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* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash--and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake--than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality. That said, Snake does mention that Gabriel might "prefer men" when she's propositions him, so clearly other sexualities are still acknowledged, just rarer than they would be.
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* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash--and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake--than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality. That said, Snake does mention that Gabriel might "prefer men" when she's propositions him, so clearly other sexualities are still acknowledged, just rarer than they would be.are in a heteronormative society.
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* DeadGuyJunior: Snake is mentioned to be the fourth to bear her name, and feels she has a lot to live up to since the first two Snakes were legendary among healers. It's what drives her to atone for Grass' death, [[spoiler:and as the one to discover how to breed dreamsnakes, it's likely that she will continuity her name's legacy]].
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* DeadGuyJunior: Snake is mentioned to be the fourth to bear her name, and feels she has a lot to live up to since the first two Snakes were legendary among healers. It's what drives her to atone for Grass' death, [[spoiler:and as the one to discover how to breed dreamsnakes, it's likely that she will continuity continue her name's legacy]].
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* BrokenPedestal: Center, the one major city left on Earth, seems like a distant paradise at first, one with access to amazing medical and technological advances that might be able to solve the protagonists' problems. This utopian view is soon shattered by their harsh rejection of Snake and Melissa, as well as the reveal that they refuse to ''help'' outsiders, but ''will' help enslave them. Reading the related book ''The Exile Waiting'' completely destroys any remaining idealism, as the city turns out to be an outright [[WretchedHive hive of scum and villainy]].
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* BrokenPedestal: Center, the one major city left on Earth, seems like a distant paradise at first, one with access to amazing medical and technological advances that might be able to solve the protagonists' problems. This utopian view is soon shattered by their harsh rejection of Snake and Melissa, as well as the reveal that they refuse to ''help'' outsiders, but ''will' ''will'' help enslave them. Reading the related book ''The Exile Waiting'' completely destroys any remaining idealism, as the city turns out to be an outright [[WretchedHive hive of scum and villainy]].
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* BrokenPedestal: Center, the one major city left on Earth, seems like a distant paradise at first, one with access to amazing medical and technological advances that might be able to solve the protagonists' problems. This utopian view is soon shattered by their harsh rejection of Snake and Melissa, as well as the reveal that they refuse to ''help'' outsiders, but ''will' help enslave them. Reading the related book ''The Exile Waiting'' completely destroys any remaining idealism, as the city turns out to be an outright [[WretchedHive hive of scum and villainy]].
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* UnspecifiedApocalypse: To the point that it isn't even clear if it's Earth or not. There was some sort of nuclear war, as shown by the radioactive craters, but nobody knows who was fighting or why.
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* HealingSerpent: The main tool of the healers. Sand and Mist are genetically modified to produce medicine as venom when fed certain compounds, while Grass is an alien snake used for painless euthanasia.
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* GenderNeutralWriting: No pronouns [[AmbiguousGender are ever applied]] to [[GenderBlenderName Merideth]]. [=McIntyre=] has [[http://bookviewcafe.com/blog/2009/04/12/casting-dreamsnake/ revealed]] that this was deliberate.
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* CoolPet: Snake has a diamondback rattlesnake and an albino king cobra. At the beginning of the book, she's also got the title creature (an alien reptile whose venom acts as an anesthetic and mild hallucinogen).
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: The heroine goes by "Snake." There's a [[CoolPet blatantly obvious]] explanation, but even so.
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* RedemptionQuest: Snake decides to go and find new dreamsnakes to redeem herself for losing Grass. She knows the chances of finding even one lost dreamsnake are incredibly low, but she feels obligated to try even if it means spending her whole life searching. [[spoiler:She succeeds beyond her wildest dreams when she not only discovers a nest full of dreamsnakes, but also the secret to breeding them.]]
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* DeadGuyJunior: Snake is mentioned to be the fourth to bear her name, and feels she has a lot to live up to since the first two Snakes were legendary among healers. It's what drives her to atone for Grass' death, [[spoiler:and as the one to discover how to breed dreamsnakes, it's likely that she will continuity her name's legacy]].
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* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash—and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake—than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality. That said, Snake does mention that Gabriel might "prefer men" when she's propositions him, so clearly other sexualities still exist.
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* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash—and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake—than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality. That said, Snake does mention that Gabriel might "prefer men" when she's propositions him, so clearly other sexualities are still exist.acknowledged, just rarer than they would be.
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* ItsAllMyFault: Snake is angry when the dreamsnake dies but she doesn't blame the people who killed it, as killing a strange snake near a child is a perfectly rational response for people whose main experience with snakes are deadly pit vipers. Instead, she places the blame on herself for failing to tell them Grass was harmless and for being arrogant enough to assume that they wouldn't dare touch her snakes even if they thought a child might be in danger.
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* TheAtoner: Snake herself, as she believes her arrogance lead to Grass' death and wishes to make amends by finding more dreamsnakes for the healers.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: The Center refers to the mutants of the outside and the healers' genetic experiments as "abominations", but Snake notes that with the low amount of people in the Center itself and no contact with the outside world, they're likely heavily inbred. They also snootily tell Snake that they aren't going to give their advanced medical technology to "monsters" like the healers, but are more than happy to sell special crystals rings to slavers.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: The Center refers to the mutants of the outside and the healers' genetic experiments as "abominations", but Snake notes that with the low amount of people in the Center itself and no contact with the outside world, they're likely heavily inbred. They also snootily tell Snake that they aren't going to give their advanced medical technology to "monsters" like the healers, but are more than happy to sell special crystals crystal rings to slavers.slavers.
* IKnowYourTrueName: Downplayed. There's no actual magical component to it, but Arevin's people don't give away their names easily due to superstitions and culture.
* IKnowYourTrueName: Downplayed. There's no actual magical component to it, but Arevin's people don't give away their names easily due to superstitions and culture.
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* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: Healer training includes building immunity to the venom of most types of snakes, to avoid the occupational hazards of handling them. They still get sick from them (especially if the snake strikes a vital part of the boy), but they won't die.
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* AchievementsInIgnorance: Healers have been trying to breed dreamsnakes for centuries, but all attempts to do so have failed, and they're losing more dreamsnakes even with the cloning they do. [[spoiler:North figured it out more or less by accident, having discovered a colony of dreamsnakes still living in a broken dome.]]
* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: Healer training includes building immunity to the venom of most types of snakes, to avoid the occupational hazards of handling them. They still get sick from them (especially if the snake strikes a vital part of the boy), but they won't die. Unfortunately, it also messes with their body in other ways, giving Snake arthritis before her time and making most of them sterile.
* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: Healer training includes building immunity to the venom of most types of snakes, to avoid the occupational hazards of handling them. They still get sick from them (especially if the snake strikes a vital part of the boy), but they won't die. Unfortunately, it also messes with their body in other ways, giving Snake arthritis before her time and making most of them sterile.
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* BizarreAlienBiology: [[spoiler:Dreamsnakes, as it turns out.]]
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* BizarreAlienBiology: [[spoiler:Dreamsnakes, as it turns out. They breed in triplets, which is why previous healer experiments that used pairs have failed.]]
* ButWhatAboutTheAstronauts: Averted. Snake mentions that there are people who were living on other planets from before the war and offworlders are mentioned to visit the Center. But since the Center itself is cut off from the rest of the world, no one has ever met one and they're basically irrelevant to most people.
* CityInABottle: The Center is a city inside a mountain that has almost completely cut itself off from the outside world. While Snake never gets to see it since they don't allow her in, they appear to have more advanced technology than the other people, see the outside world as diseased and lie to their children about it, and are the only ones who offworlders contact.
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* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash—and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake—than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality.
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DeathWorld: The world is covered in the remnants of nuclear war, and the book mostly takes place in a ThirstyDesert.
* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash—and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake—than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality. That said, Snake does mention that Gabriel might "prefer men" when she's propositions him, so clearly other sexualities still exist.
* EveryoneIsBi: The likeliest possible exception is Arevin. And his obliviousness to Thad's pass at him is treated more as CultureClash—and the result of his [[SingleTargetSexuality single-targeting]] on Snake—than necessarily evidence of heterosexuality. That said, Snake does mention that Gabriel might "prefer men" when she's propositions him, so clearly other sexualities still exist.
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* FeministFantasyFeministFantasy: The book was published at the height of second-wave feminism, and bears many of the hallmarks of the movement. [[MasterOfYourDomain Biocontrol]] has given people complete sexual and reproductive freedom, with zero stigma attached to homosexuality, polyamory, premarital sex, contraception or abortion, to the point where even the conservative and contrarian Mayor is appalled that Ras refused to teach Melissa biocontrol. Non-nuclear families like Merideth's triad and the [[HappilyAdopted healers]] are shown, men and women seem to be equal, and [[spoiler:the key to breeding dreamsnakes is to see beyond the typical male-female binary that had been used up to this point.]]
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* OrganicTechnology: The Healers have bred special snakes that can create healing venoms when they ingest certain compounds, which can be used on anything from fevers to tumors. Bioluminescent "light cells" have also replaced conventional electricity.
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* OrganicTechnology: The Healers have bred special snakes that can create healing venoms when they ingest certain compounds, which can be used on anything from fevers to tumors. Bioluminescent "light cells" have also replaced conventional electricity.developed as an alternative to electricity for people who don't have access to methane or solar.
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* AcquiredPoisonImmunity: Healer training includes building immunity to the venom of most types of snakes, to avoid the occupational hazards of handling them. They still get sick from them (especially if the snake strikes a vital part of the boy), but they won't die.
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* GreatOffscreenWar: There was a massive nuclear war that resulted in Earth being the wasteland it is in the novel that has left vast craters and radioactive material all over the landscape. It's happened long enough ago that no one knows who started it or even the nations involved, as the war killed off anyone who knew or cared about such things.
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* OrganicTechnology: The Healers have bred special snakes that can create healing venoms when they ingest certain compounds, which can be used on anything from fevers to tumors. Bioluminescent "light cells" have also replaced conventional electricity.
* PollutedWasteland: While it's not completely polluted, the landscape is covered with radioactive craters that are still irradiated and will be for centuries to come. The people in the City believe that everything outside is deadly and teach their children accordingly, [[spoiler:which leads to Jesse's death since she assumed that since they lied about the outside world killing people, they were also lying about the craters being radioactive.]]
* PollutedWasteland: While it's not completely polluted, the landscape is covered with radioactive craters that are still irradiated and will be for centuries to come. The people in the City believe that everything outside is deadly and teach their children accordingly, [[spoiler:which leads to Jesse's death since she assumed that since they lied about the outside world killing people, they were also lying about the craters being radioactive.]]
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''Dreamsnake'' is a 1978 ScienceFiction novel written by Creatore/VondaNMcIntyre; winner of both the UsefulNotes/{{Hugo|Award}} and UsefulNotes/{{Nebula|Award}} Awards.
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''Dreamsnake'' is a 1978 ScienceFiction novel written by Creatore/VondaNMcIntyre; Creator/VondaNMcIntyre; winner of both the UsefulNotes/{{Hugo|Award}} and UsefulNotes/{{Nebula|Award}} Awards.
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* AlbinosAreFreaks: North's pathologic hatred of healers is because they could never do anything about his albinism or gigantism, traits that he hated about himself.
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* EvilAlbino: [[spoiler:North]] is a {{reconstructed|Trope}} example. His [[spoiler:pathological hatred of healers]] springs mainly from the fact that he [[spoiler:blames them for not being able to do anything about his albinism or gigantism]].
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''Dreamsnake'' is a 1978 ScienceFiction novel written by Creatore/VondaNMcIntyre; winner of both the {{Hugo|Award}} UsefulNotes/{{Hugo|Award}} and UsefulNotes/{{Nebula|Award}} Awards.
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* {{Awesome McCoolname}}: The heroine goes by "Snake." There's a [[CoolPet blatantly obvious]] explanation, but even so.
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* [[ButWeUsedACondom But I Know My Biocontrol]]: [[spoiler:The reason for Gabriel's self-imposed chastity.]]
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* [[ButWeUsedACondom ButWeUsedACondom: Well, But I Know My Biocontrol]]: Biocontrol: [[spoiler:The reason for Gabriel's self-imposed chastity.]]
