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** Tron and Beck together barely managed to subdue Cyrus and he still escaped. Tron back then had no other security program with the training needed to aid him and had to do with SealedEvilInACan.
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** Tron and Beck together barely managed to subdue Cyrus and he still escaped. Tron back then had no other security program with the training needed to aid him and had to do with SealedEvilInACan.SealedEvilInACan.
** A couple bits of FridgeBrilliance. First off, Tron is a Creator/{{Disney}} hero, even if he did some [[TookALevelInCynic level grinding in cynic]], so he may have believed there was a possibility Cyrus could be redeemed. More cynically, Cyrus's brand of OmnicidalManiac crazy ''would'' actually work, nuking the Grid and everyone/everything on it if there was a chance Clu was going to end up in the User world (like he tried in ''Film/TronLegacy''). The Grid was also plagued with bugs and was on the verge of collapse before Clu intervened, if ''Betrayal'' was any indication, as Flynn was far too distracted to make the damn thing run properly. It's possible that Tron had a better understanding than anyone about how to exploit the bugs and assorted mess Flynn left behind.
** A couple bits of FridgeBrilliance. First off, Tron is a Creator/{{Disney}} hero, even if he did some [[TookALevelInCynic level grinding in cynic]], so he may have believed there was a possibility Cyrus could be redeemed. More cynically, Cyrus's brand of OmnicidalManiac crazy ''would'' actually work, nuking the Grid and everyone/everything on it if there was a chance Clu was going to end up in the User world (like he tried in ''Film/TronLegacy''). The Grid was also plagued with bugs and was on the verge of collapse before Clu intervened, if ''Betrayal'' was any indication, as Flynn was far too distracted to make the damn thing run properly. It's possible that Tron had a better understanding than anyone about how to exploit the bugs and assorted mess Flynn left behind.
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* Why (and how) did Tron trap Cyrus in his mirror world instead of just derezzing him? This is something that's never been mentioned, referenced, or even hinted at being possible anywhere else in canon that I'm aware of.
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* Why (and how) did Tron trap Cyrus in his mirror world instead of just derezzing him? This is something that's never been mentioned, referenced, or even hinted at being possible anywhere else in canon that I'm aware of.of.
** Tron and Beck together barely managed to subdue Cyrus and he still escaped. Tron back then had no other security program with the training needed to aid him and had to do with SealedEvilInACan.
** Tron and Beck together barely managed to subdue Cyrus and he still escaped. Tron back then had no other security program with the training needed to aid him and had to do with SealedEvilInACan.
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** Who says he hasn't? The next time they meet ("Terminal") he has all the time in the world to have her executed (or so he thinks) since he takes over the garage. And he outright orders her execution at the end. But yes, his lack of reaction in "Tagged" is still a plot hole.
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** Who says he hasn't? The next time they meet ("Terminal") he has all the time in the world to have her executed (or so he thinks) since he takes over the garage. And he outright orders her execution at the end. But yes, his lack of reaction in "Tagged" is still a plot hole.hole.
* Why (and how) did Tron trap Cyrus in his mirror world instead of just derezzing him? This is something that's never been mentioned, referenced, or even hinted at being possible anywhere else in canon that I'm aware of.
* Why (and how) did Tron trap Cyrus in his mirror world instead of just derezzing him? This is something that's never been mentioned, referenced, or even hinted at being possible anywhere else in canon that I'm aware of.
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** He saw no proof that the provoker ''wasn't'' an ISO. All he saw was a shadowy figure running away from behind the crowd.
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* Also, why didn't Tron do nothing to convince Dyson that it wasn't the ISOs who caused the riot? He could have showed him the memory where he notices a provoker among the ISO crowd.
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* Also, why didn't Tron do nothing anything to convince Dyson that it wasn't the ISOs [=ISOs=] who caused the riot? He could have showed him the memory where he notices a provoker among the ISO crowd.
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* Also, why didn't Tron do nothing to convince Dyson that it wasn't the ISOs who caused the riot? He could have showed him the memory where he notices a provoker among the ISO crowd.
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* In "Tagged", what possessed Mara to go into Tesler's ship with Beck without her visor on? Pavel definitely knows who she is and where she works, and could easily have recognised her if he'd gotten a better look at her. Come to think of it, why ''didn't'' Pavel recognise her? He clearly sees her, albeit briefly, when she saves Moog and Rasket along with Beck.
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* In "Tagged", what possessed Mara to go into Tesler's ship with Beck without her visor on? Pavel definitely knows who she is and where she works, and could easily have recognised her if he'd gotten a better look at her. Come to think of it, why ''didn't'' Pavel recognise her? He clearly sees her, albeit briefly, when she saves Moog and Rasket along with Beck.Beck.
** Who says he hasn't? The next time they meet ("Terminal") he has all the time in the world to have her executed (or so he thinks) since he takes over the garage. And he outright orders her execution at the end. But yes, his lack of reaction in "Tagged" is still a plot hole.
** Who says he hasn't? The next time they meet ("Terminal") he has all the time in the world to have her executed (or so he thinks) since he takes over the garage. And he outright orders her execution at the end. But yes, his lack of reaction in "Tagged" is still a plot hole.
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** Programs can actually use third person camera mode.
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** Programs can actually use third person camera mode.mode.
* In "Tagged", what possessed Mara to go into Tesler's ship with Beck without her visor on? Pavel definitely knows who she is and where she works, and could easily have recognised her if he'd gotten a better look at her. Come to think of it, why ''didn't'' Pavel recognise her? He clearly sees her, albeit briefly, when she saves Moog and Rasket along with Beck.
* In "Tagged", what possessed Mara to go into Tesler's ship with Beck without her visor on? Pavel definitely knows who she is and where she works, and could easily have recognised her if he'd gotten a better look at her. Come to think of it, why ''didn't'' Pavel recognise her? He clearly sees her, albeit briefly, when she saves Moog and Rasket along with Beck.
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** [[EpilepticTrees Maybe that's how it sounds when a program sings]]? They are the personifications of computer programs, after all, so they probably sound like they've been run through autotune, anyway.
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* We have seen numerous times that a memory file in a program's disc does not show a video from the program's perspective. This is not logical.
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* We have seen numerous times that a memory file in a program's disc does not show a video from the program's perspective. This is not logical.logical.
** Programs can actually use third person camera mode.
** Programs can actually use third person camera mode.
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** Light walls de-rezz vehicles that hit them along with the programs using the vehicles.
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** Light walls de-rezz vehicles that hit them along with the programs using the vehicles.vehicles.
*** It does make sense when they are pursued by a program on a light cycle, but in ''Rendevous'', for example, Beck and Paige were not.
* We have seen numerous times that a memory file in a program's disc does not show a video from the program's perspective. This is not logical.
*** It does make sense when they are pursued by a program on a light cycle, but in ''Rendevous'', for example, Beck and Paige were not.
* We have seen numerous times that a memory file in a program's disc does not show a video from the program's perspective. This is not logical.
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* Why do programs project light walls from their light cycles when they're fleeing from someone? It only makes them easier to track.
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* Why do programs project light walls from their light cycles when they're fleeing from someone? It only makes them easier to track.track.
** Light walls de-rezz vehicles that hit them along with the programs using the vehicles.
** Light walls de-rezz vehicles that hit them along with the programs using the vehicles.
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* Why are there musicians in the Grid, but no singers? It can't be that they aren't programmed to, since Paige was dabbling in music despite being a medic (and later gained military training). Is it just that no one has put two and two together that voices can make music?
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* Why are there musicians in the Grid, but no singers? It can't be that they aren't programmed to, since Paige was dabbling in music despite being a medic (and later gained military training). Is it just that no one has put two and two together that voices can make music?music?
* Why do programs project light walls from their light cycles when they're fleeing from someone? It only makes them easier to track.
* Why do programs project light walls from their light cycles when they're fleeing from someone? It only makes them easier to track.
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** Even if one were to assume getting a fresh disc were a simple matter (I doubt it, based on everything Sam went through), there remains the problem that Beck's disc had his entire time as the Renegade and his knowledge of Tron stored on it. The longer they wait, the more likely the thief is to sell it to the occupation.
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** Even if one were to assume getting a fresh disc were a simple matter (I doubt it, based on everything Sam went through), there remains the problem that Beck's disc had his entire time as the Renegade and his knowledge of Tron stored on it. The longer they wait, the more likely the thief is to sell it to the occupation.occupation.
* Why are there musicians in the Grid, but no singers? It can't be that they aren't programmed to, since Paige was dabbling in music despite being a medic (and later gained military training). Is it just that no one has put two and two together that voices can make music?
* Why are there musicians in the Grid, but no singers? It can't be that they aren't programmed to, since Paige was dabbling in music despite being a medic (and later gained military training). Is it just that no one has put two and two together that voices can make music?
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** I have the feeling he didn't ''ask'' Flynn to heal him since he already turned to Clu's side.
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*** Well, now Flynn just acted like a [[JerkassGods Jerkass God]] and sealed his own downfall.
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* In both movies, programs are given new Identity Disks. In the second movie, we even see that it loads memories onto the disk. Why didn't Tron and Beck just try to get one of those? Sure, they had reason to get Beck's original disk back, but getting a new one would have kept Beck from becoming a liability during the search.
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* In both movies, programs are given new Identity Disks. In the second movie, we even see that it loads memories onto the disk. Why didn't Tron and Beck just try to get one of those? Sure, they had reason to get Beck's original disk back, but getting a new one would have kept Beck from becoming a liability during the search.search.
** Even if one were to assume getting a fresh disc were a simple matter (I doubt it, based on everything Sam went through), there remains the problem that Beck's disc had his entire time as the Renegade and his knowledge of Tron stored on it. The longer they wait, the more likely the thief is to sell it to the occupation.
** Even if one were to assume getting a fresh disc were a simple matter (I doubt it, based on everything Sam went through), there remains the problem that Beck's disc had his entire time as the Renegade and his knowledge of Tron stored on it. The longer they wait, the more likely the thief is to sell it to the occupation.
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* In both movies, programs are given new Identity Disks. In the second movie, we even see that it loads memories onto the disk. Why didn't Tron and Beck just try to get one of those? Sure, they had reason to get Beck's original disk back, but getting a new one would have kept Beck from becoming a liability.
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* In both movies, programs are given new Identity Disks. In the second movie, we even see that it loads memories onto the disk. disk. Why didn't Tron and Beck just try to get one of those? those? Sure, they had reason to get Beck's original disk back, but getting a new one would have kept Beck from becoming a liability.liability during the search.
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** Flynn probably thought that Dyson would get the repair work done himself. I also doubt fixing his face would have done that much to sway Dyson's opinion.
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** Flynn probably thought that Dyson would get the repair work done himself. I also doubt fixing his face would have done that much to sway Dyson's opinion.opinion.
* In both movies, programs are given new Identity Disks. In the second movie, we even see that it loads memories onto the disk. Why didn't Tron and Beck just try to get one of those? Sure, they had reason to get Beck's original disk back, but getting a new one would have kept Beck from becoming a liability.
* In both movies, programs are given new Identity Disks. In the second movie, we even see that it loads memories onto the disk. Why didn't Tron and Beck just try to get one of those? Sure, they had reason to get Beck's original disk back, but getting a new one would have kept Beck from becoming a liability.
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* Why didn't Flynn cure Dyson's wound back in ''Scars''? That would have prevented Dyson's betrayal and the tons of drama that ensued.
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* Why didn't Flynn cure Dyson's wound back in ''Scars''? That would have prevented Dyson's betrayal and the tons of drama that ensued.ensued.
** Flynn probably thought that Dyson would get the repair work done himself. I also doubt fixing his face would have done that much to sway Dyson's opinion.
** Flynn probably thought that Dyson would get the repair work done himself. I also doubt fixing his face would have done that much to sway Dyson's opinion.
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* Why didn't Flynn cure Dyson's wound back in ''Scars''? That would have prevented Dyson's betrayal and the tns of drama that ensued.
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* Why didn't Flynn cure Dyson's wound back in ''Scars''? That would have prevented Dyson's betrayal and the tns tons of drama that ensued.
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** Link only reported Hopper and the lead worked out. There's no proof Link framed Hopper, and Tesler would just as soon pretend the debacle never happened.
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** Link only reported Hopper and the lead worked out. There's no proof Link framed Hopper, and Tesler would just as soon pretend the debacle never happened.happened.
* Why didn't Flynn cure Dyson's wound back in ''Scars''? That would have prevented Dyson's betrayal and the tns of drama that ensued.
* Why didn't Flynn cure Dyson's wound back in ''Scars''? That would have prevented Dyson's betrayal and the tns of drama that ensued.
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* Why wasn't Link arrested after the events of "The Reward"? I assume, given how Pavel planned it, that he got the blame for framing Hopper as the Renegade, so why is he still free after that episode?
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* Why wasn't Link arrested after the events of "The Reward"? I assume, given how Pavel planned it, that he got the blame for framing Hopper as the Renegade, so why is he still free after that episode?episode?
** Link only reported Hopper and the lead worked out. There's no proof Link framed Hopper, and Tesler would just as soon pretend the debacle never happened.
** Link only reported Hopper and the lead worked out. There's no proof Link framed Hopper, and Tesler would just as soon pretend the debacle never happened.
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