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** It's TruthInTelevision. Other animals can eat our flesh with no problem, but human cannibalism results in degenerative brain disease.

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** It's TruthInTelevision. Other animals can eat our flesh with no problem, but human cannibalism results in degenerative brain disease.disease.
*** Yes, but why? I thought that human meat was nutritionally the same as pork.
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* Why would frequent consumption of human flesh cause your hands to shake? Isn't human meat pretty much the same as any other meat?

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* Why would frequent consumption of human flesh cause your hands to shake? Isn't human meat pretty much the same as any other meat?meat?
** It's TruthInTelevision. Other animals can eat our flesh with no problem, but human cannibalism results in degenerative brain disease.
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** You have to have a keen eye, but you can see the bullet barely (we're talking ''millimetres'') misses him, and instead tears a hold in his hoodie.

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** You have to have a keen eye, but you can see the bullet barely (we're talking ''millimetres'') misses him, and instead tears a hold in his hoodie.hoodie.
* Why would frequent consumption of human flesh cause your hands to shake? Isn't human meat pretty much the same as any other meat?
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** The Bible's a culturally important work and worth preserving. That said, I sort of hope Eli conveniently forgot the bits about killing followers of other faiths and gay people, under what circumstances you can enslave people, etc.



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**** It was more obvious in a movie theater with high quality surround sound but if you watch (and listen) closely you can tell [[spoiler: that Eli is shooting at the sound of his attackers]].
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*** You must not know much about the Bible OR the Koran.
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* I'm quite sure why it happened, but I want to be sure: Did the second bullet that Carnegie's dragon shot actually [[ImmuneToBullets Bounce off the back of Eli's head?]] Cause Divine Protection is one thing, but that would be awesome.

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* I'm quite sure why it happened, but I want to be sure: Did the second bullet that Carnegie's dragon shot actually [[ImmuneToBullets Bounce off the back of Eli's head?]] Cause Divine Protection is one thing, but that would be awesome.awesome.
** You have to have a keen eye, but you can see the bullet barely (we're talking ''millimetres'') misses him, and instead tears a hold in his hoodie.
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* Is it me or will Carnegie's town wind up worse than it was now that there's no authority keeping people in line? When he's looking out onto his bar being looted, we see a guard tied up and hanging by his ankles from the ceiling, the bartender dead and all of Carnegie's hookers are trying in vain to fight off some would-be rapists. InferredHolocaust on a miniature level, perhaps?

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* Is it me or will Carnegie's town wind up worse than it was now that there's no authority keeping people in line? When he's looking out onto his bar being looted, we see a guard tied up and hanging by his ankles from the ceiling, the bartender dead and all of Carnegie's hookers are trying in vain to fight off some would-be rapists. InferredHolocaust on a miniature level, perhaps?perhaps?

*I'm quite sure why it happened, but I want to be sure: Did the second bullet that Carnegie's dragon shot actually [[ImmuneToBullets Bounce off the back of Eli's head?]] Cause Divine Protection is one thing, but that would be awesome.
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*** Do you know what bugs me? That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith? Plato? And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate, actually that makes it worse, because we didn't see a movie about any of these book we saw a movie about the Bible. Oh and by the way, I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times. And the Torah and Quran. Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destroyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe. NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!
**** Because clearly countries have never been conquered through knowledge of chemistry or biology.
*** Finding out that the oh so important book was the Bible and not something actually useful to a post-apocalyptic society, like a book on medicine or agriculture, killed any desire I had to see this movie.
**** Except the harsher UV rays from the hole in the Ozone layer would probably make old knowledge about agriculture less useful and it's not like a book on medicine is gonna help when you're in the middle of the desert with a bullet in your head. Rather, I think they chose the Bible because they wanted to highlight the importance of faith when all hope seems lost.
**** The movie makes it very clear at the end that the group at Alcatraz are all about spreading information, not faiths. If Eli had had anything else, it would have been just as precious to them. Being a religious text made the majority of the movie's plot, or was the farmhouse fight not worth Carnegie going after a book that could be used to influence others by faith?
*** Uh... Eli isn't perfect, and Carnegie could have used it for bad. '''THERE ISN'T A PARABLE THAT'S SIMILAR TO ELI'S'''.
*** Someone's ComplainingAboutThingsYouHate.
*** Talk about HollywoodAtheist.
*** Whoever said it was the "best" book to save? There's only a few characters who even know what it is, and of those Eli himself is a believer and certainly wouldn't agree that the Bible is evil, Carnegie WANTS to use it for evil, and the librarian at the end clearly does NOT see it as THE one book, but one out of many.

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*** * Do you know what bugs me? That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith? Plato? And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate, actually that makes it worse, because we didn't see a movie about any of these book we saw a movie about the Bible. Oh and by the way, I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times. And the Torah and Quran. Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destroyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe. NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!
**** ** Because clearly countries have never been conquered through knowledge of chemistry or biology.
*** ** Finding out that the oh so important book was the Bible and not something actually useful to a post-apocalyptic society, like a book on medicine or agriculture, killed any desire I had to see this movie.
**** *** Except the harsher UV rays from the hole in the Ozone layer would probably make old knowledge about agriculture less useful and it's not like a book on medicine is gonna help when you're in the middle of the desert with a bullet in your head. Rather, I think they chose the Bible because they wanted to highlight the importance of faith when all hope seems lost.
**** ** The movie makes it very clear at the end that the group at Alcatraz are all about spreading information, not faiths. If Eli had had anything else, it would have been just as precious to them. Being a religious text made the majority of the movie's plot, or was the farmhouse fight not worth Carnegie going after a book that could be used to influence others by faith?
*** ** Uh... Eli isn't perfect, and Carnegie could have used it for bad. '''THERE ISN'T A PARABLE THAT'S SIMILAR TO ELI'S'''.
*** ** Someone's ComplainingAboutThingsYouHate.
*** ** Talk about HollywoodAtheist.
*** ** Whoever said it was the "best" book to save? There's only a few characters who even know what it is, and of those Eli himself is a believer and certainly wouldn't agree that the Bible is evil, Carnegie WANTS to use it for evil, and the librarian at the end clearly does NOT see it as THE one book, but one out of many.
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* is it just me, or was GaryOldman doing his best [[{{Deadwood}} Ian]] [[{{Kings}} McShane]] impression for this movie? Not much of a complaint as I like both actors, but when I look back on any given scene, I keep picturing McShane in Oldman's place.

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* is it just me, or was GaryOldman doing his best [[{{Deadwood}} Ian]] [[{{Kings}} McShane]] impression for this movie? Not much of a complaint as I like both actors, but when I look back on any given scene, I keep picturing McShane in Oldman's place.place.
* Is it me or will Carnegie's town wind up worse than it was now that there's no authority keeping people in line? When he's looking out onto his bar being looted, we see a guard tied up and hanging by his ankles from the ceiling, the bartender dead and all of Carnegie's hookers are trying in vain to fight off some would-be rapists. InferredHolocaust on a miniature level, perhaps?
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** Well that and there was a person on the main page that had a good point. Considering that Eli has the whole Bible memorized, he might just be carrying around a single volume of the Bible because that's what he uses to remind himself of his mission.

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** You mean the Torah? Yes. For the most part, it's the Old Testament with, I believe, added texts that were written after Christianity branched off. Still good to have the New Testament around.

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**** Just a little bug-a-boo of mine: The "God helps those who help themselves" is one of those misappropriated quotes. That one's actually an old saying and is not in any version of the Bible.
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* Umm..isn't Tanak (which is shown on the same shelf that Eli's book is placed upon)also 77% of what Eli's dictated? And if it survived,why didn't the B****?

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* Umm..isn't Tanak (which is shown on the same shelf that Eli's book is placed upon)also 77% of what Eli's dictated? And if it survived,why didn't the B****?B****?
* is it just me, or was GaryOldman doing his best [[{{Deadwood}} Ian]] [[{{Kings}} McShane]] impression for this movie? Not much of a complaint as I like both actors, but when I look back on any given scene, I keep picturing McShane in Oldman's place.

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** That's the same as asking how 6 million people can suddenly start being shipped into furnaces and ghettoes. Systematic elimination is possible with persistence and time, and religion is a touchy subject. Isn't there at least one Real Life example of a highly populated secular nation that has pretty much eradicated religion from its borders?

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** That's the same as asking how 6 million people can suddenly start being shipped into furnaces and ghettoes. Systematic elimination is possible with persistence and time, and religion is a touchy subject. Isn't there at least one Real Life RealLife example of a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China highly populated secular nation nation]] that has at one time pretty much [[CulturalRevolution eradicated religion from its borders?borders]]?


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**** In 1978, some bans were lifted and the present day equilibrium 32 years later is less than 20% in ''a time of peace''. The [[BannedInChina banning]] of ChickTracts and other materials as acts of sedition in the past, exclusion of the Koran from the Olympic grounds in more modern times, and the continuing policy of outlawing and quashing any would-be religion that isn't "well-established" seems like a pretty long-lasting success that has seen even better(?) days in time gone by.
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** Quite frankly, if you didn't already know how to read, or know a really specialized skill, you probably didn't have a lot of time to learn after the world was destroyed. Especially since books at all were apparently rare.


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**** [[spoiler: Remember, he was using three to four shots per head in that gun fight in the town. It could be that with guns, most people just don't have the markmanship skills, Eli included. He's just really quick on the draw.]]


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**** The movie makes it very clear at the end that the group at Alcatraz are all about spreading information, not faiths. If Eli had had anything else, it would have been just as precious to them. Being a religious text made the majority of the movie's plot, or was the farmhouse fight not worth Carnegie going after a book that could be used to influence others by faith?
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*** No, no there is not. such a thing would be utterly impossible. A few have tried, and failed with varying degrees of magnitude.

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*** No, no there is not. such a thing would be utterly impossible. A few have tried, and failed with varying degrees of magnitude.magnitude.
* Umm..isn't Tanak (which is shown on the same shelf that Eli's book is placed upon)also 77% of what Eli's dictated? And if it survived,why didn't the B****?
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** That's the same as asking how 6 million people can suddenly start being shipped into furnaces and ghettoes. Systematic elimination is possible with persistence and time, and religion is a touchy subject. Isn't there at least one Real Life example of a highly populated secular nation that has pretty much eradicated religion from its borders?

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** That's the same as asking how 6 million people can suddenly start being shipped into furnaces and ghettoes. Systematic elimination is possible with persistence and time, and religion is a touchy subject. Isn't there at least one Real Life example of a highly populated secular nation that has pretty much eradicated religion from its borders?borders?
***No, no there is not. such a thing would be utterly impossible. A few have tried, and failed with varying degrees of magnitude.
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*** Whoever said it was the "best" book to save? There's only a few characters who even know what it is, and of those Eli himself is a believer and certainly wouldn't agree that the Bible is evil, Carnegie WANTS to use it for evil (actually supporting your point, if you weren't blind enough to see it), and the librarian at the end clearly does NOT see it as THE one book, but one out of many.

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*** Whoever said it was the "best" book to save? There's only a few characters who even know what it is, and of those Eli himself is a believer and certainly wouldn't agree that the Bible is evil, Carnegie WANTS to use it for evil (actually supporting your point, if you weren't blind enough to see it), evil, and the librarian at the end clearly does NOT see it as THE one book, but one out of many.
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*** Whoever said it was the "best" book to save? There's only a few characters who even know what it is, and of those Eli himself is a believer and certainly wouldn't agree that the Bible is evil, Carnegie WANTS to use it for evil (actually supporting your point, if you weren't blind enough to see it), and the librarian at the end clearly does NOT see it as THE one book, but one out of many.

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**** Finding out that the oh so important book was the Bible and not something actually useful to a post-apocalyptic society, like a book on medicine or agriculture, killed any desire I had to see this movie.

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**** Because clearly countries have never been conquered through knowledge of chemistry or biology.
***
Finding out that the oh so important book was the Bible and not something actually useful to a post-apocalyptic society, like a book on medicine or agriculture, killed any desire I had to see this movie.movie.
**** Except the harsher UV rays from the hole in the Ozone layer would probably make old knowledge about agriculture less useful and it's not like a book on medicine is gonna help when you're in the middle of the desert with a bullet in your head. Rather, I think they chose the Bible because they wanted to highlight the importance of faith when all hope seems lost.
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*** Talk about HollywoodAtheist.
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*** [[spoiler:It's probably easier to hear gunshots and a guy staggering across the dirt than to pinpoint their smell.]]



* How in the shit is there only ONE copy of the best selling book of all time, ever? I mean, even if the world's largest religious faction suddenly lost faith, I'm certain that SOMEONE is going to have a copy.

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* How in the shit is there only ONE copy of the best selling book of all time, ever? I mean, even if the world's largest religious faction suddenly lost faith, I'm certain that SOMEONE is going to have a copy.copy.
** That's the same as asking how 6 million people can suddenly start being shipped into furnaces and ghettoes. Systematic elimination is possible with persistence and time, and religion is a touchy subject. Isn't there at least one Real Life example of a highly populated secular nation that has pretty much eradicated religion from its borders?
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** Watching it a second time. Maybe Denzel didn't know the twist for some of the scenes, but in other scenes it's subtle. But what is the root of his, what appears to be, degenerative blindness? 'The Flash' or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choroideremia?

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*** Do you know what bugs me?That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith?Plato?And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate,actually that makes it worse, because we ddint see a movie about any of these book whe saw a movie about the Bible.Oh and by the way,I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times.And the Torah and Quran.Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destoyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe.NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!

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*** Do you know what bugs me?That me? That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith?Plato?And, Smith? Plato? And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate,actually compensate, actually that makes it worse, because we ddint didn't see a movie about any of these book whe we saw a movie about the Bible.Bible. Oh and by the way,I way, I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times.times. And the Torah and Quran.Quran. Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destoyed destroyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe.safe. NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!AGAIN!
**** Finding out that the oh so important book was the Bible and not something actually useful to a post-apocalyptic society, like a book on medicine or agriculture, killed any desire I had to see this movie.
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** Depending on your sect, exactly what parts of the Bible are and aren't Canon vary. Saying that the King James version is missing canon portions is like saying that a person's life is non-canon because he was born in Australia instead of Great Britain.


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** For a Christian, which it's heavily implied Eli was, this is actually a pretty good deal: fulfill your purpose on Earth, then die and leave the filthy hellhole behind.


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* [[DidNotDoTheResearch There already is a]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_King_James_Version New King James Version.]]

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* [[DidNotDoTheResearch There already is a]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_King_James_Version org/wiki/New_King_James-_Version New King James Version.]]



*** Uh... Eli isn't perfect, and Carnegie could have used it for bad. '''THERE ISN'T A PARABLE THAT'S SIMILAR TO ELI'S'''.

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*** Uh... Eli isn't perfect, and Carnegie could have used it for bad. '''THERE ISN'T A PARABLE THAT'S SIMILAR TO ELI'S'''.ELI'S'''.
* How in the shit is there only ONE copy of the best selling book of all time, ever? I mean, even if the world's largest religious faction suddenly lost faith, I'm certain that SOMEONE is going to have a copy.
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*** Do you know what bugs me?That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith?Plato?And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate,actually that makes it worse, because we ddint see a movie about any of these book whe saw a movie about the Bible.Oh and by the way,I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times.And the Torah and Quran.Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destoyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe.NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!

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*** Do you know what bugs me?That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith?Plato?And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate,actually that makes it worse, because we ddint see a movie about any of these book whe saw a movie about the Bible.Oh and by the way,I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times.And the Torah and Quran.Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destoyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe.NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!AGAIN!
*** Uh... Eli isn't perfect, and Carnegie could have used it for bad. '''THERE ISN'T A PARABLE THAT'S SIMILAR TO ELI'S'''.
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*** [[spoiler:This troper took it to mean he really is divinely guided. Not in all actions, as he does for himself what he can, but when necessary, IE: blowing away people shooting at him with a pistol some 20 yards away with a single shot after they shoot at him. With the light handed way in which the movie delivers its biblical messages, such as, "God helps those who help themselves". Could count as more fridge brilliance.]]

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*** [[spoiler:This troper took it to mean he really is divinely guided. Not in all actions, as he does for himself what he can, but when necessary, IE: blowing away people shooting at him with a pistol some 20 yards away with a single shot after they shoot at him. With the light handed way in which the movie delivers its biblical messages, such as, "God helps those who help themselves". Could count as more fridge brilliance.]]]]
***Do you know what bugs me?That this movie was Fallout with Fundamentalism mixed in.The world has ended and the BEST book to save is the Bible?Really?No history of science?No the complete history of the World,What about Adam Smith?Plato?And, no the collection in the end does NOT compensate,actually that makes it worse, because we ddint see a movie about any of these book whe saw a movie about the Bible.Oh and by the way,I agree with Carnegie, that book would be a tremendous advantage for conquering because it has already used for that countless times.And the Torah and Quran.Really, I hate book burning, but if 2-3 books have destoyed the whole planet in the wrong hands again and again, I would at least lock them up,somewhere really really safe.NO REPRINT THEM AND START PREACHING AGAIN!
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** Indeed, he was already dying from the moment Carnegie shot him. God kept him going long enough to complete his mission. And he was able to die peacefully, which in the [[strike:FallOut]] BookOfEli Universe, is rare. And he's in Heaven, which is pretty good too.

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** Indeed, he was already dying from the moment Carnegie shot him. God kept him going long enough to complete his mission. And he was able to die peacefully, which in the [[strike:FallOut]] BookOfEli Universe, is rare. And he's in Heaven, which is pretty good too.too.
* How is Eli able to fight so well while blind? The melee battles are somewhat justified (he's had thirty years to practice, after all) but the gunfights are harder to excuse. Still, [[RuleOfCool very few people complain because it's awesome.]] And you don't know about it the first time through.
** He could be [[spoiler:''legally'' blind, not able to perceive depth or even see everything really blurry]]. It explains why he [[spoiler:doesn't see Alcatraz until they're practically in front of it]].
** The way I interpreted it, he is only [[spoiler:completely blind in his right eye, the one with the scar over it. His left eye just has poor vision,]] which makes more sense with the gunfights and such.
*** He also [[spoiler:never fires first, and can smell people thirty feet away.]]
*** [[spoiler:This troper took it to mean he really is divinely guided. Not in all actions, as he does for himself what he can, but when necessary, IE: blowing away people shooting at him with a pistol some 20 yards away with a single shot after they shoot at him. With the light handed way in which the movie delivers its biblical messages, such as, "God helps those who help themselves". Could count as more fridge brilliance.]]

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