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15th Nov '15 11:21:37 AM nombretomado
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* In ''RomSpaceKnight'', the title character found himself in such a situation when he had captured a disguised Dire Wraith disguised as a human scientist, but her security staff, unaware of her true nature, had arrived to help her. The Dire Wraith dared him to banish her at the cost that it will appear he killed her and he would likely never be able to convince humanity of the truth. Rom considers this, but since a friend had [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed his life]] to free his main weapon, he cannot have that sacrifice be for nothing. So, he banishes her and prepares to deal with the consequences.
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* In ''RomSpaceKnight'', ''ComicBook/RomSpaceKnight'', the title character found himself in such a situation when he had captured a disguised Dire Wraith disguised as a human scientist, but her security staff, unaware of her true nature, had arrived to help her. The Dire Wraith dared him to banish her at the cost that it will appear he killed her and he would likely never be able to convince humanity of the truth. Rom considers this, but since a friend had [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed his life]] to free his main weapon, he cannot have that sacrifice be for nothing. So, he banishes her and prepares to deal with the consequences.
5th Nov '15 8:13:33 AM nombretomado
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* In the first Marvel vs. DC/DC vs. Marvel crossover miniseries, WonderWoman discovers TheMightyThor's hammer and takes it up, becoming the God(dess) of Thunder. When [[ComicBook/XMen Storm]] comes to challenge Wondy, she muses that she could easily defeat her with her new power, but discards it, finding it utterly unfair. Storm easily takes her down.
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* In the first Marvel vs. DC/DC vs. Marvel crossover miniseries, WonderWoman discovers TheMightyThor's ComicBook/TheMightyThor's hammer and takes it up, becoming the God(dess) of Thunder. When [[ComicBook/XMen Storm]] comes to challenge Wondy, she muses that she could easily defeat her with her new power, but discards it, finding it utterly unfair. Storm easily takes her down.
15th Sep '15 10:55:02 AM Ambaryerno
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* Comicbook/{{X 23}} has increasingly been becoming this. Most notable in ''Comicbook/{{Wolverines}}'', Laura, Comicbook/{{Daken}} and Comicbook/{{Blade}} subdue Siphon, a dangerous monster created by a Weapon X spinoff who feeds on the {{Healing Factor}}s of other people, sometimes killing them in the process. Daken and Blade both want to put him down, and they would certainly be ''right'' to because of just how severe a threat he poses. However before he was experimented on, Siphon was a very intelligent, cultured, and kind man who was transformed into the monster he's become entirely against his will, with this part of his personality emerging whenever he's satiated and in control of his hunger. Laura talks them out of it, however, as she feels she and Siphon are NotSoDifferent. She recognizes that he's a victim, and insists on doing the right thing and trying to ''help'' him. [[spoiler: It eventually bites her on the ass. Mystique ''[[BatmanGambit wanted]]'' Laura there when Daken confronted him for precisely this purpose, and unleashes an out-of-control Siphon on the group in the final issue, and he drains all of them.]]
22nd Aug '15 11:41:06 AM Austin
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* Jubilee of the Comicbook/{{X-Men}} takes the superheroic [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]] to a foolish extreme in one story. While escaping from Operation: Zero Tolerance (who had been torturing her for days), she seriously injured one of the guards -- and broke off her escape to perform CPR on him.
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* Jubilee ComicBook/{{Jubilee}} of the Comicbook/{{X-Men}} takes the superheroic [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]] to a foolish extreme in one story. While escaping from Operation: Zero Tolerance (who had been torturing her for days), she seriously injured one of the guards -- and broke off her escape to perform CPR on him.
19th Aug '15 12:49:29 PM Anddrix
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* Geoffrey St. John in [[ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog Sonic the Hedgehog]]: Despite knowing what his mentor Ixis Naugus is truly like, and even acknowledging that the wizard committed treason in a preceding arc, he still tries to make the whole "King Naugus" thing work and appeal to Naugus' better nature to work with the people of New Mobotropolis to help cure his illness. He gets betrayed when Naugus [[GrandTheftMe possesses]] him to escape his illness and manipulate said people. And possibly erased from existence following the crossover with the Comicbook/MegaMan book.
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* Geoffrey St. John in [[ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog Sonic the Hedgehog]]: Despite knowing what his mentor Ixis Naugus is truly like, and even acknowledging that the wizard committed treason in a preceding arc, he still tries to make the whole "King Naugus" thing work and appeal to Naugus' better nature to work with the people of New Mobotropolis to help cure his illness. He gets betrayed when Naugus [[GrandTheftMe possesses]] him to escape his illness and manipulate said people. And possibly erased from existence following the crossover with the Comicbook/MegaMan book.book. * In ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'', Victor Van Damme would rather die than have ''Reed Richards'' [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice]] himself for his sake. ----
29th Jun '15 7:48:12 AM TheUsualSuspect
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** He also seemed to think that the best way to be a superhero was just to do the opposite of whatever he'd usually do as a villain in a case of EvilCannotComprehendGood. As he got better at heroics he started to be a bit more reasonable.
2nd Jun '15 9:39:42 AM nombretomado
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* In ''Incorruptible'' - a spin-off of ''{{Irredeemable}}'' - Max Damage made a HeelFaceTurn in response to The Plutonian's epic FaceHeelTurn. In the process of "making a clean start of it", he destroys billions of dollars in currency he'd stashed away over the years and destroyed most of his old gear and hideouts. Which is cool and all, but wouldn't all those resources actually ''help'' fight The Plutonian?
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* In ''Incorruptible'' - a spin-off of ''{{Irredeemable}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}}'' - Max Damage made a HeelFaceTurn in response to The Plutonian's epic FaceHeelTurn. In the process of "making a clean start of it", he destroys billions of dollars in currency he'd stashed away over the years and destroyed most of his old gear and hideouts. Which is cool and all, but wouldn't all those resources actually ''help'' fight The Plutonian?
25th Mar '15 6:34:20 PM luiz4200
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* Superheroes from both DC and Marvel are notorious for taking this to ridiculous extremes. The most obvious example is {{Franchise/Batman}}'s refusal to kill even SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, despite knowing that he's a purely evil, irredeemable, sadistic monster who cannot be reformed and who will simply go on killing innocent people just for kicks . When Joker then goes on to [[spoiler:kill Jason Todd, the second Robin]], Batman comes ''damn close'' to breaking his rule, but didn't in the end. Unfortunately, this would come to bite Batman later: when [[InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime's]] CosmicRetcon [[spoiler:resurrected Jason]], the fact that Batman [[spoiler:never avenged his death led him to assume the mantle of Red Hood, an AntiVillain who opposes Batman's no-kill ideology, thus pitting the two of them against each other.]]
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* Superheroes from both DC and Marvel are notorious for taking this to ridiculous extremes. The most obvious example is {{Franchise/Batman}}'s refusal to kill even SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, despite knowing that he's a purely evil, irredeemable, sadistic monster who cannot be reformed and who will simply go on killing innocent people just for kicks . When Joker then goes on to [[spoiler:kill Jason Todd, the second Robin]], Batman comes ''damn close'' to breaking his rule, but didn't in the end. Unfortunately, this would come to bite Batman later: when [[InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime's]] CosmicRetcon [[spoiler:resurrected Jason]], the fact that Batman [[spoiler:never avenged his death led him to assume the mantle of Red Hood, an AntiVillain who opposes Batman's no-kill ideology, thus pitting the two of them against each other.]]]] Batman takes this to another extreme when his alter ego becomes a juror at the trial of someone captured by him. When asked if there's any reason he shouldn't be a juror, Bruce Wayne tells the judge that [[CassandraTruth he's Batman]]. He later tells Tim that he had to tell because he was under oath.
20th Nov '14 7:43:48 AM MagBas
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* Superheroes from both DC and Marvel are notorious for taking this to ridiculous extremes. The most obvious example is {{Franchise/Batman}}'s refusal to kill even SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, despite knowing that he's a purely evil, irredeemable, sadistic monster who cannot be reformed and who will simply go on killing innocent people just for kicks (which leads to some very UnfortunateImplications). When Joker then goes on to [[spoiler:kill Jason Todd, the second Robin]], Batman comes ''damn close'' to breaking his rule, but didn't in the end. Unfortunately, this would come to bite Batman later: when [[InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime's]] CosmicRetcon [[spoiler:resurrected Jason]], the fact that Batman [[spoiler:never avenged his death led him to assume the mantle of Red Hood, an AntiVillain who opposes Batman's no-kill ideology, thus pitting the two of them against each other.]]
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* Superheroes from both DC and Marvel are notorious for taking this to ridiculous extremes. The most obvious example is {{Franchise/Batman}}'s refusal to kill even SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, despite knowing that he's a purely evil, irredeemable, sadistic monster who cannot be reformed and who will simply go on killing innocent people just for kicks (which leads to some very UnfortunateImplications).kicks . When Joker then goes on to [[spoiler:kill Jason Todd, the second Robin]], Batman comes ''damn close'' to breaking his rule, but didn't in the end. Unfortunately, this would come to bite Batman later: when [[InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime's]] CosmicRetcon [[spoiler:resurrected Jason]], the fact that Batman [[spoiler:never avenged his death led him to assume the mantle of Red Hood, an AntiVillain who opposes Batman's no-kill ideology, thus pitting the two of them against each other.]]
29th Jun '14 3:27:51 AM KorKhan
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Removing "Trope Incarnate" Word Cruft as per this thread.
** Sunfire is this trope incarnate. He has the potential to be a genuine force for good, but often finds himself at odds with the X-Men and other heroes due to the situation at hand often conflicting with his fanatical loyalty to Japan and his family's reputation. The major reason he ends up joining the Comicbook/UncannyAvengers is because he believes a Japanese hero being part earth's mightiest superhero team will bring honor and pride to his nation.
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** Sunfire is this trope incarnate. He has the potential to be a genuine force for good, but often finds himself at odds with the X-Men and other heroes due to the situation at hand often conflicting with his fanatical loyalty to Japan and his family's reputation. The major reason he ends up joining the Comicbook/UncannyAvengers is because he believes a Japanese hero being part earth's mightiest superhero team will bring honor and pride to his nation.
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