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* ArcWords: variations of "Ada's ardors in arbors", "Ardis' ardors in arbors", "Ada's orchids and orchards", and so on.
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** Variations of "Ardors in arbors", "Ada's ardors in arbors", "Ardis' ardors in arbors","Ada's orchids and orchards", and so on.on.
** Destroy and forget.
** Variations of "Ardors in arbors", "Ada's ardors in arbors", "Ardis' ardors in arbors",
** Destroy and forget.
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* BrickJoke: During their first summer together Ada and Van return from a bike ride "with several pauses", whereupon Ada begins scarfing down food in front of her surprised mother, who asks "how many miles [she] rode" to be so famished. Ada smiles and replies "[[OneDialogueTwoConversations only]] [[BiggerIsBetterInBed seven.]]" A decade later Lucette makes a comment regarding Van's surgical scar, "that looked to [her] at least eight inches long". Due to a nearby band playing, Van mishears what she's talking about, and "modestly" corrects her "[[GagPenis Seven and a half.]]"
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* BileFascination: In-universe. Van is devastated and enraged at the idea of Ada's unfaithfulness, but will obsessively pick at the details of her encounters and lovers.
* BrickJoke: During their first summer together Ada and Van return from a bike ride "with several pauses", whereupon Ada begins scarfing down food in front of her surprised mother, who asks "how many miles [she] rode" to be so famished. Ada smiles and replies "[[OneDialogueTwoConversations only]] [[BiggerIsBetterInBed seven.]]" A decade later Lucette makes a comment regarding Van's surgical scar, "that looked to [her] at least eight inches long".Due to a nearby band playing, Van mishears what she's talking about, due to music playing nearby and "modestly" corrects her "[[GagPenis Seven and a half.]]"
* BrickJoke: During their first summer together Ada and Van return from a bike ride "with several pauses", whereupon Ada begins scarfing down food in front of her surprised mother, who asks "how many miles [she] rode" to be so famished. Ada smiles and replies "[[OneDialogueTwoConversations only]] [[BiggerIsBetterInBed seven.]]" A decade later Lucette makes a comment regarding Van's surgical scar, "that looked to [her] at least eight inches long".
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* BungledSuicide: Van tries to shoot himself after his father warns him to stop his romance with Ada. However, the gun fails to fire.
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* BungledSuicide: BungledSuicide:
** Van tries to shoot himself after his father warns him to stop his romance with Ada. However, the gun fails tofire.fire.
** [[spoiler: Lucette]] does succeed, but fails to make it as quick as she intended (mixing drugs and alcohol to drown unconscious; but she doesn't take enough to do so immediately).
** Van tries to shoot himself after his father warns him to stop his romance with Ada. However, the gun fails to
** [[spoiler: Lucette]] does succeed, but fails to make it as quick as she intended (mixing drugs and alcohol to drown unconscious; but she doesn't take enough to do so immediately).
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-->''Ada:'' "I have to admit... that [[{{Understatement}} the splendid plan is a foozle.]]"
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* IHaveThisFriend: Ada pulls off a double-screening of this. When Van notices she's sad after they reunite, she preludes the reason with a "parable", and describes the plot of a film wherein the heroine struggles between two inadequate lovers and her one true love; then she explains this parallels her struggle to decide the three courses she can see her life going. In reality, the "plot" is ''her'' current situation, told in such a way as to admit to, gives reasons and excuses toward, and plead Van's understanding and forgiveness for her affairs, "telling him everything, him not realizing she had".
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* InterruptedIntimacy: Lucette as a child frequently and deliberately interrupts Van and Ada's lovemaking.
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* InterruptedIntimacy: Lucette as a child frequently and deliberately interrupts Van and Ada's lovemaking. Happens again after the latters' third reunion, opening a door to be greeted by Van's hairy ass. Ada and Lucette themselves are caught occasionally.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: To a degree. Van is quite a {{Jerkass}} to most people, elitist, condescending, lecherous, etc., but he loves his sisters and father.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: To a degree. Van is quite a {{Jerkass}} to most people, elitist, condescending, lecherous, etc., but he loves his sisters and father.
* PervertParent: Lucette offhandedly mentions that Dan Deen could get handsy with her at times.
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* ParentalIncest: Mention is made of a man who impregnates his 5-year-old granddaughter ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex while asleep]], supposedly). Five years later, he impregnates the resulting girl, again supposedly while asleep.
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* ParentalIncest: ParentalIncest:
** Mention is made of a man who impregnates his 5-year-old granddaughter ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex while asleep]], supposedly). Five years later, he impregnates the resulting girl, again supposedly whileasleep.asleep.
** Lucette implies that Dan Deen would try to molest her, though she managed to warn him off.
* {{Pun}}: Pops up now and then. At one point Ada claims to have erotomania for which the cure is "extract of scarlet aril, the flesh of yew, just only yew". Lucette, on meeting Van's lover Mlle. Condor, pulls a French one by emphasizing the first syllable ("con d'or" means "[[CountryMatters golden cunt]]").
** Mention is made of a man who impregnates his 5-year-old granddaughter ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex while asleep]], supposedly). Five years later, he impregnates the resulting girl, again supposedly while
** Lucette implies that Dan Deen would try to molest her, though she managed to warn him off.
* {{Pun}}: Pops up now and then. At one point Ada claims to have erotomania for which the cure is "extract of scarlet aril, the flesh of yew, just only yew". Lucette, on meeting Van's lover Mlle. Condor, pulls a French one by emphasizing the first syllable ("con d'or" means "[[CountryMatters golden cunt]]").
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* ReplacementGoldfish: During Van and Ada's second separation, Ada makes ''Lucette'' her primary sexual partner.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: ReplacementGoldfish:
** During Van and Ada's second separation, Ada makes ''Lucette'' her primary sexualpartner. partner.
** Van became one for Aqua after she miscarried.
** During Van and Ada's second separation, Ada makes ''Lucette'' her primary sexual
** Van became one for Aqua after she miscarried.
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-->''Van:'' “In other more deeply moral worlds than this pellet of muck, there might exist restraints, principles, transcendental consolations, and even a certain pride in making happy someone one does not really love; but on this planet [[spoiler: Lucettes]] are doomed.”
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* UnusualEuphamism: The book is ''filled'' with them. Much of the "gory details" (and the plot is considerably gory) are wrapped in poetic language, subtle symbolism, obscure references, etc.
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* UnusualEuphamism: UnusualEuphemism: The book is ''filled'' with them. Much of the "gory details" (and the plot is considerably gory) are wrapped in poetic language, subtle symbolism, obscure references, etc.
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* ArcWords: variations of "Ada's ardors in arbors", "Ardis' ardors in arbors", "Ada's orchids and orchards", and so on.
* LawOfInverseFertility: Averted, to the sex-crazed siblings' delight. After an unofficial diagnosis by two gypsy mistresses (who it's implied can somehow tell based on, ah... taste), Van gets tested and discovers he's completely sterile. It's also implied to be the result of they themselves being slightly inbred.
* RefugeInAudacity: When Van discovers his "aunt" suspects his relationship with ''Lucette'' and not at all with Ada, he brazenly mentions he had his first girl at fourteen (the age he met Ada) and describes her exactly like Ada. [[ObliviousToHints It flies over Marina's head.]]
* SomethingElseAlsoRises: At one point an erection is implied by the passage of a clockhand from 9 to 12.
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* TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth: Van's final opinion of [[spoiler: Lucette]].
-->''Van:'' “In other more deeply moral worlds than this pellet of muck, there might exist restraints, principles, transcendental consolations, and even a certain pride in making happy someone one does not really love; but on this planet [[spoiler: Lucettes]] are doomed.”
* TheUnfavorite: Lucette toVanVan.
* UnusualEuphamism: The book is ''filled'' with them. Much of the "gory details" (and the plot is considerably gory) are wrapped in poetic language, subtle symbolism, obscure references, etc.
* VisualInnuendo: After a four-year separation Van and Ada's first time occurs by a bathtub. She seeks the nozzles for support and accidentally turns them, causing full-force blasts of water at the same time Van... [[TheImmodestOrgasm you know.]]
-->''Van:'' “In other more deeply moral worlds than this pellet of muck, there might exist restraints, principles, transcendental consolations, and even a certain pride in making happy someone one does not really love; but on this planet [[spoiler: Lucettes]] are doomed.”
* TheUnfavorite: Lucette to
* UnusualEuphamism: The book is ''filled'' with them. Much of the "gory details" (and the plot is considerably gory) are wrapped in poetic language, subtle symbolism, obscure references, etc.
* VisualInnuendo: After a four-year separation Van and Ada's first time occurs by a bathtub. She seeks the nozzles for support and accidentally turns them, causing full-force blasts of water at the same time Van... [[TheImmodestOrgasm you know.]]
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* BerserkButton: The idea of Ada being unfaithful sends Van practically frothing. When an anonymous servant leaves a note implying the possibility, he dismisses the idea of learning more by "torturing the males, raping the females"... which, in itself, reveals the idea wasn't far from his mind.
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* SecretKeeper: The household staff of Ardis - bar the more oblivious members - quickly realize what's going on between Van and Ada, and most keep quiet or even occasionally assist them; it's implied that some even know they're siblings rather than cousins. Averted with Kim the cook, however, who secretly photos some of their encounters and attempts to blackmail them.
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* SecretKeeper: The household staff of Ardis - bar the more oblivious members - quickly realize what's going on between Van and Ada, and most keep quiet or even occasionally assist them; it's implied that some even know they're siblings rather than cousins. Averted with Kim the cook, however, who secretly photos photographs some of their encounters and attempts to blackmail them.
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* TheLostLenore: Ada and Van come to see [[spoiler: Lucette]] as this. The former reflects years afterward that ideally Van should have married her and the three of them live in bliss at Ardis Hall.
* OpenSecret: Ada eventually learns that she and Van's amorous adventures had essentially become a local legend across the countryside around Ardis Hall. Far from finding it scandalous, it's actually considered fascinating and romantic; Ada revels in this, but Van is understandably concerned.
* SecretKeeper: The household staff of Ardis - bar the more oblivious members - quickly realize what's going on between Van and Ada, and most keep quiet or even occasionally assist them; it's implied that some even know they're siblings rather than cousins. Averted with Kim the cook, however, who secretly photos some of their encounters and attempts to blackmail them.
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* ThreeWaySexThreeWaySex: Ada coerces Lucette into bed with her and Van at one point. It's not a very ideal situation: Lucette is reluctant, the only contact between her and Van is facilitated by Ada, there's an implication Ada is emphasizing that Van belongs to her alone, and Lucette is more anguished and lovesick than ever afterward.
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* BrickJoke: During their first summer together Ada and Van return from a bike ride "with several pauses", whereupon Ada begins scarfing down food in front of her surprised mother, who asks "how many miles [she] rode" to be so famished. Ada smiles and replies "[[OneDialogueTwoConversations only]][[BiggerIsBetterInBed seven.]]" A decade later Lucette makes a comment regarding Van's surgical scar, "that looked to [her] at least eight inches long". Due to a nearby band playing, Van mishears what she's talking about, and "modestly" corrects her "[[GagPenis Seven and a half.]]"
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* BrickJoke: During their first summer together Ada and Van return from a bike ride "with several pauses", whereupon Ada begins scarfing down food in front of her surprised mother, who asks "how many miles [she] rode" to be so famished. Ada smiles and replies "[[OneDialogueTwoConversations only]][[BiggerIsBetterInBed only]] [[BiggerIsBetterInBed seven.]]" A decade later Lucette makes a comment regarding Van's surgical scar, "that looked to [her] at least eight inches long". Due to a nearby band playing, Van mishears what she's talking about, and "modestly" corrects her "[[GagPenis Seven and a half.]]"
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* BrickJoke: During their first summer together Ada and Van return from a bike ride "with several pauses", whereupon Ada begins scarfing down food in front of her surprised mother, who asks "how many miles [she] rode" to be so famished. Ada smiles and replies "[[OneDialogueTwoConversations only]][[BiggerIsBetterInBed seven.]]" A decade later Lucette makes a comment regarding Van's surgical scar, "that looked to [her] at least eight inches long". Due to a nearby band playing, Van mishears what she's talking about, and "modestly" corrects her "[[GagPenis Seven and a half.]]"
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* DidNotThinkThisThrough: Ada's plan to keep the pubescent Lucette from bothering them and satisfy her interest in Van "was not simple, was not clever, and moreover worked the wrong way". It involved “petting her in Ada’s presence, while kissing Ada at the same time, and by caressing and kissing Lucette when Ada was away”. Lucette's crush develops into a life-long obsession, and Van outright wonders if Ada did it on purpose.
-->''Ada:'' "I have to admit... that [[{{Understatement}} the splendid plan is a foozle.]]"
-->''Ada:'' "I have to admit... that [[{{Understatement}} the splendid plan is a foozle.]]"
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* NeverMyFault: Ada can engage in this occasionally. When her (terrible) plan to keep Lucette away by ''petting and kissing'' her backfires she blames Van for encouraging Lucette's affection. And when trying to explain her unfaithfulness she blames Van ("I don't accuse you!") for triggering an uncontrollable sex drive.
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* ReplacementGoldfish: During Van and Ada's second separation, Ada makes ''Lucette'' her primary sexual partner.
* RevengePornBlackmail: Kim, a former member of the Ardis household with a hobby in photography, demands $1000 from Ada in exchange for a photo album containing, among other things, pictures of she and Van making love. Van correctly guesses that Kim has further evidence to further extort them with, so has Kim tracked down, brutally beaten, and the pictures destroyed.
* RevengePornBlackmail: Kim, a former member of the Ardis household with a hobby in photography, demands $1000 from Ada in exchange for a photo album containing, among other things, pictures of she and Van making love. Van correctly guesses that Kim has further evidence to further extort them with, so has Kim tracked down, brutally beaten, and the pictures destroyed.
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* SexualExtortion: Ada claims to Van that her affair with Percy de Prey was conducted under threat of his revealing their own relationship. She might have resisted anyway if they were merely cousins as the public believes, but the idea of their ''parents'' finding out made her acquiesce.
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* LecherousLicking: At one point before their romance proper begins Ada mentions having a "real tower" moment (three "real things" bringing her pleasure at once). One is the honey she's having with breakfast; the second, an interesting wasp to study. When Van asks after the third, she merely looks at him and begins licking honey off her fingers. [[ObliviousToHints He doesn't get it and walks away.]]
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He is pampered, arrogant and fastidious, but the book presents him as a genius, not as a Ditz.
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* UpperClassTwit: Pampered, arrogant and fastidious Van Veen.
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* NakedOnArrival: Ada and Van are both naked in their first appearance in the book, exploring the attic of Ardis Hall together.
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* DrivenToSuicide: Lucette.
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* EveryoneHasLotsOfSex.
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* EveryoneHasLotsOfSex.
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* DrivenToSuicide: Lucette.
**DirectLineToTheAuthor: The book purports to be the dictated memoirs of Ivan Veen (the main character), with assistance from Ada. There's also an appendix by [[SignificantAnagram "Vivian Darkbloom"]].
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* LiteraryAgentHypothesis: The book purports to be the dictated memoirs of Ivan Veen (the main character), with assistance from Ada. There's also an appendix by [[SignificantAnagram "Vivian Darkbloom"]].
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''Ada, or Ardor: a Family Chronicle'' is a 1969 novel by Creator/VladimirNabokov, taking the form of the long[[note]]Nabokov's longest novel, in fact[[/note]] memoirs of a psychiatrist around 1967 looking back at his 97 years of life. Rather than his career or philosophical thinking, however, the bulk of it concerns his over 80-year-long love affair with his cousin (actually sister), Ada from the title.
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''Ada, or Ardor: a Family Chronicle'' is a 1969 novel by Creator/VladimirNabokov, taking the form of the long[[note]]Nabokov's longest novel, in fact[[/note]] memoirs of a psychiatrist around 1967 looking back at his 97 years of life. Rather than his career or philosophical thinking, however, the bulk of it concerns his over 80-year-long love affair with his cousin "cousin" (actually sister), Ada from the title.
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* RussiaIsWestern: Most of the world is ruled by a Russo-Anglo-American dominion (North America is settled extensively by Russians, and Russian is one of its languages, along with English and French). They are fighting the Golden Horde in this world's version of the Cold War.
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* WellExcuseMePrincess: Van and Ada find each other annoying at first. Van's feeling start to change when he slips while climbing a tree and his face lands on Ada's crotch.
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* WellExcuseMePrincess: Van and Ada find each other annoying at first. Van's feeling feelings start to change when he slips while climbing a tree tree, and his face lands on Ada's crotch.
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* MyGirlIsNotASlut: Van is hurt and bothered by Ada's affairs, whereas he sees no problem with his own. Of course, in all fairness, she had many more, hers were continuous whereas his were on-and-off and she [[BlatantLies"blatantly lied"]] about them.
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* MyGirlIsNotASlut: Van is hurt and bothered by Ada's affairs, whereas he sees no problem with his own. Of course, in all fairness, she had many more, hers were continuous whereas his were on-and-off and she [[BlatantLies"blatantly lied"]] [[BlatantLies blatantly lied]] about them.
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* AlternateHistory: Most of the world is under Anglo-American dominion, with the notable exception of Tartary, and electrical power is taboo, just for a start. The Golden Horde still rules, so it can be inferred that the point of divergence was in the 14th century, but this is unsure.
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* AlternateHistory: [[TruthInTelevision Most of the world is under Anglo-American dominion, dominion]], with the notable exception of Tartary, and electrical power is taboo, just for a start. The Golden Horde still rules, so it can be inferred that the point of divergence was in the 14th century, but this is unsure.
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''Ada, or Ardor: a Family Chronicle'' is a 1969 novel by Creator/VladimirNabokov, taking the form of the long[[note]]Nabokov's longest novel, in fact[[/note]] memoirs of a psychiatrist around 1967 looking back at his 97 years of life. Rather than his career or philosophical thinking, however, the bulk of it concerns his over 80-year-long love affair with his cousin (actually sister), the eponymous Ada.
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''Ada, or Ardor: a Family Chronicle'' is a 1969 novel by Creator/VladimirNabokov, taking the form of the long[[note]]Nabokov's longest novel, in fact[[/note]] memoirs of a psychiatrist around 1967 looking back at his 97 years of life. Rather than his career or philosophical thinking, however, the bulk of it concerns his over 80-year-long love affair with his cousin (actually sister), Ada from the eponymous Ada.title.
* KinkySpanking: Ada suggests Van that he should spank Lucette when she is being particularly annoying. Lucette is very disappointed when Van refuses to.
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* SpankTheCutie: Ada suggests Van do this to Lucette when the latter is being particularly annoying. Lucette is very disappointed when Van refuses to.
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* MyGirlIsNotASlut: Van is at one point quite hurt by Ada's affairs, while seeing no problem with the fact that he has far more.
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* MyGirlIsNotASlut: Van is at one point quite hurt and bothered by Ada's affairs, while seeing whereas he sees no problem with the fact that he has far more.his own. Of course, in all fairness, she had many more, hers were continuous whereas his were on-and-off and she [[BlatantLies"blatantly lied"]] about them.
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* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: Religion exists, but it's much less popular and treated far more disdainfully than in reality. Marina, admittely not very smart, is even unaware that Judaism predates Christianity.
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* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: Religion exists, but it's much less popular and treated far more disdainfully than in reality. Marina, admittely admittedly not very smart, is even unaware that Judaism predates Christianity.