History Headscratchers / StarTrekFirstContact

20th Feb '17 4:48:42 PM ERAoD
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** I'm willing to presume Starfleet makes their escape pods Prime Directive-compliant with self-destruct functions, in the event of abandoning ship near a pre-warp planet.
8th Feb '17 10:56:09 PM Statzkeen
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** Who says the Vulcans have no Universal Translator?
8th Feb '17 10:26:16 PM Statzkeen
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** Humanity isn't priority #1, or even priority #10. Fighting in the Delta Quadrant takes priority, and earth is a long long way away.
7th Feb '17 1:11:07 PM Dragon101
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** Picard's comment about considering fellow crew members dead was mean to show his RevengeBeforeReason callousness and growing SanitySlippage; basically, CharacterDevelopment and IGotBetter. Going back for Data demonstrates he is less cynical now on reflection, and besides that, Data is [[WhatMeasureIsAMook not a random Ensign he barely knew]], he is his protege and friend of several years.

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** Picard's comment about considering fellow crew members dead was mean to show his RevengeBeforeReason callousness and growing SanitySlippage; basically, CharacterDevelopment and IGotBetter. MyGodWhatHaveIDone? Going back for Data demonstrates he is less cynical now on reflection, and besides that, Data is [[WhatMeasureIsAMook not a random Ensign he barely knew]], he is his protege and friend of several years.
7th Feb '17 1:09:28 PM Dragon101
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** Picard's comment about considering fellow crew members dead was mean to show his RevengeBeforeReason callousness and growing SanitySlippage; basically, CharacterDevelopment and HeGotBetter. Going back for Data demonstrates he is less cynical now on reflection, and besides that, Data is [[WhatMeasureIsAMook not a random Ensign he barely knew]], he is his protege and friend of several years.

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** Picard's comment about considering fellow crew members dead was mean to show his RevengeBeforeReason callousness and growing SanitySlippage; basically, CharacterDevelopment and HeGotBetter.IGotBetter. Going back for Data demonstrates he is less cynical now on reflection, and besides that, Data is [[WhatMeasureIsAMook not a random Ensign he barely knew]], he is his protege and friend of several years.
7th Feb '17 1:08:31 PM Dragon101
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** Picard's comment about considering fellow crew members dead was mean to show his RevengeBeforeReason callousness and growing SanitySlippage; basically, CharacterDevelopment and HeGotBetter. Going back for Data demonstrates he is less cynical now on reflection, and besides that, Data is [[WhatMeasureIsAMook not a random Ensign he barely knew]], he is his protege and friend of several years.


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*** [[OurElvesAreBetter They're Vulcans]]. Their captain might just have assumed that he ''was'' qualified for the task; for all we know, he was- after all, in ''Star Trek'', every single Federation captain is ''also'' a professional diplomat (amongst other things), so why not the same for the Vulcans?
7th Jan '17 11:45:27 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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** Remember, though, that thanks to a {{retcon}} in ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'', Vulcans consider first contact with humanity to have already happened in 1957 in [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E02CarbonCreek Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania]]. I think you could argue that this made Earth a bit of a special case for the Vulcans--especially since one of stranded Vulcans in that episode elected to stay behind. It actually brings up some interesting secondary headscratchers, because it implies that the Vulcans on their own, or in cooperation with the Earth government, apparently kept this incident out of the history books well into the 22[[superscript:nd]] Century, ''at least''.

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** Remember, though, that thanks to a {{retcon}} in ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'', Vulcans consider first contact with humanity to have already happened in 1957 in [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E02CarbonCreek Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania]]. I think you could argue that this made Earth a bit of a special case for the Vulcans--especially since one of stranded Vulcans in that episode elected to stay behind. It actually brings up some interesting secondary headscratchers, because it implies that the Vulcans Vulcans, on their own, own or in cooperation with the Earth government, apparently kept this incident out of the history books well into the 22[[superscript:nd]] Century, ''at least''.
7th Jan '17 11:44:51 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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** Remember, though, that thanks to a {{retcon}} in ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'', Vulcans consider first contact with humanity to have already happened in 1957 in [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E02CarbonCreek Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania]]. I think you could argue that this made Earth a bit of a special case for the Vulcans--especially since one of stranded Vulcans in that episode elected to stay behind. It actually brings up some interesting alternate headscratchers, because it implies that the Vulcans on their own, or in cooperation with the Earth government, apparently kept this incident out of the history books well into the 22[[superscript:nd]] Century, ''at least''.

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** Remember, though, that thanks to a {{retcon}} in ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'', Vulcans consider first contact with humanity to have already happened in 1957 in [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E02CarbonCreek Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania]]. I think you could argue that this made Earth a bit of a special case for the Vulcans--especially since one of stranded Vulcans in that episode elected to stay behind. It actually brings up some interesting alternate secondary headscratchers, because it implies that the Vulcans on their own, or in cooperation with the Earth government, apparently kept this incident out of the history books well into the 22[[superscript:nd]] Century, ''at least''.
6th Jan '17 11:26:51 PM thespecialneedsgroup
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** Remember, though, that thanks to a {{retcon}} in ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'', Vulcans consider first contact with humanity to have already happened in 1957 in [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS02E02CarbonCreek Carbon Creek, Pennsylvania]]. I think you could argue that this made Earth a bit of a special case for the Vulcans--especially since one of stranded Vulcans in that episode elected to stay behind. It actually brings up some interesting alternate headscratchers, because it implies that the Vulcans on their own, or in cooperation with the Earth government, apparently kept this incident out of the history books well into the 22[[superscript:nd]] Century, ''at least''.
6th Jan '17 3:33:54 PM Ohio9
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*** That just seems really inefficient, especially for Vulcans. Wouldn't they want a professional diplomat to make first contact, and not some random ship captain who they don't know is actually qualified for the task?
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