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* So Mr. Nezzer was removed from the series when Dreamworks bought it and was replaced by Ichabeezer. The reason for this is that Dreamworks had a policy that characters could only be voiced by actors of their own ethnicity and Mr. Nezzer was voiced by Phil Vischer doing an imitation of [[TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Oogie Boogie]] who was voiced by a black actor. But then why was Mr. Lunt who is a Hispanic character, still voiced by Phil Vischer who is white, kept in the series? Also, why didn’t they just give Mr. Nezzer a new voice actor instead of writing him out of the series? After all, he wouldn’t be the only character who got a new voice actor when Dreamworks bought the series.

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* So Mr. Nezzer was removed from the series when Dreamworks bought it and was replaced by Ichabeezer. The reason for this is that Dreamworks had a policy that characters could only be voiced by actors of their own ethnicity and Mr. Nezzer was voiced by Phil Vischer doing an imitation of [[TheNightmareBeforeChristmas [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Oogie Boogie]] who was voiced by a black actor. But then why was Mr. Lunt who is a Hispanic character, still voiced by Phil Vischer who is white, kept in the series? Also, why didn’t they just give Mr. Nezzer a new voice actor instead of writing him out of the series? After all, he wouldn’t be the only character who got a new voice actor when Dreamworks bought the series.
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* So Mr. Nezzer was removed from the series when Dreamworks bought it and was replaced by Ichabeezer. The reason for this is that Dreamworks had a policy that characters could only be voiced by actors of their own ethnicity and Mr. Nezzer was voiced by Phil Vischer doing an imitation of [[TheNightmareBefore Christmas Oogie Boogie]] who was voiced by a black actor. But then why was Mr. Lunt who is a Hispanic character, still voiced by Phil Vischer who is white, kept in the series? Also, why didn’t they just give Mr. Nezzer a new voice actor instead of writing him out of the series? After all, he wouldn’t be the only character who got a new voice actor when Dreamworks bought the series.

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* So Mr. Nezzer was removed from the series when Dreamworks bought it and was replaced by Ichabeezer. The reason for this is that Dreamworks had a policy that characters could only be voiced by actors of their own ethnicity and Mr. Nezzer was voiced by Phil Vischer doing an imitation of [[TheNightmareBefore Christmas [[TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Oogie Boogie]] who was voiced by a black actor. But then why was Mr. Lunt who is a Hispanic character, still voiced by Phil Vischer who is white, kept in the series? Also, why didn’t they just give Mr. Nezzer a new voice actor instead of writing him out of the series? After all, he wouldn’t be the only character who got a new voice actor when Dreamworks bought the series.
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* So Mr. Nezzer was removed from the series when Dreamworks bought it and was replaced by Ichabeezer. The reason for this is that Dreamworks had a policy that characters could only be voiced by actors of their own ethnicity and Mr. Nezzer was voiced by Phil Vischer doing an imitation of [[TheNightmareBefore Christmas Oogie Boogie]] who was voiced by a black actor. But then why was Mr. Lunt who is a Hispanic character, still voiced by Phil Vischer who is white, kept in the series? Also, why didn’t they just give Mr. Nezzer a new voice actor instead of writing him out of the series? After all, he wouldn’t be the only character who got a new voice actor when Dreamworks bought the series.
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** Have you ever seen an asparagus patch? One root can produce ten or more spears.

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** [[FridgeBrilliance Have you ever seen an asparagus patch? One root can produce ten or more spears.spears]].
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** Remember, this is a Christian animated program. While [=VeggieTales=] is obliviously one of the most profitable ones out there, Christian programs in general are much lower budget and have much less advanced animation programs. Animating a large realisticly sized wall woukd not be very easy.

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** Remember, this is a Christian animated program. While [=VeggieTales=] is obliviously one of the most profitable ones out there, Christian programs in general are much lower budget and have much less advanced animation programs. Animating a large realisticly realistically sized wall woukd would not be very easy.
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** It's not right to remove the Christian aspect from VeggieTales. It would be like someone buying Dora the Explora and removing everytime she speaks Spanish. It's a crutial aspect of the franchize and one of the most important reasons WesternAnimation/VeggieTales was created in the first place. If you don't want Christian morals than don't get involved with [=VeggieTales=]. NBC has enough money to start new projects and hire animators who want to teach religiously moot morals. [=VeggieTales=] is clearly animated in cheaper, maybe even over the counter programs so starting a new program would not be too hard for NBC. Keep [=VeggieTales=] religious because religion was the reason it was made in the first place.

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** It's not right to remove the Christian aspect from VeggieTales.[=VeggieTales=]. It would be like someone buying Dora the Explora and removing everytime she speaks Spanish. It's a crutial aspect of the franchize and one of the most important reasons WesternAnimation/VeggieTales was created in the first place. If you don't want Christian morals than don't get involved with [=VeggieTales=]. NBC has enough money to start new projects and hire animators who want to teach religiously moot morals. [=VeggieTales=] is clearly animated in cheaper, maybe even over the counter programs so starting a new program would not be too hard for NBC. Keep [=VeggieTales=] religious because religion was the reason it was made in the first place.
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** It's not right to remove the Christian aspect from VeggieTales. It would be like someone buying Dora the Explora and removing everytime she speaks Spanish. It's a crutial aspect of the franchize and one of the most important reasons VeggieTales was created in the first place. If you don't want Christian morals than don't get involved with VeggieTales. NBC has enough money to start new projects and hire animators who want to teach religiously moot morals. VeggieTales is clearly animated in cheaper, maybe even over the counter programs so starting a new program would not be too hard for NBC. Keep VeggieTales religious because religion was the reason it was made in the first place.

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** It's not right to remove the Christian aspect from VeggieTales. It would be like someone buying Dora the Explora and removing everytime she speaks Spanish. It's a crutial aspect of the franchize and one of the most important reasons VeggieTales WesternAnimation/VeggieTales was created in the first place. If you don't want Christian morals than don't get involved with VeggieTales.[=VeggieTales=]. NBC has enough money to start new projects and hire animators who want to teach religiously moot morals. VeggieTales [=VeggieTales=] is clearly animated in cheaper, maybe even over the counter programs so starting a new program would not be too hard for NBC. Keep VeggieTales [=VeggieTales=] religious because religion was the reason it was made in the first place.



** Remember, this is a Christian animated program. While VeggieTales is obliviously one of the most profitable ones out there, Christian programs in general are much lower budget and have much less advanced animation programs. Animating a large realisticly sized wall woukd not be very easy.

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** Remember, this is a Christian animated program. While VeggieTales [=VeggieTales=] is obliviously one of the most profitable ones out there, Christian programs in general are much lower budget and have much less advanced animation programs. Animating a large realisticly sized wall woukd not be very easy.
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** It's not right to remove the Christian aspect from VeggieTales. It would be like someone buying Dora the Explora and removing everytime she speaks Spanish. It's a crutial aspect of the franchize and one of the most important reasons VeggieTales was created in the first place. If you don't want Christian morals than don't get involved with VeggieTales. NBC has enough money to start new projects and hire animators who want to teach religiously moot morals. VeggieTales is clearly animated in cheaper, maybe even over the counter programs so starting a new program would not be too hard for NBC. Keep VeggieTales religious because religion was the reason it was made in the first place.


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** Remember, this is a Christian animated program. While VeggieTales is obliviously one of the most profitable ones out there, Christian programs in general are much lower budget and have much less advanced animation programs. Animating a large realisticly sized wall woukd not be very easy.

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** On that note, what does ''{{Hamlet}}'' have to do with sharing, the topic of this particular episode?



* Also from The Toy That Saved Christmas, during the climax, [[spoiler: once our protagonists were freed from being tied up, why didn't they just jump sled instead of racing to tie the ropes back together to lasso a tree? And why didn't Mr. Nezzer jump sled when he saw they were OK?]]

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* ** Also from The Toy That Saved Christmas, during the climax, [[spoiler: once our protagonists were freed from being tied up, why didn't they just jump sled instead of racing to tie the ropes back together to lasso a tree? And why didn't Mr. Nezzer jump sled when he saw they were OK?]]OK?]]
*From the episode "Princess and the Popstar": did the writers forget that Laura, "Princess" here, already had a brother named Lenny? They couldn't have him play Pepper? They had to create a brand new character to play Laura's character's brother? They had no problem recoloring the nina from "Minnesota Cuke and the Search for Noah's Umbrella", so why couldn't they reuse Lenny?
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* Also from The Toy That Saved Christmas, during the climax, [[spoiler: once our protagonists were freed from being tied up, why didn't they just jump sled instead of racing to tie the ropes back together to lasso a tree? And why didn't Mr. Nezzer jump sled when he saw they were OK?]]
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*** Franchise Original Sin is in full effect here. people may not remember there were parody episodes as well as those based on bible stories. heck the first episode ever was an original story that had Danial and the lion's den slapped on for good measure. it was just they became more common after the ballad of big joe up until the noah episode.
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***** Really, it depends on what "the purpose" is, and whether that's determined by WordOfGod or the viewer. Phil Vischer would probably say yes, since he made the show to teach explicitly Christian values, Bible verses and all. But if you watch the show for religion-free moral messages (easier with some episodes than others) or simply for entertainment, you probably wouldn't mind NBC's editing.
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**** Actually, he's voiced by the same person who voices Larry. If you listen closely, you can hear it's the same inflection and everything, just heavily modulated.
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** The kids are probably to naive to know any better, and the goal of Nezzer's toy factory at least is quite clearly to make money. Up until his HeelFaceTurn, he wouldn't have given a shit if some dumb kid got hurt by his toys, especially since he was willing to outright kill Junior and his friends to prevent his marketing ploy from falling through.

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** The kids are probably to too naive to know any better, and the goal of Nezzer's toy factory at least is quite clearly to make money. Up until his HeelFaceTurn, he wouldn't have given a shit if some dumb kid got hurt by his toys, especially since he was willing to outright kill Junior and his friends to prevent his marketing ploy from falling through.
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** The kids are probably to naive to know any better, and the goal of Nezzer's toy factory at least is quite clearly to make money. Up until his HeelFaceTurn, he wouldn't have given a shit if some dumb kid got hurt by his toys, especially since he was willing to outright kill Junior and his friends to prevent his marketing ploy from falling through.
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* Why didn`t those whiny kids in the Toy That Saved Christmas ever think that ''Buzzszaw'' Louie could be dangerous? Nezzer himself says the saw is full functional,and the living Louie opts to have it removed. I thought the whole point of a tpy factory was to entertain kids, not turn them into a salad!

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* Why didn`t those whiny kids in the Toy That Saved Christmas ever think that ''Buzzszaw'' Louie could be dangerous? Nezzer himself says the saw is full functional,and the living Louie opts to have it removed. I thought the whole point of a tpy factory was to entertain kids, not turn them into a salad!
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* Why didn`t those whiny kids in the Toy That Saved Christmas ever think that ''Buzzszaw'' Louie could be dangerous? Nezzer himself says the saw is full functional,and the living Louie opts to have it removed. I thought the whole point of a tpy factory was to entertain kids, not turn them into a salad!
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*** Most children's christian entertainment is horrifyingly bad. Go to your local christian bookstore and see how long you can watch most of those things, because they usually treat viewers like morons. WesternAnimation/Veggietales and the few other good ones are a breath of fresh air to someone like me.

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*** Most children's christian entertainment is horrifyingly bad. Go to your local christian bookstore and see how long you can watch most of those things, because they usually treat viewers like morons. WesternAnimation/Veggietales Veggietales and the few other good ones are a breath of fresh air to someone like me.
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**** Not necessarily. This Jewish troper's mother showed troper and her siblings plenty of WesternAnimation/Veggietales videos, but turned them off before QWERTY could put up a Bible quote. We still got the moral lessons, though.

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**** Not necessarily. This Jewish troper's mother showed troper and her siblings plenty of WesternAnimation/Veggietales Veggietales videos, but turned them off before QWERTY could put up a Bible quote. We still got the moral lessons, though.

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*** Again, his "voice" is beeps, semi high pitched beeps but not really enough that it would mark him as a girl. And again how the heck does he act feminine? He sits there. That's like walking out side and saying "That rock looks like a girl rock".
*** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint There's a girl rock in the movie.]]

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*** Again, his "voice" is beeps, semi high pitched beeps but not really enough that it would mark him as a girl. And again how the heck does he act feminine? He sits there. That's like walking out side and saying "That rock looks like a girl rock".
*** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint There's a girl rock in the movie.]]
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*** As I recall, Big Idea's motto used to be (and may still be) "Sunday morning values, Saturday morning fun."
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**** So, what, the Silly Songs ''weren't'' [[EarWorm EarWorms]] because they were being played in between scenes from bible stories? It ''wasn't'' entertaining to watch them get bombarded with [[ItMakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext slushies]] while the french peas sung another {{EarWorm}} about knocking their wall down? Larry suddenly dropping down and trying to speak through sand ''isn't'' funny because when he comes back up and spits sand out of his mouth he reveals he said something religious? The stuff suddenly becomes entertaining just because it's not Christian?



* Where'd the Petunia person come from? I didn't see her in old episodes so she's at least vaguely new, but she shows up in basically every episode. Was there some sort of explanation for her having about as much screen time as Larry while older characters get smaller parts?
** She's been around since 2004. She's a girl, and Larry's LoveInterest.
** Larry's love interest? In canon? No joke? Veggie Tales is officially Ruined FOREVER as far as I'm concerned. New question: Why the heck does Larry need a love interest?
*** In any episodes where Petunia's character needs a love interest, it's Larry's character, and vice-versa. I don't know if this actually applies to Larry and Petunia.
**** She originated to tell the story of Ruth in a medieval setting (Which Word of God claims is a prequel to King George and the Duck) because they didn't have any other female characters to use. Larry was Boaz in that episode.
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** Larry's love interest? In canon? No joke? Veggie Tales is officially {{Ruined FOREVER}} as far as I'm concerned. New question: Why the heck does Larry need a love interest?

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** Larry's love interest? In canon? No joke? Veggie Tales is officially {{Ruined FOREVER}} Ruined FOREVER as far as I'm concerned. New question: Why the heck does Larry need a love interest?
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** You can still teach lessons about morality without religion O.o

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** You can still teach lessons about morality without religion O.oreligion.
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* What's with TheMovie's? I didn't know anything of the series for years, and I loved the movies. I was surprised to find out the show as Christian. The movies seem like any other fun kids movie, it's mainstream and so not religious.

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* What's with TheMovie's? [[TheMovie the movies]]? I didn't know anything of the series for years, and I loved the movies. I was surprised to find out the show as Christian. The movies seem like any other fun kids movie, it's mainstream and so not religious.
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**** She originated to tell the story of Ruth in a medieval setting (Which Word of God claims is a prequel to King George and the Duck) because they didn't have any other female characters to use. Larry was Boaz in that episode.

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**** Not necessarily. This Jewish troper's mother showed troper and her siblings plenty of Veggietales videos, but turned them off before QWERTY could put up a Bible quote. We still got the moral lessons, though.

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**** Not necessarily. This Jewish troper's mother showed troper and her siblings plenty of Veggietales WesternAnimation/Veggietales videos, but turned them off before QWERTY could put up a Bible quote. We still got the moral lessons, though.



* This troper is rather sad that they've, for the most part, stopped doing videos of Bible stories and have been just doing parodies, because she distinctly remembers VeggieTales for it's Bible stories and not so much the parodies, maybe they ran out of stories because they've all be retold in some form or another. Then again the Bible does have R-rated material in it, but never mind

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* This troper is rather sad that they've, for the most part, stopped doing videos of Bible stories and have been just doing parodies, because she distinctly remembers VeggieTales WesternAnimation/VeggieTales for it's Bible stories and not so much the parodies, maybe they ran out of stories because they've all be retold in some form or another. Then again the Bible does have R-rated material in it, but never mind



* Why is VeggieTales a Christian series anyway? It seems like any other cartoon series, with random Christian references put in.

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* Why is VeggieTales WesternAnimation/VeggieTales a Christian series anyway? It seems like any other cartoon series, with random Christian references put in.



*** Most children's christian entertainment is horrifyingly bad. Go to your local christian bookstore and see how long you can watch most of those things, because they usually treat viewers like morons. Veggietales and the few other good ones are a breath of fresh air to someone like me.

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*** Most children's christian entertainment is horrifyingly bad. Go to your local christian bookstore and see how long you can watch most of those things, because they usually treat viewers like morons. Veggietales WesternAnimation/Veggietales and the few other good ones are a breath of fresh air to someone like me.
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** Also Jericho was way bigger in real life.
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** Agreed, this troper misses the Bible stories. They haven't run out of material (as far as I know, I have not seen a story about Samuel, Adam and Eve, Elijah and Elisha, the days of Moses' leadership in the desert, to name a few), there are a lot of stories in the Bible, but they have to make it appeal to the kids without losing the message. But they have to get the idea green-lighted with the person in charge of the company so they can put money into the project. If the person says "no" to the projected idea, then they have to go back to the drawing board. That could be why they're doing parodies, they may not be allowed to use Bible stories anymore because they (Phil Vischer and Mike Nawrocki) have no control over the material and what to put in it.
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*** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint There's a girl rock in the movie.]]

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