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9th Feb '18 6:09:02 AM kuchiki222
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** For Walt, [[MoralEventHorizon but not for audiences]], in "Ozymandias." After realizing that [[spoiler:Skyler and Walt Jr. had truly turned against him, he proceeded to kidnap the one family member he didn't believe could turn against him because she supposedly didn't know anything--his infant daughter Holly. But on the road, Walt sadly discovered that he was wrong when she started [[IWantMyMommy crying for "Mama."]] [[HeelRealization This made him realize he had gone too far.]] And it was still a terrible thing to do, even if it didn't turn out to be in vain and Holly hadn't turned against him.]]

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** For Hank, Jesse and Gomez and perhaps even Walt himself in the events of "Tohaijilee" and "Ozymandias". After [[spoiler: successfully baiting Walt to get to his money, the trio corner him and arrest him, and Hank even personally calls Marie to inform they got Walt. 5 minutes later, Walt's 'backup' arrives, armed to the teeth, and corner Hank and Gomez. The resulting shootout leaves [[KilledOffscreen Gomez dead]], Hank seriously injured, and Jesse hiding below Walt's car. Walt negotiates in vain to save Hank, [[BoomHeadshot who is killed by Jack soon after]], and Jesse is captured beneath Walt's car and MadeASlave to Jack's gang. Oh, and it is at this point, Walt, [[MoralEventHorizon but not for audiences]], livid with Jesse's role in "Ozymandias." snitching against him, which led to the shootout in the first place, [[KickTheSonOfABitch decides to break the truth about Jane's death]]. The trio went [[MoodWhiplash from utterly victorious to dead and ruined]].]] ''And after that...''
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After realizing that [[spoiler:Skyler and Walt Jr. had truly turned against him, he proceeded Walt proceeds to kidnap the one family member he didn't believe could turn against him because she supposedly didn't know anything--his infant daughter Holly. But on the road, Walt sadly discovered that he was wrong when she started [[IWantMyMommy crying for "Mama."]] [[HeelRealization This made him realize he had gone too far.]] And it was [[MoralEventHorizon still a terrible thing to do, do]], even if it didn't turn out to be in vain and Holly hadn't turned against him.]] '''[[FromBadToWorse And still after that...]]'''
** In "Granite State", [[spoiler: Jesse nearly escapes the Aryan compound, after fooling Todd, not noticing the camera on the boundary. During his moment of escape, he is captured again. Todd and Jack drive Jesse to Andrea's house, where Todd lures her out on pretext of Jesse's information. When Andrea is in clear view of Jesse, he panics as he tries ''desperately'' to save her. Todd shoots her quickly, with Jack warning Jesse another such attempt will lead to Brock's death. [[ForcedToWatch Jesse's breakdown]] [[TearJerker really seals the deal.]]
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3rd Feb '18 4:47:33 PM nombretomado
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* ''NewTricks'': Rare example of a villain getting this from the pilot episode; a vicious, psychotic gangster has been released from jail following an appeal of his conviction for the murder of a barmaid two decades beforehand. He and his friends are celebrating in a posh restaurant when the main characters enter the restaurant to officially and publicly announce that [=DNA=] evidence has cleared him of the murder he was convicted for. The entire room begins to celebrate... moments before more police officers flood in to arrest him for another murder two decades ago that same [=DNA=] evidence can now conclusively prove he ''did'' do. [[spoiler:Oh, and turned out his wife murdered the barmaid under the mistaken impression she was having an affair with her husband.]]

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* ''NewTricks'': ''Series/NewTricks'': Rare example of a villain getting this from the pilot episode; a vicious, psychotic gangster has been released from jail following an appeal of his conviction for the murder of a barmaid two decades beforehand. He and his friends are celebrating in a posh restaurant when the main characters enter the restaurant to officially and publicly announce that [=DNA=] evidence has cleared him of the murder he was convicted for. The entire room begins to celebrate... moments before more police officers flood in to arrest him for another murder two decades ago that same [=DNA=] evidence can now conclusively prove he ''did'' do. [[spoiler:Oh, and turned out his wife murdered the barmaid under the mistaken impression she was having an affair with her husband.]]
19th Jan '18 11:20:38 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [[TortureTechnician Ramsay Snow]] deliberately creates these situations, [[GenreSavvy understanding that providing the illusion of hope and then ripping it away at the last minute is far more psychologically damaging than providing no hope at all.]] This could be something as simple pouring water out in front of someone dehydrated, or as complex as [[spoiler:acting like a friend and helping them escape, only to lead them right back to more torture, as he did with Theon. While still pretending to be Yara's agent and pretending he's escorting Theon to her, he listens to Theon reflect out loud on everything that brought him to this point. By the end, Theon's so overwhelmed with guilt and regret that he's fighting back tears. "Maybe it's not too late," Ramsay tells him. Theon says that it is, that he made the wrong choice, and he's burned everything down. "Not everything, my lord," says Ramsay, the implication being "You still have your sister, who sent me to rescue you. You're safe and free now." And ''then'' he leads Theon back into the torture chamber and reveals it was all a lie.]]

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** [[TortureTechnician Ramsay Snow]] deliberately creates these situations, [[GenreSavvy understanding that providing the illusion of hope and then ripping it away at the last minute is far more psychologically damaging than providing no hope at all.]] all. This could be something as simple pouring water out in front of someone dehydrated, or as complex as [[spoiler:acting like a friend and helping them escape, only to lead them right back to more torture, as he did with Theon. While still pretending to be Yara's agent and pretending he's escorting Theon to her, he listens to Theon reflect out loud on everything that brought him to this point. By the end, Theon's so overwhelmed with guilt and regret that he's fighting back tears. "Maybe it's not too late," Ramsay tells him. Theon says that it is, that he made the wrong choice, and he's burned everything down. "Not everything, my lord," says Ramsay, the implication being "You still have your sister, who sent me to rescue you. You're safe and free now." And ''then'' he leads Theon back into the torture chamber and reveals it was all a lie.]]



* ''Series/GreysAnatomy'': One episode had a main character finally wake up from being in a coma for a few months. Everyone is happy, though of them note that it's not unheard of for people in comas to wake up and have one final burst of energy ("the surge") before dying. Everyone denies it's the surge, saying he's going to be fine, because they don't want it to be true, though the patient [[GenreSavvy knows he is going to die]] and plans accordingly. To the viewers, it's a ForegoneConclusion, since he [[AnachronicOrder died the episode before]] after slipping back into a coma and being taken off of life support after 30 days (as he requested).

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* ''Series/GreysAnatomy'': One episode had a main character finally wake up from being in a coma for a few months. Everyone is happy, though of them note that it's not unheard of for people in comas to wake up and have one final burst of energy ("the surge") before dying. Everyone denies it's the surge, saying he's going to be fine, because they don't want it to be true, though the patient [[GenreSavvy knows he is going to die]] die and plans accordingly. To the viewers, it's a ForegoneConclusion, since he [[AnachronicOrder died the episode before]] after slipping back into a coma and being taken off of life support after 30 days (as he requested).
14th Nov '17 9:33:04 AM xcountryguy
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** Day 3? If anything you'd think the first finale had to be the most infamous/cruel one in the series. Think about it: after enduring hell for the past 24 hours, [[spoiler: Jack has finally killed the BigBad of the season, gotten [[TheMole Nina Meyers]] arrested, and reunited with his daughter Kim. Then he heads into the room where his wife is being held... and breaks down upon discovering that Nina had shot her minutes before and she's bled to death. No, Jack. There isn't going to be any happy ending for you.]]

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** Day 3? If anything you'd think the The first finale had to be the most infamous/cruel one in the series. Think about it: after After enduring hell for the past 24 hours, [[spoiler: Jack [[spoiler:Jack has finally killed the BigBad of the season, gotten [[TheMole Nina Meyers]] arrested, and reunited with his daughter Kim. Then he heads into the room where his wife is being held... and breaks down upon discovering that Nina had shot her minutes before and she's bled to death. No, Jack. There isn't going to be any happy ending for you.]]



** Day 9: [[spoiler: At the end of the previous hour Big Bad Cheng Zhi has an assassin pin Jack's old flame Audrey down with a sniper rifle and threatens to have her executed if Jack continues pursuing him. CIA agent Kate Morgan manages to successfully infiltrate the place that Audrey's being held hostage in and kill the sniper... only for a ''second'' hitman to show up moments later and get a lucky shot off, killing Audrey.]]

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** Day 9: [[spoiler: At [[spoiler:At the end of the previous hour Big Bad Cheng Zhi has an assassin pin Jack's old flame Audrey down with a sniper rifle and threatens to have her executed if Jack continues pursuing him. CIA agent Kate Morgan manages to successfully infiltrate the place that Audrey's being held hostage in and kill the sniper... only for a ''second'' hitman to show up moments later and get a lucky shot off, killing Audrey.]]



* ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'': The midseason finale of Season Four. [[spoiler: The humans and Cylons have put aside their differences and found Earth together. Cue exulting music. Oh wait, Earth is a nuclear wasteland and has been for two thousand years.]]

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* ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'': The midseason finale of Season Four. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The humans and Cylons have put aside their differences and found Earth together. Cue exulting music. Oh wait, Earth is a nuclear wasteland and has been for two thousand years.]]



** Later PlayedForDrama in one season 6 episode. Shawn's father is back in town, suffers a heart attack and after much drama and anguish the man promises his boys that he'll stick around from now on and they'll be a family. [[spoiler: And then he dies.]]

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** Later PlayedForDrama in one season 6 episode. Shawn's father is back in town, suffers a heart attack and after much drama and anguish the man promises his boys that he'll stick around from now on and they'll be a family. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And then he dies.]]



** The series 4 finale, the Daleks are defeated yet again, and the Doctor finds himself surrounded by all of his companions and friends from the start of the new series including Rose, who he thought he would never see again. Everything is shiny and full of laughs for the next few minutes until [[spoiler: half of them go home, Rose is left in a parallel dimension with the Doctor's clone, and Donna gets brain-wiped.]] The last few scenes show the Doctor cold and wet, staring ahead blankly in the TARDIS, completely alone again.
** "Voyage of the Damned" has another powerful one. Astrid has driven herself off a precipice into the ship's reactor in order to off the BigBad. As the Doctor returns to the other survivors, he is reminded that she was wearing a teleport bracelet with a system for rescuing passengers who run into trouble with it on. [[spoiler: So he attempts to recall her... only to find that the system does not have enough power, and all that's left of her is constituent particles in her image, which he has to disperse. Hell of a TearJerker.]]
** "The End of Time" is ''very'' mean about its Hope Spots. The Doctor has just saved the Earth and possibly the universe from the opening of the sealed time bubble and the return of Gallifrey, and he's still alive, despite thinking that The Master's return was what was supposed to have killed him. Then [[spoiler: he hears a sound...four knocks, from Wilfred, on the inside of the flood chamber for the radiation, which The Doctor will activate if he lets Wilfred out, spilling the radiation on him...the entire rest of the special is a class one TearJerker through and through.]]

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** The series 4 finale, the Daleks are defeated yet again, and the Doctor finds himself surrounded by all of his companions and friends from the start of the new series including Rose, who he thought he would never see again. Everything is shiny and full of laughs for the next few minutes until [[spoiler: half [[spoiler:half of them go home, Rose is left in a parallel dimension with the Doctor's clone, and Donna gets brain-wiped.]] The last few scenes show the Doctor cold and wet, staring ahead blankly in the TARDIS, completely alone again.
** "Voyage of the Damned" has another powerful one. Astrid has driven herself off a precipice into the ship's reactor in order to off the BigBad. As the Doctor returns to the other survivors, he is reminded that she was wearing a teleport bracelet with a system for rescuing passengers who run into trouble with it on. [[spoiler: So [[spoiler:So he attempts to recall her... only to find that the system does not have enough power, and all that's left of her is constituent particles in her image, which he has to disperse. Hell of a TearJerker.]]
** "The End of Time" is ''very'' mean about its Hope Spots. The Doctor has just saved the Earth and possibly the universe from the opening of the sealed time bubble and the return of Gallifrey, and he's still alive, despite thinking that The Master's return was what was supposed to have killed him. Then [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he hears a sound...sound... four knocks, from Wilfred, on the inside of the flood chamber for the radiation, which The Doctor will activate if he lets Wilfred out, spilling the radiation on him...him... the entire rest of the special is a class one TearJerker through and through.]]



** A particularly nasty and heart-wrenching example from "The Angels Take Manhattan"... [[spoiler: Rory and Amy have jumped to their supposed deaths]] to create a temporal paradox to poison the Weeping Angels' food supply. The paradox puts them back where they started the adventure, ready to head out with The Doctor and River on a family voyage, until [[spoiler:Rory is distracted by his own gravestone and is sent back in time by a weeping angel and Amy goes with him. And thanks to the paradox, the TARDIS can't go their time/place, so the Doctor and River will never see them again.]]

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** A particularly nasty and heart-wrenching example from "The Angels Take Manhattan"... [[spoiler: Rory [[spoiler:Rory and Amy have jumped to their supposed deaths]] to create a temporal paradox to poison the Weeping Angels' food supply. The paradox puts them back where they started the adventure, ready to head out with The Doctor and River on a family voyage, until [[spoiler:Rory is distracted by his own gravestone and is sent back in time by a weeping angel and Amy goes with him. And thanks to the paradox, the TARDIS can't go their time/place, so the Doctor and River will never see them again.]]



** "Face the Raven"'s climax has several of these when it's revealed that Clara [[spoiler: MUST die by quantum shade in the next few minutes]] thanks to her too-confident efforts to save Rigsy. She's still confident that the Doctor can fix this situation by finding another way to [[spoiler: remove the chronolock]]...but he can't. He angrily threatens the mayor responsible for Rigsy's situation with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against them ''and'' all the trap street residents if this isn't fixed immediately...but Clara talks him out of it (because he would cross the MoralEventHorizon if he did) '''and''' asks if there's ''anything'' that can be done in the first place -- there isn't. Thus, [[spoiler: Clara dies a painful death]] while the Doctor is delivered to what turns out to be a torture chamber and begins a ProtagonistJourneyToVillain that unfolds over the next two episodes, culminating in the events of...
** "Hell Bent". The Doctor has become a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds thanks to this TraumaCongaLine and via BatmanGambit manages to [[spoiler: pull Clara out of time at the moment of her death, violating a fixed moment in time]]. He's overjoyed at the prospect of new adventures, brainstorming wacky new ideas like "cocktails with Moses" and inventing a flying submarine -- but then he learns that [[spoiler: she isn't fully returning to life]]...and the universe may well start falling apart soon, and it will be all his fault. He doesn't give up his quest just yet, but several conversations later he has a HeelRealization and accepts that his desire to [[spoiler: staying with her forever]] is just a TragicDream that he must give up. Ultimately, [[spoiler: Clara is able to continue "living" in her not-quite-dead state for as long as she likes, but this is technically not a hope spot as she is well aware that some day she will have to voluntarily return to the point of her death.]]

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** "Face the Raven"'s climax has several of these when it's revealed that Clara [[spoiler: MUST [[spoiler:MUST die by quantum shade in the next few minutes]] thanks to her too-confident efforts to save Rigsy. She's still confident that the Doctor can fix this situation by finding another way to [[spoiler: remove [[spoiler:remove the chronolock]]...chronolock]]... but he can't. He angrily threatens the mayor responsible for Rigsy's situation with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against them ''and'' all the trap street residents if this isn't fixed immediately...but Clara talks him out of it (because he would cross the MoralEventHorizon if he did) '''and''' asks if there's ''anything'' that can be done in the first place -- there isn't. Thus, [[spoiler: Clara [[spoiler:Clara dies a painful death]] while the Doctor is delivered to what turns out to be a torture chamber and begins a ProtagonistJourneyToVillain that unfolds over the next two episodes, culminating in the events of...
** "Hell Bent". The Doctor has become a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds thanks to this TraumaCongaLine and via BatmanGambit manages to [[spoiler: pull [[spoiler:pull Clara out of time at the moment of her death, violating a fixed moment in time]]. He's overjoyed at the prospect of new adventures, brainstorming wacky new ideas like "cocktails with Moses" and inventing a flying submarine -- but then he learns that [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she isn't fully returning to life]]...life]]... and the universe may well start falling apart soon, and it will be all his fault. He doesn't give up his quest just yet, but several conversations later he has a HeelRealization and accepts that his desire to [[spoiler: staying [[spoiler:staying with her forever]] is just a TragicDream that he must give up. Ultimately, [[spoiler: Clara [[spoiler:Clara is able to continue "living" in her not-quite-dead state for as long as she likes, but this is technically not a hope spot as she is well aware that some day she will have to voluntarily return to the point of her death.]]



* ''Series/FlashForward2009'': The episode after [[spoiler:Al Gough [[ScrewDestiny screws destiny]]]] begins with a montage of the world and the main characters being optimistic after learning that [[spoiler: the future can be changed]].
* ''Series/{{Forbrydelsen}}'': The cops finally work out who the murder victim was having an affair with, and the man in question immediately becomes the chief suspect. He takes prisoner the central character (a detective) using her gun, and tells her that he couldn't kill anyone, but then the detective's partner shows up. There's a standoff, which is ended when the partner shoots the suspect. All the evidence points to the suspect, and the victim's family, which has been tearing itself apart, finally comes back together in a tearful reunion. [[spoiler: Trouble is, while the suspect was indeed having an affair with the victim, he really didn't kill her. The revelation of who did kill her will finally destroy the family.]]

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* ''Series/FlashForward2009'': The episode after [[spoiler:Al Gough [[ScrewDestiny screws destiny]]]] begins with a montage of the world and the main characters being optimistic after learning that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the future can be changed]].
* ''Series/{{Forbrydelsen}}'': The cops finally work out who the murder victim was having an affair with, and the man in question immediately becomes the chief suspect. He takes prisoner the central character (a detective) using her gun, and tells her that he couldn't kill anyone, but then the detective's partner shows up. There's a standoff, which is ended when the partner shoots the suspect. All the evidence points to the suspect, and the victim's family, which has been tearing itself apart, finally comes back together in a tearful reunion. [[spoiler: Trouble [[spoiler:Trouble is, while the suspect was indeed having an affair with the victim, he really didn't kill her. The revelation of who did kill her will finally destroy the family.]]



** In season 4 Tyrion has been accused of murdering [[spoiler: Joffrey]]. The people still loyal to him are powerless to stop his conviction so Tyrion chooses Trial by Combat as a final TakeThat to his father. It looks like Tyrion will be killed by The Mountain in the duel when [[spoiler: Oberyn Martell]] offers to be Tyrion's champion. During the duel it soon becomes clear that The Mountain is losing and with his death Tyrion will be exonerated. Then [[spoiler: right before delivering the final blow, Oberyn gets careless and The Mountain grabs him and crashes his skull with his bare hands. With his champion dead, Tyrion is pronounced guilty and sentenced to death.]]

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** In season 4 Tyrion has been accused of murdering [[spoiler: Joffrey]].[[spoiler:Joffrey]]. The people still loyal to him are powerless to stop his conviction so Tyrion chooses Trial by Combat as a final TakeThat to his father. It looks like Tyrion will be killed by The Mountain in the duel when [[spoiler: Oberyn [[spoiler:Oberyn Martell]] offers to be Tyrion's champion. During the duel it soon becomes clear that The Mountain is losing and with his death Tyrion will be exonerated. Then [[spoiler: right [[spoiler:right before delivering the final blow, Oberyn gets careless and The Mountain grabs him and crashes his skull with his bare hands. With his champion dead, Tyrion is pronounced guilty and sentenced to death.]]



** There's also the bizarre double case in which Locke, [[spoiler: after causing Boone's death, goes to the hatch and begins banging on the door and screaming. This causes Desmond, who was in the hatch, to abandon his suicide attempt because he thought Locke was his new button pressing partner. Desmond shines a light up through the hatch door just as Locke is screaming at the island to give him a sign. Of course, Locke turns out to not be Desmond's new partner and, when he finally gets into the hatch, the computer winds up getting shot, which causes Desmond to both panic and go into a deeper depression than before. Locke goes on to destroy the computer that gave him so much hope and purpose after he loses faith it. Later on, Locke is killed, taking away his "special" status and making his moment of hope meaningless.]]

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** There's also the bizarre double case in which Locke, [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after causing Boone's death, goes to the hatch and begins banging on the door and screaming. This causes Desmond, who was in the hatch, to abandon his suicide attempt because he thought Locke was his new button pressing partner. Desmond shines a light up through the hatch door just as Locke is screaming at the island to give him a sign. Of course, Locke turns out to not be Desmond's new partner and, when he finally gets into the hatch, the computer winds up getting shot, which causes Desmond to both panic and go into a deeper depression than before. Locke goes on to destroy the computer that gave him so much hope and purpose after he loses faith it. Later on, Locke is killed, taking away his "special" status and making his moment of hope meaningless.]]



* ''NewTricks'': Rare example of a villain getting this from the pilot episode; a vicious, psychotic gangster has been released from jail following an appeal of his conviction for the murder of a barmaid two decades beforehand. He and his friends are celebrating in a posh restaurant when the main characters enter the restaurant to officially and publicly announce that [=DNA=] evidence has cleared him of the murder he was convicted for. The entire room begins to celebrate... moments before more police officers flood in to arrest him for another murder two decades ago that same [=DNA=] evidence can now conclusively prove he ''did'' do. [[spoiler: Oh, and turned out his wife murdered the barmaid under the mistaken impression she was having an affair with her husband.]]

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* ''NewTricks'': Rare example of a villain getting this from the pilot episode; a vicious, psychotic gangster has been released from jail following an appeal of his conviction for the murder of a barmaid two decades beforehand. He and his friends are celebrating in a posh restaurant when the main characters enter the restaurant to officially and publicly announce that [=DNA=] evidence has cleared him of the murder he was convicted for. The entire room begins to celebrate... moments before more police officers flood in to arrest him for another murder two decades ago that same [=DNA=] evidence can now conclusively prove he ''did'' do. [[spoiler: Oh, [[spoiler:Oh, and turned out his wife murdered the barmaid under the mistaken impression she was having an affair with her husband.]]



** A worse one comes in the end of season 4. [[spoiler: Beecher is paroled thanks to an attorney he fell in love with, says goodbye to Oz, gets finally out...and wakes up. It was AllJustADream, and in reality, Beecher's parole is refused, and he is forced to stay in jail. The show's future was uncertain at the time; in the event of the show's cancellation, the scene would not have turned out to be a dream.]]

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** A worse one comes in the end of season 4. [[spoiler: Beecher [[spoiler:Beecher is paroled thanks to an attorney he fell in love with, says goodbye to Oz, gets finally out...and wakes up. It was AllJustADream, and in reality, Beecher's parole is refused, and he is forced to stay in jail. The show's future was uncertain at the time; in the event of the show's cancellation, the scene would not have turned out to be a dream.]]



* ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'': In "The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith" we see present day London in ruins and Sarah Jane and Luke stuck in the past with no idea how to defeat the Trickster without...bad things happening to Sarah Jane's parents. Cut to the image of a Blue Police Box as the Doctor's music plays. [[spoiler: It turns out to be just a policeman]].

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* ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'': In "The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith" we see present day London in ruins and Sarah Jane and Luke stuck in the past with no idea how to defeat the Trickster without... bad things happening to Sarah Jane's parents. Cut to the image of a Blue Police Box as the Doctor's music plays. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It turns out to be just a policeman]].



** Every season finale. "No Rest for the Wicked" has them just about to murder Lilith-- the entire episode is one giant Hope Spot-- and [[spoiler: Lilith turns out to be possessing Ruby, and Dean goes to Hell anyways]]. And then "Lucifer Rising": [[spoiler:Dean gets to Sam with some help from Castiel, Sam hears him calling out and puppyfaces "Dean?", and then Lilith hits his BerserkButton and he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero kills her, destroying the final seal and releasing Lucifer from his prison]]]].
* ''Series/VeronicaMars'': It has one. [[spoiler:Logan's mother dies]], and he is convinced that she is still alive. He asks Veronica to find her for him, and she tries to do so ([[spoiler: encouraged by the knowledge that the woman who supposedly witnessed the suicide was a liar]]) until Weevil finds a freshman with a tape that shows, amongst other pointless things, [[spoiler:something dropping off the bridge at around the time that his mother jumped.]] Logan then gives up until Veronica gets a hit on one of his mother's credit cards- someone used one. They go to where it was used and find a woman there. [[spoiler:Logan]] tentatively asks 'Mom?' only to have the woman turn around to be revealed as... his sister, Trina. [[TearJerker Makes you want to cry.]] Supposedly her death was purposefully left ambiguous in case the writers wanted to bring her back, so does that count as only a half-futile hope spot?

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** Every season finale. "No Rest for the Wicked" has them just about to murder Lilith-- the entire episode is one giant Hope Spot-- and [[spoiler: Lilith [[spoiler:Lilith turns out to be possessing Ruby, and Dean goes to Hell anyways]]. And then "Lucifer Rising": [[spoiler:Dean gets to Sam with some help from Castiel, Sam hears him calling out and puppyfaces "Dean?", and then Lilith hits his BerserkButton and he [[NiceJobBreakingItHero kills her, destroying the final seal and releasing Lucifer from his prison]]]].
* ''Series/VeronicaMars'': It has one. [[spoiler:Logan's mother dies]], and he is convinced that she is still alive. He asks Veronica to find her for him, and she tries to do so ([[spoiler: encouraged ([[spoiler:encouraged by the knowledge that the woman who supposedly witnessed the suicide was a liar]]) until Weevil finds a freshman with a tape that shows, amongst other pointless things, [[spoiler:something dropping off the bridge at around the time that his mother jumped.]] Logan then gives up until Veronica gets a hit on one of his mother's credit cards- someone used one. They go to where it was used and find a woman there. [[spoiler:Logan]] tentatively asks 'Mom?' only to have the woman turn around to be revealed as... his sister, Trina. [[TearJerker Makes you want to cry.]] Supposedly her death was purposefully left ambiguous in case the writers wanted to bring her back, so does that count as only a half-futile hope spot?
7th Oct '17 8:27:16 AM CASCHero
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-->'''Jesse''': I got an idea... '''(The camera pans to him, pale skinned and vamped face)'''...you can die.

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-->'''Jesse''': I got an idea... '''(The ''(The camera pans to him, pale skinned and vamped face)'''...face)''...you can die.
7th Oct '17 8:26:11 AM CASCHero
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** The second episode had Buffy and Xander go into the sewers in the hopes of finding Xander's friend Jesse who was taken by Darla in the previous episode. Helped along by the fact that we saw that The Master intended to use Jesse as bait and leave him alive. Sure enough, Buffy and Xander find him seemingly unharmed and the vampires come to attack them. The three run and reach a dead end. When Buffy asks for any ideas...
-->'''Jesse''': Well I have one... '''(The camera pans to him, pale skinned and vamped face)''...you can die.

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** The second episode had Buffy and Xander go into the sewers in the hopes of finding Xander's friend Jesse who was taken by Darla in the previous episode. Helped along by the fact that we earlier saw that The Master intended to use Jesse as bait and leave him alive.alive for now. Sure enough, Buffy and Xander find him seemingly unharmed and the vampires come to attack them. The three run and reach a dead end. When Buffy Xander asks for any ideas...
what do they do now...
-->'''Jesse''': Well I have one... got an idea... '''(The camera pans to him, pale skinned and vamped face)''...face)'''...you can die.
7th Oct '17 12:54:43 AM CASCHero
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': The episode "Help", where [[MeaningfulName Cassie]] (teenage girl who has had a premonition of her own untimely death) is saved by Buffy from being killed by a demon... but then a lethal trap goes off... and Buffy saves her just in time for a heart attack to kill Cassie.

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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
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The second episode had Buffy and Xander go into the sewers in the hopes of finding Xander's friend Jesse who was taken by Darla in the previous episode. Helped along by the fact that we saw that The Master intended to use Jesse as bait and leave him alive. Sure enough, Buffy and Xander find him seemingly unharmed and the vampires come to attack them. The three run and reach a dead end. When Buffy asks for any ideas...
-->'''Jesse''': Well I have one... '''(The camera pans to him, pale skinned and vamped face)''...you can die.
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episode "Help", where [[MeaningfulName Cassie]] (teenage girl who has had a premonition of her own untimely death) is saved by Buffy from being killed by a demon... but then a lethal trap goes off... and Buffy saves her just in time for a heart attack to kill Cassie.
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'':
** For Walt, [[MoralEventHorizon but not for audiences]], in "Ozymandias." After realizing that [[spoiler:Skyler and Walt Jr. had truly turned against him, he proceeded to kidnap the one family member he didn't believe could turn against him because she supposedly didn't know anything--his infant daughter Holly. But on the road, Walt sadly discovered that he was wrong when she started [[IWantMyMommy crying for "Mama."]] [[HeelRealization This made him realize he had gone too far.]] And it was still a terrible thing to do, even if it didn't turn out to be in vain and Holly hadn't turned against him.]]
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* ''Series/{{Friends}}'': In "The One Where The Stripper Cries," Joey appears on the game show Pyramid and, naturally, is terrible at it. His intial partner is a man who desperately needs the prize money. In the final round, Joey starts answering questions correctly, coming within one answer of winning. Unfortunately, he doesn't get it and they lose.
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** [[TortureTechnician Ramsay Snow]] deliberately creates these situations, [[GenreSavvy understanding that providing the illusion of hope and then ripping it away at the last minute is far more psychologically damaging than providing no hope at all.]] This could be something as simple pouring water out in front of someone dehydrated, or as complex as [[spoiler:acting like a friend and helping them escape, only to lead them right back to more torture.]]

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** [[TortureTechnician Ramsay Snow]] deliberately creates these situations, [[GenreSavvy understanding that providing the illusion of hope and then ripping it away at the last minute is far more psychologically damaging than providing no hope at all.]] This could be something as simple pouring water out in front of someone dehydrated, or as complex as [[spoiler:acting like a friend and helping them escape, only to lead them right back to more torture.torture, as he did with Theon. While still pretending to be Yara's agent and pretending he's escorting Theon to her, he listens to Theon reflect out loud on everything that brought him to this point. By the end, Theon's so overwhelmed with guilt and regret that he's fighting back tears. "Maybe it's not too late," Ramsay tells him. Theon says that it is, that he made the wrong choice, and he's burned everything down. "Not everything, my lord," says Ramsay, the implication being "You still have your sister, who sent me to rescue you. You're safe and free now." And ''then'' he leads Theon back into the torture chamber and reveals it was all a lie.]]
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