History Headscratchers / DragonballGT

* Even if pilaf knew about the black star dragon balls how did he knew that piccolo and kami refused 22 years ago?

* Why wasn't piccolo at the lookout when pilaf attacked it? when we last left him in dbz piccole lived at the lookout but when GT got started he was no where to be seen. Also why didn't mr.popo or dende try to help goku fight off pilaf and get back the black star dragon balls.
* How was it that Pilaf,Shu,and Mai was able to hold Goku off long enough to summon Black Star Shenlong? I know Goku was tired after fighting ubb.but he and uub was able to heavily damage the lookout while in The Hyperbolic Time Chamber IN BASE FORM Without the need to punch dimensional holes through it like gotenk and majin buu,Yet couldn't beat pilaf and his mooks in under 30 seconds? Mr.popo alone could have handle them. as meantion before Why Mr.popo and Dende didn't try to get back the Black Star Dragonballs while Goku was fighting them? they just stood there!

** Speaking of Nappa I could have sworn he had short black almost Recoom style hair in some of the flashbacks.

** What makes this worst is when you see gt timeline and according it Rildo has been around for about 50 years.Which raises a new plot hole if Rildo and DR.myuu been around so long why didn't dr.myuu just send Rildo and the sigma team to hunt down and kill all the sayains back before planet vegeta got destroyed?

*** Actually no, it was later revealed it was indeed Baby that created Myuu and the machine mutants (all while being a fetus mind you). Myuu was actually created by Baby 50 years ago to further Baby's growth, and Baby program Myuu to believe he created Baby when it was really the other way around. Also apparently Baby put a Black star dragonball in Myuu's head 50 year ago even though they were scattered recently. I'm not even kidding GT just makes that little sense.

** Because it wasn't convienent to the plot. Or the writers forgot.

* Why wasn't Vegeta going with them on the hunt for the Black Star Dragon Balls? He's the second most powerful being on Earth, and he's also the most knowledgeable about space travel. I imagine that if he went along, things would be concluded a lot quicker due to Vegeta's willingness to kill opponents: Zoonama, the giant, Don Kee, Ledgic, the Parapara Brothers, Cardinal Mutchie Mutchie, Dolltaki would all meet their ends by getting kai blasted by Vegeta. Baby waking up to encounter Vegeta would have been interesting to see, as well as Vegeta lecturing Pan on her Sayian heritage and telling her stories about it. There was a missed opportunity for storytelling there.

** It was power based. He wasn't strong enough as a child to do it properly. He actually does IT at one point and it works.....but craps out after a few yards. His child body just couldn't properly manage the techniques he used as an adult. Same reason SS3 gave out after a few seconds. SS4 gave him his adult body back, and let him regulate his power properly.

** The Black Star Dragon Balls are the most powerful. It would suit Baby's ego to use only the most powerful ones to make his wish upon. Or he believed that Earth dragon balls weren't powerful enough to restore a distant planet that was destroyed decades ago. He may have been right, there could be a time limit on destroyed planets for all we know.

*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of him making wishes upon.

** Dende used the original dragon as a template instead of starting from scratch. In doing so he essentially just took the old Dragon Balls and made improvements to them. They are the same set, just under new management.

*** Baby's tripping on power throughout his entire saga. He probably figured that by the time the Earth explodes, he'd be well on his way to move out into the larger galaxy to conquer it. He'd either move his planet, or have ships constructed to escape the aftereffects of Earth's destruction. For all we know Baby would call the Earth Dragon Balls 'trash', and only the more powerful Black Star ones are worthy of his wishes.

* How is it that Baby vegeta and regular vegeta were able to transform when they are exposed to Blutz Wave when Vegeta don't have tails. This is necessary for a transformation at least according to Dragon ball, and Dragon ball Z. So what was the point of even pulling out Goku's tail when Saiyains can apparently transform to great apes and [=SSJ4=] even without them.

* The original Shenron died when Kami and Piccolo fused, and Dende created a new one. So why do the wishes made to the original Shenron count? Don't tell me they were made off-screen, because they explicitly mention the previous instances where they were used!

** There absolutely nothing before GT the even suggest that IT requires anymore power than turning Super Saiyan, flying, sensing ki and firing powerful ki blasts, all those abilities he also didn't have as a child either, and yet all those powers where left (for the most part) well intact. Granted IT requires more concentration since the move requires a person to be good at sensing ki. But according what fans say, Goku's ki sensing ability has improved greatly (even as a child) to the point where he can now sense robot's energy which before was impossible before. so that's really no excuse.

** Goku and friends would still need a space ship to travel and collect the balls anyway. the Dragon balls have no power levels or ways to be tracked without a dragon ball radar and goku couldn't just keep teleporting between planets if he couldn't sense anybodies power levels their or has been their before

** Shenron isn't omnipotent when it comes to making wishes. In fact, a similar wish was asked of him in Super (Tell us the location of the Super Dragon Balls) and he promptly failed to grant it, exclaiming that "space is so very vast! I'm afraid my powers are not so almighty that I can pick but one object in its boundless expanse..."

** That doesn't make any sense. Because they're stronger their battles are less intense? So why wasn't that the case when you compare ''Dragon Ball Z'' to dragon ball? By that logic the fight scenes in Dragon ball should be more intense the fights in ''Dragon Ball Z'' (which they are NOT). Seriously when [=SSJ3=] Goku fought Kid Buu the force they unleashed nearly destroy the planet. It caused earthquakes, fissures, massive craters, and it rocked the Kai's planet to its foundation, forcing them to evacuate. But in GT where SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta fought omega Shenron, they barely destroyed a city. Is that because they became stronger?

* And why couldn't Goku turn SSJ4 and escape hell with instant transmission?Seems like all of Piccolo's sacrifices were completely unnecessary and was simply done for pointless drama.

* In a series full of confusion and nonsense, perhaps the biggest question in GT is how Super Saiyan 4 managed to generate magic clothes. Forget aging Son Gokū back to adulthood, where did his original shirt go, how did the form generate completely new pants, shoes, armbands, and ''obi'', and how did he get his original clothing back when he reverted to his base state (when that crap should have been destroyed by his sudden size increase, never mind the fact that he should be naked, as he was a Giant Monkey only moments before his first transformation into the form). Vegeta isn't exempt, losing his shirt, and gaining new gloves — again, despite the fact that he'd become a Giant Monkey just moments before, and thus lost his clothes. Just....how?

*** Considering that it wasn't made by the original creator, yeah, it's not canon.

*** You're ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible so there was really no point of him dying to prevent it. All things consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.

*** You're Ignoring the fact that the Black Star Dragon Balls are completely scattered across the universe making any attempts to collect it without any knowledge of them or a dragon radar virtually impossible( the fact that Baby, The luud cult, and Parapara brother knew about them is just a plot hole since it's never explained how they knew). There's also no reason given why they couldn't just destroy the Black Star Dragonballs if they felt he were too dangerous to exist.So this whole BS ball being used by evil again is pretty unlike if not virtually impossible SO there was no point of him dying to prevent it.All, thing consider it was a completely pointless sacrifice done for the sake of drama.

** It's very possible the heroes forgot this after all they did forget it with cell as well, either way this is pointing out another issue that Z literally had to remind the heroes of it's possible they forgot that detail after relying on the Dragon Balls for so long.

Whose to say he did lose it, it's very possible that he can access it while in Super Sayian form as well, old Kai did say he wouldn't need to transform not he couldn't. Gohan's mystic energy is likely still there and a part of his Super Sayian form, there's no reason

You're amusing actually thinking this whole Goku thing didn't already happen in DBZ guess it's a testament to how stupid most of the DB fandom is. Gotenks was useless the whole build up of his character across a third of the arc amounted to him to being absorbed by Buu and then Goten and Trunks dying without a fight when Earth blew up. Gohan literally spent the whole Buu arc sitting around being powered up, after a cool display he was absorbed by Buu and died when Earth blew up he then did nothing relevant Gohan does nothing relevant for the whole Buu arc. Buu already did the whole only Goku matters you were just too blind to notice it.

The Sayian, Namek and Frieza saga did this as well just because they fought doesn't mean they weren't useless. What did Tien's sacrifice do nothing. What difference did Yamacha make in the Sayian battle nothing. What did Krillin, Gohan and Piccolo accomplish before Goku arrived nothing they were Nappa's punching bag. What did Gohan and Krillin do on Namek nothing, they hid from Vegeta and Frieza before being beaten into a pulp by the Ginyu force. Vegeta, Krilin and Gohan were Frieza's punching bag, Gohan's bursts of rage didn't mean anything. Piccolo's fusion amounted to him being target practice.

They never mattered Goku and Gohan were the only ones who actually mattered then Buu pushed Gohan aside. Vegeta was a punching bag in Z that was his purpose he goes through the exact same arc twice in the Android cell arc, the eighteen incident and the cell incident are the exact same scenario. His rage attack after Trunks was killed useless didn't accomplish anything except hindering Gohan, Vegeta's fight with 19 was the only one that made a difference in that arc. Trunks does nothing after he kills Frieza he gets beaten by the androids, ascends only for Cell to beat him, gets the beaten by Cell juniors then killed. Quit being hypocrites nothing in Z mattered by Buu Goku rendered everyone irrelevant and most of them never were to begin with, their fights were longer but they were still useless. Nothing changed Z and Super have the same problem as GT the fans are just too blind to notice it.

** AssPull people, that's the truth. They made Goku a kid because they thought DBZ was too much of serious fighting and they wanted to go back to the DB days. Then they realized it was a very bad idea, as even the audience began losing respect for Goku like Pan does, so they tried to go back to the DBZ ways. They didn't really think of any other way except to throw in Instant Age Settings and Instant Tailor for [=SSJ4=].
** Not quite the decision actually makes sense once you thi

** Dragon ball is notorious for poor handling of characters who aren't Goku, and its GT. Basically TheyJustDidntCare.

** [[ButtMonkey He's Yamcha.]]

*** So Ledgic knew Goku was a Saiyan by stereotyping him? Goku's performance in battle is not typical of a Saiyan.Remember Jeice of Ginyu force couldn't even believe that Goku was a Saiyan because of his amazing battle performance, since Saiyans rarely ever have a power level of more than 10,000 they are usual not very strong.Also Ledic stereotyping Goku would still require Ledgic to have some knowledge about Saiyan.