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** That's supported by the "Flat Chest" database entry in ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite}}.''
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** That's supported by the "Flat Chest" database entry in ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite}}.''''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite''.
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** That's supported by the "Flat Chest" database entry in ''{{Disgaea Infinite}}.''
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** That's supported by the "Flat Chest" database entry in ''{{Disgaea Infinite}}.''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite}}.''
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** In ''{{Disgaea 3}}'', the Raspberyl ending states she has a lifespan of 10,108 years, and the same game places biologically adult characters such as Big Star, Salvatore, and Mr Champloo at 2670 or so. My guess is that ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty. That theory also explains Lammington looking middle-aged at 9000-ish.
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** In ''{{Disgaea 3}}'', ''VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice'', the Raspberyl ending states she has a lifespan of 10,108 years, and the same game places biologically adult characters such as Big Star, Salvatore, and Mr Champloo at 2670 or so. My guess is that ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty. That theory also explains Lammington looking middle-aged at 9000-ish.
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* Also, Flonne seems to have the ability to change freely from fallen angel to archangel (Which at this point is still her angel trainee outfit) in {{Disgaea 3}}'s Raspberyl Mode. Speaking of time paradox, the bottlemail ending is only one ending. One of the other endings is Laharl eating Etna's pudding, which makes her quit, become a Demon Lord, and travel to another Netherworld, [[{{Disgaea 2}} Veldime]]. And then there's an entry that mentions 1000 Prinnies being sent off in search of the Ultra Dessert, but in PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero, Laharl died and became a Prinny and Etna is a Demon Lord. Then again, at the end of the AttractMode trailer, Laharl does say this:
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* Also, Flonne seems to have the ability to change freely from fallen angel to archangel (Which at this point is still her angel trainee outfit) in {{Disgaea 3}}'s ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'''s Raspberyl Mode. Speaking of time paradox, the bottlemail ending is only one ending. One of the other endings is Laharl eating Etna's pudding, which makes her quit, become a Demon Lord, and travel to another Netherworld, [[{{Disgaea 2}} [[VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories Veldime]]. And then there's an entry that mentions 1000 Prinnies being sent off in search of the Ultra Dessert, but in PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero, Laharl died and became a Prinny and Etna is a Demon Lord. Then again, at the end of the AttractMode trailer, Laharl does say this:
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**As of the release of the Guided Fate Paradox, it's shown that there are in fact multiple Celestia dimensions.
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[[WMG: Why was everyone so ridiculously afraid of Tyrant Valvatorez?]]
*Isn't is kind of strange that he was utterly infamous for being the "[[RedBaron blood-soaked king of carnage and absolute evil]]" despite not being malicious in the slightest? Did no one other than Fenrich (and even then, he was TheMole to begin with) bother actually getting to know the guy?
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* This actually has real-world parallels in oil. Take, for instance, Iran, which has less than 5% of the known global oil supply. We might even be able to get by without Iranian oil. But the stuff is limited enough overall that any news relating to Iran that might impact its ability to deliver on that oil when it counts makes gas prices jump up, and freeing of economic sanctions would make gas prices drop noticeably. The differences, of course, are that oil isn't renewable on a reasonable timescale but is stockpiled underground, whereas awe energy is renewable on a reasonable timescale but only has what is renewed at any given time, and is thus more vulernable to fluctuations in that renewal (as with real rewnewable energy sources).
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* This actually has real-world parallels in oil. Take, for instance, Iran, which has less than 5% of the known global oil supply. We might even be able to get by without Iranian oil. But the stuff is limited enough overall globally that any news relating to Iran that might impact its ability to deliver on that oil when it counts makes gas prices jump up, and freeing of economic sanctions would make gas prices drop noticeably. The differences, of course, are that oil isn't renewable on a reasonable timescale but is stockpiled underground, whereas awe energy is renewable on a reasonable timescale but only has what is renewed at any given time, and is thus more vulernable to fluctuations in that renewal (as with real rewnewable energy sources).
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* This actually has real-world parallels in oil. Take, for instance, Iran, which has less than 5% of the known global oil supply. We might even be able to get by without Iranian oil. But the stuff is limited enough overall that any news relating to Iran that might impact its ability to deliver on that oil when it counts makes gas prices jump up, and freeing of economic sanctions would make gas prices drop noticeably. The differences, of course, are that oil isn't renewable on a reasonable timescale but is stockpiled underground, whereas awe energy is renewable on a reasonable timescale but only has what is renewed at any given time, and is thus more vulernable to fluctuations in that renewal (as with real rewnewable energy sources).
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***It's canon that Etna's powerful enough to be an Overlord, but is too lazy to make it worth it. Not to mention the power upgrade she gets in Disgaea D2, which most likely puts her on the same level, if not above, Laharl and Mao. She even gets an evility titled The Lone Majin aka The Lone Demon God.
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** Honestly, all I can think of is that it discourages from making a single "Uber-unit" capable of doing anything, and more tends towards having multiple units for different situations (healing/buffs, attacking, etc...)
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* Could there have originally been just one Netherworld, but other human worlds were corrupted just like Veldime? Angels are pretty well behaved, so I can't see them invading other worlds and conquering them. Demons, however, fight like mad over who gets to be Overlord, so I can easily imagine the occasional powerful demon coming in second and saying "Fine, I'll just StartMyOwn Netherworld...[[{{Futurama}} with blackjack, and hookers]]"!
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* It could also be a question of Title, which as D3 reveals, can change you both physically and mentally. When Mao gets a hero title (even a fake one) he starts acting more heroic. When Almaz gets a demon title, he actually starts growing fangs. These changes are minor though; neither gets any alterations to their stats, and when Flonne became a demon she was basically the same person. So perhaps a well behaved demon could acquire an angelic title, and thus would be for all intents and purposes an angel, despite being the same in every other respect. Maybe a new title is what passing the test gets you.
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** Flonne: (How is she not higher? She is stated to be weaker than full Angels, you know... a GENERIC class. She would be about the same as Demon-in-training Almaz. Furthermore, she's too kind to ever fight at full power.)
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** Flonne: (How is she not higher? She is stated to be weaker than full Angels, you know... a GENERIC class. She would be about the same as Demon-in-training Almaz. Furthermore, she's too kind to ever fight at full power.) )
*** She's probably quite a bit stronger now that she's Archangel, and outranks all those full angels.
*** She's probably quite a bit stronger now that she's Archangel, and outranks all those full angels.
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** Most likely, those particular Knights/Archers happen to be Angels, not Demons.
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****** D4 reveals that they are required to talk like that. Valvatorez specifically trains them to used "dood" in every line. When he meets Kurtis he's furious that he ''doesn't'' use it, and challenges him so that he has to.
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** Adell: (Has beaten the same cameo battles as Laharl, and has a score of two loses and a win agaisnt him. His ability makes him stronger agaisnt people more powerful than him, so that fact has to count for something. Lost to Valvatorez but did however put up a pretty good fight, possibly due to Val's fire weakness)
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** Adell: (Has beaten the same cameo battles as Laharl, and has a score of two loses and a win agaisnt him. His ability makes him stronger agaisnt people more powerful than him, so that fact has to count for something. Lost to Valvatorez but did however put up a pretty good fight, possibly due to Val's fire weakness)weakness. Heavily implied to have TookALevelInBadass majorly by Disgaea 4 as he pretty caused every demon in Veldime excepting Yukimaru, Rozalin, and Fubuki to leave out of fear.)
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** Gig: Feared as a god of destruction. Even gave Valvatorez trouble.
** Valvatorez: Considered a WorthyOpponent to Zetta in his de-powered state. May potentially be as powerful as Zenon (or even Baal) in his Tyrant form.
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** Adell: (Has beaten the same cameo battles as Laharl, and has a score of two loses and a win agaisnt him. His ability makes him stronger agaisnt people more powerful than him, so that fact has to count for something...)something. Lost to Valvatorez but did however put up a pretty good fight, possibly due to Val's fire weakness)
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**** It's stated in ''{{Disgaea 4}}'', humans by definition are only at about 30% or so power when in a Netherworld. The exception is one that has conviction to the point of being delusional. ''That's'' why the Defender of Earth is effective; and by placing herself "under" Gordon; Jennifer gets that bonus too. (Gordon's pretty good against normal Demons. He unfortunately ran into the Overlord.)
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**** It's stated in ''{{Disgaea 4}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 4| A Promise Unforgotten}}'', humans by definition are only at about 30% or so power when in a Netherworld. The exception is one that has conviction to the point of being delusional. ''That's'' why the Defender of Earth is effective; and by placing herself "under" Gordon; Jennifer gets that bonus too. (Gordon's pretty good against normal Demons. He unfortunately ran into the Overlord.)
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** In the manga, at least, she could indeed use them to fly (they used it to turn a TakeMyHand moment into a FridgeLogic AntiClimax).
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* Are Rosalin's wings real, or just part of her dress? And if it's the former, does that mean she could fly if she wanted to?
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* AreRosalin's Rozalin's wings real, or just part of her dress? And if it's the former, does that mean she could fly if she wanted to?
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* Are Rosalin's wings real, or just part of her dress? And if it's the former, does that mean she could fly if she wanted to?
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****** Anything to do with tiers are titles and simply have nothing to do with species. The species is called Winged.
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***** Zetta is just as part of the storyline as Baal. You're not required to beat either of them for the main stoyline. Also, levels are a good way of judging how strong these gods are. I mean, it's not like you're going to fight Baal or Zetta at level 100 are you?
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**** But this list isn't focusing on which character wins a battle. It's focused on actions and what they say. Even though every main character(or at least Larharl) has beaten Baal, he's at top of the list.
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*I always assumed that the humanoid demons were the result of succubi trips to the human world and are really half demons.
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***** Wouldn't be so sure of that. Remember how he's able to charm Yukimaru into joining his cause (and talk her out of suicide in the process) with pretty much no effort. He may claim to not like girls, but girls seem to like him just fine.
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* Actually, the sexy devilish character is pretty much [[HornyDevils a trope in itself]], going [[OlderThanFeudalism all the way back to the satyrs of greek mythology]]. It symbolizes the attraction of sin.
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* Actually, the sexy devilish character is pretty much [[HornyDevils a trope in itself]], going [[OlderThanFeudalism all the way back to the satyrs of greek mythology]]. It symbolizes the attraction of sin.sin.
* Demons in general tend to dress in a rather {{Stripperific}} manner. Laharl is a WalkingShirtlessScene in short-shorts. When Flonne became a Fallen Angel, she took to wearing a red one-piece. Besides, it suits Etna's personality to dress that way. She may not be physically mature enough to be TheVamp, but she certainly has the right attitude.
* Demons in general tend to dress in a rather {{Stripperific}} manner. Laharl is a WalkingShirtlessScene in short-shorts. When Flonne became a Fallen Angel, she took to wearing a red one-piece. Besides, it suits Etna's personality to dress that way. She may not be physically mature enough to be TheVamp, but she certainly has the right attitude.
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**** Axel: Evidence is circumstantial, but considering his charm and that [[spoiler: his IdiotBall behaviour might be intentional]], this is pretty plausible. Not to mention to lightning bolt brows ''can't'' be natural in anyway. Axel being an incubus may also explain his director's [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean passion for his work]].
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**** Axel: Evidence is circumstantial, but considering his charm and that [[spoiler: his IdiotBall behaviour might be intentional]], this is pretty plausible. Not to mention to lightning bolt brows ''can't'' be natural in anyway. Axel being an incubus may also explain his director's [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean passion for his work]].work.
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*Presumably, D4's Human World is one part of a bigger problem. Celestia presumably needs all the awe energy they can get, and as humans advance, their fear and awe goes away from the demons/angels and towards themselves, thus they don't give as much as they used to. Considering how presumably little they get from the increasing number of advanced human worlds, even just one giving nothing would likely be enough to lead to a shortage.
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* With the characters of Disgaea 4 specifically pointing out that they're vampires and werewolves, as opposed to JUST demons, it seems to me that before this, most demons were simply "demons" without a specific species attached.
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** Demons without a specific species are probably the Netherworld equivalent to humans. That's how you get all the human-like fighters and archers and the like. They're "demons", they have pointed ears and live for several thousand years, but they don't have anything particularly special about them after that.
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** Demons without a specific species are probably the Netherworld equivalent to humans. That's how you get all the human-like fighters and archers and the like. They're "demons", they have pointed ears and live for several thousand years, but they don't have anything particularly special about them after that.
*** This probably ties into the long-running background plot point that humans, demons, and angels might be {{Main/Not So Different}}
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** This has been confirmed in the ''[[{{ptitlei5vi1q72}} Prinny: Can I Be A Hero?]] game.
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