History Headscratchers / FullmetalAlchemist

3rd May '18 8:44:40 PM OrangenChan
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* Note that Pride was [[spoiler:begging for his life when Ed destroyed his Philosopher's Stone, and Kimblee had to correct him, saying Ed wasn't that kind of person.]] The homunculi's fatal flaw is that they underestimate humans, which is what leads to them being outsmarted several times, so they probably thought Ed would cave as easily as Marcoh did if given proper incentive. They pulled the same stunt with Mustang to attempt to get him to do human trasmutation by [[spoiler:putting Hawkeye in danger.]] Even if Ed decided to go through with it, he would probably have backup from Central to , who had taken control of Briggs on Bradley's orders, and maybe even the homunculi because there is no reason for them to hide in the shadows anymore. That would probably be enough to ensure he survived the battle.

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* Note that Pride was [[spoiler:begging for his life when Ed destroyed his Philosopher's Stone, and Kimblee had to correct him, saying Ed wasn't that kind of person.]] The homunculi's fatal flaw is that they underestimate humans, which is what leads to them being outsmarted several times, so they probably thought Ed would cave as easily as Marcoh did if given proper incentive. They pulled the same stunt with Mustang to attempt to get him to do human trasmutation by [[spoiler:putting Hawkeye in danger.]] Even if Ed decided to go through with it, he would probably have backup from Central to , too, who had taken control of Briggs on Bradley's orders, and maybe even the homunculi because there is no reason for them to hide in the shadows anymore. That would probably be enough to ensure he survived the battle.



** Also, the ClarkKenting is kinda justified in that they're specifically looking for a kid "with a red coat and braid," with no other description of Ed's ''actual'' features (you'd think the [[BerserkButton height]] and gold eyes would stand out more, instance). It looks a bit silly to the audience, yeah, but it makes sense when you take that into account. (I think Ed even starts actively wearing a regular ponytail to take advantage of this for a little while.)

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** Also, the ClarkKenting is kinda justified in that they're specifically looking for a kid "with a red coat and braid," with no other description of Ed's ''actual'' features (you'd think the [[BerserkButton height]] and gold eyes would stand out more, for instance). It looks a bit silly to the audience, yeah, but it makes sense when you take that into account. (I think Ed even starts actively wearing a regular ponytail to take advantage of this for a little while.)
1st May '18 12:05:13 AM nicocoro
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** I think they refer to this, in chapter 44: "Mom is 'dead'. -- It's impossible to pull out something nonexistent from that gate..." (Translation borrowed from a scanlation because I don't own the books in English. In Japanese: "????????? -- ????????????????????????") The quotation marks are confusing. Interpret that how you like, I suppose. My dictionary translates ?? as "casualty" or "deceased".

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** I think they refer to this, in chapter 44: "Mom is 'dead'. -- It's impossible to pull out something nonexistent from that gate..." (Translation borrowed from a scanlation because I don't own the books in English. In Japanese: "????????? "母さんは「死者」だ -- ????????????????????????") 存在しない者をあの扉から引っぱり出すのは不可能だ") The quotation marks are confusing. Interpret that how you like, I suppose. My dictionary translates ?? 死者 as "casualty" or "deceased".
27th Apr '18 11:50:09 PM OrangenChan
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** That's exactly it. [[spoiler:Wrath/Bradley]] specifically explains it as the souls "fighting for dominance," and [[spoiler:Greed]] seemed to be ''expecting'' a fight, too, for whatever that's worth. [[spoiler:Ling]] was able to survive because he actively wanted [[spoiler:Greed's stone]] and was a little more aware of what he was getting into.



** In-universe RealityIsUnrealistic? There's tons of sightings everywhere, and the legendary Fullmetal Alchemist is either a rather short DudeLooksLikeALady (it's true, especially from behind...)or a giant suit of AnimatedArmor. Say you're entirely unfamiliar with the show. Just who looks more '[[{{Pun}} full metal]]'?

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** In-universe RealityIsUnrealistic? There's tons of sightings everywhere, and the legendary Fullmetal Alchemist is either a rather short DudeLooksLikeALady (it's true, especially from behind...)or ) or a giant suit of AnimatedArmor. Say you're entirely unfamiliar with the show. Just who looks more '[[{{Pun}} full metal]]'?
*** Combine this with the fact that a lot of people ''in-universe'' tend to assume that the "full metal alchemist" is Al at first, and it makes a lot of sense.
** Also, the ClarkKenting is kinda justified in that they're specifically looking for a kid "with a red coat and braid," with no other description of Ed's ''actual'' features (you'd think the [[BerserkButton height]] and gold eyes would stand out more, instance). It looks a bit silly to the audience, yeah, but it makes sense when you take that into account. (I think Ed even starts actively wearing a regular ponytail to take advantage of this for a little while.)



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* The one thing that bugs me the most about FMA is Al's armour. People are usually surprised to find out that there's no one in Al's suit of armour, but no one is surprised to see a suit or armour walking around among civilians. I mean; is it normal to wear armour outside of battle? And why would Hohenheim require a suit of armour? (we know it's his because he refers to it as his vintage armour). He was immortal post Xerxes' destruction and pre; he was a slave who was most likely not also a soldier. Rule of Funny? MST3KMantra? Better explanation?

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* The one thing that bugs me the most about FMA is Al's armour. armor. People are usually surprised to find out that there's no one in Al's suit of armour, armor, but no one is surprised to see a suit or armour armor walking around among civilians. I mean; is it normal to wear armour armor outside of battle? And why would Hohenheim require a suit of armour? (we armor? (We know it's his because he refers to it as his vintage armour).armor). He was immortal post Xerxes' destruction and pre; he was a slave who was most likely not also a soldier. Rule of Funny? MST3KMantra? Better explanation?
27th Apr '18 11:29:02 PM OrangenChan
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** Wasn't that just in the first anime though? I kept looking for coins in the manga, but I just can't see them. I suppose it is possible that Arakawa made a mistake (I'd generally say that the entire chapter reeks of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness) and that she asked the team responsible for the anime to add the coins. But if that's not the case, then, as a poster above said, it's probably easy enough, which is why there's a rule against transmutation of gold. And presumably, the Silver Alchemist also manages to transmute materials that are similar enough to silver. It's probably just that in Amestris silver isn't regarded as valuable enough to make a law against it (but it's still special enough that Comanche got the title "Silver Alchemist" for being able to transmute it.)

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** *** Wasn't that just in the first anime though? I kept looking for coins in the manga, but I just can't see them. I suppose it is possible that Arakawa made a mistake (I'd generally say that the entire chapter reeks of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness) and that she asked the team responsible for the anime to add the coins. But if that's not the case, then, as a poster above said, it's probably easy enough, which is why there's a rule against transmutation of gold. And presumably, the Silver Alchemist also manages to transmute materials that are similar enough to silver. It's probably just that in Amestris silver isn't regarded as valuable enough to make a law against it (but it's still special enough that Comanche got the title "Silver Alchemist" for being able to transmute it.)
** Yeah, I got the idea that it was less "impossible" and more just "illegal," as a couple of above tropers mentioned. Ed even says "I'm going to do something a little illegal" or something like that in the manga, iirc. So it should definitely be possible, it's just a question of whether or not it requires a lot of studying chemical makeup or other specialized knowledge or what have you to make it easier.



* In the manga, why does father waste his time trying to absorb Amestris? he clearly has a good thing going and could simply focus on accumulating more souls through the country's constant wars.

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* In the manga, why does father Father waste his time trying to absorb Amestris? he He clearly has a good thing going and could simply focus on accumulating more souls through the country's constant wars.



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* In the Manga fight between Greed and Pride, why didn't Greed just fully armoured his entire body? He can't win against Pride but he can at least act as a shield for the rest of the characters involved in the fight. His nickname is the "Ultimate Shield", after all.

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* In the Manga fight between Greed and Pride, why didn't Greed just fully armoured armored his entire body? He can't win against Pride but he can at least act as a shield for the rest of the characters involved in the fight. His nickname is the "Ultimate Shield", after all.



** Ah, that's exactly what Bugs Me. Greed cut off his ties with Father and the others, which meant that his stone can't be renewed anymore. Why doesn't he just go full-armoured the moment he encountered Pride, instead of just standing there, letting Pride getting free hits at the expense of his stone?

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** Ah, that's exactly what Bugs Me. Greed cut off his ties with Father and the others, which meant that his stone can't be renewed anymore. Why doesn't he just go full-armoured full-armored the moment he encountered Pride, instead of just standing there, letting Pride getting free hits at the expense of his stone?




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*** Yeah, this. He says it to Ed, I believe, something like he "doesn't like using it because it covers [his] handsome face."



* Envy's seeming JokerImmunity. I was a bit bugged when he/she/it is able to trick May into taking him to be "healed" after he/she/it is destroyed to the point of being in the "evil fetus" looking true form. [[spoiler: Roy]] does this again, and the presentation seems to be IfYouKillHImYouWillBeJustLikeHim, [[spoiler: especially in having Scar talk about Roy's desire for revenge as consuming like his own]]. It just bugs me because there isn't any benefit for the heroes to keep Envy alive.

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* Envy's seeming JokerImmunity. I was a bit bugged when he/she/it is able to trick May into taking him to be "healed" after he/she/it is destroyed to the point of being in the "evil fetus" looking true form. [[spoiler: Roy]] does this again, and the presentation seems to be IfYouKillHImYouWillBeJustLikeHim, [[spoiler: especially [[spoiler:especially in having Scar talk about Roy's desire for revenge as consuming like his own]]. It just bugs me because there isn't any benefit for the heroes to keep Envy alive.



** May's case could be justified by the fact that she was already reluctant to leave the group, so she was willing to take ''any'' excuse to go back, and/or Envy just realized she'd be easy to talk into it.



** Good point. I had forgotten about that scene a while back. Still, the IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim falls flat because it's simply not true.

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** *** Good point. I had forgotten about that scene a while back. Still, the IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim falls flat because it's simply not true.



** Think of it: [[spoiler: when you envy someone and hang out with people who consider said someone as much as a bug, you are likely to be the one to show more hatred for them. If you see, none of the other Homunculi treat humans as badly as Envy did]].

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** Think of it: [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when you envy someone and hang out with people who consider said someone as much as a bug, you are likely to be the one to show more hatred for them. If you see, none of the other Homunculi treat humans as badly as Envy did]].




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** Going off the above two points, Envy's basically an InferioritySuperiorityComplex taken to an extreme. Kinda like how Sloth is BrilliantButLazy and Wrath looks a lot like TranquilFury until you really examine him.



** Just a thought, but it might have something to do with Envy's shapeshifting abilities. Just like Gluttony was [[spoiler: a failed attempt to make a portal of truth]], and this had some effect on his physical form [[spoiler: i.e., his GiantEyeOfDoom]], the fact that Envy's innate ability was to shapeshift might cause their natural form to take on that of what we see. Father may not have had full control of what any of the homunculi looked like, each physical form depends on the part of Father that they were created from, except [[spoiler: Wrath and]] arguably [[spoiler: the first]] Greed, though the Ultimate Shield be this. Lust takes the form of a conventionally attractive woman, Pride takes [[spoiler: Father's original form]], Gluttony takes the form of an incredibly obese person, Sloth takes the form of an incredibly muscular person who is incredibly lazy, it may be that Envy naturally took the form of a parasite, because in some way that's what envy is. Also, Ling [[spoiler: was wrong about the homunculi being almost human. Just look at Father-the only reason Father takes Hohenheim's form is because Father already had that DNA and that form inside him. Otherwise, he'd just be a big ball of shadow.]]

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** Just a thought, but it might have something to do with Envy's shapeshifting abilities. Just like Gluttony was [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a failed attempt to make a portal of truth]], and this had some effect on his physical form [[spoiler: i.[[spoiler:i.e., his GiantEyeOfDoom]], the fact that Envy's innate ability was to shapeshift might cause their natural form to take on that of what we see. Father may not have had full control of what any of the homunculi looked like, each physical form depends on the part of Father that they were created from, except [[spoiler: Wrath and]] arguably [[spoiler: the first]] Greed, though the Ultimate Shield be this. Lust takes the form of a conventionally attractive woman, Pride takes [[spoiler: Father's original form]], Gluttony takes the form of an incredibly obese person, Sloth takes the form of an incredibly muscular person who is incredibly lazy, it may be that Envy naturally took the form of a parasite, because in some way that's what envy is. Also, Ling [[spoiler: was wrong about the homunculi being almost human. Just look at Father-the only reason Father takes Hohenheim's form is because Father already had that DNA and that form inside him. Otherwise, he'd just be a big ball of shadow.]]
*** It's completely possible that Greed's "true" form ''is'' the Ultimate Shield, since [[spoiler:we see the Ultimate Shield face talking to Ling once Greedling happens]], but that's a little fanwanky. Having another Homunculus who's non-human by "default" would make the whole thing with Envy make more sense, though. But I like the point about envy being a parasite, and you could make a similar comparison with Envy's other form in that being envious makes you monstrous.



* Why (in all the versions) did Shou Tucker experiment on [[spoiler:his daughter: with his wife]]? You could say that he was desperate to obtain results like the MadScientist he is, but later he was a State Alchemist. He could certainly have pulled enough strings to have homeless people, prisoners, or Ishvalians as guinea pigs. That would not have made him a nicer character, but experimenting on [[spoiler:his own daughter]] always seemed to be a very big IdiotBall.

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* Why (in all the versions) did Shou Tucker experiment on [[spoiler:his daughter: with his wife]]? You could say that he was desperate to obtain results like the MadScientist he is, but later he was a State Alchemist. He could certainly have pulled enough strings to have homeless people, prisoners, or Ishvalians Ishvalans as guinea pigs. That would not have made him a nicer character, but experimenting on [[spoiler:his own daughter]] always seemed to be a very big IdiotBall.



** Actually it makes perfect sense if you step back a bit. Chimerae aren't unknown to alchemists generally, as proved by Greed's Pals. But they all were humans that were "improved" by splicing them with some animals. Tucker was made famous for making an intelligent chimerae ''without'' using a human for it. [[spoiler: [[FakeUltimateHero Which he didn't.]] He had to drag Nina because he couldn't go to the higher ups and say "Hey, I want to make another non-human-based chimera. Also, can I take some war prisioners? No, these aren't related". Though now that I wrote that I have to say, using [[MoralEventHorizon Nina]] for that was pretty stupid of him. He should've grabbed some homeless guy off the street or something.]]

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** Actually it makes perfect sense if you step back a bit. Chimerae aren't unknown to alchemists generally, as proved by Greed's Pals. But they all were humans that were "improved" by splicing them with some animals. Tucker was made famous for making an intelligent chimerae ''without'' using a human for it. [[spoiler: [[FakeUltimateHero Which he didn't.]] He had to drag Nina because he couldn't go to the higher ups and say "Hey, I want to make another non-human-based chimera. Also, can I take some war prisioners? prisoners? No, these aren't related". Though now that I wrote that I have to say, using [[MoralEventHorizon Nina]] for that was pretty stupid of him. He should've grabbed some homeless guy off the street or something.]]
9th Apr '18 4:02:09 AM LeviAckerman88
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** In the original FMA series, there were shots of Al without his apron (I think they were in episode 17). The apron was already on the armor before Ed transmuted Al's soul in it so it is probably just part of the armor. Also, he would look really weird without the apron, so whoever designed the armor probably thought it would be better to add it.
23rd Mar '18 12:53:02 AM OrangenChan
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** I believe Ling explained that he would simply bring the ''possibility'' of immortality to the Emperor and to get himself in his favor, then the Emperor would likely pass shortly thereafter while waiting for supposed further research into the matter. However just stating "i has an idea fur immortality" wouldn't be enough and he needed to have something like the Philosopher's stone which was a solid lead(Or May taking back the remains of a homunculus). Alternatively, Ling returning as an immortal himself would also make him a fitting candidate for emperor.
** Also, i can't remember the exact moment, but i'm pretty sure that at one point Ling says that his goal isn't to become emperor, but to gain favor for his clan, and ''maybe'' become emperor. I could be wrong though.
** He calls himself "future Emperor of Xing" plenty of times.

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** I believe Ling explained that he would simply bring the ''possibility'' of immortality to the Emperor and to get himself in his favor, then the Emperor would likely pass shortly thereafter while waiting for supposed further research into the matter. However just stating "i has "I have an idea fur immortality" wouldn't be enough and he needed to have something like the Philosopher's stone which was a solid lead(Or lead (or May taking back the remains of a homunculus). Alternatively, Ling returning as an immortal himself would also make him a fitting candidate for emperor.
*** Yeah, pretty much this. Ling needed to bring something back that would gain him some prestige, and he wanted to make ''himself'' immortal (explaining why he [[spoiler:was so willing to fuse with Greed]]).
** Also, i I can't remember the exact moment, but i'm I'm pretty sure that at one point Ling says that his goal isn't to become emperor, but to gain favor for his clan, and ''maybe'' become emperor. I could be wrong though.
** *** He calls himself "future Emperor of Xing" plenty of times.



** I thought it was stated, at least in Brotherhood, that the Emperor of Xing was dying and they had already chosen a heir - presumably the eldest son, though given May's involvement possibly just the eldest child - but that whoever it was wasn't particularly well-liked. I think they believed that if they were to return with the secret of immortality then they'd curry favour with the rest of Xing and be elevated to heir. May or Ling, I can't remember which, does state later that the current Emperor of Xing wouldn't hesitate to use the Stone despite knowing what was in it, though, so maybe it's just discontinuity. Or maybe the whole of Xing is searching for it and they want to be the first or something. Or maybe if they got back before the death of the Emperor then perhaps they'd have had to give it to them but were searching for it for themselves.
** I've always assumed that the ''official'' mission was 'Find a source of immortality for the dying Emperor.' while the ''unofficial'' mission had 'that lasts just long enough to have you named heir.' tacked on the end. That's why Ling was still interested when Al told him about how his soul might leave the armour at any moment - if he could transfer the Emperor's soul into a suit of armour, it'd last long enough for Ling to become 'heir' and then wear out allowing him to inherit.

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** I thought it was stated, at least in Brotherhood, that the Emperor of Xing was dying and they had already chosen a heir - presumably the eldest son, though given May's involvement possibly just the eldest child - but that whoever it was wasn't particularly well-liked. I think they believed that if they were to return with the secret of immortality then they'd curry favour favor with the rest of Xing and be elevated to heir. May or Ling, I can't remember which, does state later that the current Emperor of Xing wouldn't hesitate to use the Stone despite knowing what was in it, though, so maybe it's just discontinuity. Or maybe the whole of Xing is searching for it and they want to be the first or something. Or maybe if they got back before the death of the Emperor then perhaps they'd have had to give it to them but were searching for it for themselves.
*** Yeah, if I remember right, Ling also says in the manga that the Emperor is ''so'' sick that he doubts the stone would do much for him. I'm not sure if it was ever stated that the Emperor had already chosen an heir or not, but if so that would raise the same question you asked about why someone as far down the line as May (the 17th princess) would bother trying. That would lend a lot of support to the "everyone's racing to beat each other to it, and whoever does becomes heir" idea.
** I've always assumed that the ''official'' mission was 'Find a source of immortality for the dying Emperor.' while the ''unofficial'' mission had 'that lasts just long enough to have you named heir.' tacked on the end. That's why Ling was still interested when Al told him about how his soul might leave the armour armor at any moment - if he could transfer the Emperor's soul into a suit of armour, armor, it'd last long enough for Ling to become 'heir' and then wear out allowing him to inherit.




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** Also, to address the whole "why isn't anyone surprised at Al supposedly 'wearing' armor all the time" point, it actually comes up when the brothers meet Maria and Denny. They awkwardly try to pass it off as "a hobby" of Al's, which Maria and Denny proceed to get confused over. It's a quick moment, but it does get ''some'' acknowledgement.



*** Yeah, I also assumed that this scene meant that Roy let Havoc use it, too. Granted, you have to read into it a bit, but the implication is there.



** Actually actually, he had ''several'' armors. The scene of Trish's failed ressurrection shows at least 3 different ones, as far as I recall. Also, the part when they meet again in the manga has Hohhenheim saying something like "isn't that armor part of my collection?". I always assumed he had them for purely aesthetical reasons, though.

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** Actually actually, he had ''several'' armors. The scene of Trish's failed ressurrection shows at least 3 different ones, as far as I recall. Also, the part when they meet again in the manga has Hohhenheim saying something like "isn't that armor part of my collection?". collection?" I always assumed he had them for purely aesthetical reasons, though.


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** It could be that Ed immediately jumped to the wrist dagger because the Slicers were using a sword, and if he thought about the rock shield/trap it wasn't until after he was too tired from the blood loss to do much.


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** Well... they still aren't completely "normal" humans. Most people would probably be shocked to see that their loved ones could suddenly turn into animals. It's also kind of unclear how common chimeras are. Combine all that with the fact that ''they'' just wanted to be fully human again so they could feel normal, and it's pretty reasonable that they wouldn't want to see their families yet.
17th Mar '18 2:21:16 PM rjd1922
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[[folder:Kimblee's chimeras]]
* Why did Zampano and Gerso feel they couldn't face their families again unless they became fully human? They can still take human forms, so why are they so ashamed of being chimeras?
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18th Feb '18 7:23:37 PM OrangenChan
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** Also, there's technically a difference between ''seeing'' death and actually ''killing'' someone yourself. Ed may have seen a lot of people die, but he might still be reluctant to directly kill someone if he's got other options.




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** Yeah, I just assumed that she's [[OlderThanTheyLook older than she looks]], and Mei was just drawn that way to look cuter.




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*** Pretty much this. If I remember correctly, Izumi either directly expresses relief over this or says something that comes very close to it.



* Why is the Roy Mustang/Riza Hawkeye ship known as RoyAi? It gets confusing, because Ai isn't in either Hawkeye's first or last name. Although it sounds like the last syllable in Hawkeye, but that would be RoyEye. I think RoyHawk sounds really cool.
** The word RoyAi comes from the Japanese characters of 'Roy' and 'Hawkeye' being combined, and the resulting sound is 'royai'. The correct spelling of this sound would normally be roiai, which is why occasionally you will see RoyAi refered to as RoiAi; however, most fans agree that RoyAi is a pun of Roy+Ai (the Japanese word for love).

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* Why is the Roy Mustang/Riza Hawkeye ship known as RoyAi? [=RoyAi=]? It gets confusing, because Ai isn't in either Hawkeye's first or last name. Although it sounds like the last syllable in Hawkeye, but that would be RoyEye. [=RoyEye=]. I think RoyHawk [=RoyHawk=] sounds really cool.
** The word RoyAi [=RoyAi=] comes from the Japanese characters of 'Roy' and 'Hawkeye' being combined, and the resulting sound is 'royai'. The correct spelling of this sound would normally be roiai, which is why occasionally you will see RoyAi [=RoyAi=] refered to as RoiAi; [=RoiAi=]; however, most fans agree that RoyAi [=RoyAi=] is a pun of Roy+Ai (the Japanese word for love).




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*** Yeah, it'd be one thing if he'd actually lost his legs; then maybe he would've thought about getting automail, or at least prosthetics in general. We do see him [[spoiler:starting to walk again]] at the very end of the series, but that presumably would've taken months of therapy at best, which would also likely apply to getting any kind of prosthetic.




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** Ed actually [[LampshadeHanging complains about this]], if I remember right. Also, as the first reply said, I just took the whole thing as her being a silly little kid.




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** He'd most likely at least ''thought'' about it, but held back due to the whole [[spoiler:not wanting to outlive his family]] deal. As to why he eventually changed his mind... maybe Hohenheim just got lonely over time? Or just decided that [[spoiler:having a family]] would be worth it after all.



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12th Feb '18 3:40:14 AM OrangenChan
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** No, it's perfectly possible and quite probable that her uterus was taken. She had a miscarriage or stillbirth (forget which) and ''then'' tried to resurrect the kid, making Wrath (in the anime). She had her uterus taken for seeing Truth, supported by her saying she could no longer have children. She probably also had some other organs mostly takne or mostly damaged, but if the liver, it's grown back by now, cuz livers do that.

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** No, it's perfectly possible and quite probable that her uterus was taken. She had a miscarriage or stillbirth (forget which) and ''then'' tried to resurrect the kid, making Wrath (in the anime). She had her uterus taken for seeing Truth, supported by her saying she could no longer have children. She probably also had some other organs mostly takne taken or mostly damaged, but if the liver, it's grown back by now, cuz livers do that.




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** The fact that he was desperate enough to [[spoiler:use Nina and Alexander]] in the first place kind of made it seem like he ''was'' really behind on stuff. It could be that his superiors were getting onto him and had started to realize that he wasn't as good as he said. It's a bit of a guess, but it's possible.
4th Feb '18 8:20:44 PM DarkHunter
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** Pride has his shadows constantly patrolling the tunnel that makes up the circle. It took him only a few minutes to a few seconds to find people anytime someone intruded on it. And trying to fight Pride underground, where you'd need a light source to do anything, is basically suicide.
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