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* At the end of the Japanese version, Mima speaks in Rumi's voice and you can tell she's really Rumi by looking at her hair. This brings up so many questions. Why would they release Rumi if she's still crazy? Was the Rumi she saw in the mental ward actually Mima and she's hallucinating that Mima is her? Has Mima gone crazy too?

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* At the end of the Japanese version, Mima speaks in Rumi's voice and you can tell she's really Rumi by looking at the back of her hair.head. This brings up so many questions. Why would they release Rumi if she's still crazy? Was the Rumi she saw in the mental ward actually Mima and she's hallucinating that Mima is her? Has Mima gone crazy too?
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* At the end of the Japanese version, Mima speaks in Rumi's voice and you can tell she's really Rumi by looking at her hair. This brings up so many questions. Why would they release Rumi if she's still crazy? Was the Rumi she saw in the mental ward actually Mima and she's hallucinating that Mima is her? Has Mima gone crazy too?
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** Any explanation of the bag of bloody clothes needs to account for the fact that, immediately afterward, we learn that Mima's apartment door is chained on the inside, and she's the only one in there.
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*** r he just imagined everyone else cheering in reaction to his delusion.

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*** r Or he just imagined everyone else cheering in reaction to his delusion.
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*** r he just imagined everyone else cheering in reaction to his delusion.
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** I suspect this was deliberately left ambiguous so that ''any'' of these explanations might fit and Rumi or Mima [[MindScrew or both]] might have committed the murder. This particular murder also helps set up a final ambiguity in the last scene, which looks like it's a HappyEnding... [[TheEndOrIsIt but might not be]]: if Mima really is the murderer, then that's something like a PsychoticSmirk we're seeing at the end.
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**Remember how Rumi was driven to tears when she witnessed the rape scene? Everything before that point she was wildly opposed to the idea of Mima acting and being in sleazy scenes. After that however she is no longer opposed to the acting career or even the nude photo shoot. She even seems rather supportive of it. So I think the fact that she seemed so calm and normal after that point is because witnessing the graphic rape scene broke her mind.
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* How was it Rumi was acting so normal up until the end if she was that delusional?
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*** That scene was a bit unnerving for me. When Mima was crying, I wondered if it was going to go wrong. I suppose in a way it did.
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** Or [[WildMassGuessing anyone who prefers pop-idol Mima]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel sees the delusion, too...]]

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** Or [[WildMassGuessing anyone who prefers pop-idol Mima]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel sees the delusion, too...]]
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*** the only reason i agree with this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death-we just see the results, and infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet- ike evidence she had to hide. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.

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*** the only reason i agree with this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death-we just see the results, and infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet- ike like evidence she had to hide. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.
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*** the only reason i agree with this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death-we just see the results, and infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.

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*** the only reason i agree with this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death-we just see the results, and infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet.closet- ike evidence she had to hide. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.
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*** the only reason i think this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death-we just see the results, and infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.

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*** the only reason i think agree with this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death-we just see the results, and infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.
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*** the only reason i think this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death- and we know these are the ones done by Rumi.

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*** the only reason i think this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death- death-we just see the results, and we know these are infer that Rumi was responsible for them one way or another. Even when Mima asks the ones done crazy fan- "you killed them?"- me-mania might have responded because he killed the screen writer and the obnoxious guys at the concert-(remeber there was that newspaper clipping of the guy in intensive care unit in the elevator that mima saw) instead of the photographer. I can't accept that the shopping bag and clothing were just imagined by Rumi.mima- since Mima never actually touches her delusions: and she picked up that shopping bag- and shoved it back into the closet. The only time she did interact physically with her delusions was when she was fighting Rumi dressed as pop idol-mima.
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*** the only reason i think this is because of the shopping bag and clothing themselves- Mima says before " so i was in harajuka today"- and there's a picture of her holding a shopping bag on the mima's room blog- the exact same one that's in her closet filled with the bloody clothing. If the mima-killing photographer scene was a dream- was it just a coincidence that the bloody clothing are the same as the uniform she wore in the dream? or were they the same because she subconciously remembered buying them- that those were the clothing she bought to dress up as the pizza delivery person? Rumi couldn't have planted this one- since how could she know Mima would dream it- the exact same uniform of murder? the photographer is also the only one mima ( in any incarnation) we've seen killing in detail. we don't see how the screen writer, the crazy fan or the other manager are stabbed to death- and we know these are the ones done by Rumi.
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*** I don't get the OP question. That scene is obviously staged and there is nothing in the movie that implies it's not. Why would be a real rape? Mima is not filming a snuff film or a porno.
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** I don't think there was any actual rape. As I understand cinematography, there is a "no penetration" rule in non-porn films, and usually for a scene like that the actors will just be humping the air within a few inches of each other while the camera focuses on adjacent areas (exposed male buttocks are the most common thing, like the sex scenes in {{Main/Torchwood}}). So they were just acting the hell out of it and not actually bumping uglies. Also, at that point the story's being told from [[UnreliableNarrator Mima's POV]], so its legitimacy may already be in doubt.

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** I don't think there was any actual rape. As I understand cinematography, there is a "no penetration" rule in non-porn films, and usually for a scene like that the actors will just be humping the air within a few inches of each other while the camera focuses on adjacent areas (exposed male buttocks are the most common thing, like the sex scenes in {{Main/Torchwood}}).''Series/{{Torchwood}}''). So they were just acting the hell out of it and not actually bumping uglies. Also, at that point the story's being told from [[UnreliableNarrator Mima's POV]], so its legitimacy may already be in doubt.
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*** You can see the crowd's heads blocking everything that isn't from the waist up in wider shots, so it's obviously faked. Also, why on earth would you assume it ''isn't'' fake?
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** This troper actually tends to assume that the scene we see of "Mima" murdering the photographer is at least partly or fully made up of scenes from Mima's TV drama. We know that the plotline and murders in the show are mirrors of the real life plot and murders, so it seems likely that Mima (and by extension the audience) are being confused into seeing the line blur between her role in the drama as the murderer and these real life murders that are taking place at the same time.
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** I had always assumed it was Rumi who was doing the murdering, based on choice of weapon. The murders were carried out with an ice pick, yet when Me-Mania attacks Mima he uses a knife. I interpreted Rumi bringing out the ice pick against Mima as a subtle sign that she was the murderer.
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*** Or maybe Mina just imagined the bloody clothes?
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** Perfect Blue is the colour of illusions.

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** Perfect Blue is both the colour of illusions.illusions and of a "clear sky."
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** Perfect Blue is the colour of illusions.
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** Or [[WildMassGuessing anyone who prefers pop-idol Mima]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel sees the delusion, too...]]
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*** Given the climactic sequence with both Rumi and Mima hallucinating that Rumi ''is'' Mima, I figured that that was actually Rumi-thinking-she's-Mima killing the photographer. She did one actual killing, and talked Me-Mania into doing the rest.


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*** Yeah, the first time we see the rape scene it's made clear to us that it is fake -- you see Mima's fellow actors in the scene apologizing to her. It isn't until later that the lines become blurred, to the point where there ''is'' an actual attempted rape on that exact same set.
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** Yeah, I'm pretty sure that clip was supposed to show how she had already acted in another soap opera or whatever. It was basically to just to show she had had experience. Thus, it wouldn't make her transition into acting too much out of the blue.
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*** I believe that it was Me-Mania on Rumi's request, simply because the murder take place around the time Rumi starts visting Mima. It'd be really easy for her to put those clothes in the bag and her visits didn't really serve any purpose.
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** I don't think there was any actual rape. As I understand cinematography, there is a "no penetration" rule in non-porn films, and usually for a scene like that the actors will just be humping the air within a few inches of each other while the camera focuses on adjacent areas (exposed male buttocks are the most common thing, like the sex scenes in {{Main/Torchwood}}). So they were just acting the hell out of it and not actually bumping uglies.

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** I don't think there was any actual rape. As I understand cinematography, there is a "no penetration" rule in non-porn films, and usually for a scene like that the actors will just be humping the air within a few inches of each other while the camera focuses on adjacent areas (exposed male buttocks are the most common thing, like the sex scenes in {{Main/Torchwood}}). So they were just acting the hell out of it and not actually bumping uglies. Also, at that point the story's being told from [[UnreliableNarrator Mima's POV]], so its legitimacy may already be in doubt.
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** I don't think there was any actual rape. As I understand cinematography, there is a "no penetration" rule in non-porn films, and usually for a scene like that the actors will just be humping the air within a few inches of each other while the camera focuses on adjacent areas (exposed male buttocks are the most common thing, like the sex scenes in {{Main/Torchwood}}). So they were just acting the hell out of it and not actually bumping uglies.
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* I know it was mostly for [[RapeAsDrama drama]], but I'm having trouble stomaching the setup of Mima's strip club scene. Did they ''actually' have to make the guy have sex with her for the scene? It couldn't be faked somehow- camera cuts, stunt doubles, no penetration, anything? Is this always done when filming such scenes? I could buy that the produces were sleazes, but if this is really a practice in acting, I'm gonna need so much BrainBleach.

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