History Headscratchers / Supergirl

** Superman and Supergirl take the fact that their species has become extinct pretty well, it seems. Superman cares more that humans died during his absence and thinks he should have left Kandor in Brainiac's ship. Supergirl not only stays on Earth, but thinks about rejecting her Kryptonian roots. And neither of them tries to go after LexLuthor, who took the part in the genocide of their people, even though he is public figure again. Regarding the above argument: Supergirl abandoning Earth WOULD NOT BE THE SAME THING as when Kyle Rayner did it, simply because it's not her native planet, she spent only a few years here, so from her perspective it would be just leaving one alien world for another.

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Alright call me a pervert all you want, but I was wondering, since Kryptonians are invulnerable under a sun yellow and hotter, and Batman hurts his hand if he punches Superman, do female Kryptonians literally have [[Boobs of Steel]]? I mean do Kryptonians have fat? I mean obviously Supergirl and especially Power Girl have breasts, but are they soft?

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** Incest. Power Girl is physically different to Supergirl, this leads me to believe that she is biologically different too. Making her more like a sister to her than a straight parallel universe equivalent.

***** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with {{Smallville}}. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the {{Legion Of Super-Heroes}}, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.

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* Why does Kara Zor-El (current) stay on Earth? You know,home planet of the villains and their [[HumansAreBastards accomplices]] who murdered basically her entire species?
** I think Jor-El's speech from ''SupermanReturns'' sums it up quite nicely.

* Why does Kara Zor-El (current) stay on Earth? You know,home planet of the {{Complete Monster}}s and their [[HumansAreBastards accomplices]] who murdered basically her entire species?

* To this day, it annoys the hell out of me that they canceled Peter David's well-written and though-provoking Supergirl series so that they could call the SoBadItsHorrible Cir-El Supergirl.
** Cir-El's fleeting existence in canon was a small price to pay to rid the world of David's ridiculous "Earth Angel" phase.
** [[DidNotDoTheResearch When DC decided to replace Peter David's Supergirl with Cir-El, the Earth Angel-era of Linda Danvers aka Supergirl was already close to finished.]]
** In what way? Peter David has, if I remember correctly, stated that if the Supergirl series hadn't been cancelled, he had intended for the book to become a triple-act with Linda, Kara, and Power Girl sharing the stage--clearly he had stories beyond what we saw.
** I meant the Earth Angel-story of Linda Danvers was almost finished. The following arc you mentioned would be a post-Earth Angel-arc.
** Meh, David's Linda Danvers was boring as shit. Don't get me wrong, the current Kara Supergirl is just barely better, but at least she's got the whole Kryptonian thing going for her.
** YMMV. PeterDavid's run has been so far the only time any continuity outside the DCAU managed to make me care about Supergirl at all.

***** Kyle Rayner left Earth because John Stewart was going to be in ''JusticeLeague'', so [[ExecutiveMeddling Kyle had to be shooed out of the JLA so that John could be the Green Lantern in the comic book version]]. The gay bashing thing was just a poorly-conceived excuse. Similar to why ''YoungJustice'' was canceled and some of the members shifted to the new ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' right before the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon started. (Well, that and DanDiDio hates fun.)
****** First, YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PeterDavid's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, Didio-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this argument. And finally, it would be an incredible wall banger for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.

** I think Jor-El's speech from SupermanReturns sums it up quite nicely.

**** Hah, which one? The one that was destroyed or the new one that's under threat of Tamaranian invasion? Anyways, back on topic: Kara knows that not everyone is like Lex Luthor or Sam Lane. If writes off all of Earth like that, it's just like Kyle Rayner abandoning Earth because his gay friend was gay-bashed all over again.
***** Kyle Rayner left Earth because John Stewart was going to be in JusticeLeague, so [[ExecutiveMeddling Kyle had to be shooed out of the JLA so that John could be the Green Lantern in the comic book version]]. The gay bashing thing was just a poorly-conceived excuse. Similar to why YoungJustice was canceled and some of the members shifted to the new [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Teen Titans]] right before the TeenTitans cartoon started. (Well, that and DanDiDio hates fun.)
****** First, YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PAD's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, Didio-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this arguement. And finally, it would be an incredible wall banger for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.

**** So what you are saying is that the JLA doesn't help anyone outside of America? That Superman doesn't help with the occasional giant robot attacks in Tokyo? That Wonder Woman doesn't help evacuate nearby cities when there is an erupting volcano in the Pacific? That when Green Lantern saves the planet from alien invasion, it's only for America? ...Are you that old black person that said that Hal Jordan didn't help black people at the start of the O'Neil/Adams run? Do you think that Superman is the biggest dick in the world since he mainly helps EARTH instead of patrolling that big giant thing that we live in... what's it called... THE UNIVERSE? I guess that aliens are helpless... wait. Aren't there Darkstars, R.E.B.E.L.S., GLC, and other alien police groups? There are? Huh, well blow me down. And I guess that the Kryptonian government was all perfect and SOOO much better than any of Earth's... except for the horrible classism, xenophobia against anyone NOT Kryptonian, and the military sleeper cells that were placed all over Earth to invade on Zod's command. Yes, let's let children die in an earthquake in France or let the armed robbers shoot everyone dead in Macon, Georgia JUST because of a rouge military cell (who by the way, wasn't elected, becaue they are the MILITARY. The president was, but he was fed doctored information.). And even if you just can't get rid of the fact that the cell was American, remember this: AMERICA DOES NOT EQUAL THE ENTIRE PLANET. That is a real nice representative of the entire human freaking race. Finally, SPELL CHECK. USE IT.

****** First, YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PAD's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, Didio-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this arguement. And finally, it would be an incredible {{Wallbanger}} for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did.

*** 1985: The Crisis happens and DC gets rid of all other Kryptonians to keep Superman as the Last Son of Krypton. Power Girl is kept with a new origin but they decide to say that she's the original Power Girl from Earth-2, having survived the Crisis, so just ignore anything else to do with her okay.

*** 2005: DC finally say "fuck it" and bring back Kara Zor-El, the cousin of Kal-El.

***** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with {{Smallville}}. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the LegionOfSuperHeroes, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.

--> ''Random Guy'': "Oh, look! That bus full of nuns and children are being held hostage by Metallo! Someone needs to help!"
--> ''Supergirl'': "No. You asses killed my people. Let Corben do whatever he wants. I'M GOING TO OA TO HANG WITH ARISIA!!1"

****** Yes, that was the official in-universe excuse, but the point is that it didn't matter what any of the writers wanted to do with Kyle at the time, [[ExecutiveMeddling the decision to get him out of the Justice League to make room for John Stewart was made by the editors to make the comic closer to the animated universe]]. Whether you personally liked Young Justice or not, it was ended for the same reason. Just like Superman's history in the comic book was changed to match with {{Smallville}}. It would be a wallbanger for Supergirl to leave because of what a few people did (just like it was when that was the poorly conceived excuse used for Kyle), but it wouldn't matter if some higher-up told the writer that they want her to join the LegionOfSuperHeroes, to go to Earth-12, or that they were going to bring [[TheScrappy Cir-El]] back and didn't want to confuse the audience. And at that point you would probably write a jab or two aimed at [=DiDido=] out of the pure frustration of someone other than the creative team making decisions that impact a character that you like. I guess what I am trying to say is that editors should spend more time checking continuity and less time bullying writers, and if corporate executives want to dictate what goes on in comics (or TV, movies, etc) they should try their hand at writing them.

****** First, YoungJustice was terribly overrated (can't say the same for the rest of PAD's works, because I haven't really read any). Second, the JusticeLeague thing notwithstanding, the official in-universe excuse for Kyle leaving Earth was the gay-bashing (amongst other things). Third, Didio-bashing doesn't really have it's place in this arguement. And finally, it would be an incredible {{Wallbanger}} for Kara to write off the entire human race for something that a relatively small group of government assholes did. "Oh, look! That bus full of nuns and children are being held hostage by Metallo! Someone needs to help!" ''Supergirl'': "No. You asses killed my people. Let Corben do whatever he wants. I'M GOING TO OA!!1"