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* In "All About You-niverse", the magic mirror must be taped back together in order to work properly. This isn't illogical in itself, except for one thing: Since magical items can be affected by magic, why couldn't they simply use ''magic'' to repair it?
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***** The main problem this troper had with the final duel was at the end where [[spoiler:Alex just saw that flower and said "That's it!" without any aspect of the movie even referencing that she is even aware of a spell like that. Then it just so happens she creates a ridiculous unexplained flower spell that teleports her right to the ball and the rest of the duel is her trying to reach for the flower before Justin can run the entire distance she just teleported from when all she needs to do is take about two steps. Not to mention how she was MELTING when she cast the flower spell, and it did not affect her spellcasting in any way.]]
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****** While carrying a blunt and heavy object... riiight, pressure point...
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** What about the fact that Justin's girlfriend acted like a dog ''all the time'' (lapping up water with her tongue, chasing squirrels, catching Frisbees in her mouth, etc.), and Mason is quite obviously 100% capable of acting like a normal human except when a full-blown werewolf. And don't give me any of that 'self-control' shit, either - he went on a rampage when Justin was merely trying to protect Alex, and with good reason, considering Mason broke her heart not too long ago. And attacked Juliet, who he supposedly was insanely loyal to, for no reason at all.
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*****Alex didn't kill her clone. She outright states that she knocked her out by using a pressure point on the back of her neck.
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**** The magic ball gave off the vibe that it wanted the competition to be won by something skillful, not something based on luck or something lame. Alex using the puddle spell to win just wouldn't make her worthy of the powers in any sense.

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*** Indeed, I noticed other stuff. Despite being a HUGE jerk the whole movie, Alex is the one who opens the path as she has "good intentions" WTF? And then the way she wins the duel [[spoiler: the ball of magic moves around and Jerry explains that magic does whatever it wants, and he has no control, meaning the so called duel or competition is nothing more than a glorified lottery based only in luck. You can win even if you're unconscious.]]

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*** ** Indeed, I noticed other stuff. Despite being a HUGE jerk the whole movie, Alex is the one who opens the path as she has "good intentions" WTF? And then the way she wins the duel [[spoiler: the duel...
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ball of magic moves around and Jerry explains that magic does whatever it wants, and he has no control, meaning the so called duel or competition is nothing more than a glorified lottery based only in luck. You can win even if you're unconscious.]]
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** Some people will pair anyone with anyone else. Being on the internet YouShouldKnowThisAlready.

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** Some people will pair anyone with anyone else. Being on the internet YouShouldKnowThisAlready.You Should Know This Already.
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* In Wizard School, Headmaster Crumbs says that he can't confront Dr. Evilini because she'd only deny it. Then he proceeds to use a truth spell on Alex with HIS HANDS TIED UP. Since he can obviously still use this spell, what's stopping him from using it on Evilini? To make matters worse, that's exactly what Alex ends up doing later! It's like the last 15-30 minutes of the episode were completely unnecessary.
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* Mason is a pure werewolf, and Justin's girlfriend was a half-breed. That's their excuse.

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* ** Mason is a pure werewolf, and Justin's girlfriend was a half-breed. That's their excuse.
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* Mason is a pure werewolf, and Justin's girlfriend was a half-breed. That's their excuse.


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** It was a contrived attempt at doing the whole 'love conquers all' plot, showing Alex getting over how shallow she is. It felt forced, of course, but so do a lot of other things in this show. And like all those other things, it's best not to think about it too much.


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** Alex is a liar. Plain and simple. Alex never reveals her true feelings to anyone except ''sometimes'' Justin, but that's only when they're alone. Since Harper was in the room, just assume she was putting on a facade to try to be strong and cool.
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* In one of the earlier episodes, Justin's werewolf girlfriend says that if you kiss a werewolf, you turn into a werewolf. But we've seen Alex and Mason kiss bunches of times. Is there ANY explanation?
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******* Indeed, it's established in the series that Alex has an easier time when inventing spells(with rhymes) and Justin has actual difficulty with those(POSSIBLY because she's more artistic than him) Had she won using those kind of spells(Involving the elements) it would have been a satisfying victory. With any other spells, while she can perform them also easily(Like any of the other Russo kids) she usually doesn't understand what they do exactly, like what they can or won't do.


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**** The fact that they don't even ''care'' about that is worrying enough. And remember there are [[FateWorseThanDeath fates worse than death]]

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*** Indeed, I noticed other stuff. Despite being a HUGE jerk the whole movie, Alex is the one who opens the path as she has "good intentions" WTF? And then the way she wins the duel [[spoiler: the ball of magic moves around and Jerry explains that magic does whatever it wants, and he has no control, meaning the so called duel or competition is nothing more than a glorified lottery based only in luck. You can win even if you're unconscious]]

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*** Indeed, I noticed other stuff. Despite being a HUGE jerk the whole movie, Alex is the one who opens the path as she has "good intentions" WTF? And then the way she wins the duel [[spoiler: the ball of magic moves around and Jerry explains that magic does whatever it wants, and he has no control, meaning the so called duel or competition is nothing more than a glorified lottery based only in luck. You can win even if you're unconscious]]unconscious.]]



*** Proposed solution: Justin's mind is falling apart[[hottip:* :which is why he fairs so badly]] during the battle (because of being erased from history), while Alex has a little more time due to being at the center of the temporal disturbance.The Magic Ball goes to her because it is ''trying to help.'' She still has a working mind,and is therefore better positioned to reverse the spell that wrecked up time.
*** That doesn't make much sense either. The way they present the "erasing" (By eliminating Max first) means that the last one that should be erased is Justin. The only reason I can believe Alex was skipped is that she became a full wizard just in time. Alex's spell made so that their parents never meet each other, but she was no immune to the side-effects, either way they had went(erased from oldest to youngest, or youngest to oldest sibling) Alex shouldn't have been the last survivor "just because"

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*** Proposed solution: Justin's mind is falling apart[[hottip:* :which is why he fairs so badly]] during the battle (because of being erased from history), while Alex has a little more time due to being at the center of the temporal disturbance. The Magic Ball goes to her because it is ''trying to help.'' She still has a working mind,and is therefore better positioned to reverse the spell that wrecked up time.
*** That doesn't make much sense either. The way they present the "erasing" (By (by eliminating Max first) means that the last one that should be erased is Justin. The only reason I can believe Alex was skipped is that she became a full wizard just in time. Alex's spell made so that their parents never meet each other, but she was no immune to the side-effects, either way they had went(erased went (erased from oldest to youngest, or youngest to oldest sibling) Alex shouldn't have been the last survivor "just because"because."



**** She made the same spell over and over and over again... that's not thinking fast... that's not thinking. If she wins the real deal, she will become just like their uncle.

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**** She made used the same spell over and over and over again... that's not thinking fast... that's not thinking. If she wins the real deal, she will become just like their uncle.



***** STILL makes no sense. The only thing Alex has proven to be better(on the series) than Justin is to improvise spells. Now, if she had won because of that, it would have been a satisfactory win, as it's established that Justin thinks too much for that sort of spells. Justin has practiced magic more, knows more spells. Alex winning is basically the same that exploiting a combo in a fighting videogame that makes your opponent vulnerable: A hollow victory. And it's pretty much a given that, unlike Alex, Justin knows full the consequences of all the spells he casts. Unlike psycho Alex, who almost made him drown in quicksand and has killed people in the series.

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***** STILL makes no sense. The only thing Alex has proven to be better(on the series) than Justin is to improvise spells. Now, if she had won because of that, it would have been a satisfactory win, as it's established that Justin thinks too much for that sort those kinds of spells. Justin has practiced magic more, knows more spells. Alex winning is basically the same that exploiting a combo in a fighting videogame video game that makes your opponent vulnerable: A hollow victory. And it's pretty much a given that, unlike Alex, Justin knows full the consequences of all the spells he casts. Unlike psycho Alex, who almost made him drown in quicksand and has killed people in the series.



******* Obviously, you had never had been beaten by the annoying combos. It's worse in this setting, it shows she doesn't have any creativity and will rely on the same stuff always. If she has to get against something that is immune to that, that's it, she's death.
**** Alex WAS the better wizard. It was an issue through the whole movie that Justin was jealous that he studied and practiced all the time and Alex always came out on top. I don;t think that's fridge logic at all. That happens a lot in reality, where one person is just better for some reason.
***** Are we watching the same show? Alex ALWAYS screws up for not thinking ahead on her usage of magic, and Justin ALWAYS has to rescue her somehow(And half the time, Alex manages to screw him while he's rescuing her). And yes, I'm aware that there are exceptions to that, and that Alex had rescued him on occasions. Justin frustations is that Alex always gets what she wants and how she wants it, without any consequence, while he CantGetAwayWithNuthin

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******* Obviously, you had never had been beaten by the annoying combos. It's worse in this setting, it shows she doesn't have any creativity and will rely on the same stuff always. If she has to get against something that is immune to that, that's it, she's death.
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******** She only used it because it ''worked.'' And she did show creativity with that flower spell. You're only basing her magical talent on the spell that she used the most, which helped the situation. Seems like the other spells she used were forgotten.
**** Alex WAS the better wizard. It was an issue through the whole movie that Justin was jealous that he studied and practiced all the time and Alex always came out on top. I don;t don't think that's fridge logic at all. That happens a lot in reality, where one person is just better for some reason.
***** Are we watching the same show? Alex ALWAYS screws up for not thinking ahead on her usage of magic, and Justin ALWAYS has to rescue her somehow(And somehow (and half the time, Alex manages to screw him while he's rescuing her). And yes, I'm aware that there are exceptions to that, and that Alex had rescued him on occasions. Justin frustations Justin's frustation is that Alex always gets what she wants and how she wants it, without any consequence, while he CantGetAwayWithNuthinCantGetAwayWithNuthin.
****** Maybe, but notice, despite the fact that she always creates a problem, that Alex seems to do spells almost perfectly despite the fact that she hasn't studied or barely listened to what's going on. I can name a handful of them (but that's work, so I won't). Justin says that he has to do all this hard work to learn a spell and it comes to Alex easily.



** Besides, I doubt Justin and especially not Alex would get involved in a heavy battle with a vampire and a werewolf that would've killed him if said vampire hadn't intervened. And they probably weren't thinking about the spell at the moment, the severe shock that their boyfriend and girlfriend were going to be gone forever would do that.

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** Besides, I doubt Justin and especially not Alex would get involved in a heavy battle with a vampire and a werewolf that would've killed him if said vampire hadn't intervened. And they probably weren't thinking about the spell or any magic at the moment, the moment. The severe shock that their boyfriend and girlfriend were going to be gone forever would do that.



*** Alex used the spell that rewinds time with her hands about 17-18 times in the episode it was introduced.



** All she said was that Alex has to graduate. She didn't say that year, she just said that it had to happen (presumably, as soon as possible).



** After rewatching some of the episodes... Is VERY creepy and dark. Alex gives life to a poster of a super model that Justin had on his room, and she complains that she doesn't like Justin because he [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean just stared at her]]. The she gives life to a copy of herself and bludgeons it... she... with a pretty heavy thing.

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** After rewatching some of the episodes... Is It is VERY creepy and dark. Alex gives life to a poster of a super model that Justin had on his room, and she complains that she doesn't like Justin because he [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean just stared at her]]. The she gives life to a copy of herself and bludgeons it... she... with a pretty heavy thing.



** It's magic, though. What explanation, if any, really makes sense in the first place.



*** You don't know that Stevie's brother is incompetent. Didn't he win the competition in the first place?



*** Don't forget how Max caused the death of [[spoiler: The Mummy]]

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*** Don't forget how Max caused the death of [[spoiler: The Mummy]]Mummy]].
*** He was also the real reason that Stevie died. By shattering her, it was implied that she could be unfrozen if kept intact.



*** Even though I don't see Stevie's plan as being all that evil, she's still going against the wizard rule/laws/whatever. And I always figured that the competition was to see who was the better wizard. Better in the sense that, to quote the above troper, magic doesn't fall into the hands of people like Max and Kelbo, despite that happening to the latter. If a bunch of people like them ALL got powers, something chaotic can happen.



** You also forgot Manny. It's outright stated that an object that has been given life will develop feelings(And presumably, a consciousness and self-awareness) so it's pretty much a WhatMeasureIsANonHuman . They basically kill him and regret nothing... and let loose a "Calico Woman"... that ''hasn't'' developed feeling yet, and will have a hell of a time, as she doesn't have any sort of identity.

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** You also forgot Manny. It's outright stated that an object that has been given life will develop feelings(And feelings (And presumably, a consciousness and self-awareness) so it's pretty much a WhatMeasureIsANonHuman . They basically kill him and regret nothing... and let loose a "Calico Woman"... that ''hasn't'' developed feeling yet, and will have a hell of a time, as she doesn't have any sort of identity.



*** While ''some'' of the magical generated life isn't.... well, alive, is explicitly mentioned in some cases(Like with Manny) that they have the possibility of becoming sentient, self-aware beings. It's not that she murders in cold blood, but the fact that she has very little concern of the well-being of other people(real or not), like any normal person with feelings would. She doesn't care when Manny gets destroyed(despite the fact he had developed feelings for her and she just used him), the first think she thought to dealing with her clone involved hitting her with a blunt object(Whether she killed her or not is not important), She uses magic on other people without fully understating what the consequences of the spell can be(Justin all the time, Harper sometimes, freezing Stevie) and doesn't give a damn when other people use irresponsible magic(Stevie basically kill another student via a hole, and she is ''happy''

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*** While ''some'' of the magical generated life isn't.... isn't...well, alive, it is explicitly mentioned in some cases(Like cases (like with Manny) that they have the possibility of becoming sentient, self-aware beings. It's not that she murders in cold blood, but the fact that she has very little concern of the well-being of other people(real people (real or not), like any normal person with feelings would. She doesn't care when Manny gets destroyed(despite destroyed (despite the fact he had developed feelings for her and she just used him), the first think she thought to dealing with her clone involved hitting her with a blunt object(Whether object (whether she killed her or not is not important), important). She uses magic on other people without fully understating what the consequences of the spell can be(Justin be (Justin all the time, Harper sometimes, freezing Stevie) and doesn't give a damn when other people use irresponsible magic(Stevie magic (Stevie basically kill kills another student via a hole, and she is ''happy''''happy'' about it).
*** Yes, but the point being made is whether or not Alex actually kills people (if you count a talking mannequin, a clone, and a talking pimple as people). We already know that Alex is an irresponsible jerk.
*** We don't know that Stevie killed him. She just doesn't know where she sent him. While it is possible that he's dead, it's also possible that he's alive.



* One thing bugged me about Wizards Unleashed.Why is no one at the party freaking out at the sight of Alex bringing a werewolf at Zeke's Party? Zeke damn near shit brix at the sight of Mason. This is particularly wallbanger inducing when Justin meets up with Alex and Mason at the party. You know, the same Justin who is so Lawful Stupid at times that he has threatened to rat out members of HIS OWN FAMILY for breaking magical rules.

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* One thing bugged me about Wizards Unleashed. Why is no one at the party freaking out at the sight of Alex bringing a werewolf at Zeke's Party? Zeke damn near shit brix at the sight of Mason. This is particularly wallbanger inducing when Justin meets up with Alex and Mason at the party. You know, the same Justin who is so Lawful Stupid at times that he has threatened to rat out members of HIS OWN FAMILY for breaking magical rules.



*** True, but it doesn't change the fact that a roomful of mortals saw a dude who looked like a wolf and didn't say anything
* What bothers this troper is that Alex tells Justin to forget about Juliet, but when she sees Mason as a wolf on TV, she tries to get him back. So it's okay to tell someone and convince them to forget someone they love, but you can ignore that advice? And what's worst is that she SUCCEEDED in getting him back.

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*** True, but it doesn't change the fact that a roomful of mortals saw a dude who looked like a wolf and didn't say anything
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*** Usually when people see things out of the ordinary, they try to make sense of it. Since they didn't see him ''change'' from a wolf into a half...wolf..thing, they probably thought things like "oh he's wearing a costume", "he must have a physical deformity", "must be hereditary", etc.
* What bothers this troper is that Alex tells Justin to forget about Juliet, but when she sees Mason as a wolf on TV, she tries to get him back. So it's okay to tell someone and convince them to forget someone they love, but you can ignore that advice? And what's worst is that she SUCCEEDED in getting him back. back.
** Well, when Alex told Justin to get over Juliet, she said that she already got over Mason (despite it being hard). She was under the belief that Mason and Juliet were gone ''forever.'' So, naturally, when she saw that Mason had a chance to be brought back, she'd go out and do it. Otherwise, she'd be following her own advice.



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*** True, but it doesn't change the fact that a roomful of mortals saw a dude who looked like a wolf and didn't say anything
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***Because Zeke ''saw him transform.''
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* What bothers this troper is that Alex tells Justin to forget about Juliet, but when she sees Mason as a wolf on TV, she tries to get him back. So it's okay to tell someone and convince them to forget someone they love, but you can ignore that advice? And what's worst is that she SUCCEEDED in getting him back.
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**Alex's wand was on top of a wall she couldn't reach. She threw Justin's wand somewhere in the woods trying to knock it down. No wands = No Spell.
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**** Wizard, not witch. The show is called ''Wizards'' of Waverly Place, after all.
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** One thing bugged me about Wizards Unleashed.Why is no one at the party freaking out at the sight of Alex bringing a werewolf at Zeke's Party? Zeke damn near shit brix at the sight of Mason. This is particularly wallbanger inducing when Justin meets up with Alex and Mason at the party. You know, the same Justin who is so Lawful Stupid at times that he has threatened to rat out members of HIS OWN FAMILY for breaking magical rules.

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** * One thing bugged me about Wizards Unleashed.Why is no one at the party freaking out at the sight of Alex bringing a werewolf at Zeke's Party? Zeke damn near shit brix at the sight of Mason. This is particularly wallbanger inducing when Justin meets up with Alex and Mason at the party. You know, the same Justin who is so Lawful Stupid at times that he has threatened to rat out members of HIS OWN FAMILY for breaking magical rules.
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** One thing bugged me about Wizards Unleashed.Why is no one at the party freaking out at the sight of Alex bringing a werewolf at Zeke's Party? Zeke damn near shit brix at the sight of Mason. This is particularly wallbanger inducing when Justin meets up with Alex and Mason at the party. You know, the same Justin who is so Lawful Stupid at times that he has threatened to rat out members of HIS OWN FAMILY for breaking magical rules.
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** Let's put this logic to another Disney show. Say, the Jonas Brothers spend their entire young lives learning to be musicians, but when they all reach adulthood, they have to have a contest to determine which one gets to keep their musical talents, and the others give up music forever. Now, if a member of another musician family comes along and says, 'Hey, this system is unfair,' they're evil?
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** Look at the Wizards we have seen so far. CloudCuckolanders, evils, jerk or self absorbed. About Jerry, notice Movie!Jerry acts pretty immature, very unlike normal Jerry.
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* In the movie, Jerry makes his nachos bigger saying something about how they don't give enough to eat. Why don't a couple of wizards use this spell to end world hunger? Or, if Jerry's that picky about money, why doesn't he make small subs and then get the children to make them bigger?
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**'Third Wheel.' When Harper points out how bad a friend Alex is, not one person does anything about it!
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** This troper took Chemistry (a 10th-grade class at his high school) as a senior, because there would have only been six kids in the class had we had it in the appropriate year. We were moved in with the (11th-grade) Physics students instead, took (12th-grade) Advanced Physics in junior year, and Chemistry our senior year. All of which is to say: it may not be failing so much as bureaucracy.
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**** Oh, ''come on'', it's Stevie, for god's sake.

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* They don't do a good enough job making it clear to girl viewers that Alex is supposed to be an AntiRoleModel.
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** "Max's Secret Girlfriend". They ask Max what else he has told his girlfriend, and Max said everything except for the dragon dog, "Because I frankly don't know what happened with him". Worst case scenario, it's the dragon that Alex killed to get Merlin's hat.
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* In "Alex Russo, Matchmaker?", Alex, Harper, Justin and Zeke are all in the same chemistry class. Why? I know Justin's age has been played around with before but Zeke's supposed to be a year older than Justin, did he suddenly become an idiot and fail Chemistry or something?

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