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** For that matter, why arrive the day before First Contact? Blast the site five minutes before First Contact and then the ''Enterprise'' crew doesn't have time to fix anything.

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* That scene where they show that there's no glass in the windows. The ones that look out into '''SPACE!!''' Were the ship's designers ''trying'' to kill the crew? Or had they never heard of the magic words, "power failure"?? And even if the window force fields have triple backup power supplies, it's still an incredibly wasteful use of power, especially considering the sheer number of windows on the ''Enterprise.'' Why not just cover them with a nice thick sheet of transparent {{Phlebotinum}}, then you could use all that nice extra energy to boost your sensors, power another phaser, run five thousand cappuccino makers at one -- the possibilities are endless.
** It wasn't a window, it was a hatch ([[SFDebris for mad officers to piss on sacred landmarks from orbit through if their dogs died]]) that Picard opened. It had a nice chunky door over it. The actual windows are, as you propose, transparent aluminum sections of the hull.

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* That scene where they show that there's no glass in the windows. The ones that look out into '''SPACE!!''' Were the ship's designers ''trying'' to kill the crew? Or had they never heard of the magic words, "power failure"?? And even if the window force fields have triple backup power supplies, it's still an incredibly wasteful use of power, especially considering the sheer number of windows on the ''Enterprise.'' Why not just cover them with a nice thick sheet of transparent {{Phlebotinum}}, then you could use all that nice extra energy to boost your sensors, power another phaser, run five thousand cappuccino makers at one -- the possibilities are endless.
** It wasn't a window, it was a hatch ([[SFDebris for mad officers to piss on sacred landmarks from orbit through if their dogs died]]) that Picard opened. It had a nice chunky door over it. The actual windows are, as you propose, transparent aluminum sections of the hull.


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* That scene where they show that there's no glass in the windows. The ones that look out into '''SPACE!!''' Were the ship's designers ''trying'' to kill the crew? Or had they never heard of the magic words, "power failure"?? And even if the window force fields have triple backup power supplies, it's still an incredibly wasteful use of power, especially considering the sheer number of windows on the ''Enterprise.'' Why not just cover them with a nice thick sheet of transparent {{Phlebotinum}}, then you could use all that nice extra energy to boost your sensors, power another phaser, run five thousand cappuccino makers at one -- the possibilities are endless.
** It wasn't a window, it was a hatch ([[SFDebris for mad officers to piss on sacred landmarks from orbit through if their dogs died]]) that Picard opened. It had a nice chunky door over it. The actual windows are, as you propose, transparent aluminum sections of the hull.


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** They didn't really show any deference to the timeline. They told Zefram and Lily ''everything'' about the future. They sent a team of 100 engineers to earth to fix the rocket. (I think someone would have noticed all the professional engineers with futuristic equipment, in the middle of a dystopian civil war zone, having all of a sudden materialized to fix the rocket.) Two enterprise crewmen accompanied Zefram on the flight. I think that sometime later on, as RedLetterMedia [[http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-first-contact/ notes]], people would be like, "Who was in those other two seats on the rocket? What were their names? Where are they? We want to interview them!" etc. etc. The crew beamed back to the Enterprise at the end in full view of ''everyone''. The argument that they were trying to preserve the timeline is bunk. They just wanted to ensure that first contact would occur. Communicating with the Vulcans would not have prevented that goal.
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*** My guess is it provides direct access to a certain area of the ship for engineers, while the ship is at Spacedock. That, and the peeing.
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**It wasn't a window, it was a hatch ([[SFDebris for mad officers to piss on sacred landmarks from orbit through if their dogs died]]) that Picard opened. It had a nice chunky door over it. The actual windows are, as you propose, transparent aluminum sections of the hull.
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** That would absolutely wreck the timeline, which was already at serious risk. And remember, Picard is far from being objective.

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* PlotHoles: How did they go about recreating the time-vortex after having gotten rid of their only deflector dish?
** They didn't get rid of the deflector. They got rid of the thing the Borg were building ON the deflector. Look at the scene again: The deflector dish itself is still there.
*** They certainly got rid of some critical component that the Borg couldn't recreate, because the Borg didn't bother going back out onto the hull to try again and instead resumed [[CurbStompBattle curbstomping]] the crew inside the ship. The ''dish'', obviously, is still there, but whatever component the Borg were converting to their use is gone. I would think that makes it somewhat harder to have the deflector be functional -- unless, of course, said component was not used in recreating the vortex and/or they had a backup deflector dish somewhere on the ship (on the saucer section if I recall).
** They got rid of the "particle emitter" portion of the deflector dish, a part that doesn't even have an article on the Memory Alpha wiki because it only gets mentioned in this movie. The primary purpose of the deflector dish (as Roddenberry conceived it) is deflecting space dust and such away so that [[KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter they can't blow a ship going at ungodly speed to smithereens]]. At any rate, the dish was never given the blame for creating the vortex; that was accomplished by modifying the warp field (a different bit of {{Phlebotinum}} entirely).
* Why didn't the Borg go back in time, send the message, and ''then'' fly to earth? The Federation would be unmade without ever knowing what hit them ...
** FridgeBrilliance: ... unless it was all a XanatosGambit by the queen to get into Data's pants. Though frankly, this would be XanatosRoulette territory.
*** Or else they weren't even sure it would work, and the sphere was a one-of-a-kind thing. Besides, if the time-travel idea really ''was'' Plan A, why didn't the Borg just outfit the cube from the beginning with the required technology? The cube took a [[MoreDakka a metric crapton of firepower]] to destroy, while the ''Enterprise'' offed the undamaged sphere with 4-5 torpedoes. It probably would have been a hell of a lot less risky.
* FridgeLogic: Presumably they beamed back all the evacuated crew before they left, but what about all the future tech in the form of the escape pods? For history's sake, leaving them behind would be a bad idea, since technology the world shouldn't have yet could eventually be reverse-engineered from them.
** There's nothing stopping the crew from beaming all their technology, escape pods, etc. back aboard before they departed. That being said, unless they were ''really'' careful, they might leave plenty of impoverished humans behind disappointed at getting no technological help.
** They picked a fictional uninhabited island ("Gravett") in the South Pacific as a destination in order to minimize contaminating 21st-century Earth with 24th-century technology; presumably, they would have cleaned up after themselves for the same reason.
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***** By the way, another "emergency forcefield" that went uncommented was demonstrated in ''Generations'' on the ''Enterprise''-B. It allowed Scotty, Chekov, and Captain whassisface to see the gaping hull breach and believe Kirk got spaced without the benefit of a space suit. One wonders if this scene in ''First Contact'' was done to answer people who pointed out that [[BatmanCanBreatheInSpace you can't breathe in space]]... only to raise further questions.
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* Why would they introduce the Borg Queen, have characters try to ask questions meant to explain her existence, only for her to duck the questions? Picard asks how she could have survived after "The Best of Both Worlds", to which the Queen answers "You think in such three-dimensional terms..."? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! This isn't like ''StarTrekII'', where three-dimensional thinking actually is a plot point. Why couldn't they simply have her say something like "Only my body was lost."? I guess there's only one other explanation: BadWriting.

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* Why would they introduce the Borg Queen, have characters try to ask questions meant to explain her existence, only for her to duck the questions? Picard asks how she could have survived after "The Best of Both Worlds", to which the Queen answers "You think in such three-dimensional terms..."? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! This isn't like ''StarTrekII'', where three-dimensional thinking actually is a plot point. Why couldn't they simply have her say something like "Only my body was lost."? I guess there's only one other explanation: BadWriting.BadWriting.
** She probably ducks the questions just to keep Data interested and listening, leading him along for her own ends. The "three-dimensional terms" can only mean that the Queen operates or exists on a level that transcends mere space. She's more a representation of the Collective and its shared drives than [[TheManBehindTheMan some autonomous leader]]; in effect, her consciousness [[EldritchAbomination spans the galaxy]]. The first StarTrekVoyagerRelaunch novels mention how the Borg have some "Royal Protocol" program that creates a new drone every time the Queen is destroyed; that is, she is really an A.I. who has no true physical body, so in effect [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm she does not exist in the three dimensions that our minds can perceive]].
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** It's important to remember the distinction between being in space and being in orbit. "In space" simply means you're up very high and there's no air. In orbit means you're moving fast enough that gravity can't pull you down fast enough to hit the ground. It's quite possible to have one without the other: amateur rockets can get into space, but without sufficient velocity they come right back down; airless planets (or even underground tunnels on Earth kept in a vacuum) could theoretically have a ship in orbit close enough to reach out and touch the ground. ICBM rockets like the one that the ''Phoenix'' was built from have enough delta-v to get to space, but not enough to reach orbital velocity (that's why they're called ''ballistic'' missiles. The math behind their flight path is more-or-less the same as artillery or even throwing a ball). Without those insane multi-kps speeds, reentry isn't as big a deal. In fact it's been done by a guy in just a spacesuit and staged parachutes, no heat shield needed. Likely the ''Phoenix'' was designed so that it would go up, do it's warp thing, and then come back down at a comparatively sedate velocity.

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** It's important to remember the distinction between being in space and being in orbit. "In space" simply means you're up very high and there's no air. In orbit means you're moving fast enough that gravity can't pull you down fast enough to hit the ground. It's quite possible to have one without the other: amateur rockets can get into space, but without sufficient velocity they come right back down; airless planets (or even underground tunnels on Earth kept in a vacuum) could theoretically have a ship in orbit close enough to reach out and touch the ground. ICBM rockets like the one that the ''Phoenix'' was built from have enough delta-v to get to space, but not enough to reach orbital velocity (that's why they're called ''ballistic'' missiles. The math behind their flight path is more-or-less the same as artillery or even throwing a ball). Without those insane multi-kps speeds, reentry isn't as big a deal. In fact it's been done by a guy in just a spacesuit and staged parachutes, no heat shield needed. Likely the ''Phoenix'' was designed so that it would go up, do it's warp thing, and then come back down at a comparatively sedate velocity.velocity.
* Why would they introduce the Borg Queen, have characters try to ask questions meant to explain her existence, only for her to duck the questions? Picard asks how she could have survived after "The Best of Both Worlds", to which the Queen answers "You think in such three-dimensional terms..."? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! This isn't like ''StarTrekII'', where three-dimensional thinking actually is a plot point. Why couldn't they simply have her say something like "Only my body was lost."? I guess there's only one other explanation: BadWriting.
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** It's important to remember the distinction between being in space and being in orbit. "In space" simply means you're up very high and there's no air. In orbit means you're moving fast enough that gravity can't pull you down fast enough to hit the ground. It's quite possible to have one without the other: amateur rockets can get into space, but without sufficient velocity they come right back down; airless planets (or even underground tunnels on Earth kept in a vacuum) could theoretically have a ship in orbit close enough to reach out and touch the ground. ICBM rockets like the one that the ''Phoenix'' was built from have enough delta-v to get to space, but not enough to reach orbital velocity. Without those insane multi-kps speed, reentry isn't so big a deal. In fact it's been done by a guy in just a spacesuit and staged parachutes, no heat shield needed. Likely the ''Phoenix'' was designed so that it would go up, do it's warp thing, and then come back down, never having achieved escape or orbital velocity (warp speed doesn't translate to real velocity).

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** It's important to remember the distinction between being in space and being in orbit. "In space" simply means you're up very high and there's no air. In orbit means you're moving fast enough that gravity can't pull you down fast enough to hit the ground. It's quite possible to have one without the other: amateur rockets can get into space, but without sufficient velocity they come right back down; airless planets (or even underground tunnels on Earth kept in a vacuum) could theoretically have a ship in orbit close enough to reach out and touch the ground. ICBM rockets like the one that the ''Phoenix'' was built from have enough delta-v to get to space, but not enough to reach orbital velocity. velocity (that's why they're called ''ballistic'' missiles. The math behind their flight path is more-or-less the same as artillery or even throwing a ball). Without those insane multi-kps speed, speeds, reentry isn't so as big a deal. In fact it's been done by a guy in just a spacesuit and staged parachutes, no heat shield needed. Likely the ''Phoenix'' was designed so that it would go up, do it's warp thing, and then come back down, never having achieved escape or orbital velocity (warp speed doesn't translate to real velocity).down at a comparatively sedate velocity.
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** Act like an Apollo capsule -- have the cockpit module detach, with a heat shield behind it, then reenter and let parachutes provide the drag to stop. Alternately, if the engines are powerful enough (and the ship is structurally sound enough) it might be able to land under powered flight. Or maybe Picard and Data gave them a lift and beamed the whole ship back to the surface from the ''Enterprise'' -- really, can they do any more damage to the timeline after suddenly crowding the encampment with a small army of engineers and bragging far and wide about Cochrane's future exploits?

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** Act like an Apollo capsule -- have the cockpit module detach, with a heat shield behind it, then reenter and let parachutes provide the drag to stop. Alternately, if the engines are powerful enough (and the ship is structurally sound enough) it might be able to land under powered flight. Or maybe Picard and Data gave them a lift and beamed the whole ship back to the surface from the ''Enterprise'' -- really, can they do any more damage to the timeline after suddenly crowding the encampment with a small army of engineers and bragging far and wide about Cochrane's future exploits?exploits?
** It's important to remember the distinction between being in space and being in orbit. "In space" simply means you're up very high and there's no air. In orbit means you're moving fast enough that gravity can't pull you down fast enough to hit the ground. It's quite possible to have one without the other: amateur rockets can get into space, but without sufficient velocity they come right back down; airless planets (or even underground tunnels on Earth kept in a vacuum) could theoretically have a ship in orbit close enough to reach out and touch the ground. ICBM rockets like the one that the ''Phoenix'' was built from have enough delta-v to get to space, but not enough to reach orbital velocity. Without those insane multi-kps speed, reentry isn't so big a deal. In fact it's been done by a guy in just a spacesuit and staged parachutes, no heat shield needed. Likely the ''Phoenix'' was designed so that it would go up, do it's warp thing, and then come back down, never having achieved escape or orbital velocity (warp speed doesn't translate to real velocity).
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***** Borg can't adapt to kinetic forces. At all. It's their primary weakness. As for why the TR-116 isn't used: By the time it was out of prototype, the regenerative phaser had already been introduced, which gave the advantages of a kinetic weapon while still being small, and without the need to store hundreds of easily-explodable projectiles, as well as being limited in what situations they'd be useful. Also, Starfleet is still trying to not be a complete military power, so something that is ONLY a weapon wouldn't taste right, while phasers can also be used as tools. Also keep in mind that the TR-116's used in ''Field of Fire'' were MODIFIED to have transporters in them.
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** Alternatively, maybe the technology to create the vortex was very hard to get right, the Borg could only successfully install it on one sphere and they weren't even sure it would work yet. The whole battle at the beginning was a XanatosGambit (ironically, [[Gargoyles Jonathan Frakes]] directed First Contact) -- send a cube, assimilate Earth if you can, and if you can't, here's a sphere that can get past what remains of Earth's defenses and go back in time instead. The sphere was probably Plan B, to be used if the single-cube strategy failed.

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** Alternatively, maybe the technology to create the vortex was very hard to get right, the Borg could only successfully install it on one sphere and they weren't even sure it would work yet. The whole battle at the beginning was a XanatosGambit (ironically, [[Gargoyles [[{{Gargoyles}} Jonathan Frakes]] directed First Contact) -- send a cube, assimilate Earth if you can, and if you can't, here's a sphere that can get past what remains of Earth's defenses and go back in time instead. The sphere was probably Plan B, to be used if the single-cube strategy failed.

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* How did the Phoenix get back down to Earth after they finished the warp test? The thing didn't even look like it could survive reentry, let alone land after taking off.
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* How did the Phoenix ''Phoenix'' get back down to Earth after they finished the warp test? The thing didn't even look like it could survive reentry, let alone land after taking off.
** Parachutes?Parachutes?
** Act like an Apollo capsule -- have the cockpit module detach, with a heat shield behind it, then reenter and let parachutes provide the drag to stop. Alternately, if the engines are powerful enough (and the ship is structurally sound enough) it might be able to land under powered flight. Or maybe Picard and Data gave them a lift and beamed the whole ship back to the surface from the ''Enterprise'' -- really, can they do any more damage to the timeline after suddenly crowding the encampment with a small army of engineers and bragging far and wide about Cochrane's future exploits?
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*** [[SfDebris No its true purpose is to allow pissed off cadets to pee on annoying planets.]]
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**** I can only assume you are confused about the meaning of the word "energy" because kinetic energy and "laser energy" are emphatically NOT the same thing. Just because Borg shields can block certain forms of electromagnetic radiation (or whatever particles a phaser beam is composed of) doesn't mean they can block the force of a punch.
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*** Kinetic energy is still energy. If WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief means the laws of physics allow such things as energy-blocking shields, said shields should block kinetic energy (and therefore bullets) too. Shields in the brig or corridors are shown to stop physical movement so it stands to reason so would combat ones... the plot hole isn't that they don't use physical attacks, it's that they ever worked in the first place.
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* Prime Directive be damned. Just get the fucking Vulcans on-board with the Borg extermination already. Explain the situation -- i.e., "Our species was supposed to have its very first Warp flight today, which would set into motion a series of events including First Contact with Earth and leading into a Federation of Planets, of which Vulcan is a part, yadda yadda, but we are facing the greatest enemy any Federation planet has ever known, and we need your help." If the Borg assimilate Earth, then the whole Alpha Quadrant is vulnerable, including Vulcan, so there is a logical argument that the Vulcans should throw some of their military might behind Earth, whether or not discretely.
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** It's one of the Borg's primary flaws: They may be an immense and collective intelligence, but they're driven by a single urge that they blindly follow: consume. They're much like the [[Starcraft Zerg]] except much more formalized and electronic. The Zerg are a massive Hive Mind, but even the highly intelligent Overmind was driven by a single urge to consume anything in their path. The Borg haven't done so because, quite simply, they didn't think of it until the last moment, when the collective that was so eagerly pursuing its objective through conventional means had to think VERY radically, much like [[Terminator Skynet]].

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** It's one of the Borg's primary flaws: They may be an immense and collective intelligence, but they're driven by a single urge that they blindly follow: consume. They're much like the [[Starcraft [[{{Starcraft}} Zerg]] except much more formalized and electronic. The Zerg are a massive Hive Mind, but even the highly intelligent Overmind was driven by a single urge to consume anything in their path. The Borg haven't done so because, quite simply, they didn't think of it until the last moment, when the collective that was so eagerly pursuing its objective through conventional means had to think VERY radically, much like [[Terminator [[{{Terminator}} Skynet]].
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* How did the Phoenix get back down to Earth after they finished the warp test? The thing didn't even look like it could survive reentry, let alone land after taking off.

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** It's one of the Borg's primary flaws: They may be an immense and collective intelligence, but they're driven by a single urge that they blindly follow: consume. They're much like the [[Starcraft Zerg]] except much more formalized and electronic. The Zerg are a massive Hive Mind, but even the highly intelligent Overmind was driven by a single urge to consume anything in their path. The Borg haven't done so because, quite simply, they didn't think of it until the last moment, when the collective that was so eagerly pursuing its objective through conventional means had to think VERY radically, much like [[Terminator Skynet]].
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**** This was actually the most truly confounding thing to me. Physical combat is said (or at least heavily implied) to be the only thing that ''always'' works against the Borg, and yet nobody seems to think bringing back projectile-based weaponry is a good idea - or hell, even think of it at all. This gets even more silly when Deep Space 9 has an episode involving a gun with TELEPORTING BULLETS that would most assuredly put any Borg drone in his place.

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** Moreover, since the Borg were apparently willing to alter their own history (not just the alpha quadrant’s) by making contact with their earlier selves in the delta quadrant, why don’t they do that all the time?

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** Moreover, since the Borg were apparently willing to alter their own history (not just the alpha quadrant’s) by making contact with their earlier selves in the delta quadrant, why don’t they do that all the time?time?

* How did the Phoenix get back down to Earth after they finished the warp test? The thing didn't even look like it could survive reentry, let alone land after taking off.
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** Kudos to the Youtube reviewer who worked out its real function- To Airlock people. Think about it. Tiny Room, Control Panel only deals with the door, the door has a forcefield allowing entry in and out...
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*** Though now that I think about it, that would explain a bit of dialogue from Cochrane that always struck me as odd before. He bitterly tells Riker that he didn't design the warp drive to better humanity or bring about a utopia, he did it for money, he wanted to get rich, buy an island and retire. That part always seemed weird because, well, it's AfterTheEnd, so what good is money going to do, and what's the difference between a post-nuclear island and anywhere else (and who's actually selling them)? But that makes perfect sense if he did most of the work at a university or research lab before the war - that was when he was dreaming of getting rich, famous and his own tropical island. Which is why he became a disillusioned drunk after the nuclear war wiped out civilization right on the eve of his inventing the warp drive and retiring into a life of luxury.
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** It's just a WMG, but I got the feeling that Cochrane likely ''was'' a brilliant scientist before World War 3, and he'd developed the theory and plans at a university or research center. Then the bombs dropped, the world went to hell, and he turned into an alcoholic wreck as a result. But then he started thinking about that old warp field theory he came up with, and he decided (probably with Lily dragging him kicking and screaming) to cobble together an engine and see if it'd really work. If that's the case, then the answer's more like "all of the above", with the shanty town being the basement for the mad scientist, who used to be a well-funded researcher.

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** It's just a WMG, but I got the feeling that Cochrane likely ''was'' a brilliant scientist before World War 3, and that he'd developed the warp theory and plans the idea for an engine at a university or research center. Then the bombs dropped, the world went to hell, and he turned into an alcoholic wreck as a result. But then he started thinking about that old warp field theory he came up with, and he decided (probably with Lily dragging him kicking and screaming) screaming each step of the way) to cobble together an a warp engine and see if it'd really work. If that's the case, then the answer's more like "all of the above", with the shanty town being filling in as the basement for the mad scientist, who used to be a well-funded researcher.
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** It's just a WMG, but I got the feeling that Cochrane likely ''was'' a brilliant scientist before World War 3, and he'd developed the theory and plans at a university or research center. Then the bombs dropped, the world went to hell, and he turned into an alcoholic wreck as a result. But then he started thinking about that old warp field theory he came up, with and (probably with Lily dragging him kicking and screaming each step of the way) he decided to cobble together an engine and see if it'd really work. If that's the case, then the answer's more like "all of the above", with the shanty town being the basement for the mad scientist, who used to be a well-funded researcher.

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** It's just a WMG, but I got the feeling that Cochrane likely ''was'' a brilliant scientist before World War 3, and he'd developed the theory and plans at a university or research center. Then the bombs dropped, the world went to hell, and he turned into an alcoholic wreck as a result. But then he started thinking about that old warp field theory he came up, with up with, and he decided (probably with Lily dragging him kicking and screaming each step of the way) he decided screaming) to cobble together an engine and see if it'd really work. If that's the case, then the answer's more like "all of the above", with the shanty town being the basement for the mad scientist, who used to be a well-funded researcher.
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** It's just a WMG, but I got the feeling that Cochrane likely ''was'' a brilliant scientist before World War 3, and he'd developed the theory and plans at a university or research center. Then the bombs dropped, the world went to hell, and he turned into an alcoholic wreck as a result. But then he started thinking about that old warp field theory he came up, with and (probably with Lily dragging him kicking and screaming each step of the way) he decided to cobble together an engine and see if it'd really work. If that's the case, then the answer's more like "all of the above", with the shanty town being the basement for the mad scientist, who used to be a well-funded researcher.
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***Note that the idea that the Borg were harvesting the skin comes from the troper two posts above.

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