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** Also, OTGAP takes place in an AlternateContinuity to Baum's novels and the 1939 film. It's entirely possible that the Witch of the West's death, should we ever see it, will be played more tragically in this universe than it was in the others.
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** Maybe the Emerald City Underground already knew, but were unable until then to convince enough people (or unwilling to risk saying so until their hands were forced). Alternatively, seeing Evanora commanding an army of evil flying monkeys was probably a bit of a giveaway.
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*** No, only Glinda is the king's daughter in this movie. Evanora was his advisor and Theodora is Evanora's sister.

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*** What sisters? Theodora and Evanora aren't related to her.

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*** What sisters? Theodora and Evanora aren't related to her.her sisters.
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*** What sisters? Theodora and Evanora aren't related to her.
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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing of her own free will that would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?

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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing of her own free will that would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster pure evil (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?
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** Kind of gross but on a related note -- if crying is enough to hurt Theodora... [[FridgeHorror how does she go to the bathroom?]]
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** Not in the book. In the book, the Good Witch of the North is a separate character, an elderly woman who greets Dorothy upon landing and directs her to the Emerald City. In the 1939 movie she was merged with Glinda. OTGAP changes Glinda to her book title, the Good Witch of the ''South''.

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** *** Not in the book. In the book, the Good Witch of the North is a separate character, an elderly woman who greets Dorothy upon landing and directs her to the Emerald City. In the 1939 movie she was merged with Glinda. OTGAP changes Glinda to her book title, the Good Witch of the ''South''.
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** Not in the book. In the book, the Good Witch of the North is a separate character, an elderly woman who greets Dorothy upon landing and directs her to the Emerald City. In the 1939 movie she was merged with Glinda. OTGAP changes Glinda to her book title, the Good Witch of the ''South''.
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** Wait, Glinda ''wasn't'' the good Witch of the North? (I just assumed she changed turf for whatever reason between films)
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** Each time Oz was trying to sweep a girl off her feet, he gave her that music box (he evidently had more than one). Evidently he gave one to the strongman's sweetheart.
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** There comes a time in every porcelain boy or girls life when their parents sit them down and tell them about the facts of the kiln...
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** Maybe the witches could control the poppies properties! They activated it ''because'' the invasion was coming over it, and then the effect was still lingering when the monkeys invaded. After all, the poppies are still there 30 years later, and get activated for Dorothy.
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*** Lungs that transfer oxygen to the blood, that is. I'll wager hers were just used for talking.
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** But not ''that'' much less experience with magic shows. It does stretch WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief a little there, but it's DramaBall and {{Foreshadowing}}.

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** But not ''that'' much less experience with magic shows. It does stretch WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief a little there, but it's DramaBall RuleOfDrama and {{Foreshadowing}}.{{Foreshadowing}} of fixing the porcelain girl's legs.
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** But not ''that'' much less experience with magic shows. It does stretch WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief a little there, but it's DramaBall and {{Foreshadowing}}.
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** [[DoomedByCanon Considering what happens in Dorothy's time]] a redemption seems out of the question. We can hope that either she regains her free will and is given a reason to choose evil anyways or that [[FanWank her good part is extracted form her and, since this film identifies the Witches as the King's daughters, possibly reborn as Princess Ozma thus explaining how she could have be born while the Wizard is in Oz when her father, the King, died before Oscar arrived in this film.]]

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** [[DoomedByCanon Considering what happens in Dorothy's time]] a redemption seems out of the question. We can hope that either she regains her free will and is given a reason to choose evil anyways or that [[FanWank her good part is extracted form her and, since this film identifies the Witches as the King's daughters, possibly reborn as Princess Ozma thus explaining how she could have be born while the Wizard is in Oz when her father, the King, died before Oscar arrived in this film.]]]]
* Who was the big guy chasing Oz when he got on the balloon that eventually took him to the Emerald City?
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** Good question. Back then, people had less experience with magic shows.
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** Also didn't she just realize this AFTER she had already eaten the evil brainwashing-apple?



** OTGAP is getting a sequel set between it and Dorothy's time. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Theodora yet. She may be redeemed yet... or she may completely cross the MoralEventHorizon, leaving the Wizard with no other choice.

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** OTGAP is getting a sequel set between it and Dorothy's time. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Theodora yet. She may be redeemed yet... or she may completely cross the MoralEventHorizon, leaving the Wizard with no other choice.choice.
** [[DoomedByCanon Considering what happens in Dorothy's time]] a redemption seems out of the question. We can hope that either she regains her free will and is given a reason to choose evil anyways or that [[FanWank her good part is extracted form her and, since this film identifies the Witches as the King's daughters, possibly reborn as Princess Ozma thus explaining how she could have be born while the Wizard is in Oz when her father, the King, died before Oscar arrived in this film.]]
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* Why do the people people at the carnival expect Oz to make the wheelchair-bound walk just because he performed some magic tricks? Cutting the wires and the like are standard elements of a magic show. I've been to magic shows and I have no idea how they do some of those tricks, but I don't expect them to make a scar on my wrist disappear.

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* Why do the people people at the carnival expect Oz to make the wheelchair-bound walk just because he performed some magic tricks? Cutting the wires and the like are standard elements of a magic show. I've been to magic shows and I have no idea how they do some of those tricks, but I don't expect them to make a scar on my wrist disappear.
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* Why do the people people at the carnival expect Oz to make people walk just because he performed some magic tricks? Cutting the wires and the like are standard elements of a magic show. I've been to magic shows and I have no idea how they do some of those tricks, but I don't expect them to make a scar on my wrist disappear.

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* Why do the people people at the carnival expect Oz to make people the wheelchair-bound walk just because he performed some magic tricks? Cutting the wires and the like are standard elements of a magic show. I've been to magic shows and I have no idea how they do some of those tricks, but I don't expect them to make a scar on my wrist disappear.
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* Why do the people people at the carnival expect Oz to make people walk just because he performed some magic tricks? Cutting the wires and the like are standard elements of a magic show. I've been to magic shows and I have no idea how they do some of those tricks, but I don't expect them to make a scar on my wrist disappear.
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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing of her own free will that would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?

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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing of her own free will that would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?much?
** OTGAP is getting a sequel set between it and Dorothy's time. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Theodora yet. She may be redeemed yet... or she may completely cross the MoralEventHorizon, leaving the Wizard with no other choice.
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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing to justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?

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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing to of her own free will that would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?
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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing to justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. ValuesDissonance much?

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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing to justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?
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** After rewatching her transformation scene, I'm not sure Theodora ever realized Evanora had lied about her relationship with Oz. She does say "You're the wicked one... Not Glinda!" but that could just be her realizing Evanora was the one who killed the King. Since she seems to hold Oz solely responsible for her broken heart it's possible she still believes Evanora was just another "victim" of his womanizing.

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** After rewatching her transformation scene, I'm not sure Theodora ever realized Evanora had lied about her relationship with Oz. She does say "You're the wicked one... Not Glinda!" but that could just be her realizing Evanora was the one who killed the King. Since she seems to hold Oz solely responsible for her broken heart it's possible she still believes Evanora was just another "victim" of his womanizing.womanizing.
* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is basically screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing to justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as a borderline CompleteMonster (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. ValuesDissonance much?
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* Why is wicked-Theodora OK with being on Evanora's side after realizing she's tricked her? A normal person would be upset and betrayed, but shouldn't an especially Wicked one want revenge or something? She seems angry at first, then kind of lets it go and stays with Evanora.

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* Why is wicked-Theodora OK with being on Evanora's side after realizing she's tricked her? A normal person would be upset and betrayed, but shouldn't an especially Wicked one want revenge or something? She seems angry at first, then kind of lets it go and stays with Evanora.Evanora.
** After rewatching her transformation scene, I'm not sure Theodora ever realized Evanora had lied about her relationship with Oz. She does say "You're the wicked one... Not Glinda!" but that could just be her realizing Evanora was the one who killed the King. Since she seems to hold Oz solely responsible for her broken heart it's possible she still believes Evanora was just another "victim" of his womanizing.
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** In the moment she bites the fruit Theodora realizes that her sister has trick her, I think that the only reason she didn't notice before was because she was to upset because of her broken heart and with a cold head she would have notice the trick before.

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** In the moment she bites the fruit Theodora realizes that her sister has trick her, I think that the only reason she didn't notice before was because she was to upset because of her broken heart and with a cold head she would have notice the trick before.before.
* Why is wicked-Theodora OK with being on Evanora's side after realizing she's tricked her? A normal person would be upset and betrayed, but shouldn't an especially Wicked one want revenge or something? She seems angry at first, then kind of lets it go and stays with Evanora.
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** Given the reactions of the crowd in the scene where Evanora and Theodora are torturing Glinda (they shout things like "We know the truth!") it's possible Evanora's murder of the King is an OpenSecret that the general populace is aware of but keeps quiet about due to fear of Evanora's magic. Theodora herself was oblivious to it due to her naivety and Evanora's sheltering, but the people of Oz believe her to have been complicit in the plot and so are afraid of her as well.
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***Not really. Witches in those three roles are quite powerful even without the magic. It's the Celebrity Paradox: Loved by all and lonely at the top.

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