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** Possibly, he also wandered back through the traps to tend to them as well as any number of possible activities from the profound to the mundane. And even without the impure thought justification, it would make sense for the Grail to grant life not youth. Old age usually is associated with wisdom; one begins to appreciate things beyond themselves much more. And it's also a matter of irony; those who seek eternal youth - for the sake of youth, for power, for whatever - clearly would not be the sort of people that would appreciate the Grail. Thus those that might take advantage of it would find that eventually, what they seek took away what they wanted and gave them what they were trying to avoid; all this even without the false Grail test.
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*** Being that they never show his return trip, it's possible and likely that he could have simply shuffled his feet to help kick away the pebbles and sand. And sand would not be the worse idea since the sand would scrape the surface making it less smooth and slippery. Besides, he didn't really have any other things handy to mark the path.
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*** Note as well that turrets aren't built like a weapon you carry. There's no real trigger (it's more of a button usually). And since they're bigger and more powerful, they have a stronger recoil; the mount helps but it's still going to throw your aim off if you're not trained to shoot it properly.
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** You also have to remember, this was the 1930's; the bad old days of archaeology. Just a few years before, you had dozens of so-called archaeologists looting Egyptian tombs for gold trinkets, and using those dirty old mummies as fuel for the boiler on the ship ride home.
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** The whip was George Lucas' idea, inspired by Zorro. In-universe, it's a pretty versatile piece of equipment. It can be a rope, a harrying weapon, and there is [[http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/story.html?id=294777c1-6dc2-4ff5-a1c8-548214f80a21&k=13488 at least one report]] of a bullwhip being used as a hunting weapon.
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**** I think that troper means Hitler didnt fully trust the Wehrmacht, not the Waffen. Also, I know it's a German word, but Waffen sounds quite silly to me.
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* This may be potentiall blasphemy, but here goes. Why does he use a whip? OK RuleOfCool, and the plot contrives it so having a whip frequently comes in handy, but is their ever any concrete reason given why Indy favours a whip as a weapon? I know the intro to Last Crusade gives a pseudo origin story for the whip, but even then, how does "once used a handy whip to fend of a lion" translate into a whip becoming his IconicItem?
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** And how, furthermore, did the ''baddies'' get into the temple after Indy and his crew had already done that whole 'golden key' bit?
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** Attacking Donovan in the palace might have turned the sultan into an enemy. Would ''you'' be happy to learn that a covert organization of religious fanatics had infiltrated your personal residence and was not above murdering those they saw as a threat? The sultan has an entire fleet of cavalry, troops, and tanks at his beckon call and apparently has them trained well enough to mobilize them in a matter of days. NOT someone you want to piss off.
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** Attacking Donovan in the palace might have turned the sultan into an enemy. Would ''you'' be happy to learn that a covert organization of religious fanatics had infiltrated your personal residence and was not above murdering those they saw as a threat? The sultan has an entire fleet of cavalry, troops, and tanks at his beckon beck and call and apparently has them trained well enough to mobilize them in a matter of days. NOT someone you want to piss off.
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*** Note that when Donovan brings it up, Indy refers to it as "The Arthur legend." He clearly doesn't think it has any Biblical provenance and is a load of Chivalric hogwash.
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** Attacking Donovan in the palace might have turned the sultan into an enemy. Would ''you'' be happy to learn that a covert organization of religious fanatics had infiltrated your personal residence and was not above murdering those they saw as a threat? The sultan has an entire fleet of cavalry, troops, and tanks at his beckon call and apparently has them trained well enough to mobilize them in a matter of days. NOT someone you want to piss off.
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** Just because the Ark of the Covenant really existed and really contained the power of God doesn't mean the Holy Grail was real. After all, the legend of the Ark stems from the actual text of the Hebrew Bible, whereas the Holy Grail legend has no known Biblical basis, doesn't appear in writing until the 12th century (IIRC), and could very well have started as an old pagan legend that was adopted and Christianized by medieval Europeans, much like All Hallow's Eve. It could very well be that while the Ark of the Covenant was real, the legend of the Holy Grail was simply a bit of fantasy dreamed up by the overactive imagination of some medieval parish priest to inspire his flock.
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** Well, remember that the Grail was always his dad's thing, and at this point he still sort of resented it. Even if, rationally, he should be taking it seriously, he probably still thinks of it as, "That damned fool thing Dad obsessed over."
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** Isn't there a chance he could have hit Ox with the gun?
** Same reason that Indy and Marion get married, and there's almost a PassingTheTorch moment with Mutt: closure. Nuff said.
**** Hitler didn't trust the Waffen-SS? Didn't they start off as his own private bodyguard? I may be wrong, but wasn't their first divison '''named''' ''Adolf Hitler''?
** WhatMeasureIsAMook? By the standards of the [=1930s=] and [=1940s=] serials that Indiana Jones is based on, not much.
** WhatMeasureIsAMook? By the standards of the [=1930s=] and [=1940s=] serials that Indiana Jones is based on, not much.
** Maybe they fought ViewersAreMorons are that they needed to hammer the name home so people would actually understand why it's so important Mutt's real name is Henry.
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* In ''The Last Crusade'', when Indy is told that the Holy Grail exists (and that it grants eternal life), Indy is doubtful and pretty condescending to Donovan when talking about it. Yet in ''Raiders'', he learns that the Ark of the Covenant not only exists, but '''contains the spirit of God Himself'''. At this point, what are the chances of the Holy Grail being real? 100%?
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*** I've just seen that scene, and it still makes no sense. Maybe Indy cut his jacket by accident?
* In ''The Last Crusade'', when Indy is told that the Holy Grail exists (and that it grants eternal life), Indy is doubtful and pretty condescending to Donovan when talking about it. Yet in ''Raiders'', he learns that the Ark of the Covenant not only exists, but '''contains the spirit of God Himself'''.At this point, what are the chances A healthy amount of the Holy Grail cynicism is a good thing, especially for an archaeologist, but when you have proof a divine being real? 100%?exists, shouldn't you take any Judeo-Christian relic that claims to have supernatural powers seriously?
* In ''The Last Crusade'', when Indy is told that the Holy Grail exists (and that it grants eternal life), Indy is doubtful and pretty condescending to Donovan when talking about it. Yet in ''Raiders'', he learns that the Ark of the Covenant not only exists, but '''contains the spirit of God Himself'''.
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* In ''The Last Crusade'', when Indy is told that the Holy Grail exists (and that it grants eternal life), Indy is doubtful and pretty condescending to Donovan when talking about it. Yet in ''Raiders'', he learns that the Ark of the Covenant not only exists, but '''contains the spirit of God Himself'''. At this point, what are the chances of the Holy Grail being real? 100%?
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*** Indiana Jones is the TropeNamer [[IndyPloy for flimsy plans]]
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** Most Germans were Catholic - Hitler himself was an alter boy and still considered himself Catholic late in the war (he has in fact never been excommunicated so the Vatican still considers him to be a Catholic as well). Think of what the Catholic Church taught about the Jews for almost 2000 years. Yes, they WERE God's chosen people until Jesus came along and they betrayed and killed him. The official Catholic doctrine was that the Catholic Church was now the only way to God and the only true faith therefore any relic of the God of the old testament would be a boon to a Catholic country and its armies - not to Jews. To me, it makes less sense that Beloche would attempt to perform a Jewish ceremony.
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***This troper never really questioned it, just assumed Belloq was more or less sincere (or at least genuinely thought it was a just a "say the secret word and the duck will come down" situation where all he had to do was wear the right hat and say the right lines to make the magic box work) while the Nazis justified it to themselves as taking the ritual to use the Ark "back" as its rightful owners, as THEY are obviously the rightful rulers of the world and Jews are just underhanded Christ-killing subhumans who aren't entitled to ritual pomp and circumstance. That or they viewed it as just another way to mock Judaism. (Toth obviously finds the entire situation hysterically funny.) In that light, Dietrich's discomfort looks more like he's starting to suspect they're making a horrible, horrible mistake.
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***This is true. In the case of the Nazis, at least, it seems more likely most troops used would be from the Waffen-SS than the Wehrmacht, which Hitler never fully trusted (and [[{{Valkyrie}} as demonstrated later]] for good reason.)
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** The Jones family could have emigrated to Scotland at some point in the past, then emigrated again to the US more recently.
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** IIRC, it was because something bad was about to happen outside the van, ie, it was nothing to do with the ropes. Indy was hurrying up to untie everyone else before the disaster happened. I can't remember what happened, though. I'll have to watch that scene again.
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**** It's also a painfully selective metal attractant. Gunpowder and shotgun balls? Attracts. Gold coins? Attracts. Ceiling mounted warehouse light fixtures? Attracts. A knight's armor? Nope, easily pull that off the skull-once the gold coin told you it was there. The truck you're using to take it out of the warehouse? No problem, no apparent difficulty in taking the crate out later.
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**** That's black powder, which hasn't been used in any significant degree in firearms for more than a century.
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* In KOTCS in the scene where they're being taken through the Amazon in the back of a van, Shia tosses Indy a knife to cut his ropes with. Indy works the Knife down to his hands and cuts the ropes. Then he looks at Shia who asks if he got the ropes cut. We hear a tearing sound and they both look at each other. Shia says "Oh shit," and then Indy proceeds to get up and cut the rest of them loose.
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* In KOTCS in the scene where they're being taken through the Amazon in the back of a van, Shia tosses Indy a knife to cut his ropes with. Indy works the Knife down to his hands and cuts the ropes. Then he looks at Shia who asks if he got the ropes cut. We hear a tearing sound and they both look at each other. Shia says "Oh shit," and then Indy proceeds to get up and cut the rest of them loose. \n This really confuses me. What was the tearing sound? What went wrong to prompt an "Oh shit?" It's followed directly by Indy getting up and cutting everyone loose with no problems.
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* In KOTCS, no one ever refers to Indy as "Indy." Maybe once or twice, but for the majority of the film he's going by his real name. I understand that it's meant to show he's matured and gotten over his issues with his dad, but it just kinda bugs me. It would have helped sell the movie a little better, I think, if Indiana Jones had actually been referred to as Indiana Jones.
* In KOTCS in the scene where they're being taken through the Amazon in the back of a van, Shia tosses Indy a knife to cut his ropes with. Indy works the Knife down to his hands and cuts the ropes. Then he looks at Shia who asks if he got the ropes cut. We hear a tearing sound and they both look at each other. Shia says "Oh shit," and then Indy proceeds to get up and cut the rest of them loose.
This really confuses me. What was the tearing sound? What went wrong to prompt an "Oh shit?" It's followed directly by Indy getting up and cutting everyone loose with no problems.
* In KOTCS in the scene where they're being taken through the Amazon in the back of a van, Shia tosses Indy a knife to cut his ropes with. Indy works the Knife down to his hands and cuts the ropes. Then he looks at Shia who asks if he got the ropes cut. We hear a tearing sound and they both look at each other. Shia says "Oh shit," and then Indy proceeds to get up and cut the rest of them loose.
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***But that's funny in its own way. The castle is not really guarded or anything, they can just approach it without anyone knowing and the only one stopping them is the old servant. Think about it. If the CIA for example had a secret project which needed a headquarters with maps and movable pieces for the maps, surely you'd find a secure location and guard it from all intrusions and if on American soil, just use any of the prepared premises already existing, instead of going to a rundown mansion in the Ozarks and hiding out in one of the basements. Remember, they're in their own country. It just seems that Nazis have a natural instinct to burrow into secret HQ-bases in old castles.
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** Remember what Henry Sr. says after they've all escaped: "Elsa never really believed in the Grail. She just thought she'd found a prize." So extrapolate from that. Elsa was trying to reach the Grail because of her personal greed, and ended up paying the price when she refused to give Indy her other hand even though he was all but begging her to. Indy, on the other hand, wanted to save the Grail because it was the culmination of his father's lifetime of work, but he willingly abandoned it when his father proved that he at long last respected his son. While Indy and Elsa both made the same mistake, Indy at least made it for a noble reason, and therefore was spared. Consider also that the bond between Indy and his father was a ''lot'' stronger than the bond between himself and Elsa; Elsa may have loved Indy, but she loved the Grail more. Indy gave up the Grail because he realized that neither he nor his father needed it any longer; they'd finally found the bond that they'd been missing all of Indy's life. It's touches like this that turn a merely adequate scene into a truly beautiful one.
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** Just because people know you're there doesn't mean you want them knowing what you're doing. The Nazis might well have had an open garrison stationed at the castle, but whatever they were doing in that room was obviously something they wanted kept secret.
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** It wasn't anywhere near Cairo. When Marion goes to flee from his tent, Belloq tells him that the desert is "Three weeks in every direction." True, he may have been bluffing, but then Indy has that long, protracted fight scene with the Nazi convoy on it's way to the Cairo airfield so it was clearly a significant drive.
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***The UK declared war on Germany after their invasion of Poland in september 1939.
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*This is a thing which I actually like in the Last Crusade, but it always kinda bugs me in a funny way. The movie is set in 1938, and it seems by the weather and surroundings that it is summer in Austria, when they infiltrate that castle. Austria was annexed by Germany in march of 1938. So why is there a cartoonish secret planning facility and base hidden in the castle? Who are theyu hiding it from and why. They could easily have an open garrison there, or have such facilities in Vienna or anywhere. Its just so funny that ThoseWackyNazis just want to have hidden lairs even if they don't have any need for them.
