History Headscratchers / IndianaJones

15th May '16 2:10:28 PM CrypticMirror
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* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college or at the dinner scene in Temple of Doom? While he does put them on to translate the Latin text in Donovan's house at the beginning of the Last Crusade, he doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work during the whole series and he seems to be able to calculate distances. Plus he's not a particularly bad shooter without them, so we can infer he's got no sight problems. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. Moreover, he doesn't wear glasses when he's a lot older during the whole Crystal Skull film. So, why would he use the glasses?

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* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college or at the dinner scene in Temple of Doom? While he does put them on to translate the Latin text in Donovan's house at the beginning of the Last Crusade, he doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work during the whole series and he seems to be able to calculate distances. Plus he's not a particularly bad shooter without them, so we can infer he's got no sight problems. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. Moreover, he doesn't wear glasses when he's a lot older during the whole Crystal Skull film. So, why would he use the glasses?glasses?
** Maybe they are just his BrainySpecs to make him seem more distinguished, respectable and Professor-like? A bit of staid respectability seldom hurts an academic career.
15th May '16 10:39:06 AM ritzoreo
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* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college or at the dinner scene in Temple of Doom? While he does put them on to translate the Latin text in Donovan's house at the beginning of the Last Crusade, he doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work during the whole series and he seems to be able to calculate distances plus a decent shooter without them, so we can infer he's got no sight problems. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. Moreover, he doesn't wear glasses when he's a lot older during the whole Crystal Skull film. So, why would he use the glasses?

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* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college or at the dinner scene in Temple of Doom? While he does put them on to translate the Latin text in Donovan's house at the beginning of the Last Crusade, he doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work during the whole series and he seems to be able to calculate distances plus distances. Plus he's not a decent particularly bad shooter without them, so we can infer he's got no sight problems. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. Moreover, he doesn't wear glasses when he's a lot older during the whole Crystal Skull film. So, why would he use the glasses?
15th May '16 10:33:53 AM ritzoreo
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* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college? He doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work and he seems to be able to calculate distances plus a decent shooter without them. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. So, why would he use the glasses?

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* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college? He college or at the dinner scene in Temple of Doom? While he does put them on to translate the Latin text in Donovan's house at the beginning of the Last Crusade, he doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work during the whole series and he seems to be able to calculate distances plus a decent shooter without them.them, so we can infer he's got no sight problems. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. Moreover, he doesn't wear glasses when he's a lot older during the whole Crystal Skull film. So, why would he use the glasses?
15th May '16 1:31:05 AM ritzoreo
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** Considering what RealLife archaeologists were doing to each other and to locals back in The Twenties and [TheThirties Thirties]], Jones' good standing among his peers may be FairForItsDay.

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** Considering what RealLife archaeologists were doing to each other and to locals back in The Twenties TheTwenties and [TheThirties [[TheThirties Thirties]], Jones' good standing among his peers may be FairForItsDay.
15th May '16 1:30:32 AM ritzoreo
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** Considering what RealLife archaeologists were doing to each other and to locals back in The Twenties and [TheThirties Thirties]], Jones' good standing among his peers may be FairForItsDay.
15th May '16 1:00:16 AM ritzoreo
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*** Also, Indiana Jones ''did'' return the Sankara stones, or at least one of them. Whereas mercenary Indiana could have given them to the Indian government (or, more likely, somewhere more likely to make him famous), he chose to give it back to the village it came from. Honestly, that was actually the most appropriate display of archaeological ethics he's done so far.

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*** Also, Indiana Jones ''did'' return the Sankara stones, or at least one of them. Whereas mercenary Indiana could have given them to the Indian government (or, more likely, somewhere more likely to make him famous), he chose to give it back to the village it came from. Honestly, that was actually the most appropriate display of archaeological ethics he's done so far.far.
* What's the purpose of Indy's glasses while teaching in college? He doesn't seem to need them to read while doing field work and he seems to be able to calculate distances plus a decent shooter without them. We know he's not [[ClarkKenting hiding behind them]] since everyone knows he's an archaeologist and the Nazis could never connect him to their loss of the Ark. We can also see that Jones' girl students fawn over him anyways so we may rule out that he uses glasses to shield himself from girl-lust. So, why would he use the glasses?
28th Mar '16 8:23:18 AM Rubber_Lotus
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** At least one source indicates that fellow whip-user Catwoman does it because few people know how to use a whip effectively, so there's less chance of an enemy turning it against her. Maybe Indy follows the same logic?
3rd Jan '16 10:27:30 PM CharlesPhipps
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*** Indiana Jones is ''kind of'' a respected archaeologist. We get a flat-out statement in ''Temple of Doom'' that Indiana Jones has a reputation and it's not all that good. Given he engages in what would blatantly be considered black-marketeering, grave-robbery, and outright theft today--it's no wonder. Remember, Indiana Jones started as an {{Antihero}} in Raiders. He's also fairly decent at getting small jobs done (as we see with, "They're good pieces, Marcus.") but the big history-making scores elude him. Honestly, Indy's {{Greed}} is his tragic flaw as finding the ashes of a Chinese Emperor would be enough for most people but he wanted the Peacock's Eye more.

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*** Indiana Jones is ''kind of'' a respected archaeologist. We get a flat-out statement in ''Temple of Doom'' that Indiana Jones has a reputation and it's not all that good. Given he engages in what would blatantly be considered black-marketeering, grave-robbery, and outright theft today--it's no wonder. Remember, Indiana Jones started as an {{Antihero}} in Raiders. He's also fairly decent at getting small jobs done (as we see with, "They're good pieces, Marcus.") but the big history-making scores elude him. Honestly, Indy's {{Greed}} is his tragic flaw as finding the ashes of a Chinese Emperor would be enough for most people but he wanted the Peacock's Eye more.more.
*** Also, Indiana Jones ''did'' return the Sankara stones, or at least one of them. Whereas mercenary Indiana could have given them to the Indian government (or, more likely, somewhere more likely to make him famous), he chose to give it back to the village it came from. Honestly, that was actually the most appropriate display of archaeological ethics he's done so far.
3rd Jan '16 10:25:51 PM CharlesPhipps
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* I always found it odd that Idiana being a highly sucessful and respected Archeologist was more of an informed attribute than anything, at least going by his success rate on the movies. In Raiders, he lost the golden idol to Belloq, and while he does return witht he Ark, that was never made public. In Temple, he fails to return with the Sankara stones. In Last Crusade, he gets his only real hit by returning the golden cross of Coronado, but by the end of the movie the Grail and everything involved to it was lost. And finally, in Crystal Skull, he once again fails to return with the titular Macguffin.
** To be fair, there's probably oodles of successful digs and priceless historical finds and reputation-making discoveries to Indy's credit that we ''don't'' see, but since they no doubt offer less opportunity for punching Nazis and running away from supernatural beings, there's also a reason why we don't see any of them. Plus, with regards to the very first example, it's less that he 'lost' the golden idol and more that Belloq shamelessly stole it from him.

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* I always found it odd that Idiana being a highly sucessful successful and respected Archeologist archaeologist was more of an informed attribute than anything, at least going by his success rate on the movies. In Raiders, he lost the golden idol to Belloq, and while he does return witht he Ark, that was never made public. In Temple, he fails to return with the Sankara stones. In Last Crusade, he gets his only real hit by returning the golden cross of Coronado, but by the end of the movie the Grail and everything involved to it was lost. And finally, in Crystal Skull, he once again fails to return with the titular Macguffin.
** To be fair, there's probably oodles of successful digs and priceless historical finds and reputation-making discoveries to Indy's credit that we ''don't'' see, but since they no doubt offer less opportunity for punching Nazis and running away from supernatural beings, there's also a reason why we don't see any of them. Plus, with regards to the very first example, it's less that he 'lost' the golden idol and more that Belloq shamelessly stole it from him.him.
*** Indiana Jones is ''kind of'' a respected archaeologist. We get a flat-out statement in ''Temple of Doom'' that Indiana Jones has a reputation and it's not all that good. Given he engages in what would blatantly be considered black-marketeering, grave-robbery, and outright theft today--it's no wonder. Remember, Indiana Jones started as an {{Antihero}} in Raiders. He's also fairly decent at getting small jobs done (as we see with, "They're good pieces, Marcus.") but the big history-making scores elude him. Honestly, Indy's {{Greed}} is his tragic flaw as finding the ashes of a Chinese Emperor would be enough for most people but he wanted the Peacock's Eye more.
7th Dec '15 6:16:52 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** Maybe, but the point is that the creator nevertheless needs to put the work in to justify why the reader should apply WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, which ''Crystal Skull'' doesn't really do in respect to the fridge. Okay, the movie is intended as a homage of 1950s science fiction, but that doesn't mean the creators can just throw in any old nonsense and expect the reader to buy it without setting it up beforehand. That's just laziness, especially since the audience for an ''Indiana Jones'' flick isn't necessarily going to be intimately familar with 1950s science fiction.

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*** Maybe, but the point is that the creator nevertheless needs to put the work in to justify why the reader should apply WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, which ''Crystal Skull'' doesn't really do in respect to the fridge. Okay, the movie is intended as a homage of 1950s science fiction, but that doesn't mean the creators can just throw in any old nonsense and expect the reader to buy it without setting it up beforehand. That's just laziness, especially since the audience for an ''Indiana Jones'' flick isn't necessarily going to be intimately familar familiar with 1950s science fiction.
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