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* It's clearly stated that shortly after the special ore was discovered, people began dying of a mysterious illness. So people were dying to the hallucinogenic gas within days, but the surviving townsfolk (or just Anton, if you interpret it that every living person except him in the town was entirely a hallucination and didn't exist) managed to survive for 50 years afterwards with barely any ill physical effects? Sure, Anton was crazy, but he seemed quite physically fit for someone his age, what with the whole epic sword fight and everything.
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* How did Chemley get away with his screwups on this case? He used department resources and came very close to making a false arrest for a murder that ''didn't happen''. What's more, he should have ''known'' it didn't happen before leaving London. You can't have a murder investigation without a murder. You can't have a murder without evidence that somebody died. And unless the body is missing parts, the only people who have the authority to declare a body to be dead are trained medical professionals, a category which police investigators and archeologists do not belong to. Since Shraeder wasn't dead, and a competent doctor would have known this, the biggest crime that he had knowledge of was that somebody wrecked a curtain to leave Shraeder's office without using the door, possibly in possession of an item which he had no solid proof of being there in the first place. Hardly serious enough to justify booking a trip on a luxury transport.

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* How did Chemley Chelmey get away with his screwups on this case? He used department resources and came very close to making a false arrest for a murder that ''didn't happen''. What's more, he should have ''known'' it didn't happen before leaving London. You can't have a murder investigation without a murder. You can't have a murder without evidence that somebody died. And unless the body is missing parts, the only people who have the authority to declare a body to be dead are trained medical professionals, a category which police investigators and archeologists do not belong to. Since Shraeder wasn't dead, and a competent doctor would have known this, the biggest crime that he had knowledge of was that somebody wrecked a curtain to leave Shraeder's office without using the door, possibly in possession of an item which he had no solid proof of being there in the first place. Hardly serious enough to justify booking a trip on a luxury transport.



** The Molentary express is often called a cruise ship on rails. Cruise ships often sail more slowly than possible to let passengers enjoy the trip. Also, schizo tech means alternate reality. Alternate reality can possibly mean alternate geography.

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** The Molentary express Express is often called a cruise 'cruise ship on rails. rails.' Cruise ships often sail more slowly than possible necessary to let passengers enjoy the trip. Also, schizo tech means alternate reality. Alternate reality can possibly mean alternate geography.



* The statue of the author and the boy. Did something seem off about that to anyone else? [[spoiler:Sure, Clive included it on the set of Future London as a subconscious tribute to Layton for keeping him from going insane by the loss of his parents (as a child, at least...). That's well and fine. But when Luke sees it for the first time on the way to Chinatown, it’s strange that he has been led to believe that the Future Layton is a crime boss and that the Future Luke is leading a rebellion against him… and it doesn’t seem to bother him too much. This would clearly be something that would upset Luke, having his imagination wander, visualizing what it must have been like for his future self and mentor to go their separate ways so dramatically. So why does Luke go off by himself, back to the statue, ''after'' discovering that Dimitri had been posing as the Future Layton? Why didn’t he run away while he still had the prospect of an evil Future Layton? Maybe all of his worries of his and the professor’s friendship had been building up since then, and even though he finds out the truth about Future Layton, and he just needed some time by himself to think. That could be the case, but I just think that they could have made that more clear.]]

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* The statue of the author and the boy. Did something seem off about that to anyone else? [[spoiler:Sure, Clive included it on the set of Future London as a subconscious tribute to Layton for keeping him from going insane by from the loss of his parents (as a child, at least...). That's well and fine. But when Luke sees it for the first time on the way to Chinatown, it’s strange that he has been led to believe that the Future Layton is a crime boss and that the Future Luke is leading a rebellion against him… and it doesn’t seem to bother him too much. This would clearly be something that would upset Luke, having his imagination wander, visualizing what it must have been like for his future self and mentor to go their separate ways so dramatically. So why does Luke go off by himself, back to the statue, ''after'' discovering that Dimitri had been posing as the Future Layton? Why didn’t he run away while he still had the prospect of an evil Future Layton? Maybe all of his worries of his and the professor’s friendship had been building up since then, and even though he finds out the truth about Future Layton, and he just needed some time by himself to think. That could be the case, but I just think that they could have made that more clear.]]



* What exactly does [[spoiler:Clive need Dimitri for in his grand plans? Sure, Dimitri would benefit from Clive's resources and supposed support, but what does Clive gain from it, apart from the chance to manipulate one of the men responsible for his parent's death?]]
** [[spoiler:I gathered that Clive didn't really "need" Dimitri for anything. He just pretended to play along so that Dimitri wouldn't get suspicious about his ''real'' plans. So basically, yes, he was just trying to manipulate him.]]

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* What exactly does [[spoiler:Clive need Dimitri for in his grand plans? Sure, Dimitri would benefit from Clive's resources and supposed support, but what does Clive gain from it, apart from the chance to manipulate one of the men responsible for his parent's death?]]
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** [[spoiler:I gathered that Clive didn't really "need" ''need'' Dimitri for anything. He just pretended to play along so that Dimitri wouldn't get suspicious about his ''real'' plans. So basically, yes, he was just trying to manipulate him.]]



*** If the rumour that Descole is really Lando is true, then he might be trying to one-up the guy he taught archeology to, seeing how super awesome and famous Layton's become. That would also explain why he was so furious about Layton being the one to raise Ambrosia instead of being all 'Oh hey, thanks for doing my work for me' about it. I'm guessing we'll get the answer when it's revealed who Descole really is.
* Was the reason why the Melina inside Jenis different than the one implanted into Emily because Jenis accepted Melina's memories? Also, how could Melina choose to just "move on" at the end if "she", as in her memories, was just a bunch of electronic information? Does that mean her father actually did something like a soul upload and not just a memory upload? If that was the case, the ending would make sense, because then it would be essentially her spirit leaving Jenis to leave for the afterlife. We were told, however, that Jenis was only implanted with Melina's memories and that she accepted it. Thus, Melina shouldn't have been able to disappear like that. Melina, in all likelihood, probably retreated to the furthest recesses of Jenis' mind so that she wouldn't bother Jenis anymore..

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*** If the rumour fan theory that Descole is really Lando is true, then he might be trying to one-up the guy he taught archeology to, seeing how super awesome and famous Layton's become. That would also explain why he was so furious about Layton being the one to raise Ambrosia instead of being all 'Oh hey, thanks for doing my work for me' about it. I'm guessing we'll get the answer when it's revealed who Descole really is.
* Was the reason why the Melina inside Jenis was different than the one implanted into Emily because Jenis accepted Melina's memories? Also, how could Melina choose to just "move on" at the end if "she", as in her memories, was just a bunch of electronic information? Does that mean her father actually did something like a soul upload and not just a memory upload? If that was the case, the ending would make sense, because then it would be essentially her spirit leaving Jenis to leave for the afterlife. We were told, however, that Jenis was only implanted with Melina's memories and that she accepted it. Thus, Melina shouldn't have been able to disappear like that. Melina, in all likelihood, probably retreated to the furthest recesses of Jenis' mind so that she wouldn't bother Jenis anymore..

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* In the end it's revealed that this whole Folsense mess came about when Sofia left Anton in order to keep their unborn child safe. Fair enough, but one has to wonder why she didn't attempt to visit her lover when the child was old enough to be away from mommy for a few days. Also, while the excuse could be "Anton was crazy," why on Earth would someone use a fancy expensive box to carry a important letter? Far better to just send it in an ordinary envelope.

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* In the end it's revealed that this whole Folsense mess came about when Sofia Sophia left Anton in order to keep their unborn child safe. Fair enough, but one has to wonder why she didn't attempt to visit her lover when the child was old enough to be away from mommy for a few days. Also, while the excuse could be "Anton was crazy," why on Earth would someone use a fancy expensive box to carry a important letter? Far better to just send it in an ordinary envelope.



*** Not necessarily UnfortunateImplications. The mom isn't in the portrait with the Duke and his sons; there could have been a separate portrait of the mom and one or more daughters. Maybe Sammy's mother was Beluga's sister, and when she left Folsense upon her marriage, she took that portrait with her. It's pure speculation, of course, but it's not implausible.



* Wait, so Sofia did get a hold of the Elysian box at some point, and had it long enough to take out Anton's letter, read it, and replace it with one of her own. How come ''she'' didn't hallucinate and freak out like everyone else?

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* Wait, so Sofia Sophia did get a hold of the Elysian box at some point, and had it long enough to take out Anton's letter, read it, and replace it with one of her own. How come ''she'' didn't hallucinate and freak out like everyone else?

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** [[spoiler:I gathered that Clive didn't really "need" Dimitri for anything. He just pretended to play along so that Dimitri wouldn't get suspicious about his ''real'' plans. So basically, yes, he was just trying to manipulate him.]]




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** [[spoiler:Clive's goal was revenge, and he himself admits that he wasn't really thinking clearly at the end. That, and he wasn't trying to make a political statement specifically, he was just trying to get back at Dimitri and Bill Hawks, and since Bill unfortunately happened to be Prime Minister, the destroying-London bit was an effect of that. Had Bill not become Prime Minister, Clive would probably have come up with something a bit less destructive.]]
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** Well, at least the gas is gone now [[spoiler:thanks to Anton's castle collapsing in the climax and plugging up the mines]], so it's not like that part's an issue anymore. You have a point about all the dilapidated buildings, but given how everyone from Dropstone is seen meeting up with Katia and Anton in the credits, it's probable that they started repairing Folsense. Now whether or not they stayed there the whole time or actually went back to Dropstone to rest up in their actually functional homes every once in a while is another matter entirely...

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** Well, IIRC, the family portrait in the museum only showed Beluga, Anton, and their dad, right? Since their mom isn't included, it's possible that they have a sister who wasn't included as well who could be Sammy's mother. Though this is WildMassGuessing on my part and probably has some UnfortunateImplications in it.

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** Well, IIRC, the family portrait in the museum only showed Beluga, Anton, and their dad, right? Since their mom isn't included, it's possible that they have a sister who wasn't included as well who could be Sammy's mother. Though this is WildMassGuessing on my part and probably possibly has some UnfortunateImplications in it.


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** Anton ''may'' be justified by something like HonorBeforeReason; yeah, he doesn't ''have'' to stay (and really ''shouldn't'' have, for that matter), but he felt like he had to. As for why Sophia and the rest of the evacuees never tried to tell everyone else about their suspicions... Well, they were just that, suspicions, and they weren't really sure of the specifics. In the game, I believe even some of the Folsense residents know that "a few years ago" (really 50, of course, but they don't know that), a lot of people started getting sick (from the gas, obviously), but they didn't know that the gas was a hallucinogen too. They probably just thought whatever was making them sick would pass and things would go back to normal soon.

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*** The series takes place in a huge AnachronismStew, but the main era is the modern day. Therefore, we can assume that medical professionals ''would'' be able to tell that Schraeder wasn't dead, and thus Chelmey had no reason to be on the train,

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*** The series takes place in a huge AnachronismStew, but the main era is the modern day. Therefore, we can assume that medical professionals ''would'' be able to tell that Schraeder wasn't dead, and thus Chelmey had no reason to be on the train,train.




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* Okay, so Layton and Luke see Folsense the way they do [[spoiler:due to a combination of the gas and the photos at the train station. My question is, how do Katia and Mr. Beluga (and possibly Sammy by extension) see it? Katia and Beluga ought to know that the city is ''really'' 50 years older than it looks, so even if they don't know about the gas specifically, they should be able to "see though" the hallucination by virtue of what they know about Folsense's age.]] Minor, yes, but still something that just confuses me.


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** [[spoiler:I thought that construction worker said they'd been ''renovating'' for a year. Anyway, I'm assuming that a good chunk of the buildings are hollow; there's no other way Clive would have the time, never mind the money, to build the city otherwise.]]


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** What bugs me about Flora's voice is the fact that her voice actress voices a good deal of other characters and pulls off at least a semi-British accent for all of them. I understand that it would be difficult to come up with a unique voice for that many characters, but it's a bit strange that Flora is the only one without the accent.

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** Perhaps Flora is just very expressive when she's happy, and laughing/smiling hard enough causes her neck/shoulder muscles to stretch in [[ContrivedCoincidence just the right way to make the birthmark look like an apple]].



** Sure, [[spoiler: Don Paolo doesn't like Layton]] and theoretically has no reason to give him a puzzle based on that, but [[spoiler: "Chelmey" has no reason to dislike Layton and Don Paolo is trying to keep up the disguise]]...



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** Intelligence doesn't mean wisdom.

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** [[AbsentMindedProfessor Intelligence doesn't mean wisdom.]]



** It's possible that he thought once Flora found a suitable guardian, their purpose would be fulfilled. Flora, Luke and Layton, however, happened to see them as their own people, and didn't go through with it.

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** It's possible that he thought once Flora found a suitable guardian, their purpose would be fulfilled. Flora, Luke Luke, and Layton, however, happened to see them as their own people, and didn't go through with it.



* Inspector Chelmey gives Layton a puzzle at least once [[spoiler:but the "Chelmey" here is really Don Paolo]].

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* Inspector Chelmey gives Layton a puzzle at least once once, [[spoiler:but the "Chelmey" here is really Don Paolo]].






* How ''exactly'' is Flora related to the Professor? From what I gather, he ended up adopting her at the end of Curious Village, but when they unmask her on the Molentary Express in Diabolical Box, they act like they hadn't seen her since, which is really the only thing that makes sense since I kind of doubt the Professor would just ride off to solve another mystery and leave the ''other'' orphan he's supposed to provide for behind without any explanation.

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* How ''exactly'' is Flora related to the Professor? From what I gather, he ended up adopting her at the end of Curious Village, but when they unmask her on the Molentary Express in Diabolical Box, they act like they hadn't seen her since, which is really the only thing that makes sense sense, since I kind of doubt the Professor would just ride off to solve another mystery and leave the ''other'' orphan he's supposed to provide for behind without any explanation.



*** Layton's also a very British gentleman. He's not particularly known for his emotional outbursts, is he? He seems cool in any situation, and he was probably brought up to keep stronger displays of emotion to himself. Although he didn't show it, he was probably worried sick about Flora--but knowing that he couldn't go back to her with any speed, he just kept a StiffUpperLip until they could really do something.

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*** Layton's also a very British gentleman. He's not particularly known for his emotional outbursts, is he? He seems cool in any situation, and he was probably brought up to keep stronger displays of emotion to himself. Although he didn't show it, he was probably worried sick about Flora--but Flora -- but knowing that he couldn't go back to her with any speed, he just kept a StiffUpperLip until they could really do something.



** The box was probably Anton's way of expressing his feelings. If you look back to the credits you would see that the necklace that Sophia gave to Katia was a gift from Anton, and from the looks of it that gift came right from the same box. Anton knew the significance of that box and had it furnished into something fancy looking probably to impress Sophia. Or I could be wrong and Anton is just a loony.
* How can Sammy possibly be Beluga's nephew? Beluga doesn't have any siblings aside from Anton and he doesn't even know that he's had kids. Now, I don't know if the term nephew can be applied to an in-law's son, but it doesn't look like Beluga's married, either.
** According to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephew_and_niece wikipedia]] the children of your wife's siblings can be considered nieces/nephews. I guess even a guy like him would have a wife. For appearance sake if nothing else.

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** The box was probably Anton's way of expressing his feelings. If you look back to the credits credits, you would see that the necklace that Sophia gave to Katia was a gift from Anton, and from the looks of it it, that gift came right from the same box. Anton knew the significance of that box and had it furnished into something fancy looking fancy-looking, probably to impress Sophia. Or I could be wrong and Anton is just a loony.
* How can Sammy possibly be Beluga's nephew? Beluga doesn't have any siblings aside from Anton Anton, and he doesn't even know that he's had kids. Now, I don't know if the term nephew can be applied to an in-law's son, but it doesn't look like Beluga's married, either.
** According to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephew_and_niece wikipedia]] Wikipedia]], the children of your wife's siblings can be considered nieces/nephews. I guess even a guy like him would have a wife. For appearance appearance's sake if nothing else.



** Well, there's a lot of possible explanations for this one. Maybe the gas is released only when the main container is opened, and Sophia somehow knew to look for the secret lock, though this doesn't make that much sense. Or Maybe Sophia didn't know that is was ''the'' Elysian Box, and thus the box only played the occasional passive trick on her that could be chalked up to senility. Or maybe Sophia knew just how dangerous it could be and made only as little contact with the actual box as necessary.

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** Well, there's a lot of possible explanations for this one. Maybe the gas is released only when the main container is opened, and Sophia somehow knew to look for the secret lock, though this doesn't make that much sense. Or Maybe maybe Sophia didn't know that is it was ''the'' Elysian Box, and thus the box only played the occasional passive trick on her that could be chalked up to senility. Or maybe Sophia knew just how dangerous it could be and made only as little contact with the actual box as necessary.



** Didn't she also solve "The Elysian Box"? There seem to be two ways to open the box; 1)Open it normally, and if you survive the hallucinogen, find nothing, or 2) Solve the riddle, open the secret compartment, and get the letter.

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** Didn't she also solve "The Elysian Box"? There seem to be two ways to open the box; 1)Open 1) Open it normally, and if you survive the hallucinogen, find nothing, or 2) Solve the riddle, open the secret compartment, and get the letter.



** My guess is that, since the "curse" only killed because the gas made people halucinate they were dying, and they only halucinate they were dying because they opened the box thinking about the curse, that she didn't know about any supposed curse. She probably got real high for a while, though.
* So everyone in Folsense but Anton is a hallucination. The problem here is that supposedly the reason why the town looks the way it does is that Layton and co saw the pictures in the train station and thus imagined the town to look like it did fifty years ago, but then you get the people of the town giving accurate histories of the place. That would make more sense if it turned out that they were all ''Anton's'' hallucinations, because presumably Anton knows the history of his own town, but...I don't know, the end of the game just breaks my brain.

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** My guess is that, since the "curse" only killed because the gas made people halucinate hallucinate they were dying, and they only halucinate hallucinate they were dying because they opened the box thinking about the curse, that she didn't know about any supposed curse. She probably got real high for a while, though.
* So everyone in Folsense but Anton is a hallucination. The problem here is that supposedly the reason why the town looks the way it does is that Layton and co saw the pictures in the train station and thus imagined the town to look like it did fifty years ago, but then you get the people of the town giving accurate histories of the place. That would make more sense if it turned out that they were all ''Anton's'' hallucinations, because presumably Anton knows the history of his own town, but... I don't know, the end of the game just breaks my brain.



*** That would explain how Layton and Beluga both were able to interact with the bellhop. Makes you wonder about the real ages of the children though.
**** I've always thought they were zombie-like things, being kept alive by the gas

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*** That would explain how Layton and Beluga both were able to interact with the bellhop. Makes you wonder about the real ages of the children children, though.
**** I've always thought they were zombie-like things, being kept alive by the gasgas.



* At the end of ''Curious Village'', you learn that everyone loves puzzles because [[spoiler:they're all [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot ridiculously human robots]].]] So why does everyone in ''Diabolical Box'' - and presumably ''Last Time Travel'' and the additional sequels - also love puzzles? They can't use the same excuse this time!

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* At the end of ''Curious Village'', you learn that everyone loves puzzles because [[spoiler:they're all [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot ridiculously human robots]].]] So why does everyone in ''Diabolical Box'' - -- and presumably ''Last Time Travel'' and the additional sequels - -- also love puzzles? They can't use the same excuse this time!



* At least some, possibly all, of the people in Folsense were real, and ''none'' of them were fans of home maintenance? I can buy most people would never bother fixing up their homes if they magically stayed in good condition forever, but there should have at least been a ''few'' houses that were still in good shape once the illusion lifted, ones owned by people who realize that regularly maintaining their home is as much about keeping problems from cropping up as it is about fixing ones that appear. Or who just like doing handiwork so the illusion they see never bothers hiding things that go wrong on their own house!
** Maybe yes. But if the gas makes them see what they expect, someone expecting to always be fixing stuff - even stuff that isn't broken or in need of repair - is going to go around breaking stuff while 'fixing' things.

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* At least some, possibly all, of the people in Folsense were real, and ''none'' of them were fans of home maintenance? I can buy most people would never bother fixing up their homes if they magically stayed in good condition forever, but there should have at least been a ''few'' houses that were still in good shape once the illusion lifted, ones owned by people who realize that regularly maintaining their home is as much about keeping problems from cropping up as it is about fixing ones that appear. Or who just like doing handiwork handiwork, so the illusion they see never bothers hiding things that go wrong on their own house!
** Maybe yes. But if the gas makes them see what they expect, someone expecting to always be fixing stuff - -- even stuff that isn't broken or in need of repair - -- is going to go around breaking stuff while 'fixing' things.



** [[spoiler: Not only that, but it is hinted through the events of the game about the hallucinations before it's revealed. The street lying in ruins, with a broken water pipe and rubbish heap? There were no pictures of that street in the station, so Layton and Luke are seeing it as it really is. The same for the mines and, later, the forest.]]
** It is utterly impossible for an entire city to have the same hallucination to such a degree that they are able to function coherently. Differences must arise and these contradictions lead to the inability to work together properly. Especially when Layton shows up.
*** You're right. It would be impossible to prevent contradictions. First, there's a game devoted to that >_>. But second, what's to say that such things -didn't- happen and between the power of the gas and the power of the human mind, people simply rationalized it away or otherwise worked around the inconsistency. Or even made the inconsistency part of the hallucination.
* "Katia's mother died shortly after she was born, but Katia grew up strong and sweet, just the same," says Sophia in her letter to Anton. Does this bother anyone else? "Katia's mother" obviously refers to Anton and Sophia's daughter - the child for whom Sophia ''left Anton and all of Folsense'' to protect before she was even born - and she doesn't even bother to mention to her lover what she named their child? It seems like Sophia loved Katia more than she did her own daughter.

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** [[spoiler: Not [[spoiler:Not only that, but it is hinted through the events of the game about the hallucinations before it's revealed. The street lying in ruins, with a broken water pipe and rubbish heap? There were no pictures of that street in the station, so Layton and Luke are seeing it as it really is. The same for the mines and, later, the forest.]]
** It is utterly impossible for an entire city to have the same hallucination to such a degree that they are able to function coherently. Differences must arise arise, and these contradictions lead to the inability to work together properly. Especially when Layton shows up.
*** You're right. It would be impossible to prevent contradictions. First, there's a game devoted to that >_>. But second, what's to say that such things -didn't- happen ''didn't'' happen, and between the power of the gas and the power of the human mind, people simply rationalized it away or otherwise worked around the inconsistency. Or inconsistency, or even made the inconsistency part of the hallucination.
* "Katia's mother died shortly after she was born, but Katia grew up strong and sweet, just the same," says Sophia in her letter to Anton. Does this bother anyone else? "Katia's mother" obviously refers to Anton and Sophia's daughter - the child for whom Sophia ''left Anton and all of Folsense'' to protect before she was even born - -- and she doesn't even bother to mention to her lover what she named their child? It seems like Sophia loved Katia more than she did her own daughter.



* How did Chemley get away with his screwups on this case? He used department resources and came very close to making a false arrest for a murder that ''didn't happen''. What's more, he should have ''known'' it didn't happen before leaving London. You can't have a murder investigation without a murder. You can't have a murder without evidence that somebody died. And unless the body is missing parts, the only people who have the authority to declare a body to be dead are trained medical professionals, a category which police investigators and archeologists do not belong. Since Shraeder wasn't dead, and a competent doctor would have known this, the biggest crime that he had knowledge of was that somebody wrecked a curtain to leave the Shraeder's office without using the door, possibly in possession of an item which he had no solid proof of being there in the first place. Hardly serious enough to justify booking a trip on a luxury transport.
** Correct me if I'm wrong, but this game takes place in Victorian England, no? Was medicine back then so advanced that they knew Shraeder wasn't dead? As far as we know he banged the coffin lid as they were lowering it, after all doctors had proclaimed him deceased. Chelmey couldn't be blamed for that.
* They board the Molentary Express in London and then travel for days before reaching Folsense - England simply isn't that big. By the second day you'd be in Scotland, unless you were traveling around in circles.

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* How did Chemley get away with his screwups on this case? He used department resources and came very close to making a false arrest for a murder that ''didn't happen''. What's more, he should have ''known'' it didn't happen before leaving London. You can't have a murder investigation without a murder. You can't have a murder without evidence that somebody died. And unless the body is missing parts, the only people who have the authority to declare a body to be dead are trained medical professionals, a category which police investigators and archeologists do not belong. belong to. Since Shraeder wasn't dead, and a competent doctor would have known this, the biggest crime that he had knowledge of was that somebody wrecked a curtain to leave the Shraeder's office without using the door, possibly in possession of an item which he had no solid proof of being there in the first place. Hardly serious enough to justify booking a trip on a luxury transport.
** Correct me if I'm wrong, but this game takes place in Victorian England, no? Was medicine back then so advanced that they knew Shraeder wasn't dead? As far as we know know, he banged the coffin lid as they were lowering it, after all doctors had proclaimed him deceased. Chelmey couldn't be blamed for that.
*** The series takes place in a huge AnachronismStew, but the main era is the modern day. Therefore, we can assume that medical professionals ''would'' be able to tell that Schraeder wasn't dead, and thus Chelmey had no reason to be on the train,
* They board the Molentary Express in London and then travel for days before reaching Folsense - -- England simply isn't that big. By the second day you'd be in Scotland, unless you were traveling around in circles.



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* Why on earth does everyone in Future London in ''Unwound Future'' act like [[spoiler: it's really ten years later]]? Are they all actors? Did they all use the time machine to get there? When Chelmey evacuates them at the end of the game, are they all going straight to jail as accomplices?
** I figure they're actors hired to play the part of people living [[spoiler:10 years into the future]]. In fact, most people don't mention it's [[spoiler:the future(it makes no sense, after all) nor events in the past 10 years]], so maybe they don't even know it's supposed to be [[spoiler:10 years in the future]].
*** Oh, they know...remember [[spoiler:the sign announcing that the bus stopped running the route Luke and the Professor wanted to take...5 years in the future. And the newspapers, which would have to have the future date to keep the Professor and Luke in the dark if they picked one up.]]
** I reckon they're all other people who want [[spoiler: Dmitri and/or Clive to succeed]]. There are probably lots of people who'd like to see the whole TimeTravel thing work out - [[spoiler: the other relatives of people harmed in the blast for one, not to mention the entire Dove family and its friends who'd probably be happy to see someone alter time to prevent Constance from having to raise that poor, broken kid.]] Dmitri probably did a lot of covert snooping around before work on [[spoiler: Future London]] started and found as many people as he could who were decent actors, wanted him to succeed and were willing to lie to Layton to make it work.

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* Why on earth does everyone in Future London in ''Unwound Future'' act like [[spoiler: it's [[spoiler:it's really ten years later]]? Are they all actors? Did they all use the time machine to get there? When Chelmey evacuates them at the end of the game, are they all going straight to jail as accomplices?
** I figure they're actors hired to play the part of people living [[spoiler:10 years into the future]]. In fact, most people don't mention it's [[spoiler:the future(it future (it makes no sense, after all) nor events in the past 10 years]], so maybe they don't even know it's supposed to be [[spoiler:10 years in the future]].
*** Oh, they know... remember [[spoiler:the sign announcing that the bus stopped running the route Luke and the Professor wanted to take...take... 5 years in the future. And the newspapers, which would have to have the future date to keep the Professor and Luke in the dark if they picked one up.]]
** I reckon they're all other people who want [[spoiler: Dmitri [[spoiler:Dmitri and/or Clive to succeed]]. There are probably lots of people who'd like to see the whole TimeTravel thing work out - [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the other relatives of people harmed in the blast for one, not to mention the entire Dove family and its friends who'd probably be happy to see someone alter time to prevent Constance from having to raise that poor, broken kid.]] Dmitri probably did a lot of covert snooping around before work on [[spoiler: Future [[spoiler:Future London]] started and found as many people as he could who were decent actors, wanted him to succeed succeed, and were willing to lie to Layton to make it work.



** [[spoiler: There ARE in fact fires in the room, just not very big ones.]]
* Were we supposed to know [[spoiler: who Clive even was]] before the reveal? I don't recall [[spoiler:him]] ever being mentioned before that moment, but Layton [[spoiler:calls out his name as if everyone was supposed to recognize it.]]

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** [[spoiler: There [[spoiler:There ARE in fact fires in the room, just not very big ones.]]
* Were we supposed to know [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who Clive even was]] before the reveal? I don't recall [[spoiler:him]] ever being mentioned before that moment, but Layton [[spoiler:calls out his name as if everyone was supposed to recognize it.]]



** When Layton talks about the day of the explosion to Luke [[spoiler: the real one]], he says there was a boy who lost his parents, and on the picture we see Layton holding the boy. It's foreshadowed.
*** It may have been foreshadowed to the player, but Layton didn't know! At the end [[spoiler: when Clive is about to be arrested, he tells the Professor that he was indeed the boy in that scene; Layton replies "That... was you?"]]
*** I always assumed that because Layton did so much [[spoiler:covert, extensive research into the accident 10 years ago, he had been tracking some of the survivors of the incident]]. He probably knew about [[spoiler: Clive]] as a notable survivor, but not as the [[spoiler: boy he saved]] until it was revealed.

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** When Layton talks about the day of the explosion to Luke [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:(the real one]], one)]], he says there was a boy who lost his parents, and on the picture we see Layton holding the boy. It's foreshadowed.
*** It may have been foreshadowed to the player, but Layton didn't know! At the end [[spoiler: when end, [[spoiler:when Clive is about to be arrested, he tells the Professor that he was indeed the boy in that scene; Layton replies "That... was you?"]]
*** I always assumed that because Layton did so much [[spoiler:covert, extensive research into the accident 10 years ago, he had been tracking some of the survivors of the incident]]. He probably knew about [[spoiler: Clive]] [[spoiler:Clive]] as a notable survivor, but not as the [[spoiler: boy [[spoiler:boy he saved]] until it was revealed.



* How exactly did the [[spoiler: fake London located underground]] fool anyone? The [[spoiler: sky, the clouds, the sun were probably just painted on the cave walls and thus never changed at all all the time they were there.]] Also, how was it made that it is [[spoiler:bright]] there without it being obvious [[spoiler: light bulbs or the like?]] AND, how could the [[spoiler: room with the "time machine"]] be an [[spoiler: elevator]] when you can't see any [[spoiler: elevator shaft]] above the house when you are in future London?

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* How exactly did the [[spoiler: fake [[spoiler:fake London located underground]] fool anyone? The [[spoiler: sky, [[spoiler:sky, the clouds, and the sun were probably just painted on the cave walls walls, and thus never changed at all all the time they were there.]] Also, how was it made that it is [[spoiler:bright]] there without it being obvious [[spoiler: light [[spoiler:light bulbs or the like?]] AND, how could the [[spoiler: room [[spoiler:room with the "time machine"]] be an [[spoiler: elevator]] [[spoiler:elevator]] when you can't see any [[spoiler: elevator [[spoiler:elevator shaft]] above the house when you are in future London?



** Actually, [[spoiler: underground London has its own night/day cycle, as you can see in some places like the forest and the casino. And there is a disguised elevator shaft above the clock shop; you can clearly see it from the Midland Rd. (Fork) screen.]]
** FridgeBrilliance: The other side of the Thames is full of industrial buildings and scientific research centers. Layton even comments at one point on the haze of pollution they create. [[spoiler: Most of the time, therefore, you can't even ''see'' the sky from the ground of Future London - all you can see is a bright light behind the smog cloud, and you assume that's the sun. when the bright light is moved down and switched off, you assume it's now night.]]
* I find it hard to believe that [[spoiler: Clive]] could have had the money to build an [[spoiler: entire London-sized, fully operating city below Real-London. Unless half of the buildings were hollow or something. I mean, inheritance be damned, no one person would have that much money. On top of that the worker the Professor and Luke meet when they first enter Future London says something like "we've been building for a year" - how could you possibly build an entire city in a year? How long has Clive actually been working on this project, and wouldn't he have hundreds of accomplices all unhappy with the political corruption? Barely any are mentioned, aside from Dimitri.]]

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** Actually, [[spoiler: underground [[spoiler:underground London has its own night/day cycle, as you can see in some places like the forest and the casino. And there is a disguised elevator shaft above the clock shop; you can clearly see it from the Midland Rd. (Fork) screen.]]
** FridgeBrilliance: The other side of the Thames is full of industrial buildings and scientific research centers. Layton even comments at one point on the haze of pollution they create. [[spoiler: Most [[spoiler:Most of the time, therefore, you can't even ''see'' the sky from the ground of Future London - all you can see is a bright light behind the smog cloud, and you assume that's the sun. when When the bright light is moved down and switched off, you assume it's now night.]]
* I find it hard to believe that [[spoiler: Clive]] [[spoiler:Clive]] could have had the money to build an [[spoiler: entire [[spoiler:entire London-sized, fully operating city below Real-London. Unless half of the buildings were hollow or something. I mean, inheritance be damned, no one person would have that much money. On top of that that, the worker the Professor and Luke meet when they first enter Future London says something like "we've been building for a year" - -- how could you possibly build an entire city in a year? How long has Clive actually been working on this project, and wouldn't he have hundreds of accomplices all unhappy with the political corruption? Barely any are mentioned, aside from Dimitri.]]



* The citizens of Future London are all [[spoiler: scared stiff of Layton and his hat because he/it looks like the evil!Layton that's been heading the crime gangs. Assuming they're not somehow hired actors (exceptional actors at that, to convince Layton and co that they're really in the future), it's a bit of a Fridge Logic moment - Dimitri, or rather the "evil Layton," has been underground since the time machine accident where the Prime Minister was captured - a day, at the least, a week at the most. Yet all the citizens seem to believe he's been running things for years. Going on that logic, who's really the "evil Layton" - Clive himself? Don Paolo, in his Layton disguise?]]

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* The citizens of Future London are all [[spoiler: scared [[spoiler:scared stiff of Layton and his hat because he/it looks like the evil!Layton that's been heading the crime gangs. Assuming they're not somehow hired actors (exceptional actors at that, to convince Layton and co that they're really in the future), it's a bit of a Fridge Logic moment - -- Dimitri, or rather the "evil Layton," has been underground since the time machine accident where the Prime Minister was captured - -- a day, at the least, a week at the most. Yet all the citizens seem to believe he's been running things for years. Going on that logic, who's really the "evil Layton" - -- Clive himself? Don Paolo, in his Layton disguise?]]



* Since it turns out that [[spoiler: the time machine in Dr. Stahngun's exhibition was a hoax]], how did he [[spoiler: get himself and Bill Hawks underground]]? There couldn't have been [[spoiler: an elevator shaft under the fake time machine]], because the police would have found it.
** The explosion caused a messy enough distraction so he could simply have hidden Family members [[spoiler: grab Hawks and drag him to the clock shop.]]
* Flora's voice. In the US version she inexplicably speaks with an American accent while everyone else sounds at least passably British, which is very jarring. Not to mention her voice actress could do with a bit of brushing up on pacing and tone.

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* Since it turns out that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the time machine in Dr. Stahngun's exhibition was a hoax]], how did he [[spoiler: get [[spoiler:get himself and Bill Hawks underground]]? There couldn't have been [[spoiler: an [[spoiler:an elevator shaft under the fake time machine]], because the police would have found it.
** The explosion caused a messy enough distraction so he could simply have hidden Family members [[spoiler: grab [[spoiler:grab Hawks and drag him to the clock shop.]]
* Flora's voice. In the US version version, she inexplicably speaks with an American accent while everyone else sounds at least passably British, which is very jarring. Not to mention her voice actress could do with a bit of brushing up on pacing and tone.



** Her name - Reinhold - is of German origin. I figure the family was originally German and the Baron was taught English by an American nanny his family hired. He therefore would speak English with an American accent, and his kid would pick it up from him. Several years of living among British people would soften that accent perhaps, but it would still be noticeable.

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** Her name - -- Reinhold - -- is of German origin. I figure the family was originally German and the Baron was taught English by an American nanny his family hired. He therefore would speak English with an American accent, and his kid would pick it up from him. Several years of living among British people would soften that accent perhaps, but it would still be noticeable.



** Dimitri probably [[spoiler:accepted Clive as the leader so if Clive told him he wanted to work on a pet project that may or may not help Dimitri's goal of building a time machine, Dimitri probably wouldn't question it.]]

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** Dimitri probably [[spoiler:accepted Clive as the leader leader, so if Clive told him he wanted to work on a pet project that may or may not help Dimitri's goal of building a time machine, Dimitri probably wouldn't question it.]]



* The statue of the author and the boy. Did something seem off about that to anyone else? [[spoiler: Sure, Clive included it on the set of Future London as a subconscious tribute to Layton for keeping him from going insane by the loss of his parents (as a child, at least...). That's well and fine. But when Luke sees it for the first time on the way to Chinatown, it’s strange that he has been led to believe that the Future Layton is a crime boss and that the Future Luke is leading a rebellion against him… and it doesn’t seem to bother him too much. This would clearly be something that would upset Luke, having his imagination wander, visualizing what it must have been like for his future self and mentor to go their separate ways so dramatically. So why does Luke go off by himself, back to the statue, ''after'' discovering that Dimitri had been posing as the Future Layton? Why didn’t he run away while he still had the prospect of an evil Future Layton? Maybe all of his worries of his and the professor’s friendship had been building up since then, and even though he finds out the truth about Future Layton, and he just needed some time by himself to think. That could be the case, but I just think that they could have made that more clear.]]
** For me, I just figured [[spoiler:that it didn't even occur to Luke they wouldn't succeed, and Layton (knowing his future as being a horrible person) would change his attitude, ergo he didn't think of Layton in terms of the future one, but the presant one.]]

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* The statue of the author and the boy. Did something seem off about that to anyone else? [[spoiler: Sure, [[spoiler:Sure, Clive included it on the set of Future London as a subconscious tribute to Layton for keeping him from going insane by the loss of his parents (as a child, at least...). That's well and fine. But when Luke sees it for the first time on the way to Chinatown, it’s strange that he has been led to believe that the Future Layton is a crime boss and that the Future Luke is leading a rebellion against him… and it doesn’t seem to bother him too much. This would clearly be something that would upset Luke, having his imagination wander, visualizing what it must have been like for his future self and mentor to go their separate ways so dramatically. So why does Luke go off by himself, back to the statue, ''after'' discovering that Dimitri had been posing as the Future Layton? Why didn’t he run away while he still had the prospect of an evil Future Layton? Maybe all of his worries of his and the professor’s friendship had been building up since then, and even though he finds out the truth about Future Layton, and he just needed some time by himself to think. That could be the case, but I just think that they could have made that more clear.]]
** For me, I just figured [[spoiler:that it didn't even occur to Luke they wouldn't succeed, and Layton (knowing his future as being a horrible person) would change his attitude, ergo he didn't think of Layton in terms of the future one, but the presant present one.]]



* So [[spoiler:you ere rich,you want to make a political statement and you have the resolution to do anything...would the first thing that crosses your mind be an giant machine of random(and i mean random)destruction?with that much money,I alone can think 10.000 better plans,both statement wise and revenge wise...and half of them are better morality wise.And if he wanted specifically to destroy London,why not just use a giant bomb?(a nuclear one would be kind unfriendly)Clive's plan just bugs me.]]

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* So [[spoiler:you ere rich,you are rich, you want to make a political statement statement, and you have the resolution to do anything...anything... would the first thing that crosses your mind be an a giant machine of random(and i random (and I mean random)destruction?with random) destruction? With that much money,I money, I alone can think 10.000 of 10,000 better plans,both statement wise plans, both statement-wise and revenge wise...revenge-wise... and half of them are better morality wise.morality-wise. And if he wanted specifically to destroy London,why London, why not just use a giant bomb?(a bomb? (A nuclear one would be kind unfriendly)Clive's of unfriendly.) Clive's plan just bugs me.]]



** Are we talking about the [[spoiler:ruins which rise upon the music being played]], the people of Ambrosia or [[spoiler:Melina]]? We're given a sort of throwaway comment about how [[spoiler:the people of Ambrosia didn't last forever because they had eternal life, but rather because we remember them - their story is passed down to each generation]]. It's a bit kitschy but it's something. I'm more annoyed about the fact that, as a man of science, Layton [[spoiler:tells Luke that Melina could well have been a reincarnation of the Queen of Ambrosia]].
*** The kitschy explanation bugs me a lot, to be honest--the whole movie in general just feels like it's being written by a different writer from the games. The explanation feels tacked on, something they made up at the last minute. The whole [[spoiler:ruins rising up because of the music]] annoyed me a lot too, but as a friend of this troper said, [[spoiler:there were pipes all around Ambrosia and the different frequencies of the music could have been detected by the pipes as a password of some sort]]. But yeah, in general, the conclusion just really bugged me.

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** Are we talking about the [[spoiler:ruins which rise upon the music being played]], the people of Ambrosia Ambrosia, or [[spoiler:Melina]]? We're given a sort of throwaway comment about how [[spoiler:the people of Ambrosia didn't last forever because they had eternal life, but rather because we remember them - -- their story is passed down to each generation]]. It's a bit kitschy kitschy, but it's something. I'm more annoyed about the fact that, as a man of science, Layton [[spoiler:tells Luke that Melina could well have been a reincarnation of the Queen of Ambrosia]].
*** The kitschy explanation bugs me a lot, to be honest--the honest -- the whole movie in general just feels like it's being written by a different writer from the games. The explanation feels tacked on, something they made up at the last minute. The whole [[spoiler:ruins rising up because of the music]] annoyed me a lot too, but as a friend of this troper said, [[spoiler:there were pipes all around Ambrosia and the different frequencies of the music could have been detected by the pipes as a password of some sort]]. But yeah, in general, the conclusion just really bugged me.



*** If the rumour that Descole is really Lando is true, then he might be trying to one-up the guy he taught archeology seeing how super awesome and famous Layton's become. That would also explain why he was so furious about Layton being the one to raise Ambrosia instead of being all 'Oh hey, thanks for doing my work for me' about it. I'm guessing we'll get the answer when it's revealed who Descole really is.
* Was the reason why the Melina inside Jenis was different than the one implanted into Emily because Jenis accepted Melina's memories? Also, how could Melina choose to just "move on" at the end if "she", as in her memories, was just a bunch of electronic information? Does that mean her father actually did something like a soul upload and not just a memory upload? If that was the case, the ending would make sense because then it would be essentially her spirit leaving Jenis to leave for the afterlife. We were told, however, that Jenis was only implanted with Melina's memories and that she accepted it. Thus, Melina shouldn't have been able to disappear like that. Melina, in all likelihood, probably retreated to the furthest recesses of Jenis' mind so that she wouldn't bother Jenis anymore..
* In the beginning, when Layton is explaining the story of Ambrosia during the play, I got a little bothered. The villagers drink the immortality potion AFTER the queen is already dead. Why? They know she's dead and gone, if they want to meet her again, why not commit mass suicide and meet her in the afterlife? living forever won't bring their queen back.

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*** If the rumour that Descole is really Lando is true, then he might be trying to one-up the guy he taught archeology to, seeing how super awesome and famous Layton's become. That would also explain why he was so furious about Layton being the one to raise Ambrosia instead of being all 'Oh hey, thanks for doing my work for me' about it. I'm guessing we'll get the answer when it's revealed who Descole really is.
* Was the reason why the Melina inside Jenis was different than the one implanted into Emily because Jenis accepted Melina's memories? Also, how could Melina choose to just "move on" at the end if "she", as in her memories, was just a bunch of electronic information? Does that mean her father actually did something like a soul upload and not just a memory upload? If that was the case, the ending would make sense sense, because then it would be essentially her spirit leaving Jenis to leave for the afterlife. We were told, however, that Jenis was only implanted with Melina's memories and that she accepted it. Thus, Melina shouldn't have been able to disappear like that. Melina, in all likelihood, probably retreated to the furthest recesses of Jenis' mind so that she wouldn't bother Jenis anymore..
* In the beginning, when Layton is explaining the story of Ambrosia during the play, I got a little bothered. The villagers drink the immortality potion AFTER the queen is already dead. Why? They know she's dead and gone, if they want to meet her again, why not commit mass suicide and meet her in the afterlife? living Living forever won't bring their queen back.



* Why didn't Descole just [[spoiler: use Nina to sing "a song of the sea"? She knew the song, why waste so much money to find another candidate for Melina's memories?]]
** [[spoiler:Two reasons. 1) Nina's copy of Melina's memories was incomplete and unstable; she might not remember the entire song (or be able to remain Melina long enough to sing it). 2) For all Descole knew, the "song of the sea" was something that required the singer to have a trained/'adult' voice.]]

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* Why didn't Descole just [[spoiler: use [[spoiler:use Nina to sing "a song of the sea"? She knew the song, why waste so much money to find another candidate for Melina's memories?]]
** [[spoiler:Two reasons. 1) Nina's copy of Melina's memories was incomplete and unstable; she might not remember the entire song (or be able to remain as Melina long enough to sing it). 2) For all Descole knew, the "song of the sea" was something that required the singer to have a trained/'adult' voice.]]
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*So [[spoiler:you ere rich,you want to make a political statement and you have the resolution to do anything...would the first thing that crosses your mind be an giant machine of random(and i mean random)destruction?with that much money,I alone can think 10.000 better plans,both statement wise and revenge wise...and half of them are better morality wise.And if he wanted specifically to destroy London,why not just use a giant bomb?(a nuclear one would be kind unfriendly)Clive's plan just bugs me.]]
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**The molentary express is often called a cruise ship in rails.Cruise ships often sail more slowly that possible to let passengers enjoy the trip.Also,schizo tech means alternate reality.Alternate reality can possibly mean alternate geography.
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*What exactly does [[spoiler:Clive need Dimitri for in his grand plans? Sure, Dimitri would benefit from Clive's resources and supposed support, but what does Clive gain from it, apart from the chance to manipulate one of the men responsible for his parent's death?]]
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** It's also possible, though a bit of a stretch, that Bruno could figure out a way to rewire the robots if Flora really needs the money for whatever reason.





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\n** Maybe someone picked her up and carried her across? Though given how she belongs to Lady Dahlia and all, you'd think that anyone seeing her would take her back to the manor... But that's all I've got.




* How ''exactly'' is Flora related to the Professor? From what I gather, he ended up adopting her at the end of Curious Village, but when they unmask her on the Molentary Express in Diabolical Box, they act like they hadn't seen her since, which is really the only thing that makes sense since I kind of doubt the Professor'd just ride off to solve another mystery and leave the ''other'' orphan he's supposed to provide for behind without any explanation.

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* How ''exactly'' is Flora related to the Professor? From what I gather, he ended up adopting her at the end of Curious Village, but when they unmask her on the Molentary Express in Diabolical Box, they act like they hadn't seen her since, which is really the only thing that makes sense since I kind of doubt the Professor'd Professor would just ride off to solve another mystery and leave the ''other'' orphan he's supposed to provide for behind without any explanation.



*** Flora wasn't tied up, she was locked in a barn. They could have just had Beluga make a call to Dropstone about her. Granted, that's not ''seen'', but it could have happened offscreen.

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*** Flora wasn't tied up, she was locked in a barn. They could have just had Beluga make a call to Dropstone about her. Granted, that's not ''seen'', but it could have happened offscreen.off screen.
*** Still, even if they couldn't leave, you'd think he'd show at least ''a bit'' more concern, StiffUpperLip or no, given how there was no way to be certain where she was.



** As to why the professor goes to solve the mistery and is shocked to see Flora, I kind of ssumed he enroled her into a school or something and wasn't expecting her to skip it in order to follow him.

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** As to why the professor goes to solve the mistery mystery and is shocked to see Flora, I kind of ssumed assumed he enroled enrolled her into a school or something and wasn't expecting her to skip it in order to follow him.



** Well, IIRC, the family portrait in the museum only showed Beluga, Anton, and their dad, right? Since their mom isn't included, it's possible that they have a sister who wasn't included as well who could be Sammy's mother. Though this is WildMassGuessing on my part and probably has some UnfortunateImplications in it.



*** Yeah, given how the letter is in the bottom part of the box, I kind of assumed that she figured that out too.



* Does it bother anyone else how Don Paulo could fit in a Flora-sized suit? Or the fact that he was jumping up and down on couch cushions while IN that suit?

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* Does it bother anyone else how Don Paulo Paolo could fit in a Flora-sized suit? Or the fact that he was jumping up and down on couch cushions while IN that suit?



** Thinking back on it, maybe Sophia thought it would be simply too painful for Anton to know what his descesed daughter's name was and what she was like. She asked Katia to go to Folsense to make sure Anton understood her true reasons for leaving, so she might have felt better with talking about Katia in the letter instead of the young lady's mother since it was her hope that Anton would be able to meet Katia.

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** Thinking back on it, maybe Sophia thought it would be simply too painful for Anton to know what his descesed deceased daughter's name was and what she was like. She asked Katia to go to Folsense to make sure Anton understood her true reasons for leaving, so she might have felt better with talking about Katia in the letter instead of the young lady's mother since it was her hope that Anton would be able to meet Katia.



* The ending scene with Layton and Luke riding the Molentary Express away from Folense... ''without'' Anton and Katia. They're standing on a hill outside of Folsense's train station, happily waving goodbye. Then in the credits, we see Katia being reunited with some citizens of Dropstone, with Anton nearby. That's all well and fine, but, as seen from the background, they're ''still'' in Folsense. Why would all of the main characters of Dropstone ride the train all the way to Folsense just to be meet up with Anton and Katia? It would have made much more sense for Layton and Luke to take Anton and Katia back with them to Folsense, drop them off there, pick up Flora, and head back to London. Why would the professor and Luke not take the two back to Dropstone, where Katia's family is and where there is actually life and no hallucinogenic gas? It seems like staying in Non-Illusion Folsense would have been dangerous for Anton and Katia, what with the risks of living in any of the remaining dilapidated buildings, so what reason would that have to stay?
** Let me ask you this; you live in a rural town, where you're so bored out of your mind you must make puzzles and trade them with random train passengers eveyday to keep your sanity. Suddenly, two guys come back from this mythical place and tell this outlandish tale about how [[spoiler:people lived in these ruins believing they were young due to some hallucinogenic gas from undergound.]] Would ''you'' not drop everything that weekend and check that place out?

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* The ending scene with Layton and Luke riding the Molentary Express away from Folense...Folsense... ''without'' Anton and Katia. They're standing on a hill outside of Folsense's train station, happily waving goodbye. Then in the credits, we see Katia being reunited with some citizens of Dropstone, with Anton nearby. That's all well and fine, but, as seen from the background, they're ''still'' in Folsense. Why would all of the main characters of Dropstone ride the train all the way to Folsense just to be meet up with Anton and Katia? It would have made much more sense for Layton and Luke to take Anton and Katia back with them to Folsense, drop them off there, pick up Flora, and head back to London. Why would the professor and Luke not take the two back to Dropstone, where Katia's family is and where there is actually life and no hallucinogenic gas? It seems like staying in Non-Illusion Folsense would have been dangerous for Anton and Katia, what with the risks of living in any of the remaining dilapidated buildings, so what reason would that have to stay?
** Let me ask you this; you live in a rural town, where you're so bored out of your mind you must make puzzles and trade them with random train passengers eveyday everyday to keep your sanity. Suddenly, two guys come back from this mythical place and tell this outlandish tale about how [[spoiler:people lived in these ruins believing they were young due to some hallucinogenic gas from undergound.underground.]] Would ''you'' not drop everything that weekend and check that place out?



** Correct me if I'm wrong, but this game takes place in victorian England, no? Was medicine back then so advanced that they knew Shraeder wasn't dead? As far as we know he banged the coffin lid as they were lowering it, after all doctors had proclaimed him deceased. Chelmey couldn't be blamed for that.
* They board the Molentary Express in London and then travel for days before reaching Folsense - England simply isn't that big. By the second day you'd be in Scotland, unless you were travelling around in circles.
** Well, the place they were going to was supposedly hidden, no? Woul make sense if the train traveled on circles to an extent. Or perhaps it's just a really, really crappy train.

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** Correct me if I'm wrong, but this game takes place in victorian Victorian England, no? Was medicine back then so advanced that they knew Shraeder wasn't dead? As far as we know he banged the coffin lid as they were lowering it, after all doctors had proclaimed him deceased. Chelmey couldn't be blamed for that.
* They board the Molentary Express in London and then travel for days before reaching Folsense - England simply isn't that big. By the second day you'd be in Scotland, unless you were travelling traveling around in circles.
** Well, the place they were going to was supposedly hidden, no? Woul Would make sense if the train traveled on circles to an extent. Or perhaps it's just a really, really crappy train.



* Why on earth does everyone in Future London in ''Unwound Future'' act like [[spoiler: it's really ten years later]]? Are they all actors? Did they all use the time machine to get there? When Chelmley evacuates them at the end of the game, are they all going straight to gaol as accomplices?

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* Why on earth does everyone in Future London in ''Unwound Future'' act like [[spoiler: it's really ten years later]]? Are they all actors? Did they all use the time machine to get there? When Chelmley Chelmey evacuates them at the end of the game, are they all going straight to gaol jail as accomplices?



** It's also possible that some of the citizens, not just the scientists, were kidnapped.



**** That's a possiblity, and the scene mainly serves to show that [[spoiler:there were more victims to the failed experiment besides Claire]]. I personally suspected that [[spoiler:Future Luke was hiding something around the time it was revealed that "Future Layton" was fake.]]

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**** That's a possiblity, possibility, and the scene mainly serves to show that [[spoiler:there were more victims to the failed experiment besides Claire]]. I personally suspected that [[spoiler:Future Luke was hiding something around the time it was revealed that "Future Layton" was fake.]]



** FridgeBrilliance: The other side of the Thames is full of industrial buildings and scientific research centres. Layton even comments at one point on the haze of pollution they create. [[spoiler: Most of the time, therefore, you can't even ''see'' the sky from the ground of Future London - all you can see is a bright light behind the smog cloud, and you assume that's the sun. when the bright light is moved down and switched off, you assume it's now night.]]

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** FridgeBrilliance: The other side of the Thames is full of industrial buildings and scientific research centres.centers. Layton even comments at one point on the haze of pollution they create. [[spoiler: Most of the time, therefore, you can't even ''see'' the sky from the ground of Future London - all you can see is a bright light behind the smog cloud, and you assume that's the sun. when the bright light is moved down and switched off, you assume it's now night.]]


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** Given how [[spoiler:the prime minister was the ''last'' guy they kidnapped, Dimitri had to have been going back and forth for at least a few weeks before then]]. That, and how it's implied that [[spoiler:he and Clive had to have been working on the underground city for a few years, he's probably been down there pretty often]].
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** Of course! He's [[TeamFortress2 a Spy]]! This explains... well, just that, really.

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** Of course! He's [[TeamFortress2 [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 a Spy]]! This explains... well, just that, really.
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** Let me ask you this; you live in a rural town, where you're so bored out of your mind you must make puzzles and trade them with random train passengers eveyday to keep your sanity. Suddenly, two guys come back from this mythical place and tell this outlandish tale about how people lived in these ruins believing they were young due to some hallucinogenic gas from undergound. Would ''you'' not drop everything that weekend and check that place out?

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** Let me ask you this; you live in a rural town, where you're so bored out of your mind you must make puzzles and trade them with random train passengers eveyday to keep your sanity. Suddenly, two guys come back from this mythical place and tell this outlandish tale about how people [[spoiler:people lived in these ruins believing they were young due to some hallucinogenic gas from undergound. undergound.]] Would ''you'' not drop everything that weekend and check that place out?




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** Well, the place they were going to was supposedly hidden, no? Woul make sense if the train traveled on circles to an extent. Or perhaps it's just a really, really crappy train.
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** Correct me if I'm wrong, but this game takes place in victorian England, no? Was medicine back then so advanced that they knew Shraeder wasn't dead? As far as we know he banged the coffin lid as they were lowering it, after all doctors had proclaimed him deceased. Chelmey couldn't be blamed for that.
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** Let me ask you this; you live in a rural town, where you're so bored out of your mind you must make puzzles and trade them with random train passengers eveyday to keep your sanity. Suddenly, two guys come back from this mythical place and tell this outlandish tale about how people lived in these ruins believing they were young due to some hallucinogenic gas from undergound. Would ''you'' not drop everything that weekend and check that place out?
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** My guess is that, since the "curse" only killed because the gas made people halucinate they were dying, and they only halucinate they were dying because they opened the box thinking about the curse, that she didn't know about any supposed curse. She probably got real high for a while, though.
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*** Truly a puzzle worthy of Layton.
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**As to why the professor goes to solve the mistery and is shocked to see Flora, I kind of ssumed he enroled her into a school or something and wasn't expecting her to skip it in order to follow him.
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** Intelligence doesn't mean wisdom.

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* Wait, so Sofia did get ahold of the Elysian box at some point, and had it long enough to take out Anton's letter, read it, and replace it with one of her own. How come ''she'' didn't hallucinate and freak out like everyone else?

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** According to some of Beluga's dialogue in ''Professor Layton's London Life'', Sammy is his biological nephew. Whether or not events in that game are meant to be taken as canon is up for debate, but nevertheless, the mystery of their relationship endures.
* Wait, so Sofia did get ahold a hold of the Elysian box at some point, and had it long enough to take out Anton's letter, read it, and replace it with one of her own. How come ''she'' didn't hallucinate and freak out like everyone else?
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\n* When Claudia escapes at the start of Chapter 2, how on EARTH does she get across the river right outside the Manor? That really makes little sense.

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* Inspector Chelmey gives Layton a puzzle at least once [[spoiler:but the "Chelmey" here is really Don Paolo]].

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* They board the Molentary Express in London and then travel for days before reaching Folsense - England simply isn't that big. By the second day you'd be in Scotland, unless you were travelling around in circles.
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* The apple tatoo. I accept the fact that it would only mark Flora as the true golden apple when she smiled, but the fact that this isn't explained bugs me. Is the Baron a wizard?

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* The apple tatoo.tattoo. I accept the fact that it would only mark Flora as the true golden apple when she smiled, but the fact that this isn't explained bugs me. Is the Baron a wizard?
** It's not a tattoo, it's a birthmark. The fact that it's in the shape of an apple is probably what prompted her father to dub her the Golden Apple. Now, why it only appears when she's happy is another matter altogether...
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**For me, I just figured [[spoiler:that it didn't even occur to Luke they wouldn't succeed, and Layton (knowing his future as being a horrible person) would change his attitude, ergo he didn't think of Layton in terms of the future one, but the presant one.]]

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