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** Incest is not strictly limited to the gods but tends to be constructed as shameful among humans, Oedipus being the most famous example. The myth of Adonis's conception is another case, with his mother Myrrha, being transformed into a myrrh tree for seducing her father.
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***** Hecate, like other possible claimants like Erebus and Nyx, are tertiary gods who figure directly in few myths. Eris, on the other hand, both figures in one prominent myth (the golden apples marked "For the Fairest" which ultimately triggered the Trojan War) and spreads discord for its own sake (admittedly, in that myth, she was overreacting to being snubbed of a wedding invitation). Sounds akin to a goddess of evil to me.
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**** (God of Evil? Are we forgetting Hecate here? Actual goddess of witchcraft? Dionsysus is the god of decadence and stupidity, she's the one in charge of evil.)
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*** No. Read the Iliad. He's a right moaner and loves battle to an...unseemly degree. It's a negative portrayal as he's on the Trojan's side (contrast the portrayal of Apollo, who's also pro-Trojan but gets none of the bashing.)
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*** No. Read the Iliad. He's a right moaner and loves battle to an...unseemly degree. It's a negative portrayal as he's on the Trojan's side (contrast the portrayal of Apollo, who's also pro-Trojan but gets none of the bashing.bashing Homer gives Ares.)
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*** A specific example of their misfortune: Laius rapes a Spartan prince, he's then cursed and Oedipus is cursed because of him (sins of the father and all that). It's all rather unfair. Oedipus' poor sprogs are cursed due to his actions, which were caused by the cursing of his father. Every case is connected somehow. Their family is too big and too varied to have one single source of misfortune, but there's causation at work.
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*** No. Read the Iliad. He's a right moaner and loves battle to an...unseemly degree. It's a negative portrayal as he's on the Trojan's side (contrast the portrayal of Apollo, who's also pro-Trojan but gets none of the bashing.)
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** Firstly, SAPPHO. The really famous lesbian Greek poet? Secondly, the real answer as to why there are no lesbians is really simple. Who was in charge in Greek society? The men. Therefore, who wrote the myths, histories etc? The men. They were all busy having gaytimes with each other, and women were regarded as inferior anyway, so their lesbian relationships were likely hardly known, let alone written down to be preserved throughout the centuries. Greeks considered male homosexuality as wonderful and a benefit to society, so it was recorded and used in myths. Women simply weren't regarded well enough to have their gayness remembered.
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**** Aphrodite too, and she complains about it. They can be injured, they just can't die.
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** Sophocles' ''Theater/OedipusAtColonus'' is probably the closest you'll come in the classical corpus.
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** Sophocles' ''Theater/OedipusAtColonus'' ''Theatre/OedipusAtColonus'' is probably the closest you'll come in the classical corpus.
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*** 1. He won Persephone over on his own after the initial kidnapping--which is ''never'' described as an "[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean abduction]]" in the original myths--by lavishing gifts on her and eventually [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy letting her go back to her mother when he realized she was genuinely homesick]]
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*** 1. He won Persephone over on his own after the initial kidnapping--which is ''never'' described as an "[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean abduction]]" "abduction" in the original myths--by lavishing gifts on her and eventually [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy letting her go back to her mother when he realized she was genuinely homesick]]
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**** Not necessarily. One of the major Spartan centers of worship was a shrine to Athena of the Bronze Horse. Also, Athenians didn't worship Athena to the exclusion of others. She was important to them but they still worshiped the others.
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** Prometheus's liver was a specific part of his punishment, not because of any HealingFactor the gods naturally have. The gods are ''quite'' capable of being injured and wounded, and need medical attention like anyone else would. In TheIliad, Ares is at one point wounded by an entirely mortal warrior's entirely mundane spear and has to retreat back up to Olympus to be healed.
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** Prometheus's liver was a specific part of his punishment, not because of any HealingFactor the gods naturally have. The gods are ''quite'' capable of being injured and wounded, and need medical attention like anyone else would. In TheIliad, Literature/TheIliad, Ares is at one point wounded by an entirely mortal warrior's entirely mundane spear and has to retreat back up to Olympus to be healed.
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** SatanicHamster: Umm, ''XenaWarriorPrincess'' and ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''?
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** SatanicHamster: Umm, ''XenaWarriorPrincess'' and ''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''?''HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys''? In those series, he's one of the more decent and respectable of the Gods.
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** Can we count Jaydes from ''Super PaperMario''?
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** Can we count Jaydes from ''Super PaperMario''?''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario''?
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**** So getting so violently drunk that you tear people limb from limb is ''[[ValuesDissonance fun]]?!''
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***I think Ares war more "everything about war ''Athens'' didn't like". Most of the mythological texts we have today, if I'm not mistaken, come from athenian authors, who worshipped, well, Athena, and opposed her to Ares. If we had mythological texts from Sparta, for instance, we would likely see Ares in a much more positive light.
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**** I heard in a version that it was Hermes, with parallels as a [[TricksterArchetype trickster god]], who [[{{Jerkass}} gave]]Pandora [[ForTheEvulz ultra-curiosity]]
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**** I heard in a version that it was Hermes, with parallels as a [[TricksterArchetype trickster god]], who [[{{Jerkass}} gave]]Pandora gave]] Pandora [[ForTheEvulz ultra-curiosity]]
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**** I heard in a version that it was Hermes, with parallels as a [[TricksterArchetype trickster god]], who [[{{Jerkass}} gave]]Pandora [[ForTheEvulz ultra-curiosity]]
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*** That goes back to the idea of keeping the bloodline "pure." You can't be breeding with humans to make gods, [[YouFailBiologyForever that'll taint the genes]].
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Isn\'t stated ANYWHERE in mythology and is pretty much pulled from the user\'s ass
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*** Ares slept on sheets made from the skins of his enemies, and by enemies, I mean any humans involved in a battle. This is the god who went onto battlefields and killed everybody, no matter what the sides were. He lives to kill stuff. That is damn evil.
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** Sophocles' Oedipus at Colonus is probably the closest you'll come in the classical corpus.
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** Sophocles' Oedipus at Colonus ''Theater/OedipusAtColonus'' is probably the closest you'll come in the classical corpus.
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**** In some myths, the gods gain their divinity by eating ambrosia and drinking nectar.
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**** In some myths, the gods gain their divinity by eating ambrosia and drinking nectar.nectar - such as Psyche (who was originally totally mortal, until Eros fell in love with her)
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** This troper heard in one version of the myth, the hydra would bite off any of its own heads that were FUBAR'd so that they could grow back again.
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***** Not necessarily. Hercules traveled on the Argo together with Laertes, Odysseus' father. So that'd make Hercules older than Odysseus, who is older than Helen, another one of Zeus' children.
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** [[Tradewinds Tradewinds: Odyssey]] Hades is a pretty cool guy and helps out the main character in one of the storylines.
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** [[Tradewinds Tradewinds: Odyssey]] Hades is a pretty cool guy and helps out the main character in one of the storylines.
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** We all die by being squished between the two.
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** Don't know if this is what you were looking for, but in ''The Frogs'' he is portrayed as spooky but ultimately not evil. Of course, ''The Frogs'' was actually written in Ancient Greece, SoYeah...
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** Don't know if this is what you were looking for, but in ''The Frogs'' he is portrayed as spooky but ultimately not evil. Of course, ''The Frogs'' was actually written in Ancient Greece, SoYeah...Greece.
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**** In Glaucon's case, he was a fisherman who ate an herb that made him a [[OurMermaidsAreDifferent mer man]] and immortal, and later had Oceanus and Tethys give him the rank of god. So it may be a combination of genetics and rank (which may itself confer power?).
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**** In Glaucon's Glaucus' case, he was a fisherman who ate an herb that made him a [[OurMermaidsAreDifferent mer man]] merman]] and immortal, and later had Oceanus and Tethys give him the rank of god. So it may be a combination of genetics and rank (which may itself confer power?).
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**** In Glaucon's case, he was a fisherman who ate an herb that made him a [[OurMermaidsAreDifferent mer man]] and immortal, and later had Oceanus and Tethys give him the rank of god. So it may be a combination of genetics and rank (which may itself confer power?).
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**** In some myths, the gods gain their divinity by eating ambrosia and drinking nectar.
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*** Probably Sappho that was mentioned above. Your source is probably confused.
