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** Actually, Miss Finster seems to call all the children by their last names. Prickly too. So it looks like Miss Grotke is the odd teacher out, addressing the children by their first names. And she and Spinelli do get established to have a special bond in "Mama's Girl", so it's plausible that Spinelli said she prefers to go by her last name. As for the other kids, maybe they forgot it since the Ashleys clique wasn't established in kindergarten (in "Outcast Ashley", the girls look like first or second graders). The gang probably got so used to calling Spinelli by her last name, they didn't think about her first name too much.
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** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had [=MySpace=]/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the...uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.

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** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had [=MySpace=]/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the...uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] it) are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.
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* How is Mikey the only kindergartener to never finish the derby? We see in this very episode that Tubby and Gilbert are the only ones who finish. Everyone else geta held up along the way and isn't seen finishing the derby, and it's logical to assume the same happens every year.

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* How is Mikey the only kindergartener to never finish the derby? We see in this very episode that Tubby and Gilbert are the only ones who finish. Everyone else geta gets held up along the way and isn't seen finishing the derby, and it's logical to assume the same happens every year.
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* It's also worth noting that though Mrs. Finster and Principal Prickly are short-tempered and grouchy, they aren't cruel. In "The Biggest Trouble Ever," Mrs. Finster makes the kids do chores for breaking the new statue--understandable-- and when she hears that they'll be transferred to separate schools, both she and Prickly think it's too extreme. Similarly, if child is actually in ''danger'', they fly into action and protect them. In "The Library Kid," when the title character is stuck on a flagpole and can't get down, Mrs. Finster is genuinely concerned for her, calls the Fire Department, and even screams in fear when she sees the girl trapped. So even though they can be nasty, they do care about the kids.

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* It's also worth noting that though Mrs. Finster and Principal Prickly are short-tempered and grouchy, they aren't cruel. In "The Biggest Trouble Ever," Mrs. Finster makes the kids do chores for breaking the new statue--understandable-- and when she hears that they'll be transferred to separate schools, both she and Prickly think it's too extreme. Similarly, if a child is actually in ''danger'', they fly into action and protect them. In "The Library Kid," when the title character is stuck on a flagpole and can't get down, Mrs. Finster is genuinely concerned for her, calls the Fire Department, and even screams in fear when she sees the girl trapped. So even though they can be nasty, they do care about the kids.
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[[WMG: At the end of "The Hypnotist" Principal Prickly is talking to the gang about how they took advantage of him while he was hypnotised and says "Miss Finster has filled me in on your shenanigans and I've decided that the most fitting punishment for you miscrients is" before cutting himself off when he sees the beard he drew on his photo then lets them off with a warning. So what could this "most fitting punishment" he had initially planned have been?]]
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** He's probably been taking vocal lessons for a long time (as seen in "Yes, Mikey, There Is A Santa Claus").
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** I think the sticking point was that Mikey ran out of the race when he fell, whereas with the others, Tubby and Gilbert just ended the race by crossing the finish line. So for them, they simply didn't win. Mikey however ran out of his derby, and got the reputation as the kid who never finished.
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* Also, keep in mind that we're primarily seeing them from the kids' perspective, and for them anyone in a position of rules enforcement is automatically "the enemy".

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* Also, keep in mind that we're primarily seeing them from the kids' perspective, and for them anyone in a position of rules enforcement authority at the school is automatically "the enemy".
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* How is Mikey the only kindergartener to never finish the derby? We see in this very episode that Tubby and Gilbert are the only ones who finish. Everyone else geta held up along the way and isn't seen finishing the derby, and it's logical to assume the same happens every year.
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** You're right--Chad does mention that he has extracurricular activities, including Chess Club, Computer Club, and tutoring (that's how he manages to scare off a bully at the end of the episode--by saying he'll stop helping him with his math work). Plus, within the episode, Gretchen remarks that the kids thought Chad was cool because he played with them when they were in kindergarten...and only ''now'' realizes that Chad would have been in fifth or sixth grade at that time, meaning he was already a geek for playing with little kids while his peers had age-appropriate friends.
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[[WMG: In Taking the Fifth Grade, why would the faculty wait to take all the play equipment and pave the lawn on the first day of school, much less when the kids are supposed to be out for recess? ]]

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recess?]]
* Maybe that was the only time the construction workers were available?
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* Also, keep in mind that we're primarily seeing them from the kids' perspective, and for them anyone in a position of rules enforcement is automatically "the enemy".

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** Aliens ''do'' exist in the ''Recess'' universe; at the end of the episode where TJ and Spinelli kiss, a spaceship drops off a kid Butch claims was abducted.



** Aliens ''do'' exist in the ''Recess'' universe; at the end of the episode where TJ and Spinelli kiss, a spaceship drops off a kid Butch claims was abducted.

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** Aliens ''do'' exist in the ''Recess'' universe; at the end of the episode where TJ and Spinelli kiss, a spaceship drops off a kid Butch claims was abducted.

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** It isnt that far out, remember the movie revolves around a guy with a giant gravity gun he's using to move the friggin MOON, that sounds like a plot straight out of Kim Possible
* In Taking the Fifth Grade, why would the faculty wait to take all the play equipment and pave the lawn on the first day of school, much less when the kids are supposed to be out for recess?

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** It isnt isn't that far out, remember the movie revolves around a guy with a giant gravity gun he's using to move the friggin MOON, that sounds like a plot straight out of Kim Possible
* ** Aliens ''do'' exist in the ''Recess'' universe; at the end of the episode where TJ and Spinelli kiss, a spaceship drops off a kid Butch claims was abducted.

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In Taking the Fifth Grade, why would the faculty wait to take all the play equipment and pave the lawn on the first day of school, much less when the kids are supposed to be out for recess?
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*** Doesn't Spinelli have several older brothers? If so, then maybe the school staff thought of her as yet another Spinelli sibling rather than paying attention to her first name (especially if her older brothers had a reputation).
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** Maybe at one point she said to the teachers that she prefers to be called by her last name. Or maybe she was such a terror in kindergarten that she refused to answer to Ashley, and calling her by her last name became a habit that the rest of the staff got accustomed to. At my school there were kids who had nicknames that stuck, and even got called that by the teachers because they were so associated with them.




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** Maybe they haven't. I have a friend whose family I've met with on a few occasions and I still haven't seen his little brother. The gang rarely seem to go to one person's house, preferring to meet up at school or in town, so they might not have seen him at all. I can't remember if they said that Chad had extracurricular activities in the episode, but maybe he was doing other classes or things like chess club that meant they didn't have opportunities to see him.
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* The gang seems to be a pretty tight-knit group, yet they make it sound like it's been years since they've seen Chad; in all that time, they never went to Vince's house or ran into the whole Lasalle family?

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* The gang seems to be a pretty tight-knit group, yet they make it sound like it's been years since they've seen Chad; in all that time, they never went to Vince's house or ran into the whole Lasalle family?
[=LaSalle=] family somewhere in town?

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RuleOfFunny and RuleOfCool aside, why and how does a 11 year old have the deep post-puberty baritone of Robert Goulet?
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* RuleOfFunny and RuleOfCool aside, why and how does a 11 year old have the deep post-puberty baritone of Robert Goulet?
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How is it that none of the other kids, including her own friends, knew that Spinelli's first name was Ashley until Randall revealed it in "First Name Ashley"? Even back when Spinelli first started kindergarten, there wouldn't have been any reason for her to be on a last name basis, at least until the Ashleys ruined it for her.

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* How is it that none of the other kids, including her own friends, knew that Spinelli's first name was Ashley until Randall revealed it in "First Name Ashley"? Even back when Spinelli first started kindergarten, there wouldn't have been any reason for her to be on a last name basis, at least until the Ashleys ruined it for her.her.

[[WMG: Why is Chad's geeky nature such a surprise to everyone?]]
* The gang seems to be a pretty tight-knit group, yet they make it sound like it's been years since they've seen Chad; in all that time, they never went to Vince's house or ran into the whole Lasalle family?

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How is it that none of the other kids, including her own friends, knew that Spinelli's first name was Ashley until Randall revealed it in "First Name Ashley"? Even back when Spinelli first started kindergarten, there wouldn't have been any reason for her to be on a last name basis, at least until the Ashleys ruined it for her.
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[[WMG: Mikey's singing voice]]
RuleOfFunny and RuleOfCool aside, why and how does a 11 year old have the deep post-puberty baritone of Robert Goulet?

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\n** Have you seen the media? They love scapegoating children and young people for everything.
** And with the frenzy that surrounded the children destroying the statue and how hated they became, you think the builders will ''admit'' that it was their fault?




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** Gretchen also didn't see what Swinger Girl did, and only has Spinelli's word to go on. So Gretchen is demonstrating perfectly scientific logic in questioning a second-hand statement and considering more reasonable explanations for an incident she didn't see.


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** There is a theory discussed above that the kids and teachers have a friendly enemies situation, where the teachers happily play the antagonists and the kids don't mean real harm - it's all just a game to them. Slicer however is not playing, and that genuinely intimidates TJ.
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** Alternatively, her usual "dress" might really be an oversized t-shirt. She does wear leggings under it.

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** * Alternatively, her usual "dress" might really be an oversized t-shirt. She does wear leggings under it.
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** Alternatively, her usual "dress" might really be an oversized t-shirt. She does wear leggings under it.
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* Although she's exceptionally smart for a fourth grader, she's not Series/YoungSheldon smart. Remember, she's top student in her elementary school, while Sheldon is top of the class in his high school and even the college courses he's auditing. She's still a normal kid for the most part, she even enjoys recess just as much as the other kids.




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* There's also the fact that a colder summer doesn't translate to no summer vacation. They even have summer vacation in Barrow, Alaska, which has summer temperatures akin to a Nashville, Tennessee type of winter.
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* Anyone who knows what it's like to be the most intelligent kid in school loves the fact that Gretchen is human enough not to know everything. Highly intelligent people get just as tired of the stereotypes as anyone else, and one of the more popular stereotypes is that highly intelligent children never have moments of fancy, fantasy, hyperbole, overexcitement, naivete, or any of the thousand moments of humanity that make Gretchen a character with whom both highly intelligent kids and adults who were highly intelligent kids can relate.
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** This seems to be a case of TheWorfEffect. T.J. ''does'' try to make jokes with Slicer, but the older man completely shuts him down and treats him like a lab rat, as opposed to Prickly, who will at least groan at T.J.'s jokes and quips. By showing that even T.J. is scared, it helps to emphasize just how bad this new guy is.

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** This seems to be a case of TheWorfEffect. T.J. ''does'' try to make jokes with Slicer, but the older man completely shuts him down and treats him like a lab rat, as opposed to Prickly, who will at least groan at T.J.'s jokes quips and quips.talk to him. By showing that even T.J. is scared, it helps to emphasize just how bad this new guy is.
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* Another important part is that the kids ''like'' it when Mrs. Finster and Principal Prickly are antagonists--it gives them an "enemy" to fight and lets them be rebellious and have fun. In "The Fuss over Finster," Mrs. Finster gets a hairline fracture and ends up on crutches. The Recess Gang has fun pulling off capers at first, but when they see that Muriel is genuinely struggling to keep up with even the slowest kids, they [[NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction realize that without Finster as their foe, it's just not enjoyable to win]]. T.J. organizes the entire playground to behave super well and nice to each other to give Muriel a break (he calls her a "wounded lion"), and both sides promise that it will be "business as usual" when she's healed up. All told, the kids and the stricter staff seem to have a [[FriendlyEnemies]] situation happening, where the antagonism and troublemaking are just part and parcel of their relationship.

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* Another important part is that the kids ''like'' it when Mrs. Finster and Principal Prickly are antagonists--it gives them an "enemy" to fight and lets them be rebellious and have fun. In "The Fuss over Finster," Mrs. Finster gets a hairline fracture and ends up on crutches. The Recess Gang has fun pulling off capers at first, but when they see that Muriel is genuinely struggling to keep up with even the slowest kids, they [[NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction realize that without Finster as their foe, it's just not enjoyable to win]]. T.J. organizes the entire playground to behave super well and nice to each other to give Muriel a break (he calls her a "wounded lion"), and both sides promise that it will be "business as usual" when she's healed up. All told, the kids and the stricter staff seem to have a [[FriendlyEnemies]] FriendlyEnemies situation happening, where the antagonism and troublemaking are just part and parcel of their relationship.

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* Another important part is that the kids ''like'' it when Mrs. Finster and Principal Prickly are antagonists--it gives them an "enemy" to fight and lets them be rebellious and have fun. In "The Fuss over Finster," Mrs. Finster gets a hairline fracture and ends up on crutches. The Recess Gang has fun pulling off capers at first, but when they see that Muriel is genuinely struggling to keep up with even the slowest kids, they [[NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction realize that without Finster as their foe, it's just not enjoyable to win]]. T.J. organizes the entire playground to behave super well and nice to each other to give Muriel a break (he calls her a "wounded lion"), and both sides promise that it will be "business as usual" when she's healed up. All told, the kids and the stricter staff seem to have a [[FriendlyEnemies]] situation happening, where the antagonism and troublemaking are just part and parcel of their relationship.



* Also, in the episode with the c-note; Gretchen did not tell them that 100 divided by seven is not that much.

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* Also, in the episode with the c-note; Gretchen did not tell them that 100 divided by seven six is not that much.




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* In the ''Recess'' universe, it seems like the whole business of "kindergartner=savage" is completely normal. In ''Taking the Fifth Grade'', Gus's parents are driving him to school, and he's ''already'' dressed in "war paint" and ready to be wild and destructive. Presumably the Griswolds must be OK with it.



* Its simply because kids today, even during the 90's and early 00's when the movie was made, have a very different and difficult journey to prepare for due to how complicated the world has become. Many parents begin preparing their children in ''preschool'' because they want them to have a bigger chance at getting into prestigious colleges and careers for whcih competition has never been stiffer.

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* Its simply because kids today, even during the 90's and early 00's when the movie was made, have a very different and difficult journey to prepare for due to how complicated the world has become. Many parents begin preparing their children in ''preschool'' because they want them to have a bigger chance at getting into prestigious colleges and careers for whcih which competition has never been stiffer.


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** This seems to be a case of TheWorfEffect. T.J. ''does'' try to make jokes with Slicer, but the older man completely shuts him down and treats him like a lab rat, as opposed to Prickly, who will at least groan at T.J.'s jokes and quips. By showing that even T.J. is scared, it helps to emphasize just how bad this new guy is.

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* It's not that she's wearing a dress, it's that she's wearing a very "girly" dress. Spinelli's usual outfit does have a dress as its base, but it's very plain. It's also overshadowed by the leather jacket, combat boots, and knit cap she always wears, which are much more tomboyish. The dress the Ashleys make her wear looks like something out of an Easter parade, which is why Randall laughs at her.



** They both mellowed out considerably by the end of the show. In the first season, they were both sadists who existed just to torment the students. Over time, they became humanized. It may also have to do with ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Since the entire show is framed from a kid's perspective, the writers may have chosen to make the stricter adults into outright jerks. Contrast that with a show like HeyArnold where every adult is given their fair day from the start.

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** They both mellowed out considerably by the end of the show. In the first season, they were both sadists who existed just to torment the students. Over time, they became humanized. It may also have to do with ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Since the entire show is framed from a kid's perspective, the writers may have chosen to make the stricter adults into outright jerks. Contrast that with a show like HeyArnold ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' where every adult is given their fair day from the start.start.
* It's also worth noting that though Mrs. Finster and Principal Prickly are short-tempered and grouchy, they aren't cruel. In "The Biggest Trouble Ever," Mrs. Finster makes the kids do chores for breaking the new statue--understandable-- and when she hears that they'll be transferred to separate schools, both she and Prickly think it's too extreme. Similarly, if child is actually in ''danger'', they fly into action and protect them. In "The Library Kid," when the title character is stuck on a flagpole and can't get down, Mrs. Finster is genuinely concerned for her, calls the Fire Department, and even screams in fear when she sees the girl trapped. So even though they can be nasty, they do care about the kids.
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** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the...uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.

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** One part Nostalgia Goggles, one part cultural drift; every generation grows up faster than the one before it. When Recess was on TV, it was aimed at kids around the same age as or younger than the main cast, which meant 6-10 year olds, with ParentalBonus gags. Kids that age today are exposed to much more adult media, and some of them have probably had MySpace/Facebook [=MySpace=]/Facebook pages ''since they were born'', so the internet (and the...uh, shall we say [[GreaterInternetFuckwadTheory social interaction unrestricted by traditional etiquette that comes with it)]] are a very basic part of their lives. Kids today aren't any more ''mature'', but they have access to a lot more information.

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