History Literature / Darkover

8th Jun '16 10:07:48 AM Ramidel
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* IJustWantToBeNormal: A DeconstructedTrope. An issue in ''The Spell Sword'' and ''The Forbidden Tower'' is the fact that Damon was expelled from Arilinn Tower and at first dislikes and distrusts his own powers, but the fact is that not using them means that ''people are going to die''. [[spoiler: He gets over this, but only at the consequence of his first love becoming a BrokenPedestal, leading him to rebel against the rules that lock matrix workers in a Tower.]]



* ItsOkayIfItsYou: Regis Hastur has a thing for Danilo Syrtis, who is very reluctant due to a major case of homophobia (preferring to maintain their current [[HeterosexualLifePartners relationship]]) until [[spoiler: Regis finally manages to get him into bed, after which he does an abrupt 180 and becomes quite possessive; it's implied that Danilo is ONLY interested in Regis to the exclusion of any other [[SingleTargetSexuality potential relationship.]]]] Also, a variant between Damon Ridenow and Andrew Carr, who are married to twin sisters. After some initial misunderstandings, Andrew and Damon have sex as part of a foursome. (We don't see whether their wives are also [[BrotherSisterIncest physically involved]] with one another, but they're most definitely emotionally and telepathically involved.)

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* ItsOkayIfItsYou: Regis Hastur has a thing for Danilo Syrtis, who is very reluctant due to a major case of homophobia (preferring to maintain their current [[HeterosexualLifePartners relationship]]) until [[spoiler: Regis finally manages to get him into bed, after which he does an abrupt 180 and becomes quite possessive; it's implied that Danilo is ONLY interested in Regis to the exclusion of any other [[SingleTargetSexuality potential relationship.]]]] Also, a variant between Damon Ridenow and Andrew Carr, who are married to twin sisters. After some initial misunderstandings, Andrew and Damon have sex as part of a foursome. (We don't see whether their wives are also [[BrotherSisterIncest physically involved]] with one another, but they're most definitely emotionally and telepathically involved.)


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* MyRuleFuIsStrongerThanYours: The Forbidden Tower operates on a mixture of this and simple AppealToForce, with an additional dose of making it up as they go along. For example, they override the laws against unregulated matrix use when Damon declares himself a Keeper (who is expressly allowed to make the rules for his own Tower, even if all the conventional towers obey Arilinn's laws), enforce that by challenging Arilinn to a WizardDuel TrialByCombat under centuries-old rules, and prevent Callista from being forced into being separated from Andrew afterward by getting her pregnant (since a woman can't be unwillingly separated from the father of her child).


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* WizardDuel: In ''The Forbidden Tower'', Arilinn and the Forbidden Tower fight a RealityWarper battle in the overworld after Damon challenges Leonie's right to issue orders to him.
8th Jun '16 9:49:47 AM Ramidel
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* HeroAntagonist: In ''The Forbidden Tower'', Leonie Hastur is just trying to do the right thing for everyone, but her actions (while reasonable and honorable) tend to be NotQuiteTheRightThing due to the extremely unusual circumstances of the novel, and that makes her the antagonist. She was responsible for screwing up Callista's sexuality (to make her better-qualified to be a Keeper), and when circumstances force Damon Ridenow to repeatedly act as a Keeper in a constant stream of emergency situations, the laws of Arilinn Tower require her to be the one who comes down on his ass.
8th Jun '16 9:47:52 AM Ramidel
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* TheBroCode: Inverted on Darkover, played straight by Terrans. As best explained in ''The Forbidden Tower'', sleeping with your sworn brother's wife if your own wife is unavailable for some reason is far better than sleeping with an unrelated woman.



* DoubleStandard: It's complicated. In general, men and women are both free to have extramarital sex, but if a child has [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe uncertain parentage]], it's embarrassing to the woman. Also, a form of gay marriage exists for women but not for men - men don't have a Renunciate organization of their own to force such a thing through. Conversely, women aren't allowed to take concubines, while men are.

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* DoubleStandard: It's complicated. In general, men and women are both free to have extramarital sex, but if a child has [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe uncertain parentage]], it's embarrassing to the woman. Also, a form of the rules for gay marriage exists for are different between women but not for and men - men don't have women can simply get freemate-married (a rule established by the Renunciates), while male partners can only [[BloodBrothers swear brotherhood]] [[note]]The Forbidden Tower is a Renunciate organization of their own polygamous foursome, but legally they're two sworn brothers married to force such a thing through.two sisters[[/note]]. Conversely, women aren't allowed to take concubines, while men are.



* TwinThreesomeFantasy: Bard and Paul give this a go with a random woman, and then give {{Twincest}} a shot...

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* TwinThreesomeFantasy: TwinThreesomeFantasy:
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Bard and Paul give this a go with a random woman, and then give {{Twincest}} a shot... shot...
** The polygamous foursome of the Forbidden Tower includes two twin sisters, and the four of them sanctify their Tower with a group sex session.
28th Mar '16 7:12:45 PM Ramidel
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* TheMagocracy: The planet is ruled by a king and seven noble houses, and the heir to those positions must have ''laran''. Subversion: those who actually specialize in the use of ''laran'' are supposed to stay in the Towers and out of government.

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* TheMagocracy: TheMagocracy:
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The planet is ruled by a king and seven noble houses, and the heir to those positions must have ''laran''. Subversion: those who actually specialize in the use of ''laran'' are supposed to stay in the Towers and out of government.government.
** The Telepathic Council is a purer example, since the requirement is to have ''laran'' potential, but Comyn ancestry is ''not'' required.
28th Mar '16 7:11:13 PM Ramidel
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* BrokenAesop: Coming of Age stories with male protagonists involve accepting duties and responsibilities even against their personal preferences. Similar stories with female protagonists on the other hand have the heroine rejecting any and all ties that impede her 'self-realization'. Magda Lorne is an especially egregious example betraying in turn; The Terran Empire, The Guild of Renunciates, the Forbidden Tower, and finally abandoning her daughters to go to the HiddenElfVillage.



* DoubleStandard: It's complicated. In general, men and women are both free to have extramarital sex, but if a child has [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe uncertain parentage]], it's embarrassing to the woman. Also, a form of gay marriage exists for women but not for men - men don't have a Renunciate organization of their own to force such a thing through. Conversely, women aren't allowed to take concubines, while men are.



* ResetButton: ''Exile's Song'' largely ignores the important evolution of Darkovan society and politics that had been clearly established in previous books. Gradual rapprochement between Darkover and the Terran Empire is no longer happening or desirable. In ''Traitor's Sun'',[[spoiler: the Terran Empire leaves and this is described as a very positive thing.]]

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* ResetButton: ''Exile's Song'' largely ignores the important evolution of Darkovan society and politics that had been clearly established in previous books. Gradual rapprochement between Darkover and the Terran Empire is no longer happening or desirable.desirable, and Regis Hastur's Telepathic Council is disbanded to make way for the return of the Comyn. In ''Traitor's Sun'',[[spoiler: the Terran Empire leaves and this is described as a very positive thing.]]


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* RoyallyScrewedUp: The Elhalyn line, who are the royalty of the Comyn, got the short end of the genetic stick and produced a lot of idiots and madmen. This led to a permanent Regency.
28th Mar '16 6:44:28 PM Ramidel
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* EverybodyWantsTheHermaphrodite: ''Nobody'' thinks that the chieri are anything less than beautiful.

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* EverybodyWantsTheHermaphrodite: ''Nobody'' thinks that the chieri chieri, who are hermaphromorphic, are anything less than beautiful. However, one ''chieri'' does have to deal with a Terran man who suffers GayPanic at the thought of having sex with her (she is female-gendered, but currently male-sexed).



* ItsOkayIfItsYou: Regis Hastur has a thing for Danilo Syrtis, who is very reluctant due to a major case of homophobia (preferring to maintain their current [[HeterosexualLifePartners relationship]]) until [[spoiler: Regis finally manages to get him into bed, after which he does an abrupt 180 and becomes quite possessive; it's implied that Danilo is ONLY interested in Regis to the exclusion of any other [[SingleTargetSexuality potential relationship.]] ]] Also, implied to be the case between Damon Ridenow and Andrew Carr, who are married to twin sisters, and maybe be more than just good friends themselves.

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* ItsOkayIfItsYou: Regis Hastur has a thing for Danilo Syrtis, who is very reluctant due to a major case of homophobia (preferring to maintain their current [[HeterosexualLifePartners relationship]]) until [[spoiler: Regis finally manages to get him into bed, after which he does an abrupt 180 and becomes quite possessive; it's implied that Danilo is ONLY interested in Regis to the exclusion of any other [[SingleTargetSexuality potential relationship.]] ]] ]]]] Also, implied to be the case a variant between Damon Ridenow and Andrew Carr, who are married to twin sisters, sisters. After some initial misunderstandings, Andrew and maybe be more than just good friends themselves.Damon have sex as part of a foursome. (We don't see whether their wives are also [[BrotherSisterIncest physically involved]] with one another, but they're most definitely emotionally and telepathically involved.)
28th Mar '16 6:36:46 PM Ramidel
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* EveryoneIsBi: Sexual orientation is pretty fluid among the Darkovans.



* ForgotAboutHisPowers: Oddly common. Many characters with ''laran'' powers often fail to use them in situations where they would have obvious value. Part of this may be due to cultural uncertainty about what is and is not acceptable outside the confines of a Tower, especially in the later ages when superstition is the norm. Terrans who know the true extent of Darkovan ''laran'' and matrix technology are often surprised at the haphazard way in which the Darkovan's use it as compared to how the more technologically-minded Terrans would if they had it.

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* ForgotAboutHisPowers: Oddly common. Many characters with ''laran'' powers often fail to use them in situations where they would have obvious value. Part of this may be due to cultural uncertainty about what is and is not acceptable outside the confines of a Tower, especially in the later ages when superstition is the norm. Terrans who know the true extent of Darkovan ''laran'' and matrix technology are often surprised at the haphazard way in which the Darkovan's use it as compared to how the more technologically-minded Terrans would if they had it. Finally, no Comyn would even consider using ''laran'' to attack, due to the Compact.
21st Jun '15 10:10:23 PM nombretomado
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* ShoutOut: One of the main families of nobles is called the "Hasturs". There is a minor family of nobles called the "Alars". There is a place called Carcosa. There is also a lake called "Lake Hali", which is misty. According to TheOtherWiki, this was a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcosa#Other_appearances deliberate shout-out]] to Robert W. Chambers' book ''TheKingInYellow'' (which also inspired parts of the CthulhuMythos).

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* ShoutOut: One of the main families of nobles is called the "Hasturs". There is a minor family of nobles called the "Alars". There is a place called Carcosa. There is also a lake called "Lake Hali", which is misty. According to TheOtherWiki, this was a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcosa#Other_appearances deliberate shout-out]] to Robert W. Chambers' book ''TheKingInYellow'' ''Literature/TheKingInYellow'' (which also inspired parts of the CthulhuMythos).
5th Jun '15 10:06:59 PM psionycx
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* FantasticRacism: The trailmen and [[CatFolk catmen]], nonhuman intelligent races on Darkover, are the subject of racism from the humans.

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* FantasticRacism: The trailmen and [[CatFolk catmen]], nonhuman intelligent races on Darkover, are the subject of racism from the humans. Averted with the ''chieri''. In rare instances where a human encounters one, they will often address the ''chieri'' as "noble one". This is partly due to the perception that the ''chieri'' are [[EvolutionaryLevels "as far above humans as trailmen are below them"]].
3rd Jun '15 2:33:50 PM roxana
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* BrokenAesop: Coming of Age stories with male protagonists involve accepting duties and responsibilities even against their personal preferences. Similar stories with female protagonists on the other hand have the heroine rejecting any and all ties that impede her 'self-realization'. Magda Lorne is an especially egregious example betraying in turn; The Terran Empire, The Guild of Renunciates, the Forbidden Tower, and finally abandoning her daughters to go to the HiddenElfVillage.
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