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*** Well there's no indication he actually believed Regina's lies about Cady. He's shown talking to her as normal afterwards and shows no signs of being wary about stalking or whatnot. He wouldn't offer to tutor her if he was creeped out by her. He most likely thought that Regina was just being jealous and bitchy about another girl liking him. Since Regina immediately made a pass at him, that's probably what he thought.
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** * I don't think Janis is the bitchiest person in the movie, but you make some good points. She does use Cady for revenge and doesn't express any real remorse or get comeuppance for it.
** Well Regina did put on a good show of being upset about it. Duvall probably didn't think that she would be [[RefugeInAudacity manipulative enough]] to turn in a book she primarily wrote in an attempt to frame her former friends. Alternately he ''did'' question her for a while - and then called the other three into the office, possibly not wanting them in with Regina because, as was already said, she'd been publicly kicked out of their clique.
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** He probably would have suspected Regina under normal circumstances, and I'm sure he realised what she'd done after that whole scene. But remember, by the time he left his office all hell had broke loose. It didn't matter ''how'' the girls had seeen the burn book, it just mattered that they ''had'' and he had to deal with the aftermath.
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** He probably would have suspected Regina under normal circumstances, and I'm sure he realised what she'd done after that whole scene. But remember, by the time he left his office all hell had broke loose. It didn't matter ''how'' the girls had seeen seen the burn book, it just mattered that they ''had'' and he had to deal with the aftermath.
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*** Later schools maybe. But not really in 2004. Maybe the odd security camera ''outside'' to stop students misbehaving on the grounds, where teachers can't get to them. But since Tina Fey wrote this inspired partially by her own high school life, she definitely wouldn't consider CCTV in the hallways.
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** Regina is just being vapid and fake. It probably gives her a real surge to tell the girl that the skirt is nice and then immediately tell Cady how ugly it is.
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** Plus the ringleader of the Mathletes seems to be Kevin G, who is a bit of a JiveTurkey. If Cady were in the Mathletes, it would probably be assumed she was one of his friends.
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** In every school, there seem to be a group of five or six people that get picked on even worse than everyone else. Mathletes = easy targets.
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* Why does anyone care if Cady joins the Mathletes? They keep saying it's "social suicide" but in a school that size, who even notices four people who are good at math?
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** Theoretically, OP has a point, but there's no reason for Regina to be the queen bee of the school if no one listens to her. She doesn't just tell the Plastics that the skirt is ugly; she probably spreads the word around. Then the rest of the school's female population follows suit, and eventually this girl's vintage skirt is reviled and mocked, but she'll feel confused because even though everyone else hates it, she still likes it, and if Regina George liked her skirt, doesn't that mean it's cool? ''Doesn't it''? Cognitive dissonance and low self-esteem results. It's psychological warfare.
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** That was my issue too. Don't most schools have security cameras in the hallways? Why didn't Regina get busted for spreading all of the things they said?
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** As pointed out above there really wasn't anything happening with the cliques until the plot kicks in. This may have been one of the hints that Regina wasn't really as outwardly bitchy as she was made out to be. Cady would recognize the dis to her bracelet but that girl would never know the difference. Why alienate the people you are trying to control.
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** What confused me is that he makes it clear from the start he knows what kind of person Regina is, yet instantly believes the over-the-top lie she tells him about Cady, and lets Regina flaunt their relationship in Cady's face ''knowing'' she's in love with him. My impression is that Aron may be a good guy, he's just not very bright and/or insightful. Otherwise, the above comment.
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** What confused me is that he makes it clear from the start he knows what kind of person Regina is, yet instantly believes the over-the-top lie she tells him about Cady, and lets Regina flaunt their relationship in Cady's face ''knowing'' she's in love with him.even when Cady's supposedly a creepy stalker (had it been true, he'd be wise to be more subtle). My impression is that Aron may be a good guy, he's just not very bright and/or insightful. Otherwise, the above comment.
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** What confused me is that he makes it clear from the start he knows what kind of person Regina is, yet instantly believes the over-the-top lie she tells him about Cady. Cady, and lets Regina flaunt their relationship in Cady's face ''knowing'' she's in love with him. My impression is that Aron may be a good guy, he's just not very bright.bright and/or insightful. Otherwise, the above comment.
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** What confused me is that he makes it clear from the start he knows what kind of person Regina is, yet instantly believes the over-the-top lie she tells him about Cady. My impression is that Aron may be a good guy, he's just not very bright. Otherwise, the above comment.
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*Rather insignificant detail, but what is the point in Regina telling Cady her bracelet is cute and that that girl's skirt is adorable if she hates them, but then never tells them she secretly hates them? She's supposed to be bitchy, so wouldn't it make more sense for her to outright tell the girl "that skirt is the ugliest effing skirt I've ever seen", or actually mean it when she says it's adorable? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to lie like that, and it doesn't do anyone any good, either, so what's the point?
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**That being said, Aaron is a male [[SatelliteLoveInterest satellite love interest]] for Cady, so going into detail about his motives and personality is pretty pointless. He exists for Cady to love and as more of a driving force to the plot than an actual character, and he doesn't really matter beyond that. To be frank, he dated Regina to cause Cady wangst and chews her out over becoming like Regina because it helps drive Cady into being the likable girl she was before. If you were to remove him and exchange him for a shirt that Cady and Regina both liked, the plot would pretty much be exactly the same.
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** Wait until she gets to college. She'll probably fare a little better.
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*** Everyone knows the bitchiest person in the movie is the "you can try Sears" lady.
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** Regina had been publicly kicked out of the Plastics at lunch. That would be big news for the teachers to discuss. And Regina was the last person added into the Burn Book so that matched up with her getting kicked out.
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*** Was that supposed to be a joke, ''especially'' coming from a female (nice that you can't just say girls or women, too)? Guys bitch every day like girls are supposed to be 5-7 days a month. Even Aaron did it. But yes, only teenage boys, well-known for their good sense and high moral values, are capable of that. Girls never do it (like Cady and Janis and Ms. Newbury). The ones who do it like myself simply don't exist. Except you, probably.
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*** Was that supposed to be a joke, ''especially'' coming from a female (nice that you can't just say girls or women, too)? Guys bitch every day like girls are supposed to be 5-7 days a month. Even Aaron did it. But yes, only teenage boys, well-known for their good sense and high moral values, are capable of that. Girls never do it (like Cady and Janis and Ms. Newbury). The ones who do it like myself simply don't exist. Except you, probably. The most realistic thing about Aaron this Troper has found is that he knowingly continues dating a sociopath because she's attractive and puts out freely.
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*** Was that supposed to be a joke, ''especially'' coming from a female (nice that you can't just say girls or women, too)? Guys bitch every day like girls are supposed to be 5-7 days a month. Even Aaron did it. But yes, only teenage boys, famous for their good sense and high moral values, are capable of that. Girls never do it. The ones who do it like myself simply don't exist.
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*** Was that supposed to be a joke, ''especially'' coming from a female (nice that you can't just say girls or women, too)? Guys bitch every day like girls are supposed to be 5-7 days a month. Even Aaron did it. But yes, only teenage boys, famous for their good sense and high moral values, are capable of that. Girls never do it. The ones who do it like myself simply don't exist.
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** It's realistic. Even with a school-wide ''"epiphany assembly"'', there are people who will still not "get it".
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** Like he said, why would she call herself a fugly slut? Besides, this movie is rife with cliques breaking up, so he could easily have thought (correctly) that Regina was no longer in with the plastics.
** He probably would have suspected Regina under normal circumstances, and I'm sure he realised what she'd done after that whole scene. But remember, by the time he left his office all hell had broke loose. It didn't matter ''how'' the girls had seeen the burn book, it just mattered that they ''had'' and he had to deal with the aftermath.
* Is anyone else kinda bothered by the epilogue? Karen, Regina and Cady all sort of do their own thing but Gretchen "finds a new clique and a new queen bee to serve". So, she's just as bad as she was before? How is that a happy ending?
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* Is anyone else kinda bothered by the epilogue? Karen, Regina and Cady all sort of do their own thing but Gretchen "finds a new clique and a new queen bee to serve". So, she's just as bad as she was before? How is that a happy ending?
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*Principal Duvall is talking to Gretchen, Karen and Cady while Regina is out in the hallways throwing photocopies around. Why did no one care who it was that leaked the Burn Book, the principal literally says he "hope[s] no one else does see it"? Why did it not open up suspicion to Regina, who wasn't in the office with those three but was friends with them?
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** * I don't think Janis is the bitchiest person in the movie, but you make some good points. She does use Cady for revenge and doesn't express any real remorse or get comeuppance for it.
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* When Principal Duvall was talking to the Karen, Gretchen, and Cady about the "Burn Book" because Regina told him that their names weren't in the book, why didn't he suspect Regina could've been in on it too? He clearly knows that she's friends with Gretchen and Karen, and recently Cady.
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** To be fair, Aaron is a high school boy who likely doesn't take relationships very seriously. Yes, he remains faithful to whoever he's dating, but maybe he realizes that high school relationships aren't a big deal.
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*** It's probably important to remember that he does say that Cady is a CLONE of Regina. She's not being herself anymore, she's essentially someone else. Aaron didn't really seem to have an issue with Regina being mean, but he respected the fact that she was genuinely mean and didn't try to hide it or pretend that she was someone other than herself. That's not to say that Aaron has the best girlfriend picking skills, but again, teenage boy. When he realized that Cady was just like Regina, it was jarring, partially because Regina played him, but also because he knew that Cady wasn't initially like that, and she was just acting that way because she'd allowed herself to be "corrupted," for lack of a better word. She was fake, and here's the kicker, PLASTIC.
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** {{YMMV}}, but this This troper never saw Aaron as anything close to plastic.
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*** Keep in mind that he says this after the second time they broke up. Getting burnt twice by Regina probably hammered in the lesson for Aaron that Regina isn't that great of a person. Now that Cady is increasingly emulating Regina, especially so soon after he broke up with Regina, it viscerally repelled him. Teenage boys aren't the deepest or smartest of creatures, but they can learn, even if it takes a while. Aaron is no exception. Whether you think he is shallow or not, at least he was not malevolent like the plastics were at the height of their power.
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*** ^ What that person said. The moral of the movie is obviously that we've all felt victimised by others, and in our moments of weakness we've all tried to make ourselves feel better by being mean in return. This is shown in the assembly scene with Tina Fey and the Maths Tournament scene. Janis, Gretchen, Cady, Regina, pretty much every girl in the movie is mean to the others because they're insecure about their ability to make friends/self-esteem. That's what teens do.
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