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*** If somebody dies in their sleep, how could we possibly know what they were dreaming about?
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[[WMG:Misato having Shinji wear a DSS Choker in 3.0 + 1.0]]
Why, exactly? Didn't Misato just finish a whole speech about how, yes, she's just as responsible for the current events as Shinji is? Why then did she put a choker on him, despite him getting into the Eva? Is it because she's taking precautions? Does it mean that, while she accepts her role in everything going on, she secretly is still paranoid that Shinji would accidentally cause another impact?
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*** And even if this weren’t the case, they believe Shinji plunged the whole world into its current hellhole state. With or without one’s treasured sibling, that’s a pretty big deal.

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*** Pretty much explained in the final movie: Rei is still kind of Yui's daugther, and Gendou is [[spoiler: utterly oblivious about the fact something of Yui resides in her offspring]]. Pretty much, Rei and even Shinji in his own ways are a living remainder of the fact Yui is no longer in this world and until he starts to move on, everything remembering her won't be a treasure to cherish but a living monument to his GreatestFailure.
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* It's the obligatory low point for the hero before he defeats the villain once and for all. Also, Anno said once that NGE was about how "sometimes you have to escape". Take that as you will. It's possible Anno found this plot point would convey this theme better than it was conveyed in the original show.

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* It's the obligatory low point for the hero before he defeats the villain once and for all. Also, Anno said once that NGE was about how "sometimes you have to escape". Take that as you will. It's possible Anno found this plot point would convey this theme better than it was conveyed in the original show.show.
* The main point was that even though Shinji stepped up to confront his problems head on in 2.0, the main issue is that the moment he finds out it didn't succeed or it didn't turn out the way he wanted to in 3.0, he immediately regresses back to his old self in an effort to avoid taking responsibility or admitting fault. This comes together in 3.0+1.0, giving us the message that while it is better to confront your problems head on, you have to be willing to admit your mistakes and take responsibility if something goes wrong, as can be seen with both Shinji and Misato coming to terms for their combined roles in Near Third Impact.
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* 3.0+1.0 reveals that Rebuild is not a direct sequel to the series, but part of a cycle of timelines. Previous installments in the franchise are simply previous timelines which ultimately failed and were reset, thus perpetuating the cycle. The cycle is only broken for good when Shinji writes Angels and Evas out of existence.




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** You must be confusing her with another character. Sakura has shown Shinji nothing but kindness and respect during the during 3.0 and 3.0+1.0. It's only during the climax, where she's willing to wound Shinji to prevent him from piloting Unit-01, she shows any hostility towards him, and that's due to her conflicting emotions about Shinji being the cause of Near Third Impact which killed her father, and his status as Toji's friend.
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** ''3.0 + 1.0'' shows that she's friends with Yui, meaning that she's been around NERV and the Eva project from the start.
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*** Except that the final of the saga goes completely against these messages [[spoiler:by having Shinji reject the current (admittedly shitty) reality so hard that he rebuild it to a world where the entire ecosystem is good as new and the Evas and Angels are retconned out of existence and resurrects everyone who died (Rei, Kaworu and maybe even Kaji and Misato)... and then deciding that ''he'' was the problem in their life and then leave their life.]]

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*** Except that the final of the saga goes completely against these messages [[spoiler:by having Shinji reject the current (admittedly shitty) reality so hard that he rebuild it to a world where the entire ecosystem is good as new and the Evas and Angels are retconned out of existence and resurrects everyone who died (Rei, Kaworu and maybe even Kaji and Misato)... and then deciding that ''he'' was the problem in their life and then leave their life.]]]]
* It's the obligatory low point for the hero before he defeats the villain once and for all. Also, Anno said once that NGE was about how "sometimes you have to escape". Take that as you will. It's possible Anno found this plot point would convey this theme better than it was conveyed in the original show.
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*** Shinji isolating himself ultimately only made things more miserable for him. Those months interacting with Misato, Kensuke, Touji, Kaworu, Rei and Asuka (complicated as she was) were undoubtly the happiest moments of his life, even if he also experienced a lot of grief during those same months. That's why in EoE he choses to reject instrumentality, finding that those brief moments of real happiness were worth the pain.

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*** Shinji isolating himself ultimately only made things more miserable for him. Those months interacting with Misato, Kensuke, Touji, Kaworu, Rei and Asuka (complicated as she was) were undoubtly the happiest moments of his life, even if he also experienced a lot of grief during those same months. That's why in EoE he choses to reject instrumentality, finding that those brief moments of real happiness were worth the pain.pain.
*** Except that the final of the saga goes completely against these messages [[spoiler:by having Shinji reject the current (admittedly shitty) reality so hard that he rebuild it to a world where the entire ecosystem is good as new and the Evas and Angels are retconned out of existence and resurrects everyone who died (Rei, Kaworu and maybe even Kaji and Misato)... and then deciding that ''he'' was the problem in their life and then leave their life.]]
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*** Shinji isolating himself ultimately only made things more miserable for him. Those months interacting with Misato, Kensuke, Touji, Kaworu, Rei and Asuka (complicated as she was) were undoubtly the happiest moments of his life, even if he also experienced a lot of grief during those same months. That's why in EoE he choses to reject instrumentality, finding that thoise brief moments of real happiness were worth the pain. Of course it is all moot because [[spoiler:in Rebuild he finally takes the blue pill and solves all his problems with the space magic]].

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*** Shinji isolating himself ultimately only made things more miserable for him. Those months interacting with Misato, Kensuke, Touji, Kaworu, Rei and Asuka (complicated as she was) were undoubtly the happiest moments of his life, even if he also experienced a lot of grief during those same months. That's why in EoE he choses to reject instrumentality, finding that thoise those brief moments of real happiness were worth the pain. Of course it is all moot because [[spoiler:in Rebuild he finally takes the blue pill and solves all his problems with the space magic]].pain.
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[[WMG: What's with Sakura?]]
Maybe, ''maybe'', I missed something, but... in 3.0+1.0, we find out that Touji, Sakura's brother, is ALIVE and well. And yet... she treats Shinji with nothing with disdain? Excuse me? Her brother is ALIVE, she could go visit him any time... but she continues to want to try to be absolutely spiteful towards Shinji... I don't understand. Can someone explain?
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*** My point is, if you make real-life unappealing and terrible constantly, there's no support as to WHY escapism should be rejected. You can't just say "You should choose reality because of reasons". Also, what matters is if a person is happy or not. Other people don't have the right to dictate that a person is being happy the "wrong" way? If you wanna make real life the better choice, give an actual REASON as to why it's better. And as far as Eva is concerned, it's done nothing but constantly make reality endlessly shit on Shinji.

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*** My point is, if you make real-life unappealing and terrible constantly, there's no support as to WHY escapism should be rejected. You can't just say "You should choose reality because of reasons". Also, what matters is if a person is happy or not. Other people don't have the right to dictate that a person is being happy the "wrong" way? If you wanna make real life the better choice, give an actual REASON as to why it's better. And as far as Eva is concerned, it's done nothing but constantly make reality endlessly shit on Shinji.Shinji.
*** Shinji isolating himself ultimately only made things more miserable for him. Those months interacting with Misato, Kensuke, Touji, Kaworu, Rei and Asuka (complicated as she was) were undoubtly the happiest moments of his life, even if he also experienced a lot of grief during those same months. That's why in EoE he choses to reject instrumentality, finding that thoise brief moments of real happiness were worth the pain. Of course it is all moot because [[spoiler:in Rebuild he finally takes the blue pill and solves all his problems with the space magic]].
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*** Just because it is harsh doesn't make the message any less true, reality doesn't have to be nice especially if you avoid it by immersing into escapism instead of trying to change it. You can find easy solace in a cartoon waifu but at the end of the day it's just a hollow effigy, no susbtitute for a real human relationship. Of course the message DOES get muddled by the fact that people pushing the message also don't mind selling those cartoon waifus to masses of people looking to indulge in escapism.

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*** Just because it is harsh doesn't make the message any less true, reality doesn't have to be nice especially if you avoid it by immersing into escapism instead of trying to change it. You can find easy solace in a cartoon waifu but at the end of the day it's just a hollow effigy, no susbtitute for a real human relationship. Of course the message DOES get muddled by the fact that people pushing the message also don't mind selling those cartoon waifus to masses of people looking to indulge in escapism.escapism.
**** My point is, if you make real-life unappealing and terrible constantly, there's no support as to WHY escapism should be rejected. You can't just say "You should choose reality because of reasons". Also, what matters is if a person is happy or not. Other people don't have the right to dictate that a person is being happy the "wrong" way? If you wanna make real life the better choice, give an actual REASON as to why it's better. And as far as Eva is concerned, it's done nothing but constantly make reality endlessly shit on Shinji.
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*** Just because it is harsh doesn't make the message any less true, reality doesn't have to be nice especially if you avoid it by immersing into escapism instead of trying to change it. You can find easy solace in a cartoon waifu but at the end of the day it's just a hollow effigy, no susbtitute for a real human relationship. Of course the message DOES get muddled by the fact that people pushing the message also don't mind selling those cartoon waifus to masses of people looking or escapism.

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*** Just because it is harsh doesn't make the message any less true, reality doesn't have to be nice especially if you avoid it by immersing into escapism instead of trying to change it. You can find easy solace in a cartoon waifu but at the end of the day it's just a hollow effigy, no susbtitute for a real human relationship. Of course the message DOES get muddled by the fact that people pushing the message also don't mind selling those cartoon waifus to masses of people looking or to indulge in escapism.
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** That seems like a terrible message, especially when you take Eva into account that EVERY instant of real-life in the series being absolute crap. There's no actual support as to why reality is better or why it should be picked over escapism because when you show reality as being constantly unappealing, that's just building more support for escapism. Or at the very least, Eva does a very crap job in actually delivering this message.

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** That seems like a terrible message, especially when you take Eva into account that EVERY instant of real-life in the series being absolute crap. There's no actual support as to why reality is better or why it should be picked over escapism because when you show reality as being constantly unappealing, that's just building more support for escapism. Or at the very least, Eva does a very crap job in actually delivering this message.message.
*** Just because it is harsh doesn't make the message any less true, reality doesn't have to be nice especially if you avoid it by immersing into escapism instead of trying to change it. You can find easy solace in a cartoon waifu but at the end of the day it's just a hollow effigy, no susbtitute for a real human relationship. Of course the message DOES get muddled by the fact that people pushing the message also don't mind selling those cartoon waifus to masses of people looking or escapism.
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** That seems like a terrible message, especially when you take Eva into account that EVERY instant of real-life in the series being absolute crap. There's no actual support as to why reality is better or why it should be picked over escapism because when you show reality as being constantly bad, that's just building more support for escapism. Or at the very least, Eva does a very crap job in actually delivering this message.

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** That seems like a terrible message, especially when you take Eva into account that EVERY instant of real-life in the series being absolute crap. There's no actual support as to why reality is better or why it should be picked over escapism because when you show reality as being constantly bad, unappealing, that's just building more support for escapism. Or at the very least, Eva does a very crap job in actually delivering this message.
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* The actual message in Evangelion is that while it is true that life is a pitiless struggle against almost impossible odds where even if you do everything right you can still lose... and yet it is worth all the pain and misery because it is real and no form of escapism can replace it.

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* The actual message in Evangelion is that while it is true that life is a pitiless struggle against almost impossible odds where even if you do everything right you can still lose... and yet it is worth all the pain and misery because it is real and no form of escapism can replace it.it.
** That seems like a terrible message, especially when you take Eva into account that EVERY instant of real-life in the series being absolute crap. There's no actual support as to why reality is better or why it should be picked over escapism because when you show reality as being constantly bad, that's just building more support for escapism. Or at the very least, Eva does a very crap job in actually delivering this message.
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* I think it's trying to reach a point of balance of the two extremes. Shinji's issue in Rebuild is that he tends to rashly do things without really thinking of everything else going on, as a result he often plays into other's hands, though completely rendering 2.x's victory absolutely hallow is rather harsh.

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* I think it's trying to reach a point of balance of the two extremes. Shinji's issue in Rebuild is that he tends to rashly do things without really thinking of everything else going on, as a result he often plays into other's hands, though completely rendering 2.x's victory absolutely hallow is rather harsh.harsh.
* The actual message in Evangelion is that while it is true that life is a pitiless struggle against almost impossible odds where even if you do everything right you can still lose... and yet it is worth all the pain and misery because it is real and no form of escapism can replace it.
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This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the concept that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.

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This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the concept that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.across.
* I think it's trying to reach a point of balance of the two extremes. Shinji's issue in Rebuild is that he tends to rashly do things without really thinking of everything else going on, as a result he often plays into other's hands, though completely rendering 2.x's victory absolutely hallow is rather harsh.
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This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the message that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.

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This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the message concept that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.
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* This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the message that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.

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* This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the message that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.
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Is there a specific reason Kaworu had to die to stop 4th Impact? Wouldn't it have been enough if his entry plug was removed like Shinji's? There were at least two scenes that showed pilots can eject their entry plug in case of emergency. Unless Unit-13 was built without this function this should have been an option. Or was his death necessary because he was an Angel and his sheer existence kept the Impact running?

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Is there a specific reason Kaworu had to die to stop 4th Impact? Wouldn't it have been enough if his entry plug was removed like Shinji's? There were at least two scenes that showed pilots can eject their entry plug in case of emergency. Unless Unit-13 was built without this function this should have been an option. Or was his death necessary because he was an Angel and his sheer existence kept the Impact running?running?

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* This is more a question about the theme/message of Eva more than anything. Both Rebuild and the original series carried this similar theme about confronting your problems head-on, not just shutting away or running away from your problems. But every single time Shinji finally stops running away and actually does something, or works for a goal he genuinely wants (Like saving Rei), EVERYTHING ends up going to hell and Shinji gets crapped on for doing anything. He gets crapped on for doing nothing and then insulted for doing something. What exactly is Anno trying to say here? Stop running away and keep fucking things up for everyone? I honestly don't get this because both series seem to work against the message that is claimed to be the overall central message that all of Eva has tried to get across.
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* Off the top; one of the very first scenes in 1.0 is near-identical to one of the final scenes in EOE (red waves). There’s also the red ocean and a streak of dried blood on the moon (presumably from where Giant Naked Rei was killed), as well as Kaworu’s cryptic dialogue implying he’s aware of what’s happening, as if he’s seen it before. Never mind that Seele was constructing the Mark 6 on the Moon, which seems like a big stretch of their capabilities...but one of the concepts for Unit 1’s Fate in EOE was for it to rest on the moon. Growing an Eva in space might be far fetched...but stripping and replacing its armor? That seems reasonable. It also has a Spear of Longinus that Kaworu used to stop Near Third Impact...and Unit 1 did have it in its possession at the end of EOE. Well, this is all circumstantial evidence, but it was popular in Eva fan fiction for Shinji, Asuka, etc. to be sent back in time and try to avert Third Impact. The theory goes that Shinji or Rei somehow rewound time on Earth (but forgot the Moon...), and are trying to do better the second try.
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How does that supposed to work? OK, let's pretend that everybody went back after the third impact, and they don't have memories of the tang and the giant rei in the sky and whatnot. Shouldn't there be plenty of physical evidence lying around about the events that happened in Tokyo-3?
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[[WMG:Why do people keep living in Tokyo3?]]
And what's more, why keep rebuilding the city when it's located above the GeoFront? I understand that that a lot of rebuttals to idiotic details is "It was predicted in the Dead Sea Scrolls/Seele planned it this way", but they can't honestly want millions of dollars worth of collateral damage every couple of weeks due to Angel attacks, especially when they complain about the cost of repairing Evas. And the city's population only finally moves out after Rei self destructs and floods half the city, even though at least 5 angel fights have actually taken place IN the city.

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[[WMG:Why do people keep living in Tokyo3?]]
[=Tokyo3]=?]]
And what's more, why keep rebuilding the city when it's located above the GeoFront? [=GeoFront=]? I understand that that a lot of rebuttals to idiotic details is "It was predicted in the Dead Sea Scrolls/Seele planned it this way", but they can't honestly want millions of dollars worth of collateral damage every couple of weeks due to Angel attacks, especially when they complain about the cost of repairing Evas. And the city's population only finally moves out after Rei self destructs and floods half the city, even though at least 5 angel fights have actually taken place IN the city.



** Your second answer doesn't answer the question; freshwater algae isn't enough to keep the atmosphere oxygenated enough even for a post-second impact population size, only saltwater algae is enough to keep the earth breathing. So even if the rivers aren't contaminated, everyone should still be gasping for breath like they had just climbed the Himalayas all the time at the very least. Maybe what the answer is that the algae isn't affected by the red ocean water, or, if Rebuild is a sequel, LCL preforms the same function of oxygenating the atmosphere and somehow acts like a desiccant, but only for CO2. Or something...

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** Your second answer doesn't answer the question; freshwater algae isn't enough to keep the atmosphere oxygenated enough even for a post-second impact population size, only saltwater algae is enough to keep the earth breathing. So even if the rivers aren't contaminated, everyone should still be gasping for breath like they had just climbed the Himalayas all the time at the very least. Maybe what the answer is that the algae isn't affected by the red ocean water, or, if Rebuild is a sequel, LCL preforms the same function of oxygenating the atmosphere and somehow acts like a desiccant, but only for CO2.[=CO2=]. Or something...
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* The fact that Mari knows and does things she shouldn't be able to is a completely deliberate part of her character in 2.0; all the other characters are just as baffled as you when she suddenly brings out 02.
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* I always assumed that the entire city was built to serve the needs of NERV. Like the whole city is just full of factories building random equipment that NERV needs, plus schools that train people to do NERV stuff. A lot of those employees and subcontractors have their own families, and they need to buy groceries and whatnot, and that fills out the rest of the city. The city is there because NERV is there. And people work for NERV because it's a good paycheck and/or they believe that NERV is the only thing that can save the world from Angels.

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