History Headscratchers / MassEffect2

2nd Sep '17 9:00:23 AM HalcyonDayz
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*** In ME3, we do. Plus, the Council have shown themselves to have very little actual teeth beyond the Spectres anyway. What are they going to do, send MORE to get killed by Shepard? I can imagine entire squads of them coming up short against Shepard, Garrus and Grunt.

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*** In ME3, ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', we do. Plus, the Council have shown themselves to have very little actual teeth beyond the Spectres anyway. What are they going to do, send MORE to get killed by Shepard? I can imagine entire squads of them coming up short against Shepard, Garrus and Grunt.



*** There's NO evidence Sovereign was somehow less powerful than one Asari dreadnought. That's massively overstating things considering it's quite quickly crippled by Geth ships and Sovereign shrugs off entire fleets' worth of fire until its kinetic barriers go down. In ME3, it's even stated as fact that you need 3-4 dreadnoughts working together to even tax the barriers of a Reaper capital ship.

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*** There's NO evidence Sovereign was somehow less powerful than one Asari dreadnought. That's massively overstating things considering it's quite quickly crippled by Geth ships and Sovereign shrugs off entire fleets' worth of fire until its kinetic barriers go down. In ME3, ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', it's even stated as fact that you need 3-4 dreadnoughts working together to even tax the barriers of a Reaper capital ship.



*** It still wasn't worth the potential risk of losing Shepard and two other squadmates. At the very least, Shepard would've been slightly better prepared. It's not like the Collectors were watching their every move - they waited until the squad accessed the mainframe and ''then'' attacked. From very far away. That mission wouldn't have went any differently, the Illusive Man is simply Cerberus through and through. Even when he claims to have your interests at heart, he's still ultimately using you. This is proven right in ME3, when it's discovered that yes, in fact, Cerberus IS as vile and underhanded as you always believed. They just carefully chose people for the Lazarus cell in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' to make Shepard ''think they weren't.''

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*** It still wasn't worth the potential risk of losing Shepard and two other squadmates. At the very least, Shepard would've been slightly better prepared. It's not like the Collectors were watching their every move - they waited until the squad accessed the mainframe and ''then'' attacked. From very far away. That mission wouldn't have went any differently, the Illusive Man is simply Cerberus through and through. Even when he claims to have your interests at heart, he's still ultimately using you. This is proven right in ME3, ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', when it's discovered that yes, in fact, Cerberus IS as vile and underhanded as you always believed. They just carefully chose people for the Lazarus cell in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' to make Shepard ''think they weren't.''



*** The Hammerhead works on Mass Effect principles, not air cushions. That's how it's able to boost up to the Normandy at the end of missions. The Hammerhead is just an infantry fighting vehicle that isn't designed for protracted firefights. A few hits from a Geth Colossus results in heavy damage even on lower difficulties. Conversely the Mako isn't designed for mobility or speed, but can take an absolute pounding. In terms of combat applications the Mako is a better vehicle. The Hammerhead was just a prototype. I still wanted it during ME3, though - I hated the fact there were zero vehicle missions in the third game.

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*** The Hammerhead works on Mass Effect principles, not air cushions. That's how it's able to boost up to the Normandy at the end of missions. The Hammerhead is just an infantry fighting vehicle that isn't designed for protracted firefights. A few hits from a Geth Colossus results in heavy damage even on lower difficulties. Conversely the Mako isn't designed for mobility or speed, but can take an absolute pounding. In terms of combat applications the Mako is a better vehicle. The Hammerhead was just a prototype. I still wanted it during ME3, ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', though - I hated the fact there were zero vehicle missions in the third game.
2nd Sep '17 8:12:26 AM HalcyonDayz
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*** It still wasn't worth the potential risk of losing Shepard and two other squadmates. At the very least, Shepard would've been slightly better prepared. It's not like the Collectors were watching their every move - they waited until the squad accessed the mainframe and ''then'' attacked. From very far away. That mission wouldn't have went any differently, the Illusive Man is simply Cerberus through and through. Even when he claims to have your interests at heart, he's still ultimately using you. This is proven right in ME3, when it's discovered that yes, in fact, Cerberus IS as vile and underhanded as you always believed. They just carefully chose people for the Lazarus cell in ME2 to make Shepard ''think they weren't.''

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*** It still wasn't worth the potential risk of losing Shepard and two other squadmates. At the very least, Shepard would've been slightly better prepared. It's not like the Collectors were watching their every move - they waited until the squad accessed the mainframe and ''then'' attacked. From very far away. That mission wouldn't have went any differently, the Illusive Man is simply Cerberus through and through. Even when he claims to have your interests at heart, he's still ultimately using you. This is proven right in ME3, when it's discovered that yes, in fact, Cerberus IS as vile and underhanded as you always believed. They just carefully chose people for the Lazarus cell in ME2 ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' to make Shepard ''think they weren't.''



*** While TIM's not an unattractive man by any means, if the report of his sex life is accurate, he's not getting that much tail based on looks and Martin Sheen's voice. He's in the Fiction 500; they're sleeping with him for his money. Alternatively, he could very well be blackmailing them. It's also possible there's Reaper-derived mind control technique involved; either indoctrinated them or (as we later see in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'') he compelled them directly. [[note]] The Reaper tech he had implanted and Cerberus' messing around with true Reaper devices happens post-ME2. In the second game TIM is just as concerned with stopping the Reapers as Shepard is. By the third, he's come to believe (ie the Reapers want him to think so) that the Reapers can be controlled - and thus interferes with any attempt to defeat or destroy them.[[/note]]

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*** While TIM's not an unattractive man by any means, if the report of his sex life is accurate, he's not getting that much tail based on looks and Martin Sheen's voice. He's in the Fiction 500; they're sleeping with him for his money. Alternatively, he could very well be blackmailing them. It's also possible there's Reaper-derived mind control technique involved; either indoctrinated them or (as we later see in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'') he compelled them directly. [[note]] The Reaper tech he had implanted and Cerberus' messing around with true Reaper devices happens post-ME2.post-[=ME2=]. In the second game TIM is just as concerned with stopping the Reapers as Shepard is. By the third, he's come to believe (ie the Reapers want him to think so) that the Reapers can be controlled - and thus interferes with any attempt to defeat or destroy them.[[/note]]
2nd Sep '17 5:26:59 AM HalcyonDayz
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* How comes the VS is the only one reacting anything close to normal when seeing their friend/lover comes BackFromTheDead and working with what was pretty much a racist [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Umbrella]]? More importantly, how comes none of the other ME1 squadmates shows any surprise or suspicion ''at all''?

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* How comes the VS is the only one reacting anything close to normal when seeing their friend/lover comes BackFromTheDead and working with what was pretty much a racist [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Umbrella]]? More importantly, how comes none of the other ME1 ''VideoGame/MassEffect1'' squadmates shows any surprise or suspicion ''at all''?
1st Sep '17 6:31:05 AM timemonkey
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** The answer is that it doesn't matter, this is a setting where even a same sex couple can have their own children and Miranda's dad was able to build his own perfect kids. Even if their junk isn't working properly anymore all it'll take is a trip to the doctor to have a kid if they want one. Yay for future space medicine.
11th Aug '17 12:32:36 AM SkidTroper
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** While the important parts are intact, that doesn't refer to production of... to be blunt; can Maleshep's testicles still produce sperm? Do Femshep's ovaries still hold and release eggs? Can Femshep carry a baby to term? There's no mention of Maleshep and Ashley/Maleshep and Jack/Femshep and Kaidan having children and what effects that would have, and it is possible for the parts to be physically intact but for another reason not work (such as Miranda's neoplasm making her barren).
2nd Jul '17 7:57:27 PM SkidTroper
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** In that scene, Shepard's statement is "I noticed a few ''upgrades''. I hope you didn't replace anything really important." That does have sexual implications (and the Romances reveal that Shepard is still capable of having sex), but true there's no word on having children (apart from that "...a lot of blue children" conversation with Liara and Female Shepard discussing their incompatible biology with Garrus).
28th Jun '17 9:06:16 AM Zaptech
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** There's confirmation one way or the other, but the Illusive Man dos say that they left all of the important parts intact.

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** There's no direct confirmation one way or the other, but the Illusive Man dos say that they left all of the important parts intact.
28th Jun '17 2:15:59 AM Zaptech
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** There's confirmation one way or the other, but the Illusive Man dos say that they left all of the important parts intact.
26th Jun '17 8:38:33 PM SkidTroper
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* Given the injuries and cybernetic reconstruction Shepard underwent, can Shepard still have children? Is Male Shepard virile? Is Female Shepard fertile?
25th Jun '17 8:57:25 PM Zaptech
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** Not that it's a very good South African accent, but that is what it's supposed to be.

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** Not that it's a very good South African accent, but that is what it's supposed to be.
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