History Headscratchers / Music

** 1) They may well prefer just to earn a good buck making the music rather than risk going solo 2) Being a solid musician is not necessarily enough to make it in the pop music world. There is a reason why {{David Bowie}} made it as a a solo artist and Mick Ronson (despite his talent as a producer/instrumentalist/arranger) didn't.

* As an actual FridgeLogic example, if AlternativeRock is for all intents and purposes mainstream in terms of popularity amongst the various rock genres, what is it an alternative to? I can understand what TheSexPistols were an alternative to (ProgressiveRock) and what the like of {{Nirvana}} were an alternative to (HairMetal), but if alt rock is the most mainstream type of rock music at the moment, why does it still bear this name?

** It's also worth noting that the Weather Girls first came to prominence as backup singers for Sylvester, a famously CampGay disco singer. They were probably well aware what kind of anthems became popular with the gay crowd, so the gay subtext may have been intentional to begin with.

** Hugely entertaining tangential rant aside, the troper above appears to be mistaken; according to TheOtherWiki, the first US album credited to Milli Vanilli was released in 1989, and they'd been releasing singles since 1988, so it's perfectly valid for a 1980s music channel to play (some of) their music. To address the actual question, the duo who the songs are credited to are frauds, but the songs themselves still exist; it's not like someone destroyed all copies when the truth came out or it's illegal to play those songs or anything. Most music stations buy the rights to play a whole load of songs as part of a package rather than individually, particular when it comes to 'golden oldie' style hits, and they just get shoved on in the rotation along with the others, since who cares that much about a has-been Eighties/Nineties pop band who turned out to be lip-synching?

* Why is the band Korn listed under Alternative/Indie in the Musicians page? I mean, there are a lot of bands in the Metal section that are just as heavy if not lighter.
** They're part of the NuMetal scene (iconic of it, actually), and as such are far too controversial to list in anything except "Alternative." On one side, you have the belief that their sound is sufficiently chunky and heavy to warrant classification as metal. On the other, you have the fair counter-argument that they don't actually have a metal sound - the riffs are not metal, the vocals are not metal, and the image is not metal (as silly as it is, image is a key aspect of metal, even as a genre that seems to eschew image).
** True, but there are plenty of nu-metal bands listed in the metal section, and nobody bats an eye.

* Why do metal fans call bands that are ''clearly'' metal 'not metal' just because they dislike them?? As a diehard metal fan, that has always bugged me so much. I mean, explain to me how Slipknot, Bring Me the Horizon, Korn etc. aren't metal.
** NoTrueScotsman?
** How are Slipknot and Korn ''clearly'' metal? The Korn example was already elaborated on above, and Slipknot has even harsher backlash than Korn ever did. Same problem: lack of metal sound and image. Their sound is certainly distinctive, even heavy, but it strays from some of those distinct metal ideas that are present in almost every metal album. Their image is far more reminiscent of a shock rock act like Marilyn Manson or Alice Cooper, and the fact that the band has an unnecessarily large number of members certainly doesn't help (we're talking about a genre which idolizes power trios like Motorhead and Rage). Plus, there's the unfortunate addition of hip-hop into the sound at times, which rarely gets a pass. Sometimes it's fantastic and even recognized by old guard metal heads as good (see: RageAgainstTheMachine), but other times, it falls flat on its face (see: Limp Bizkit).
*** As for Bring Me the Horizon, they're {{Metalcore}}. Another controversial genre which rides the line between being metal and being the descendant of hardcore punk and post-hardcore. Even TheOtherWiki lists it as being more part of the punk subculture than the metal subculture. Moreover, there are elements of {{Emo}} that ''really'' piss off a number of old guard metal heads (people like my dad, who've been in the genre since the 70s).
*** If you want to make inroads, start using Between the Buried and Me as an example. They're progressive metal that rides the line between technical death metal and metal/deathcore. It's almost always better to start with a progressive example when you want your genre to become better accepted in the wider metal culture, since they universally have superior musicianship and frequently smarter songwriting and lyrics. It's a lot easier to convince someone that "Analyze my own matter from above/Blacked out eyes in an existence overgrown" is smart, innovative songwriting than, "SHE ISN'T REAL! I CAN'T MAKE HER REAL!"

* Why is the band Korn listed under Alternative/Indie in the Musicians page? I mean, there are a lot of bands in the Metal section that are just as heavy if not lighter.

** TheBeatles spoke to this in their very first American press conference: Paul: The Liverpool accent - so, the way you say some of the words. You know, you say GRASS instead of GRAHHSS, and that sounds a bit American. So there ya go.

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* I am quite confused by how doujin music industry works:

1. How much time does a doujin music singer spend on music recording? Several doujin singers ''appear as vocals in multiple albums by multiple circles'' in events which are spaced approximately 3 months in between.

2. How does the circle membership work? In the VGMdb, I saw singers who are tied to one circle somehow manages to appear in music works outside of the circles they are associated in. Plus, Mitani Nana somehow manages to have an album tied to ''her own name'' rather than a circle. She may not be tied to a circle, but that makes me wonder how she managed to do it.