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** Djinn splits himself into two beings, and then forces you into a three-way.
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** Djinn splits himself into two beings, and then forces you into a three-way.threesome.
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** Djinn splits himself into two beings, and then forces you into a three-way.
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* Ok, forget all the crafty wishes. What would happen if the wisher just told the Djinn to go f*ck himself?
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** Again, the Djinn can't grant a wish that would make him stop existing, as he's an eternal being.
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** Yeah, at first it seems like he's gonna turn her into a rat, which would make it so that no one could find her, and that's what it seems like has happened until we actually see her lying on the floor.
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**** Actually, if I recall correctly she wished specifically that she hadn't shot him, not just that he wasn't dead. It also explains why the cop's family weren't freaking out when he came home.
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* Okay, let me take a crack at it. "I wish for you to remove any and all versions of yourself, past present and future, from this universe forever, without causing any circumstances or consequences that I, as I currently propose this wish, would see as undesirable in my current state of mind."
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* Okay, let me take a crack at it. "I wish for you to remove any and all versions of yourself, past present and future, from this universe forever, without causing any circumstances or consequences that I, as I currently propose this wish, would see as undesirable not desire in my current state of mind."
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* Okay, let me take a crack at it. "I wish for you to remove any and all versions of yourself, past present and future, from this universe without causing any circumstances or consequences that I, as I currently propose this wish, would see as undesirable in my current state of mind, and never come back."
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* Okay, let me take a crack at it. "I wish for you to remove any and all versions of yourself, past present and future, from this universe forever, without causing any circumstances or consequences that I, as I currently propose this wish, would see as undesirable in my current state of mind, and never come back.mind."
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* Okay, let me take a crack at it. "I wish for you to remove any and all versions of yourself, past present and future, from this universe without causing any circumstances or consequences that I, as I currently propose this wish, would see as undesirable in my current state of mind, and never come back."
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*** "Very well. The Earth will now serve as their new, absolutely unbreakable prison for all eternity. And of course, 'unbreakable' doesn't preclude it being 'unlocked', so the universe is still ours too. Oh, I'm sorry, did you say 'as the wisher would interpret them'? Well, now that I've explained this wish to you, that's how you're interpreting it. Next wish?" {{Jackass Genie}}s can be ''very'' hard to manipulate, especially when, like the Djinn, they're willing to twist words around into outcomes that only InsaneTrollLogic would've predicted. Of course, if the Djinn's really DangerouslyGenreSavvy he'll just nod and say "done" until the last wish is granted, and ''then'' start springing the legalistic snares.
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*** "Very well. The Earth will now serve as their new, absolutely unbreakable prison for all eternity. And of course, 'unbreakable' doesn't preclude it being 'unlocked', so the universe is still ours too. Oh, I'm sorry, did you say 'as the wisher would interpret them'? Well, now that I've explained this wish to you, that's how you're interpreting it. Next wish?" {{Jackass Genie}}s can be ''very'' hard to manipulate, especially when, like the Djinn, they're willing to twist words around into outcomes that only InsaneTrollLogic would've predicted. Of course, if the Djinn's really DangerouslyGenreSavvy cunning he'll just nod and say "done" until the last wish is granted, and ''then'' start springing the legalistic snares.
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:: As a side note, the Djinn is [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy patently aware of how dangerous these attempts are]]. He openly scoffs at the protagonist for thinking she could outsmart an eternal being from between dimensions.
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:: As a side note, the Djinn is [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy patently aware of how dangerous these attempts are]].are. He openly scoffs at the protagonist for thinking she could outsmart an eternal being from between dimensions.
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*** It would take an inhumanly careful person to lead their life without ever once wording a wish for the tiniest thing. Don't ask this person there for their seat on the bus, or that douchebag there two rows in front of you at the movies to shut up. "I wish you'd let me finish just ONE sentence, Ma!" Oh shit, you popped the cork, the Djinn are coming!
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* In the third film, one girl wishes she could hide where no one would find her. The Djinn proceeds to show up and.... um.... shove her face into a cage full of rats, which eat her eyes. He adds "no one will ever find you in there", as though that makes it any more logical. Oh yeah, then her friends find her. What.
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*** Pretty sure that's what they meant, and simply forgot to add the N. Not sure how well it would work though.
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** No, no it wouldn't. Interpreting any information as wishes would mean they would be granting wishes all the time, from every person that spoke to them (since speaking is a form of information), communicated with them, in addition to granting wishes from non-human sources. They would become infinitely more dangerous, and uncontrollable than they already are. They would charge the stone of the secret fire in no time, and in addition be causing tremendous chaos. A better wish would be "I wish that you would be incapable of interpreting any information as wishes."
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** There's a lot to indicate it. The stone in the original was trapped in the statue of Ahura Mazda, while the second was in a box. There's no rule stating there can only be one Djinn in the world at a time. It also might be a different continuity and the events of the first 2 movies didn't happen, as there are some differences in the rules concerning the Djinn.
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* Is Djinn from Wishmaster 1 and 2 the same Djinn from Wishmaster 3 and 4? Are they two different demons? I know they are played by 2 different actors.
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** I'd think he'd probably... Just grant the second. (And interpret the first as the second.) Then the wish-maker would be, exactly as they asked, a being of pure evil committed to bringing about Hell on Earth. Any disappointment the djinni would feel in not screwing one person would surely be assuaged many times over by the second-hand glow of all the many future fuckings-over their new progeny dishes out.
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* How about "I wish that you, and any other creatures called Djinn at any point of time would ever interpret any information as wishes." Theoretically, it disables all Djinn (even if they change the name of their species) to ever accept wishes (though it backfires a bit on those people who were indeed called djinns for any reason).
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** In the second film, the protagonist tried wishing the Djinn to destroy itself or go away. It could not do either because it would make the prophecy unfulfillable. So for all its power there were limits
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** They were free in both films. In the first film, the events were undone, and we see all the people alive again, including Robert Englund's character and her boyfriends, even though they all made wishes. In the second film, all the people who made wishes come back to life after the Djinn is forced to give them up. The only thing that remained unchanged was the Djinn, who kept the face that he stole from the cadaver (who wasn't alive and so dosen't count as a wisher).
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** What if the wisher just wanted one or two things in life, and the Djinn fulfilled them, and then didn't want wish for anything else? The Djinn wants the wisher discontent, and then they panic and make lots of wishes.
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* What happens to those who's wishes are granted and their souls are taken, are they free in the end? Or they remain [[AndIMustScream trapped forever]]?
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* What about these? To get rid of the djinn: "'''I wish you would do nothing but continuously blow your brains out, from now, for all eternity.'''" To enslave the djinn: "'''I wish you would fall in love with me in a total, perpetual and completely selfless way.'''"
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* What about these? To get rid of the djinn: "'''I "I wish you would do nothing but continuously blow your brains out, from now, for all eternity.'''" " To enslave the djinn: "'''I "I wish you would fall in love with me in a total, perpetual and completely selfless way.'''""
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* What about these? To get rid of the djinn: "'''I wish you would do nothing but continuously blow your brains out, from now, for all eternity.'''" To enslave the djinn: "'''I wish you would fall in love with me in a total, perpetual and completely selfless way.'''"
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** Doesn't work. It ''does'' waste a wish ([[MindScrew until it doesn't]]), but say the Djinn goes ahead and doesn't grant the wish, which means he did grant the wish, which means he didn't, which means he did... it's a ''very'' tricky attempt, since at best the Djinn will be [[PuffOfLogic retconned out of existence]]. Alternatively the Djinn will rewrite the universe's logic to fulfill the wish, or at worst, it will cause a DivideByZero and omniversal ApocalypseHow.
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** Doesn't work. It ''does'' waste a wish ([[MindScrew until it doesn't]]), but say the Djinn goes ahead and doesn't grant the wish, which means he did grant the wish, which means he didn't, which means he did... it's a ''very'' tricky attempt, since at best the Djinn will be [[PuffOfLogic retconned out of existence]]. Alternatively the Djinn will rewrite the universe's logic to fulfill the wish, or at worst, it will cause a DivideByZero RealityBreakingParadox and omniversal ApocalypseHow.
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** Doesn't work. It ''does'' waste a wish ([[MindScrew until it doesn't]]), but say the Djinn goes ahead and doesn't grant the wish, which means he did grant the wish, which means he didn't, which means he did... it's a ''very'' tricky attempt, since at best the Djinn will be retconned out of existence. Alternatively the Djinn will rewrite the universe's logic to fulfill the wish, or at worst, it will cause a DivideByZero and omniversal ApocalypseHow.
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** Doesn't work. It ''does'' waste a wish ([[MindScrew until it doesn't]]), but say the Djinn goes ahead and doesn't grant the wish, which means he did grant the wish, which means he didn't, which means he did... it's a ''very'' tricky attempt, since at best the Djinn will be [[PuffOfLogic retconned out of existence.existence]]. Alternatively the Djinn will rewrite the universe's logic to fulfill the wish, or at worst, it will cause a DivideByZero and omniversal ApocalypseHow.
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** Doesn't work. It ''does'' waste a wish ([[MindScrew until it doesn't]]), but say the Djinn goes ahead and doesn't grant the wish, which means he did grant the wish, which means he didn't, which means he did... it's a ''very'' tricky attempt, since at best the Djinn will be retconned out of existence. Alternatively the Djinn will rewrite the universe's logic to fulfill the wish, or at worst, it will cause a DivideByZero and omniversal ApocalypseHow.
** What's really interesting is that the Djinn ''was'' defeated through a LogicBomb tactic in the movie. Alex wishes for him to rewrite history, but he granted her third wish by doing so. So the Djinn were released, but they were never released, because they were released, because they were never released...
** What's really interesting is that the Djinn ''was'' defeated through a LogicBomb tactic in the movie. Alex wishes for him to rewrite history, but he granted her third wish by doing so. So the Djinn were released, but they were never released, because they were released, because they were never released...
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## The Djinn can only be defeated through wishes (at least until the sequels...), so the temptation to try it is natural. The guard for instance did sort of beat the Djinn at his own game by wishing for him to leave (except since he's not the one who freed him, he still has to give his soul up anyway, and the Djinn can still return later). It's his taunt to the Djinn afterwards that undid it.
## Corrupting wishes is just a fun game, hence the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=8izhward9hxaz5cihbmrw5q1&page=1 forum thread]] dedicated to it.
:: As a side note, the Djinn is [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy patently aware of how dangerous these attempts are]]. He openly scoffs at the protagonist for thinking she could outsmart an eternal being from between dimensions.
## The Djinn can only be defeated through wishes (at least until the sequels...), so the temptation to try it is natural. The guard for instance did sort of beat the Djinn at his own game by wishing for him to leave (except since he's not the one who freed him, he still has to give his soul up anyway, and the Djinn can still return later). It's his taunt to the Djinn afterwards that undid it.
## Corrupting wishes is just a fun game, hence the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=8izhward9hxaz5cihbmrw5q1&page=1 forum thread]] dedicated to it.
:: As a side note, the Djinn is [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy patently aware of how dangerous these attempts are]]. He openly scoffs at the protagonist for thinking she could outsmart an eternal being from between dimensions.
