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** Any experienced stage performer will by necessity have developed improvisation skills to use when something doesn't go according to script. Since all the other parts of Oscar's "show" were already in place regardless of what happened to the balloon, he could simply forge ahead with his plan and make something up on the spot. Granted it wouldn't have the quite the same effect he had originally planned for, but his fireworks and giant floating head illusion would still be enough to wow the crowd for his intended purpose.
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** Possibly instead of a witch, the murdered former king served this role. He seems to have at least had the power to foretell the future and likely had other magical abilities in order to maintain power over the witches for as long as he did.
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* What was Oscar's plan if Theodora DIDN'T go after the balloon? Like suppose she decided him going down in Oz history as a coward who abandoned the people who believed in him was punishment enough, and the balloon just...floated away. Can't rise from the dead if people literally just saw "you" leave them behind.

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** There comes a time in every porcelain boy or girls life when their parents sit them down and tell them about the facts of the kiln...

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** There comes a time in every porcelain boy or girls life when their parents sit them down and tell them about the facts of the kiln...



* If we assume that this story follow's the film's continuity with regard to the Ruby slippers, the likeliest answer is that she got in touch with Theodora (who is red-themed and wears a ruby ring to cast magic) and had her create the shoes as a new conduit for her power to work through. Explains why Theo's so eager to recover them in the book and the 1939 film.

* Didn't Dorothy meet Oz before the tornado hit her? Wouldn't that mean Oz would have to have left the Emerald City and returned to Kansas in between the end of this film and the start of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz''?
** I don't remember anything like that mentioned either in the books or in the 1939 film. Where is this from?
** The black-and-white AndYouWereThere segments from the first movie had Oz's actor meet Dorothy. I wouldn't take those seriously, unless you're also claiming that the Cowardly Lion was originally a human from Kansas, along with a bunch of other unlikely bits of travel.

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* ** If we assume that this story follow's the film's continuity with regard to the Ruby slippers, the likeliest answer is that she got in touch with Theodora (who is red-themed and wears a ruby ring to cast magic) and had her create the shoes as a new conduit for her power to work through. Explains why Theo's so eager to recover them in the book and the 1939 film.

* Didn't Dorothy meet Oz before the tornado hit her? Wouldn't that mean Oz would have to have left the Emerald City and returned to Kansas in between the end of this film and the start of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz''?
** I don't remember anything like that mentioned either in the books or in the 1939 film. Where is this from?
** The black-and-white AndYouWereThere segments from the first movie had Oz's actor meet Dorothy. I wouldn't take those seriously, unless you're also claiming that the Cowardly Lion was originally a human from Kansas, along with a bunch of other unlikely bits of travel.
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* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing of her own free will that would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has had the capacity for the feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as pure evil (even though she is apparently throughout that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?
** OTGAP is getting a sequel set between it and Dorothy's time. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Theodora yet. She may be redeemed yet... or she may completely cross the MoralEventHorizon, leaving the Wizard with no other choice.
** [[DoomedByCanon Considering what happens in Dorothy's time]] a redemption seems out of the question. We can hope that either she regains her free will and is given a reason to choose evil anyways or that [[FanWank her good part is extracted form her and, since this film identifies the Witches as the King's daughters, possibly reborn as Princess Ozma thus explaining how she could have be born while the Wizard is in Oz when her father, the King, died before Oscar arrived in this film.]]
*** No, only Glinda is the king's daughter in this movie. Evanora was his advisor and Theodora is Evanora's sister.
** Also, OTGAP takes place in an AlternateContinuity to Baum's novels and the 1939 film. It's entirely possible that the Witch of the West's death, should we ever see it, will be played more tragically in this universe than it was in the others.
** Even in Baum's original novel (where the Wicked Witch isn't overly evil and conniving like she is in the 1939 movie), Dorothy notes that the Wizard's voice trembles slightly as he verifies with them that Theo really is dead. It wouldn't take much to tie that into the interpretation that he viewed her death as a tragic, but ultimately necessary act to ensure the safety of the good people of Oz, and that he was still feeling bad about the part he'd played in unlocking her fate -- especially since the first thing he does after this is request that Dorothy and friends give him time to think it over.

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\n* Theodora. A witch who was once good-hearted, innocent and beautiful is screwed over by the other characters, has her heart broken by the protagonist, and has an enchantment put on her to destroy her beauty and her heart. She has never been depicted as choosing evil; she has been tricked into it, and has done nothing of her own free will that ** Why would justify losing audience sympathy (even Oz's offer of redemption is a hollow gesture, as she has care that Evanora had lied to her once the capacity for apple took effect? It evidently made her see no problem in Evanora killing the king considering how she brings it up to Glinda later, and Oz really had manipulated her feelings required to choose redemption taken from her by trickery.) Yet she is DoomedByCanon to be treated by even if he hadn't done the plot of Film/TheWizardOfOz as pure evil (even though she is apparently throughout same to Evanora, so that film not herself but acting under an evil enchantment) who not only dies without redemption but whose death results in an unambiguous celebration ("Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!") and not a single tear for the good woman she once was. TheWoobie, ButtMonkey and ChewToy seem like understatements. ValuesDissonance much?
** OTGAP is getting a sequel set between it and Dorothy's time. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of Theodora yet. She may be redeemed yet... or she may completely cross the MoralEventHorizon, leaving the Wizard with no other choice.
** [[DoomedByCanon Considering what happens in Dorothy's time]] a redemption seems out of the question. We can hope
lied about that either she regains her free will and is given a reason to choose evil anyways or that [[FanWank her good part is extracted form her and, since this film identifies the Witches as the King's daughters, possibly reborn as Princess Ozma thus explaining how she could have be born while the Wizard is in Oz when her father, the King, died before Oscar arrived in this film.]]
*** No, only Glinda is the king's daughter in this movie. Evanora was his advisor and Theodora is Evanora's sister.
** Also, OTGAP takes place in an AlternateContinuity to Baum's novels and the 1939 film. It's entirely possible that the Witch of the West's death, should we ever see it, will be played more tragically in this universe than it was in the others.
** Even in Baum's original novel (where the Wicked Witch isn't overly evil and conniving like she is in the 1939 movie), Dorothy notes that the Wizard's voice trembles slightly as he verifies with them that Theo
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** Evidently Oz made a pass at the girl, not knowing she was with that man.



** Maybe a bit of both. The above makes mention of pro wrestling and {{Kayfabe}} which in a nutshell was when they still pretended wrestling was real and rivals couldn't be seen in public together it was a whole thing. I imagine that in those days there were at least a few times when some kid who's mom was getting beat up by his father ran up to Hulk Hogan and aske him to run wild and save his mommy.
** Well it was a sign that he wasn't as big a dick as he appeared. He looked genuinely guilty that he couldn't make the little girl walk again.

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** I may not be recalling the original Wizard of Oz film correctly, but doesn't Glinda use the same fog in that movie to wake Dorothy and Co. when they make the trip through the poppies? If that's the case, which I'm pretty sure it is, then Glinda's sister's would probably know her fog could counteract the poppy sleep effect.

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** I may not be recalling the original Wizard of Oz film correctly, but doesn't Glinda use the same fog in that movie to wake Dorothy and Co. when they make the trip through the poppies? If that's the case, which I'm pretty sure it is, then Glinda's sister's sisters would probably know her fog could counteract the poppy sleep effect.


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*** Glinda used a snowfall to awaken Dorothy, Toto, and the Lion.

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* How old is Oscar Diggs supposed to be in this continuity? Other versions of the story have him as a much older man who’s lived in Oz for years by the time Dorothy visits him, but this film’s problem tying into those is that here, Oz’s lady-friend, Annie, is implied to be Dorothy’s mother, and the two of them still appear to be quite young — in their 20s or 30s, maybe? Dorothy is portrayed as being 12 at the oldest during her first adventure in Oz, and Annie mentions receiving a proposal from her implied-to-be-father John Gale early on in this film. So how much time passed before their marriage and Dorothy’s conception that allowed the Wizard to age as much as he did? Unless Annie is actually Dorothy’s grandmother or time passes differently in Oz. (Which would explain how her uncle had time to build a entire new farmhouse during her adventures there in the first book.)

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* How old is Oscar Diggs supposed to be in this continuity? Other versions of the story have him as a much older man who’s lived in Oz for years by the time Dorothy visits him, but this film’s problem tying into those is that here, Oz’s lady-friend, Annie, is implied to be Dorothy’s mother, and the two of them still appear to be quite young — in their 20s or 30s, maybe? Dorothy is portrayed as being 12 at the oldest during her first adventure in Oz, and Annie mentions receiving a proposal from her implied-to-be-father John Gale early on in this film. So how much time passed before their marriage and Dorothy’s conception that allowed the Wizard to age as much as he did? Unless Annie is actually Dorothy’s grandmother or time passes differently in Oz. (Which would explain how her uncle had time to build Oz.
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a entire new farmhouse during her adventures there in the first book.)slight anagram of Dorothy's, or was it just a coincidence?
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** It’s all but stated to us that the Ozians have not yet invented glue as of the events of the film — when her legs are broken, China Girl laments that she’ll never be pieced back together, and she panics over being broken at other points in the movie, along with Oz introducing the glue he has as though it’s something she’s never heard of. These three things would not make sense if we assume glue was something they already have access to, and the one tiny bottle Oz possesses is not enough to repair an entire town.
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* How old is Oscar Diggs supposed to be in this continuity? Other versions of the story have him as a much older man who’s lived in Oz for years by the time Dorothy visits him, but this film’s problem tying into those is that here, Oz’s lady-friend, Annie, is implied to be Dorothy’s mother, and the two of them still appear to be quite young — in their 20s or 30s, maybe? Dorothy is portrayed as being 12 at the oldest during her first adventure in Oz, and Annie mentions receiving a proposal from her implied-to-be-father John Gale early on in this film. So how much time passed before their marriage and Dorothy’s conception that allowed the Wizard to age as much as he did?

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* How old is Oscar Diggs supposed to be in this continuity? Other versions of the story have him as a much older man who’s lived in Oz for years by the time Dorothy visits him, but this film’s problem tying into those is that here, Oz’s lady-friend, Annie, is implied to be Dorothy’s mother, and the two of them still appear to be quite young — in their 20s or 30s, maybe? Dorothy is portrayed as being 12 at the oldest during her first adventure in Oz, and Annie mentions receiving a proposal from her implied-to-be-father John Gale early on in this film. So how much time passed before their marriage and Dorothy’s conception that allowed the Wizard to age as much as he did?did? Unless Annie is actually Dorothy’s grandmother or time passes differently in Oz. (Which would explain how her uncle had time to build a entire new farmhouse during her adventures there in the first book.)
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** And Theodora was already in pain from her heart "withering and dying". It's likely she couldn't think of other solutions because of the state she was in.

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** And Theodora was already in pain from her heart "withering and dying". It's likely she couldn't think of other solutions because of the state she was in.in.
* How old is Oscar Diggs supposed to be in this continuity? Other versions of the story have him as a much older man who’s lived in Oz for years by the time Dorothy visits him, but this film’s problem tying into those is that here, Oz’s lady-friend, Annie, is implied to be Dorothy’s mother, and the two of them still appear to be quite young — in their 20s or 30s, maybe? Dorothy is portrayed as being 12 at the oldest during her first adventure in Oz, and Annie mentions receiving a proposal from her implied-to-be-father John Gale early on in this film. So how much time passed before their marriage and Dorothy’s conception that allowed the Wizard to age as much as he did?
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*** Who says she even needs to go to the bathroom? If her genetic makeup is so bizarre that water, the most basic and vital component of the human body is detrimental to her, it's not too large a leap to assume her bodily functions could differ greatly from normal people's.
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** If you had two AxCrazy witches out to get you, with only a flimsy scam to protect you, you'd age prematurely too.
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** Even in Baum's original novel (where the Wicked Witch isn't overly evil and conniving like she is in the 1939 movie), Dorothy notes that the Wizard's voice trembles slightly as he verifies with them that Theo really is dead. It wouldn't take much to tie that into the interpretation that he viewed her death as a tragic, but ultimately necessary act to ensure the safety of the good people of Oz, and that he was still feeling bad about the part he'd played in unlocking her fate -- especially since the first thing he does after this is request that Dorothy and friends give him time to think it over.
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** Also, nothing the resistance was putting together would've been enough to tip Evanora off as to their actual intentions. She would see them putting fireworks together (no one in Oz has ever heard of those), and sewing and stitching clothes together and gathering hay for the scarecrows. You would only spend so much time keeping watch over them before she write it off as an easy victory and devote your time to making sure your own army is prepared.
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* If we assume that this story follow's the film's continuity with regard to the Ruby slippers, the likeliest answer is that she got in touch with Theodora (who is red-themed and wears a ruby ring to cast magic) and had her create the shoes as a new conduit for her power to work through. Explains why Theo's so eager to recover them in the book and the 1939 film.
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*** Because she looks like Annie. This doesn't invalidate what the above user said.

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** It was a long time ago. Simple country folk only saw these magic shows when they came to town. The entire point of the shows back then was to convince them that magic was possible. Travelling medicine men sold sugar water as miracle cures. The better the act, the more likely people would be to believe Oz had great power.
** Note that the first person to back up their 'why can't you?' was the man who pointed out the wires - and still thought it was all a trick. Not everybody believes in magic, but quite a few people in the crowd did when they booed Oz off stage.
** It does stretch WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief a little there, but it's RuleOfDrama and {{Foreshadowing}} of fixing the porcelain girl's legs.

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** It was a long time ago. Simple country folk only saw these The difference is that we're not talking about the magic shows you go out and see today. Over 100 years ago when they came to town. The entire point of the shows back then was movie takes place, people were a lot more susceptible to convince them that magic was possible. Travelling medicine men sold sugar water as the idea of psychics and miracle cures. The better men who could make the act, the more likely people would be to believe Oz had great power.
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** It does stretch WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief a little there, but it's RuleOfDrama
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** In the books, he's able to carry around nine miniature piglets in his pocket throughout the entirety of one of his adventures with Dorothy. Also, remember that animals gain sapience while in Oz -- the bird could've been smart enough to know that it should stay in Oz's pocket until he set it free, especially if it was already trained to do that before.




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** It's not unreasonable that they would think the fog was somehow blocking the effects of the flowers. Whatever explanation they came up with, they saw an army marching on their city and thought they had to do something before they reached the gates. They couldn't just sit there and let them come, and if the approaching troops could withstand the poppies, the witches figured the flying monkeys could as well.


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** If they could be glued back together, the only person who would even have a chance of knowing who the pieces individually belong to is China Girl, and I doubt she'd be able to identify an entire town's worth of smashed bits of china. (In the books, the only characters we saw being mended were those who lost a small piece of themselves in relatively peaceful circumstances, which is quite different.) Not to mention, putting her in that position would be like having a traumatized veteran go back into a war zone to identify the body parts of their fallen comrades -- Oz and the others probably aren't comfortable with having her do that, especially when it's to try and accomplish something that so unlikely to succeed. All bringing her back would do is upset her further.
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** 1.) I'm pretty sure the "never die" thing only came into effect once Ozma ascended the throne. 2.) This film is actually meant more as a sequel to the original books than to the 1939 movie. It evokes certain things from the MGM film as nostalgic, but insignificant references (the only examples I can think of, honestly, are Theo's green skin and fire magic and the Oz/Kansas counterparts), but there are other, much more major parts of it that contradict the events of the MGM film (mainly the AllJustADream thing) because it's written to follow the books from a story perspective. (Mostly -- I don't think the books ever mentioned the king leaving a prophecy behind, and his daughter in the books was Princess Ozma, who was hidden away as a baby, not an adult Glinda the Good like in this film.)

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** 1.) I'm pretty sure the "never die" thing only came into effect once Ozma ascended the throne. 2.) This film is actually meant more as a sequel prequel to the original books than to the 1939 movie. It evokes certain things from the MGM film as nostalgic, but insignificant references (the only examples I can think of, honestly, are Theo's green skin and fire magic and the Oz/Kansas counterparts), but there are other, much more major parts of it that contradict the events of the MGM film (mainly the AllJustADream thing) because it's written to follow the books from a story perspective. (Mostly -- I don't think the books ever mentioned the king leaving a prophecy behind, and his daughter in the books was Princess Ozma, who was hidden away as a baby, not an adult Glinda the Good like in this film.)
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** 1.) I'm pretty sure the "never die" thing only came into effect once Ozma ascended the throne. 2.) This film is actually meant more as a sequel to the original books than to the 1939 movie. It evokes certain things from the MGM film as nostalgic, but insignificant references (the only examples I can think of, honestly, are Theo's green skin and fire magic and the Oz/Kansas counterparts), but there are other, much more major parts of it that contradict the events of the MGM film (mainly the AllJustADream thing) because it's written to follow the books from a story perspective. (Mostly -- I don't think the books ever mentioned the king leaving a prophecy behind, and his daughter in the books was Princess Ozma, who was hidden away as a baby, not an adult Glinda the Good like in this film.)
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** The notion that people in Oz are wary/afraid of magic users is something that was carried over from the books, where it was said to be viewed as an unnatural force that made the people who sought to practice it seem untrustworthy. Unless you were in a position of power and could easily leave an impression on people (like Glinda and the Witches of the East and West), people wouldn't know what to think of you, and so tended to err on the side of caution. Theo could've been in the same boat as Mombi (the sorceress who, in the books, helped the Wizard keep the true ruler of Oz hidden away during his reign), in that her neighbors were always careful to treat her respectfully, but never went out of their way to socialize with her because they were suspicious of her magical skills.
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** It's not unreasonable that they would think the fog was somehow blocking the effects of the flowers. Whatever explanation they came up with, they saw an army marching on their city and thought they had to do something before they reached the gates. They couldn't just sit there and let them come, and if the approaching troops could withstand the poppies, the witches figured the flying monkeys could as well.

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** It's not unreasonable that they would think the fog was somehow blocking the effects of the flowers. Whatever explanation they came up with, they saw an army marching on their city and thought they had to do something before they reached the gates. They couldn't just sit there and let them come, and if the approaching troops could withstand the poppies, the witches figured the flying monkeys could as well.
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** It's not unreasonable that they would think the fog was somehow blocking the effects of the flowers. Whatever explanation they came up with, they saw an army marching on their city and thought they had to do something before they reached the gates. They couldn't just sit there and let them come, and if the approaching troops could withstand the poppies, the witches figured the flying monkeys could as well.
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** Keeping up the ruse of being good was likely for her sister's sake more than that of the general populace, since Theodora could serve as a powerful enemy of Evanora and clearly wouldn't want to side with her if she found out who she really was. Once she'd been tricked into eating the apple so that she no longer cares, there's no risk in Evanora exposing herself as the wicked witch she really is.
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** My guess is that the apple needs to be swallowed before it takes affect. An enchanted apple like that probably has a very peculiar taste to it, so Theodora would've realized something was up and spit it out if her sister had tried to feed it to her surreptitiously. Not only would it not have worked, but it would run the risk of her turning against Evanora if she realizes she just tried to poison her.



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* Several things don't seem to fit between this movie and ''The Wizard of Oz''. Going by the MGM movie, the chief problem is: ''how comes the Wizard aged like that?'' This is the Land of Oz. The land where you never die (except from a magic-induced WeaksauceWeakness like Theodora's water problem). Relatedly, deciding Glinda and Oz are in love was an odd idea, because whatever version you're going with (be it the movie or the book), the modern-day-Wizard and the modern-day-Glinda are ''not'' in love (if nothign else, I doubt post-character-development-Oz would plan to leave Oz in his air baloon with Doroty without even so much as a goodbye to the love of his life), meaning their relationship is DoomedByCanon.

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* Several things don't seem to fit between this movie and ''The Wizard of Oz''. Going by the MGM movie, the chief problem is: ''how comes the Wizard aged like that?'' This is the Land of Oz. The land where you never die (except from a magic-induced WeaksauceWeakness like Theodora's water problem). Relatedly, deciding Glinda and Oz are in love was an odd idea, because whatever version you're going with (be it the movie or the book), the modern-day-Wizard and the modern-day-Glinda are ''not'' in love (if nothign else, I doubt post-character-development-Oz would plan to leave Oz in his air baloon with Doroty Dorothy without even so much as a goodbye to the love of his life), meaning their relationship is DoomedByCanon.

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