History Headscratchers / SaintsRow

* Can someone help me with the voices for The Boss in Saints Row 3?
--> Default Voice.
--> African-American Voice.
--> (fake) Cockney Voice.
--> Default Female Voice.
--> Latin Female Voice.
--> (fake) Female Russian Voice.
Did I get that right?
** Try it now.

--> African-American Female Voice.

--> (fake) Russian Voice.

* How is the multiplayer for ''Saint's Row 2'' is so unremittingly, excruciatingly ''awful'', yet its single player is one of the best sandbox-style games out there? Why is there no matchmaking system to speak of (I've been repeatedly matched with the same people that wiped the floor with me 1-2 games down the line)? Is there any logic to weapon placement whatsoever? Didn't anyone realize that the game engine is ''horribly'' unsuited to multiplayer?
** It was added in at the last minute. Most games have multiplayer these days so the lack of it would have hurt sales more than weak multiplayer ever could. At least it had Co-Op through the entire single player mode.
*** Yeah. A Co-Op mode that you needed two Xboxes to play... ''and'' had a bunch of achievements linked to it. >:(

* Gat dying like a punk and Shaundi being obsessed with avenging him seems a little bit like character derailment for the two. Gat could survive anything. Right before his death, her had an, unrelated, stab to the chest before killing and almost killing two people with his bare hands and then taking on half of that French Waffel's body guards, only to be killed, offscreen, by a couple of gunshots. He's survived A LOT worse in the previous games, so why kill him off in such a cheap way, so early. I have no problem with them killing him off, but the way they did it is what makes me scratch my head. Then there's the effect it has on Shaundi's personality. I could understand changing the voice actor because she's busy (Like I could understand killing Gat because DDK was busy filming Hawaii Five-0), I could understand changing the way she looks due to them now being Media icons, but changing her personality into a super serious ActionGirl instead of a laidback college drop-out was just painful. It felt like she was a different person. CharacterDerailment was completely in full effect in how easily Gat was killed and how different she was. Note, I do ultimately like SR3, but those things were just painfully wrong for the series. Hopefully, for SR4, Gat will've just been hiding while Shaundi returns to her more [[FunPersonified fun]] personality.
** This bothered me a little as well. On the one hand at least Gat was fun, he showed that he could enjoy life and had human qualities...his relationship with Aisha for example. I can accept Shaundi having matured, but let's face it she becomes an asshole in the third game, she doesn't show a softer side at all or even smile or laugh. On the other hand shit had gotten real, the Saints are kidnapped where their biggest hitter is killed, they're in a unfamiliar city away from home, the Syndicate is much bigger than anything the Saints have faced, the things they're into made Ultor look decent, and the army wants to make them look like terrorists and are perfectly happy to destroy the city if that's what it takes. Still it would have been nice to have a couple of scenes where Shaundi shows her softer side...something similar to with Pierce where she drops the ''Gat's dead I want revenge'' act, or at least dials back on the attitude, particularly after she blames Boss for the helicopter accident or was kidnapped by STAG.

** ** This bothered me a little as well. On the one hand at least Gat was fun, he showed that he could enjoy life and had human qualities...his relationship with Aisha for example. I can accept Shaundi having matured, but let's face it she becomes an asshole in the third game, she doesn't show a softer side at all or even smile or laugh. On the other hand shit had gotten real, the Saints are kidnapped where their biggest hitter is killed, they're in a unfamiliar city away from home, the Syndicate is much bigger than anything the Saints have faced, the things they're into made Ultor look decent, and the army wants to make them look like terrorists and are perfectly happy to destroy the city if that's what it takes. Still it would have been nice to have a couple of scenes where Shaundi shows her softer side...something similar to with Pierce where she drops the ''Gat's dead I want revenge'' act, or at least dials back on the attitude, particularly after she blames Boss for the helicopter accident or was kidnapped by STAG.

** Wrong on both counts. Gat is a badass, but still mortal and Shaundi simply matured. It's been years since the last game, she obviously outgrew her "Stoner college drop out" phase.

**** Except for the fact that the game makes pretty clear that a LOT of the reasons they get away with as much as they do on Mars is because Mars is the very first colony the human race has and humanity's seat of power remains on Earth, which means that they can effectively do whatever the hell they want on Mars until the revolt blows the blinds off... which conveniently results in the EDF popping in and singlehandedly blowing what's left of their operation into pieces. They would probably be far more restrained in running a major American city (even one as corrupt as Stillwater) due to the government looking over their shoulder. And even if we agree that Ultor < The Boss's Saints, that does not mean that The Boss > Julius.

** This bothered me a little as well. On the one hand at least Gat was fun, he showed that he could enjoy life and had human qualities...his relationship with Aisha for example. Shaundi, let's face it she becomes an asshole in the third game, she doesn't show a softer side at all or even smile or laugh. On the other hand shit had gotten real, the Saints are kidnapped where their biggest hitter is killed, they're in a unfamiliar city away from home, the Syndicate is much bigger than anything the Saints have faced, the things they're into made Ultor look decent, and the army wants to make them look like terrorists and are perfectly happy to destroy the city if that's what it takes. Still it would have been nice to have a couple of scenes where Shaundi shows her softer side...something similar to with Pierce where she drops the ''Gat's dead I want revenge'' act, or at least dials back on the attitude, particularly after she blames Boss for the helicopter accident or was kidnapped by STAG.