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*** It wouldn't. Your version would allow a Judge to kill someone and then get rid of his Lawgiver to avoid a concrete link to such murders altogether. Tagging the bullets is better because getting rid of bullets you've used to kill people is not something you can do on the fly.
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***** But if Rico's DNA is mutated, how could it have been pinged for Dredd's non-mutated DNA without deliberately tampering with evidence (which, again, is never suggested to have been done here)?
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** The death penalty seems to exist depending on the writer. Generally, though, killing a judge will likely earn it. Also, it seems that there's plenty of HypocriticalHumor afoot. The judges took power, as democracy [[{{Understatement}} proved to be less than ideal]]. The judge system itself, relies on judges being completely by the book. Dredd is probably the only one who is ever consistent in this (and even he slips up at times). In fact, there are plenty of corrupt judges (One ''Simping Detective'' story states that Jack Point is the only honest judge in Sector 13. This being the [[SmokingIsCool chain-smoking]] [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic]] [[AnythingThatMoves womaniser]] who [[ObfuscatingStupidity literally dresses like a clown]]). One story even uses the phrase "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely", lending credence to the theory that the judges are nowhere near as ideal as they'd like. There's a good reason for the SJS.

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** The death penalty seems to exist depending on the writer. Generally, though, killing a judge will likely earn it. Also, it seems that there's plenty of HypocriticalHumor afoot. The judges took power, as democracy [[{{Understatement}} proved to be less than ideal]].not ideal. The judge system itself, relies on judges being completely by the book. Dredd is probably the only one who is ever consistent in this (and even he slips up at times). In fact, there are plenty of corrupt judges (One ''Simping Detective'' story states that Jack Point is the only honest judge in Sector 13. This being the [[SmokingIsCool chain-smoking]] [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic]] [[AnythingThatMoves womaniser]] who [[ObfuscatingStupidity literally dresses like a clown]]). One story even uses the phrase "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely", lending credence to the theory that the judges are nowhere near as ideal as they'd like. There's a good reason for the SJS.
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** Treemeat plantations have been shown. That is, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin meat that grows on trees]].
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** First, why would a Judge's pistol have a feature that recorded the DNA of the user on the bullets fired? Lawbringers are DNA-locked, so only the authorized user can fire them in the first place. Recording that on the bullets would be redundant.

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** First, why would a Judge's pistol have a feature that recorded the DNA of the user on the bullets fired? Lawbringers Lawgivers are DNA-locked, so only the authorized user can fire them in the first place. Recording that on the bullets would be redundant.
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* The evidence at Dredd's trial was a security video from the victim's apartment and a DNA sample from the gun that was used. Several problems with this:
** First, why would a Judge's pistol have a feature that recorded the DNA of the user on the bullets fired? Lawbringers are DNA-locked, so only the authorized user can fire them in the first place. Recording that on the bullets would be redundant.
** Second, why would that feature be kept a secret? Wouldn't Judges know all the capabilities of their weapons and equipment?
** Third, in a city as heavily monitored as Mega-City One, why was there no record of the real Dredd's location at the time of the murder? Shouldn't there be some record of where Dredd actually was? An alibi? Cameras near his home? Something?
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** The Judges have to fight mutants as well. And from the "Judge Dredd verse Aliens" comics, it seems that it is standard procedure to burn mutated pest.

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** The Judges have to fight mutants as well. And from the "Judge Dredd verse Aliens" comics, it seems that it is standard procedure to burn mutated pest.
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** It basically doubles as a hi-ex round when fired near flammable sources (gas tanks, for instance).

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** And Judge Fear's attack doesn't always work. Dredd, for one, managed to not only over come his fears, but punched Judge Fear in the face.



** I think it is because that Judge Dredd is in many ways a story about human nature and flaws in political systems. The occasional aliens or monster stories are just to give us a reason why thinks are bad in the world despite how technologically advance it is.




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** The Judges have to fight mutants as well. And from the "Judge Dredd verse Aliens" comics, it seems that it is standard procedure to burn mutated pest.
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** The death penalty seems to exist depending on the writer. Generally, though, killing a judge will likely earn it. Also, it seems that there's plenty of HypocriticalHumor afoot. The judges took power, as democracy [[{{Understatement}} proved to be less than ideal]]. The judge system itself, relies on judges being completely by the book. Dredd is probably the only one who is ever consistent in this (and even he slips up at times). In fact, there are plenty of corrupt judges (One ''Simping Detective'' story states that Jack Point is the only honest judge in Sector 13. This being the [[SmokingIsCool chain-smoking]] [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic]] [[AnythingThatMoves womaniser]] who [[ObfuscatingStupidity literally dresses like a clown]]). One story even uses the phrase "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely", lending credence to the theory that the judges are nowhere near as ideal as they'd like. There's a good reason for the SJS.
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* The existence of the incendiary round on the Lawgiver, even prior to the Dark Judges. It's difficult to see how even a law enforcement agency such as the Judges would come across situations that require things to be set on fire a lot. In fact, in the ''Apocalypse War'' arc, Dredd nearly gets himself killed trying to escape from East Meg judges due to only having incendiaries left.
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**** Plus, [[HandWave Fargo states that Rico mutated at some point]].
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***** Not really, in the Judge Anderson story "Contact", it was shown that there are some nice and peaceful aliens out there.
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* For a society that is suppose to be all about following the letter of the law, the Judges(including Dredd) seems to have no problem with breaking the rules if it serves them. For example, it has been repeatedly stated that Mega-City One doesn't have the death penalty, but in the 'Judge Dredd in America' story, Dredd ordered the Judges to open fire on the Total War terrorist even though they have clearly surrendered and should have been arrested instead. Also, in the Judge Anderson story 'Satan', the Judges secretly killed a Christian minister for challenging the Judges system, even though they themselves admit that he he didn't break any laws in giving public speeches, he didn't even resist when Anderson arrested him. And even if he did somehow break the law, they cannot legally kill him, and can only at most give him life in prison. Sometimes it feel like that instead of LawfulNeutral taken to the extreme, the Judges feels more like your average NeutralEvil dictatorship that will break its own laws just to stay in power.
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** (The OP) If the second idea about the black market is correct, then this is perhaps a really well done example of FridgeBrilliance. A society that is based on the idea of having zero tolerance towards crime is in fact totally dependent on crime in order for it to have a functional economy. It is kind of like 1984, in which the society is forced to fight a never ending war against in that the act of crime itself has become the glue that is keeping society from falling apart.
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** The companies that use all those robots pay high taxes, when then goes to support the city and pay out welfare checks to the unemployed citizens, and has enough of a trade surplus to avoid diminishing returns.
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**** The Dredd/ Rico genetic sample was an amalgamation of available genetic material at the time, not just Fargo's as in the comic. It explains why Fargo didn't get pinged, but not why non-identical twins have the same DNA.
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** The black market in Mega-City One is many, many times the size of the legitimate economy. It's not difficult to get a job pushing sugar or trafficking weapons if you need a few creds.
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** Must be like in StarTrek, but much, much worse.


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** Maybe he saves the whole "Gaze into the face of fear" thing for those people he really wants to kill, or it only works on one person at the same time (think [[HarryPotter Boggart]]), so if he tried to use it on more than one person it would just not work.


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** Blame Stallone. He demanded to have a scene where he removes the helmet.
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*** Chief Justice Fargo would have been a "current judge" at the time of the hearing.

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*** Chief Justice Fargo would have been a "current judge" at the time of the hearing. He was presiding over the Council ''at'' the hearing.
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* I know aliens have been a part of Dredd continuity since the beginning. But the stories where they don't show up are always so much more -fun-. And then the next issue bam, it's Star Trek with lots more head explodings. Granted, fun in itself but nowhere near the 'level' of human-only Dredd stories.
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** It's certainly possible to have a maximum range. Either due to excessive spread and the like, which would make hitting the judges highly difficult, or simple air friction reducing the bullet's speed to terminal velocity, although I doubt you'd have it slow down that much any time soon.
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* How does the economy of Mega-City One functions? If most of the city's population is unemployed as result of jobs being replaced by robots, then there should be not enough consumers to support the economy since large parts of the population isn't getting paid for work.
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* Why does Judge Fear wear a mask? If he truly wants to kill all the living, you'd think he would walk around with his face in full view so as to kill anybody who happens to glance his way.
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*** Chief Justice Fargo would have been a "current judge" at the time of the hearing.
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*** The system may only have current judges on file, either because it's new or because it looks through the recent records first and doesn't check for multiple matches (the cloning being a secret here).
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*** There can be and there are "Happy Dredd" stories - they tend to be the short episodes rather than the great dramatic mega-epics (for obvious reasons - it's hard to spin out The Case Of The Missing Shoe for thirty chapters), but there are plenty of tales with nary a fatality in them. Try "Everything In The Garden", "Block Court", and "Fat Fathers" for a quick sampling.
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* Early in the movie, Dredd removes his helmet and shows his face. This troper turned off the movie at that point. Dredd is not supposed to HAVE a face. Because he's not really a person. He Is The Law.
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** Also, when Chief Judge Fargo finds Dredd in the Cursed Earth, he explains how Dredd was cloned from ''his'' DNA. In that case, shouldn't the DNA sample at Dredd's trial have been identified by the computer as ''Fargo'' DNA, rather than Dredd's? Even if the DNA was modified for the cloning experiments, the findings should only suggest that the person who fired the gun belongs to one of the clones, for which Dredd would not be the only individual named. Of course, it's arguable that the council could have tampered with the findings to gain a conviction against Dredd, but nothing is done to explicitly suggest this.

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** Also, when Chief Judge Fargo finds Dredd in the Cursed Earth, he explains how Dredd was cloned from ''his'' DNA. In that case, shouldn't the DNA sample at Dredd's trial have been identified by the computer as ''Fargo'' DNA, rather than Dredd's? Even if the DNA was modified for the cloning experiments, the findings should only suggest that the person who fired the gun belongs to one of the clones, for which Dredd would not be the only individual named.on record. Of course, it's arguable that the council could have tampered with the findings to gain a conviction against Dredd, but nothing is done to explicitly suggest this.
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* Rico replaces the DNA sample being used to clone new Judges with his own, declaring with scenery-chewing glee that the resulting army will be just as crazy as him. What he doesn't seem to realize is that ''he was cloned from the exact same DNA that was already there''. He and Dredd are both clones from an earlier phase of the project, and they both have the same DNA, an important plot point that explains how Rico is able to frame Dredd for murder earlier. Rico just replaced the existing DNA with an exact copy.]] Given the quality of the movie as a whole, the writers might have realized this and [[TheyJustDidntCare just not bothered to change it]].

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* Rico replaces the DNA sample being used to clone new Judges with his own, declaring with scenery-chewing glee that the resulting army will be just as crazy as him. What he doesn't seem to realize is that ''he was cloned from the exact same DNA that was already there''. He and Dredd are both clones from an earlier phase of the project, and they both have the same DNA, an important plot point that explains how Rico is able to frame Dredd for murder earlier. Rico just replaced the existing DNA with an exact copy.]] Given the quality of the movie as a whole, the writers might have realized this and [[TheyJustDidntCare just not bothered to change it]].

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* Movie question: In the early part, before Dredd is framed, he comes to intervene in block wars to find the other Judges huddled for cover from the automatic gunfire above. He then strides down the middle of the street and declares that they are beyond the effective range of the rifles. Can weapons have an effect range when being fired straight down?
** One of the many reasons I suppress the memory of the film.
** "They're firing caseless Fletcher rounds...", as Dredd states, suggests to me that the perps are using some sort of shotgun. The sound and look of their guns backs this up to some extent. Over a large distance, caseless shotgun rounds will disperse to the point where they're not going to be a problem for an armoured Judge, despite the speed at which the shrapnel is flying.
*** Possibly Flechette rounds? In most fiction I've read, flechette rounds are highly effective in short ranges or against unarmored targets at medium range, essentially firing several razor sharp darts, however drag on the darts causes them to lose power quickly when compared to standard rounds. Real life mileage varies, with such weapons used as antipersonel weapons when dropped from planes in World War I.


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* In the early part, before Dredd is framed, he comes to intervene in block wars to find the other Judges huddled for cover from the automatic gunfire above. He then strides down the middle of the street and declares that they are beyond the effective range of the rifles. Can weapons have an effect range when being fired straight down?
** One of the many reasons I suppress the memory of the film.
** "They're firing caseless Fletcher rounds...", as Dredd states, suggests to me that the perps are using some sort of shotgun. The sound and look of their guns backs this up to some extent. Over a large distance, caseless shotgun rounds will disperse to the point where they're not going to be a problem for an armoured Judge, despite the speed at which the shrapnel is flying.
*** Possibly Flechette rounds? In most fiction I've read, flechette rounds are highly effective in short ranges or against unarmored targets at medium range, essentially firing several razor sharp darts, however drag on the darts causes them to lose power quickly when compared to standard rounds. Real life mileage varies, with such weapons used as antipersonel weapons when dropped from planes in World War I.
*Rico replaces the DNA sample being used to clone new Judges with his own, declaring with scenery-chewing glee that the resulting army will be just as crazy as him. What he doesn't seem to realize is that ''he was cloned from the exact same DNA that was already there''. He and Dredd are both clones from an earlier phase of the project, and they both have the same DNA, an important plot point that explains how Rico is able to frame Dredd for murder earlier. Rico just replaced the existing DNA with an exact copy.]] Given the quality of the movie as a whole, the writers might have realized this and [[TheyJustDidntCare just not bothered to change it]].
** Also, when Chief Judge Fargo finds Dredd in the Cursed Earth, he explains how Dredd was cloned from ''his'' DNA. In that case, shouldn't the DNA sample at Dredd's trial have been identified by the computer as ''Fargo'' DNA, rather than Dredd's? Even if the DNA was modified for the cloning experiments, the findings should only suggest that the person who fired the gun belongs to one of the clones, for which Dredd would not be the only individual named. Of course, it's arguable that the council could have tampered with the findings to gain a conviction against Dredd, but nothing is done to explicitly suggest this.

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