* MoralDissonance: Kal Skirata, likes to make a big stink about how the Jedi ([[DependingOnTheAuthor supposedly]]) don't care about the clones as individuals like he does, all while he imposes his own culture onto the clone troopers under his command without any consideration given to them ever having a choice in the matter. Since the culture in question is the [[CreatorsPet Mandalorian culture]], and the writer is Creator/KarenTraviss, [[SarcasmMode naturally this is the only right thing to do.]]
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** In ''Order 66'', [[Geneticist Dr. Nenilin turning in his research to the Chancellor's office]] makes it a lot harder for Skirata to operate.
** In the same book, the assault on Coruscant - AKA the beginning of Episode III - derails the plan to desert. [[XanatosSpeedGambit t on the plus side, it gets everyone back to Coruscant quickly.]]

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** In ''Order 66'', [[Geneticist [[spoiler:Geneticist Dr. Nenilin turning in his research to the Chancellor's office]] makes it a lot harder for Skirata to operate.
** In the same book, the assault on Coruscant - AKA the beginning of Episode III - derails the plan to desert. [[XanatosSpeedGambit t [[XanatosSpeedChess on the plus side, it gets everyone back to Coruscant quickly.]]
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** The exclamation ''Fierfek''. This one is preexisting Huttese for "hex" or "curse" (it's also used to mean "poison" but few poisons work on Hutts), but the commandos adopted it as a battlefield swear word.

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** The exclamation ''Fierfek''. This one is [[Literature/TalesFromJabbasPalace preexisting Huttese Huttese]] for "hex" or "curse" (it's also used to mean "poison" but few poisons work on Hutts), but the commandos adopted it as a battlefield swear word.

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* MoreSeniorSubordinate: In ''Hard Contact'', after rescuing Etain, Darman looks her as his lawful military superior: under the terms of the Military Creation Act, all Jedi assigned to the war effort were made officers in the Grand Army of the Republic. Poor Etain is just a Jedi Padawan who was on assignment with her now-deceased Master when the Clone Wars started and barely even has any idea what's going on.



** The exclamation ''Fierfek''. This one is actually Huttese for "hex", "curse", or "poison", but the commandos adopted it as a battlefield swear word.

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** The exclamation ''Fierfek''. This one is actually preexisting Huttese for "hex", "curse", "hex" or "poison", "curse" (it's also used to mean "poison" but few poisons work on Hutts), but the commandos adopted it as a battlefield swear word.



* PregnantBadass: Later on in the series [[spoiler: Etain]] becomes one.
* PropagandaMachine: In-series, the public is being misled about the CIS force. The holonews keeps saying "quadrillions". But as the protagonists point out, if there were quadrillions of battle droids, they'd have lost the war long ago. All of this is revealed to be a ploy by [[BigBad Palpatine]] to keep support for the war going.

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* PregnantBadass: Later on in the series [[spoiler: Etain]] becomes one.
one, fighting several major battles while heavily pregnant with [[spoiler:Darman]]'s child.
* PropagandaMachine: In-series, the public is being misled about the CIS force. The holonews keeps saying "quadrillions". But as the protagonists point out, if there were quadrillions of battle droids, they'd have lost the war long ago. All of this is revealed to be a ploy by [[BigBad Palpatine]] to keep support for the war going. Out of universe, this was probably meant as a TakeThat to other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers with SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfUnits.
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** The exclamation ''Fierfek''

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** The exclamation ''Fierfek''''Fierfek''. This one is actually Huttese for "hex", "curse", or "poison", but the commandos adopted it as a battlefield swear word.

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