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* If the Rito are Zora evolved into birdfolk, why oh why do they look like more like Hylians with beaks?
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*** We're still confusing "smartest move" with "smartest available move" with regard to where Tetra was hidden, though. Ganondorf is already living on the surface of the Great Sea -- the King of Red Lions knows that nowhere up there is going to be safe enough for Tetra. In comparison, the sunken kingdom has remained untouched at the bottom of the sea for centuries, and as far as the heroes know, there's only one operational portal and it can only be opened at the whim of the gods, who aren't likely to do so for Ganondorf. This was the case of even the best option available being an incredibly risky one, but it was all they had to work with, given the circumstances.
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* What were the light arrows doing inside Ganon's Tower? They were presented to Link by Zelda in ''Ocarina of Time'', and Ganondorf had already been sealed away by the time he was returned to his childhood. Did he manage to steal them from Hyrule Castle after he escaped? If so, why bother hiding them inside his castle, instead of snapping them in two or tossing them into a pit?
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** This troper believes that the sages are making an exchange. Medli, child of the sky, goes to the Earth Temple while Makar, child of the earth, goes to the Wind Temple.

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** This **This troper believes that the sages are making an exchange. Medli, child of the sky, goes to the Earth Temple while Makar, child of the earth, goes to the Wind Temple.
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**This troper believes that the sages are making an exchange. Medli, child of the sky, goes to the Earth Temple while Makar, child of the earth, goes to the Wind Temple.
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** Maybe the King of Red Lions sailed to Dragon Roost while Link was fighting the Helmaroc King to ask for some backup in case something went wrong.
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** There can be a lot more to conducting music than just controlling the tempo. (Which Link is able to do regardless, since 6/4 songs play faster than 4/4 ones, and 4/4 ones faster than 3/4 ones do.) Conductors can also indicate the volume of each note (something Link can also do) or other factors of how they're produced. In-game, a note is still played regardless of Link's input, so by waving the baton, he's conducting in the sense that he's signifying how that note should sound. (Even if it sounds like a completely different note, that's still considered conducting.)
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** That's all well and good, but it's tangential to the original point. Even if Tetra wanted to become a queen, why would she be willing to become a living MacGuffin? I have a hard time believing someone would be so submissive to a legacy they just learned about that they would be willing to let themselves be so casually brushed aside, especially when they're as strong-willed as Tetra. It feels like CharacterDerailment based on what we saw of her prior.
** "Why would she become willing to become a living MacGuffin?" Because she's still a good person at heart, and doesn't want to see innocent people slaughtered by Ganondorf, people that, as descendants of those who once lived in Hyrule, she may now feel personally responsible for, even if they may not know it. Really, honestly, what are you expecting her to say at this point? I think you're just looking at Tetra's spunky, snarky exterior and assuming that that persona is all there is to her, which it's not, and really only serves to demean her overall character - this isn't CharacterDerailment; it's learning about a new side to the character that we've seen only hints of before.

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** That's all well and good, but it's tangential to the original point. Even if Tetra wanted to become a queen, why would she be willing to become a living MacGuffin? I have a hard time believing someone would be so submissive to a legacy they just learned about that they would be willing to let themselves be so casually brushed aside, especially when they're as strong-willed as Tetra. It feels like CharacterDerailment based on what we saw of her prior.
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** "Why would she become willing to become a living MacGuffin?" Because she's still a good person at heart, and doesn't want to see innocent people slaughtered by Ganondorf, people that, as descendants of those who once lived in Hyrule, she may now feel personally responsible for, even if they may not know it. Really, honestly, what are you expecting her to say at this point? I think you're just looking at Tetra's spunky, snarky exterior and assuming that that persona is all there is to her, which it's not, and really only serves to demean her overall character - this isn't CharacterDerailment; character; it's learning about a new side to the character that we've seen only hints of before.
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*** Pretty much, this. Sheik had a tan in ''Ocarina of Time'', which was lost once she turned back into Zelda, so I think we can pin this one on the Triforce of Wisdom altering her appearance. If it can make someone look enough like a boy to fool most people, it should be able to do something as simple as a change in skin tone.
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* How did Valoo know that Link would be at the Forsaken Fortress and would need rescuing from Ganondorf?
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*** You're really suggesting ''Aryll'' condemned an innocent man to poverty, for no reason other than because she could? Forget "petty" - that's downright sociopathic...and highly unlikely. It's much more probable that Tetra returned the girls quickly and then returned to the fortress to help Link fight Ganondorf. Her pirate ship could travel much faster than the King of Red Lions, for all we know.

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* One of the Rito, when spoken to on Dragon Roost Island towards the latter part of the game, says he's going to go to the Flight Control island for a break, before doing just that. Maybe the Rito don't treat it as a proper distance competition, as they are able to fly much further with ease, but a place to goof off a bit and have fun? Seeing how far they can get by gliding without flapping their wings, or trying to fly with their eyes closed to see if they can avoid the updrafts, that sort of thing.

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* ** One of the Rito, when spoken to on Dragon Roost Island towards the latter part of the game, says he's going to go to the Flight Control island for a break, before doing just that. Maybe the Rito don't treat it as a proper distance competition, as they are able to fly much further with ease, but a place to goof off a bit and have fun? Seeing how far they can get by gliding without flapping their wings, or trying to fly with their eyes closed to see if they can avoid the updrafts, that sort of thing.thing.
** The notion about the updrafts serving as obstacles is lent some credence by ''Breath of the Wild''. When Revali is practicing his Gale maneuver in one of the memories, we see that he has to stay in the center of the updraft or else he'll be tossed about by the fierce winds surrounding it. The same could apply here, except these updrafts are much larger and more turbulent, and can move around on their own.
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*** That or Ganon might know the Helmarok King is not that bright and that if he (Ganon) releases the girls the Helmarok King might get confused and bring him the same girl over and over again, so he keeps them there to "take them out of the running," so to speak
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** On the other hand...''Breath of the Wild'' does establish its Zoras as being an incredibly spiritual people, as Link needs to seek out a Zoran priest to preside over a wedding at one point. And the Earth Temple is clearly centered more around [[BigBoosHaunt death]] than earth itself, so maybe the royal family decided that a very spiritual person like Laruto would be best-suited to pray there.
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** Something to keep in mind, the Triforce pieces in addition to combining into a reality warping artifact grant some pretty awesome powers individually. Tetra by her own merits is very smart for her age but hotheaded and impulsive. Given King Daphnes isn't just magicing the Triforce of Wisdom fragment of out of nowhere he probably came to the conclusion that completing it would both keep the stray fragment from being found where ever it was hidden in flooded Hyrule by Ganondorf and would grant the most recent of his descendants a little more balance so she wouldn't get herself killed or captured. Of course he made a pretty serious error in assuming that anywhere in the sunken kingdom was safe even somewhere sacred but still it wasn't an unreasonable move.


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** As mentioned above the Triforce pieces aren't just there to be keys to the reality bending power of the completed triforce, they grant some pretty serious power individually. For example, the Triforce of Courage let an otherwise ordinary hylian child take quite a number of stabs or slices from the wielder of the Triforce of Power without dying. Given a backhand from this Ganondorf was enough to knock an average human unconscious for at least a few minutes he's packing some very serious strength that would have impaled Link easily if he hadn't been magically enhanced by the Triforce.
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** For what it's worth, ''Breath of the Wild'' implies that Hyrule exists at a much lower elevation than the landmasses surrounding it - its northern and western sides are bordered by a massive gorge, followed by extremely high cliffs that stretch on for miles beyond the in-game boundaries. If Hyrule were flooded enough that the majority of its mountains could still exist as islands, it's feasible that the rest of the world would've been spared from the rising sea level. (Which also explains where New Hyrule came from.)
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** Because a long-eared mother of three or old woman would have already passed the Triforce of Wisdom onto one of her children - ''Twilight Princess'' implies that it's InTheBlood and is passed on automatically. Ganondorf probably wasn't expecting that Zelda's heir would only have a fragment of it, so he figured that if he found the youngest link in the bloodline, she would have it inside her by default.
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** This game's sages don't seem to have as strong of a connection to the elements they're named after - Laruto and Medli are Earth Sages in the sense that it's their duty to pray to the Earth God, just as it is Fado and Makar's to the Wind God.
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*Along the same lines: why does Ganondorf assume that Zelda's heir will be a young girl? Why not a long-eared baby, a long-eared mother of three, a long-eared crone...?
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* Going off of a previous question about Medli and Makar, why was Laruto, a ''fish'', chosen to be the Sage of Earth?
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** Possibly a combination of distraction (Quill's sudden arrival to swoop in and get Link), impact force (Wings+Body mass to the head), and pulling Tetra free directly, rather than her struggling to free herself. As to carrying her, I would presume the Rito do have some form of talons or gripping capability with their feet that we don't see due to the artstyle.
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* How did Quill or Komali (whichever one rescued Tetra) manage to wrest her from Ganondorf's grasp so quickly and easily? He had her in a chokehold so tight that it knocked her unconscious, but then one of them swooped in and snatched her free like it was nothing. And how were they able to carry her, too? Neither of them have talons or anything, and Tetra wasn't conscious to hold onto them.
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** This troper had always assumed it was meant to be a yin and yang deal: each side possesses a bit of the other, therefore each temple has a sage of the opposite number.
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** And even without the literal DeusExMachina on their side, they were probably out longer than the time it took for them to breach the surface, especially since it's implied that the sound of Komali's wings is what woke them. There would've had to have been more time for Komali, Medli, the pirates, and Makar to all have gotten together and came across them.
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** Remember, Medli and Makar can both fly, and they probably left the temples once the flood started, which gave them more time to meet up with the pirates while Link and Tetra were fighting Ganondorf and listening to Daphnes's final words - odds are the sword could hold onto its power for at least a bit longer after the sages' prayers had ceased, especially since the gods knew what was happening and were actively trying to give Link and Tetra a future, as per the king's wish. That, and we don't really know where Ganon's Tower stands in relation to the waters above it.
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*Having just re-watched the ending of the game, something was off. I couldn't place it, until i realised: When the camera focuses on the pirate ship, it show Medli and Makar waving at Link and Tetra. Given they were in the Wind and Earth temples specifically so that the Master Sword would be strong enough to defeat Ganondorf, how did they get there so fast? The time between landing the final blow on Ganondorf and surfacing on the Great Sea can't have been more than, say, 10 minutes? How did the Pirates get to Headstone Island and Gale Isle in that timespan and manage to track down Link and Tetra?
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** Because Shiek is somebody who is in ''disguise''; we saw what OOT's Zelda looked like as a child, and Shiek is pretty different in many ways, which makes sense because changing things like eye color, skin color, physical build, and so on if possible are a big help when hiding. But Tetra is just assumed to be what she normally looks like, just a girl who is raised as a pirate instead of a princess, and thus having tanned skin and tomboyish clothes rather than pale, powdered skin and a dress. So they give her a dress, okay, we can live with that... but where does the skin come in?

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** Because Shiek is somebody who is in ''disguise''; we saw what OOT's [=OoT=]'s Zelda looked like as a child, and Shiek is pretty different in many ways, which makes sense because changing things like eye color, skin color, physical build, and so on if possible are a big help when hiding. But Tetra is just assumed to be what she normally looks like, just a girl who is raised as a pirate instead of a princess, and thus having tanned skin and tomboyish clothes rather than pale, powdered skin and a dress. So they give her a dress, okay, we can live with that... but where does the skin come in?



** The similarity is not that 'extreme' at all. Compare Zeldas from SS, OoT and TP, - differences galore! The latter even has a completely different hair color.

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** The similarity is not that 'extreme' at all. Compare Zeldas from SS, OoT [=OoT=] and TP, - differences galore! The latter even has a completely different hair color.



** You may also be able to assume that when the gods flooded the kingdom, they ''made'' mountains for the civilians to try and escape to. If we're to assume the Deku Tree in this game is the Deku Sprout from OOT, the land it was planted in had to have been raised into a mountain, unless he was replanted or something.

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** You may also be able to assume that when the gods flooded the kingdom, they ''made'' mountains for the civilians to try and escape to. If we're to assume the Deku Tree in this game is the Deku Sprout from OOT, [=OoT=], the land it was planted in had to have been raised into a mountain, unless he was replanted or something.



** OOT Link is generally thought to be around 16 or 17 years old post-timeskip at which point he is referred to as ‘adult’ Link, ''Twilight Princess'' Link is also placed at 16 or 17 and has an actual job and owns property so we can infer that Hyruleans probably come of age at 16 or 17 years old. WW Link’s actual age is never mentioned in-game but at least three other sources, also published by Nintendo, claim that he’s 12 which obviously does not constitute an adult by Hyrulean standards. WW Link, however, is from a culture where boys come of age at 12 so even though he’s young the fact that he’s come of age could technically make him old enough to wield the Master Sword.

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** OOT [=OoT=] Link is generally thought to be around 16 or 17 years old post-timeskip at which point he is referred to as ‘adult’ Link, ''Twilight Princess'' Link is also placed at 16 or 17 and has an actual job and owns property so we can infer that Hyruleans probably come of age at 16 or 17 years old. WW Link’s actual age is never mentioned in-game but at least three other sources, also published by Nintendo, claim that he’s 12 which obviously does not constitute an adult by Hyrulean standards. WW Link, however, is from a culture where boys come of age at 12 so even though he’s young the fact that he’s come of age could technically make him old enough to wield the Master Sword.



** Didn't I read somewhere that WW was set a hundred years after OoT?

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** Didn't I read somewhere that WW was set a hundred years after OoT?[=OoT=]?



** [[AllThereInTheManual Hyrule Historia]] (or at least [[http://www.glitterberri.com/hyrule-historia/page-123/ this translation of it]]) suggests that ''TWW'' takes place hundred'''s''' of years after ''OOT'', so there you go.

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** [[AllThereInTheManual Hyrule Historia]] (or at least [[http://www.glitterberri.com/hyrule-historia/page-123/ this translation of it]]) suggests that ''TWW'' takes place hundred'''s''' of years after ''OOT'', ''[=OoT=]'', so there you go.



* About the time gap between Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker: At the end of OoT Ganon was sealed by the Master Sword and the Sages. Somehow he escaped , terrorized Hyrule and then was sealed again when the Goddesses flooded the world. Then he escaped again, and finally Wind Waker's Link drew the Master Sword to defeat Ganon, thereby re-empowering him. But doesn't this mean, Ganon's power was still sealed by the Master Sword, when he was about to take over Hyrule? So the Hyruleans probably had the Sages, two parts of the Triforce, the entire population of Hyrule, and yet they couldn't defeat a weakened Ganon, because no ChosenOne was available?

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* About the time gap between Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker: At the end of OoT [=OoT=] Ganon was sealed by the Master Sword and the Sages. Somehow he escaped , terrorized Hyrule and then was sealed again when the Goddesses flooded the world. Then he escaped again, and finally Wind Waker's Link drew the Master Sword to defeat Ganon, thereby re-empowering him. But doesn't this mean, Ganon's power was still sealed by the Master Sword, when he was about to take over Hyrule? So the Hyruleans probably had the Sages, two parts of the Triforce, the entire population of Hyrule, and yet they couldn't defeat a weakened Ganon, because no ChosenOne was available?
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** Who knows, really? Maybe the Rito, when designing the postboxes, didn't want to go to the trouble of changing one word that only one postbox would be programmed to say, when there's a group of others programmed with something similar enough to work. Things like this aren't uncommon in real life, in this troper's experience.
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** Not really, considering that one time is on Windfall Island, which has its own postbox, and the other time is when you're mailing something for the Mail Center part-timer, so you have to go out to it. That said, it's not too bad, and I don't mind the postal fee. (Though pity the non-Rito who had to use that particular postbox before you cleared out the boulders and pushed down the block.) The question is more about terminology; the postbox is on the island, yet it says it's near it.
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** The answer to the first question depends on how deep the ocean is and how its size matches up with the Hyrule seen in other games; as well, the Koroks have been planting magical, island-expanding trees every year for quite some time, which would've aided in this process of finding enough land for people to settle on. Please note that most of the game's island are notably quite small, meaning the mountaintops they originated from probably would've been few and far between. As for New Hyrule, it could be that it was just an abnormally large plateau that existed before the Great Flood, or maybe the gods lowered Hyrule's elevation somehow or increased the elevation of other landmasses to spare most of the non-threatened world from the destruction caused by the flood.


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** Yes. Even if it's right there on the island, someone still has to go out to the postbox and collect it. You might think they could put the postbox inside the mail center to alleviate this problem, but that would mean less of a profit for them, so they just choose not to do it. (Although, having the postbox outside near the shore is more convenient for players, I suppose, when you keep in mind that you only ever have to send anything twice throughout the entire game.)


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* Why does the King of Red Lions not tell Link immediately that he's speaking to him through the Pirate's Charm? He does announce himself at one point later in the game, but the first several times he contacts Link, the game never makes clear that it's actually him. From an in-universe perspective, I understand that Link would recognize his voice once he heard it, but as a first-time player, I'd gotten to thinking that it was actually Gonzo talking to Link in Tetra's place - the item's description only says that Tetra can speak to you through it, so I didn't know to expect that the king could do it, too.
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