History Headscratchers / GhostTrick

* This one pertains to the ending. After [[spoiler: everyone goes back in time and keeps Yomiel from being killed by the fragment]], Mino is still poised to kill Lynee. So [[spoiler: Yomiel possesses his own body to throw Lynne out of the way, getting himself crushed under the rock.]] My question is why he didn't just possess Lynee. It would have saved [[spoiler: himself ]] a lot of pain.

** It appeared to be [[spoiler:stationed at an underwater dock]] each time, in a manner that could plausibly allow for attaching of actual lines. It's inefficient, but you know what they say about that country's use of technology.

* It appeared to be [[spoiler:stationed at an underwater dock]] each time, in a manner that could plausibly allow for attaching of actual lines. It's inefficient, but you know what they say about that country's use of technology.

* Early on, how do you follow telephone lines [[spoiler: into a submarine]]? It looks like you can only follow the physical telephone lines; being able to travel along a telephone broadcast signal would be way beyond anything you're ever shown as capable of.

* Early on, how do you follow telephone lines [[spoiler: into a submarine?]] It looks like you can only follow the physical telephone lines; being able to travel along a telephone broadcast signal would be way beyond anything you're ever shown as capable of.

** It was mentioned that the cat [[spoiler:had been shot and killed some time before it had been possessed (there was enough time between it being shot and its possession that Yomiel was shot a second time (with Lynne holding back as long as she could) and Yomiel coordinating himself to possess the cat. It's possible that by the time said possession happened, the bleeding had just stopped because the blood was no longer circulating. If the bullet wound wasn't noticeable and the cat was clearly walking around fine, Sissel and Lynne would probably worry more about the tasks at hand than closely examining a stray cat. Either that, or the possession somehow miraculously healed the body.]]

*** It didn't get the fragment until the end of the game. It was merely exposed to radiation, which was never stated to have that quality. At this point, my best theory is that this story takes place in a world where BloodlessCarnage is a fact of life and goes unquestioned, but that contradicts the visible blood in ''Ace Attorney''.

*** Nope, the wound would have healed right up, thanks to the temsik fragment.

*** It should have been bloody, considering mere minutes had passed.

I'd also like to point out that while he did [[spoiler:take Lynne hostage before he went nuts, he was clearly panicked and desperate at the time, and it's never made clear whether or not he actually would have harmed her. "Tried to point a gun at her", yes, but shot her? Probably not, considering even Yomiel-prime, without any knowledge (yet) of the averted future, says that he was glad that he'd saved her. Again, taking a child hostage is ''[[{{Understatement}} not okay]]''. But there's still a huge difference between "taking hostage" and "killing".]]

** If you saw a cat meow at you, would you look for a bullet wound?

* Soon after Sissel saves Lynne, they come across a black cat, who meows at them and leaves. [[spoiler:How did they not notice that the cat had been shot?]]

* Why, exactly, do the switches work (in the way the game shows them to) after being switched around in their sockets (twice)? I realize that Missile's power is to completely replace things that look the same from the same angle (the source of another Headscratchers entirely, but I digress...) but that doesn't explain why moving the same switch between two different sockets affect the same torpedo bay. If, for example, the two switches control readying, then loading and firing respectively, then why weren't both torpedos launched with the rat puzzle?

* The superintendent built a replica of the RobinsonGoldbergContraption [[spoiler:to figure out how it could have malfunctioned the way it did]]. Did he ''really'' have to load the gun?

* Why is [[spoiler:Yomiel]] portrayed as sympathetic? [[spoiler:Sure he is given a tragic backstory and has had a pretty shitty life. Sure he expresses regret for taking Lynne hostage and yes he loves his cat, but lest we forget some of the sympathetic things he did: he murders a 5 year old girl's mother in front of her and makes her think she did it, he possesses a 10 year old girl and ''tries to make her kill her own father'', he actually succeeds in cold-bloodedly killing her in her own apartment as we see in the alternate timeline. And this is just what he does to Kamila! What's more, he shows no remorse until he's been stabbed in the back. But because he's not had a nice life, the entire last hour of the game is dedicated to making him a sympathetic character, and even the last image of the game is a TearJearker image of him drawing a picture of his precious cat. The actions I mentioned are MoralEventHorizon by most people's standards, no matter how crap your life has been. I'm getting DejaVu to a similar glossing-over-of-a-villain's-faults in the last case of Trials and Tribulations.]]

** You can't exert enough physical force to overcome any significant resistance. You can only move the shirt because it's lightweight. You only hitch a ride on the bulletproof vests, you can't unbuckle them or use them to push the guards around.

** RuleOfCool. Say what you want about [[spoiler:Yomiel, but you can't deny that the guy's got ''style'']].

** Missile didn't know what a kidnapping was. I thought that Sissel didn't really understand it either, [spoiler:being a cat and all.]

** Okay, I haven't played the game in a while, so I'm probably remembering things wrong, but I think I just assumed he was too ignorant to really understand what a [[spoiler:kidnapping]] was supposed to be. Missile didn't know either.

** RuleOfCool. Say what you want about [[spoiler:Yomeil, but you can't deny that the guy's got ''style'']].

** It's pretty much stated that [[spoiler:Yomeil had totally lost it. He'd careened over the DespairEventHorizon essentially from the moment he walked out of the morgue and discovered what had happened to him. Things ''[[ItGotWorse went downhill from there]]'', and it took five years of steadily growing despair and loneliness before he took action against those he'd decided were responsible for his pain. That doesn't mean anything he did was anywhere ''near'' the realm of okay. Once Lynne snaps him back to sanity and he has a HeelFaceTurn, he himself says this straight out]].

--->[[spoiler:'''Sissel:''' [''after seeing Yomeil impaled through the back on a spike''] This fate is too painful to watch -- in every sense...]]

** (continued) He wasn't a DeathSeeker; he had simply accepted that death would be his fate. He was ''relieved'' that it had changed. Except... [[spoiler:Lynne was about to be crushed by the massive Mino, with no conceivable way to save her. Jowd, Sissel, and Missile were panicking, because there was ''nothing'' they could do. By virtue of simply not doing a damn thing, Yomeil could easily have forced Sissel to go with the plan that Yomeil had suggested: Let Lynne die, then just go back and change her past, psychological scars be damned.\\
Instead, Yomeil reminds them of [[PeoplePuppets his own power]], and promptly throws ''his own body'' into the path of the Mino to save her, believing that he would die with no chance of being brought back. He would be crushed to death, his fiancee would commit suicide ''again''... and he did it anyway.\\
Personally, while I don't think that any of that ''excuses'' him -- Yomiel himself said it best, that nothing he could do would be enough to excuse him -- I think that what he did after going back to the past, along with willingly spending ten years in jail to pay for the crimes that he still did commit in the changed timeline, ''and'' the fact that they [[EarnYourHappyEnding earned a happy ending]] and no one but the four of them would ever remember all of that suffering, it's [[{{YMMV}} conceivably]] enough to ''forgive'' him. Not forgive his actions, but to forgive Yomeil himself.]] Or at least put the past where it belongs and move on.\\

** (continued) He wasn't a DeathSeeker; he had simply accepted that death would be his fate. He was ''relieved'' that it had changed. Except... [[spoiler:Lynne was about to be crushed by the massive mino, with no conceivable way to save her. Jowd, Sissel, and Missile were panicking, because there was ''nothing'' they could do. By virtue of simply not doing a damn thing, Yomeil could easily have forced Sissel to go with the plan that Yomeil had suggested: Let Lynne die, then just go back and change her past, psychological scars be damned.\\
Instead, Yomeil reminds them of [[PeoplePuppets his own power]], and promptly throws ''his own body'' into the path of the mino to save her, believing that he would die with no chance of being brought back. He would be crushed to death, his fiancee would commit suicide ''again''... and he did it anyway.\\

I'd also like to point out that while he did [[spoiler:take Lynne hostage before he went nuts, he was clearly panicked and desperate at the time, and it's never made clear whether or not he actually would have harmed her. Again, taking a child hostage is ''[[{{Understatement}} not okay]]''. But there's still a huge difference between "taking hostage" and "killing".]]