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** Actually, Zeroken from D5 is one to.

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** Actually, Zeroken from D5 is one to.too.
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** Actually, Zeroken from is one to.
** Also Usalia from is "Wererabbit".

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** Actually, Zeroken from D5 is one to.
** Also Usalia from D5 is a "Wererabbit".
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The mentors learn from the pupils. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
* Disgaea D2 fixed that up -- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.

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* The mentors learn from the pupils. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
* ** Disgaea D2 fixed that up -- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.
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*** This probably ties into the long-running background plot point that humans, demons, and angels might be {{Main/Not So Different}}

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*** This probably ties into the long-running background plot point that humans, demons, and angels might be {{Main/Not So Different}}not so different.
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* Any more thoughts? I hope this list does not end like [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Jack Rakan's]] in its level of well... ridiculousness.

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* Any more thoughts? I hope this list does not end like [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima [[Manga/NegimaMagisterNegiMagi Jack Rakan's]] in its level of well... ridiculousness.

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** In ''VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice'', the Raspberyl ending states she has a lifespan of 10,108 years, and the same game places biologically adult characters such as Big Star, Salvatore, and Mr Champloo at 2670 or so. My guess is that ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty. That theory also explains Lammington looking middle-aged at 9000-ish.

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** In ''VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice'', the Raspberyl ending states she has a lifespan of 10,108 years, and the same game places biologically adult characters such as Big Star, Salvatore, and Mr Champloo at 2670 or so. My guess is that ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty. That theory also explains Lammington Lamington looking middle-aged at 9000-ish.



*** Beacuse passing the bill means YOU level up faster, allowing you to pass more bills by force.

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*** Beacuse Because passing the bill means YOU level up faster, allowing you to pass more bills by force.



* This actually has real-world parallels in oil. Take, for instance, Iran, which has less than 5% of the known global oil supply. We might even be able to get by without Iranian oil. But the stuff is limited enough globally that any news relating to Iran that might impact its ability to deliver on that oil when it counts makes gas prices jump up, and freeing of economic sanctions would make gas prices drop noticeably. The differences, of course, are that oil isn't renewable on a reasonable timescale but is stockpiled underground, whereas awe energy is renewable on a reasonable timescale but only has what is renewed at any given time, and is thus more vulernable to fluctuations in that renewal (as with real rewnewable energy sources).

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* This actually has real-world parallels in oil. Take, for instance, Iran, which has less than 5% of the known global oil supply. We might even be able to get by without Iranian oil. But the stuff is limited enough globally that any news relating to Iran that might impact its ability to deliver on that oil when it counts makes gas prices jump up, and freeing of economic sanctions would make gas prices drop noticeably. The differences, of course, are that oil isn't renewable on a reasonable timescale but is stockpiled underground, whereas awe energy is renewable on a reasonable timescale but only has what is renewed at any given time, and is thus more vulernable vulnerable to fluctuations in that renewal (as with real rewnewable energy sources).




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** According to official art, Rozalin's wings are indeed real.



* Disgaea D2 fixed that up--- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.

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* Disgaea D2 fixed that up--- up -- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.



* In Disgaea 1, a battle ensues when you throw a monster into your base panel, but if you throw a humanoid in, they'll just kill everyone and destroy it regardless of everyone's level or stats or even how many units you still have on reserve. How does simply being humanoid make you immune to capture?

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* In Disgaea 1, a battle ensues when you throw a monster into your base panel, but if you throw a humanoid in, they'll just kill everyone and destroy it regardless of everyone's level or stats or even how many units you still have on reserve. How does simply being humanoid make you immune to capture?capture?
** Considering later games did change it so humanoids could be captured, it was likely a programming issue.
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* Disgaea D2 fixed that up--- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.

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* Disgaea D2 fixed that up--- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.pupils.

[[WMG: How do humanoids always win when thrown into your base panel regardless of level or stats?]]
* In Disgaea 1, a battle ensues when you throw a monster into your base panel, but if you throw a humanoid in, they'll just kill everyone and destroy it regardless of everyone's level or stats or even how many units you still have on reserve. How does simply being humanoid make you immune to capture?
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* It's just GameplayAndStorySegregation. There is no mechanical difference between demons and angels, and the rune knights and archer sprites look as angelic as demonic. Since the final chapter takes place in Celestia, the developers probably figured it'd get dull if the players only had one sprite to look at.

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** Considering that the name of "Vulcanus" was but a cover, and later games have had her use her actual name, pretty safe bet to say she's gonna prefer to be called Artina.



The mentors learn from the pupils. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

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The mentors learn from the pupils. Shouldn't it be the other way around?around?
* Disgaea D2 fixed that up--- now the pupil learns from the Mentor, and Mentors can be assigned many different pupils.
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*** Celestial Host is likely a military rank, and those guys are lesser ranked angels. It's unlikely that they are demons, as at that point, officially, demons had not entered into Celestia for thousands of years.
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** Trying to attack downwards past a certain point, particularly with melee weapons, causes you to lose a LOT of force, especially if you don't want to lose your weapon.

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** Trying to attack downwards past a certain point, particularly with melee weapons, causes you to lose a LOT of force, especially if you don't want to lose your weapon.weapon.

[[WMG: Why are Mentors called Mentors and Pupils called Pupils?]]
The mentors learn from the pupils. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
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* So attack skills that relocate the enemy like Triple Strike and Hurricane Blow can't be used if the destination panel is obstructed by something (another unit, an impassible structure, the lack of a panel); fair. You also can't use them if the destination panel is too high above the target's initial position; also fair. But why can't you use these sorts of skills if the destination panel is too ''low''?

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* So attack skills that relocate the enemy like Triple Strike and Hurricane Blow can't be used if the destination panel is obstructed by something (another unit, an impassible structure, the lack of a panel); fair. You also can't use them if the destination panel is too high above the target's initial position; also fair. But why can't you use these sorts of skills if the destination panel is too ''low''?''low''?
**Trying to attack downwards past a certain point, particularly with melee weapons, causes you to lose a LOT of force, especially if you don't want to lose your weapon.

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[[WMG:"Attack zone height problem."]]
* So attack skills that relocate the enemy like Triple Strike and Hurricane Blow can't be used if the destination panel is obstructed by something (another unit, an impassible structure, the lack of a panel); fair. You also can't use them if the destination panel is too high above the target's initial position; also fair. But why can't you use these sorts of skills if the destination panel is too ''low''?
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Badass is an index, not a trope.


* However, story-wise, Zetta (the BadAss Freakin' Overlord) is stronger than the God. Apparently BadAss > God.
** It should be noted that Zetta's title is a BadAss Freakin' {{Woolseyism}}. In Japanese, he is simply "The Strongest Overlord/Demon King"; which makes (a tiny bit) more sense since even a God among Overlords would have to bow before the strongest guy ever.

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* However, story-wise, Zetta (the BadAss Badass Freakin' Overlord) is stronger than the God. Apparently BadAss Badass > God.
** It should be noted that Zetta's title is a BadAss Badass Freakin' {{Woolseyism}}. In Japanese, he is simply "The Strongest Overlord/Demon King"; which makes (a tiny bit) more sense since even a God among Overlords would have to bow before the strongest guy ever.
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Badass is no longer a trope.


** We should also remember that this is a more eastern perception of the "god" idea, and almost certainly doesn't have the connotations of omnipotence, total sovereignty, etc. that the western, Abrahamic conception of "God" has. In this case it would simply mean that he's really really strong. And we all know that {{Badass}} > regular strength any day.

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** We should also remember that this is a more eastern perception of the "god" idea, and almost certainly doesn't have the connotations of omnipotence, total sovereignty, etc. that the western, Abrahamic conception of "God" has. In this case it would simply mean that he's really really strong. And we all know that {{Badass}} badass > regular strength any day.
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* Any more thoughts? I hope this list does not end like [[MahouSenseiNegima Jack Rakan's]] in its level of well... ridiculousness.

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* Any more thoughts? I hope this list does not end like [[MahouSenseiNegima [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Jack Rakan's]] in its level of well... ridiculousness.
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[[WMG:Why does Etna wear such a ridiculously skimpy outfit, despite her lack of... features?]]
* Denial.
** That's supported by the "Flat Chest" database entry in ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite''.
* Can you give me a reason that's really long and gut-bustingly hilarous, rather than just midly amusing?
** No.
*** PLEEEEEEEEZE?
**** It's for the lolicons.
* It's to further distract the Prinnies from their work, giving her that much more of an excuse to hurt them when they slack off.
** But by that logic, Etna SHOULD be wearing a prinny costume with a bikini.
*** Except that the prinnies are ''human'' souls. They're just stuck inside penguin bodies, not actually turned into penguins. Also, [[MemeticSexGod Everyone is loli for Etna.]] ''Everyone'', prinnies included.
**** Ah, but TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody! Why else would all of them have the same VerbalTic, dood?
***** Because in the original Japanese its a (less humorous) slurring of the ends of words easily explainable by voices not coming out of the penguin suit quite right for most of them?
****** D4 reveals that they are required to talk like that. Valvatorez specifically trains them to used "dood" in every line. When he meets Kurtis he's furious that he ''doesn't'' use it, and challenges him so that he has to.
* It's Hell. It gets ''hot'' down there.
****** Because Valatorez taught them to talk that way, duh.
** Exactly. When they go to one of the hotter places in the Netherworld, at one point, Etna is the only one who complains about it being too hot.
* "Beauty Queen Etna" wants to justify her Sexy Beam...
* She's a succubus. She's a YOUNG succubus but she's still a succubus.
** Agreed. I always have seen Etna as a... succubus puppy, but then a question arises: what are the other characters? (Imagines an adult succubus with Etna's facial features...)
* Actually, the sexy devilish character is pretty much [[HornyDevils a trope in itself]], going [[OlderThanFeudalism all the way back to the satyrs of greek mythology]]. It symbolizes the attraction of sin.
* Demons in general tend to dress in a rather {{Stripperific}} manner. Laharl is a WalkingShirtlessScene in short-shorts. When Flonne became a Fallen Angel, she took to wearing a red one-piece. Besides, it suits Etna's personality to dress that way. She may not be physically mature enough to be TheVamp, but she certainly has the right attitude.
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** [[spoiler Christo]] is an angel too.

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** [[spoiler [[spoiler: Christo]] is an angel too.

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** Actually, Zeroken from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is one to.
** Also Usalia from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is "Wererabbit".

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** Actually, Zeroken from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is one to.
** Also Usalia from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is "Wererabbit".



** [[spoiler Christo]] is an angel too.



* Killia from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is a Dragonewt.
* Red Magnus is an Ogre ''Videogame/Disgaea 5''

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* Killia from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is a Killia: Dragonewt.
* Red Magnus is an Ogre ''Videogame/Disgaea 5''
Magnus: Ogre.

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* Etna, Raspberyl, Hanako, Post-La Pucelle Priere (possibly Pram) : Succubi.

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* Etna, Raspberyl, Hanako, Post-La Pucelle Priere (possibly Pram) : Pram), Seraphine: Succubi.



* Fenrich: Werewolf, amusingly the only example of such in the series.

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* Fenrich: Werewolf, amusingly the only example of such in the series.series.
** Actually, Zeroken from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is one to.
** Also Usalia from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is "Wererabbit".







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* Killia from ''Videogame/Disgaea 5'' is a Dragonewt.
* Red Magnus is an Ogre ''Videogame/Disgaea 5''
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* Could there have originally been just one Netherworld, but other human worlds were corrupted just like Veldime? Angels are pretty well behaved, so I can't see them invading other worlds and conquering them. Demons, however, fight like mad over who gets to be Overlord, so I can easily imagine the occasional powerful demon coming in second and saying "Fine, I'll just StartMyOwn Netherworld...[[{{Futurama}} with blackjack, and hookers]]"!

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* Could there have originally been just one Netherworld, but other human worlds were corrupted just like Veldime? Angels are pretty well behaved, so I can't see them invading other worlds and conquering them. Demons, however, fight like mad over who gets to be Overlord, so I can easily imagine the occasional powerful demon coming in second and saying "Fine, I'll just StartMyOwn Netherworld...[[{{Futurama}} [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} with blackjack, and hookers]]"!
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[[WMG: So do we start calling her Artina or Vulcanus?]]
*Which name will our angel of Avarice prefer to be called by?
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** Once you get "known" for being evil and nefarious and all that, most people don't bother to get to know you and instead start interpreting anything and everything to do as evil and nefarious. Many misconceptions later, and everyone "knows" how evil he is.

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* Baal: Eldritch Abomination. Final Boss? I guess you could throw Valvoga in there and Desco as an artificially made version in training. They both have some Lovecraftian elements to their designs as well. In that same vein from The Witch and the Hundred Knight, [[spoilers: Metallia is a humanoid magical being created from the remains of a dimension-hopping Eldritch Abomination like Baal, Dark God Niike. The titular Hundred Knight is also revealed to be a fragment of the same]] Dark God's consciousness. It's possible the World Eaters from Soul Nomad also fall under this kind of heading.

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* Baal: Eldritch Abomination. Final Boss? I guess you could throw Valvoga in there and Desco as an artificially made version in training. They both have some Lovecraftian elements to their designs as well. In that same vein from The Witch and the Hundred Knight, [[spoilers: [[spoiler: Metallia is a humanoid magical being created from the remains of a dimension-hopping Eldritch Abomination like Baal, Dark God Niike. The titular Hundred Knight is also revealed to be a fragment of the same]] Dark God's consciousness. It's possible the World Eaters from Soul Nomad also fall under this kind of heading.


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** Dark God Niike from The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Basically described as a dimension hopping Baal like being in his home game, relevant to the Disgaea verse due to [[spoiler: Metallia's DLC appearance. She is a magical being borne directly from Niike's remains so she can likely be listed here as having powers comparable to his while she is on her swampy power source. Similarly, the Hundred Knight is revealed to be a fragment of Niike's consciousness and may merit a slot here with the other Eldritch Abominations.]]

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* Rozalin, Salome: Vampires.
* Kyoko, Yukimaru: Ninja class, Asuka: Samurai (hur dur)

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* Valvatorez, Rozalin, Salome: Vampires.
* Kyoko, Yukimaru: Ninja class, and since Rozalin's reincarnation's birth mother is from the same Snow Clan, Rozy herself could be one of these?
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Asuka: Samurai (hur dur)dur)
* Barbara: Heavy Knight (also obvious)
* Fenrich: Werewolf, amusingly the only example of such in the series.
* Emizel, Hugo: Both outright stated to be Reaper class demons. Emizel more directly resembles a Ghost though.
* Fuka: Almost a Prinny, but her self denial keeps her somewhat Human. Possibly the weirdest one to pin down, but the one who gets the most focus on her species in the series!



* Flonne will become a full-regalia Angel class, duh, but I think she would end up looking like Cornet's mom, Cherie.
* Zetta: Majin.

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* Flonne will become a full-regalia Angel class, duh, but I think she would end up looking like Cornet's mom, Cherie.
Cherie. Artina, Sicily, and Lilliel are similarly Angels, with Vulcanus, Virunga, and Pure Flonne as Archangel representatives. Lamington is still the only known Seraph in the multiverse, though the entire cast of Guided Fate Paradox can count as Angels, Fallen Angels, or more powerful versions of either.
* Zetta: Majin. Stella and her father in the Vita release of Disgaea 3 are also stated to be Majin.
* Pram: Her true form has the feline trappings of a Nekomata. If the theory about King Drake III being her dad is true, then he is likely an example of a male Nekomata. A blatantly stated example is Disgaea 3's Rutile, who is half-Nekomata.
* Alexander: Known as a God of Destruction, this must just be some kind of title, his brother and underlings are of the Raijin class from Makai Kingdom, so he is likely a more attractive version of such.
* Babylon: A highly advanced Dragon demon, obviously enough.


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* Baal: Eldritch Abomination. Final Boss? I guess you could throw Valvoga in there and Desco as an artificially made version in training. They both have some Lovecraftian elements to their designs as well. In that same vein from The Witch and the Hundred Knight, [[spoilers: Metallia is a humanoid magical being created from the remains of a dimension-hopping Eldritch Abomination like Baal, Dark God Niike. The titular Hundred Knight is also revealed to be a fragment of the same]] Dark God's consciousness. It's possible the World Eaters from Soul Nomad also fall under this kind of heading.
* Mao's father: Some kind of gigantic sized demon, speculated to look like Mao's Vasa Aergun attack. This seems to highly resemble a supersized version of the Baciel/Rifle Demon class. This likely puts Mao in this category as well.
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*** Zenon didn't actually escape that fate, despite Transmigrating; that's why they still exist as a separate person from [[spoiler: Rozalin]], who should have been their reincarnation. Powerwise, they beat Laharl with little shown effort, and killed 99 Overlords and 1000 Demon Lords in a single night.
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* Also, Flonne seems to have the ability to change freely from fallen angel to archangel (Which at this point is still her angel trainee outfit) in ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'''s Raspberyl Mode. Speaking of time paradox, the bottlemail ending is only one ending. One of the other endings is Laharl eating Etna's pudding, which makes her quit, become a Demon Lord, and travel to another Netherworld, [[VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories Veldime]]. And then there's an entry that mentions 1000 Prinnies being sent off in search of the Ultra Dessert, but in PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero, Laharl died and became a Prinny and Etna is a Demon Lord. Then again, at the end of the AttractMode trailer, Laharl does say this:

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* Also, Flonne seems to have the ability to change freely from fallen angel to archangel (Which at this point is still her angel trainee outfit) in ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'''s Raspberyl Mode. Speaking of time paradox, the bottlemail ending is only one ending. One of the other endings is Laharl eating Etna's pudding, which makes her quit, become a Demon Lord, and travel to another Netherworld, [[VideoGame/Disgaea2CursedMemories Veldime]]. And then there's an entry that mentions 1000 Prinnies being sent off in search of the Ultra Dessert, but in PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero, ''VideoGame/PrinnyCanIReallyBeTheHero'', Laharl died and became a Prinny and Etna is a Demon Lord. Then again, at the end of the AttractMode trailer, Laharl does say this:
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*** Apparently, DisgaeaInfinite mixes this up some; one of the entries states that Netherworld Time runs at about 1/100 the speed of Human World Time, hence why Laharl and Etna look the way they do (and guessing that Celestia runs on the same time frame, Flonne and Lamington being examples as well). Another possible piece of evidence comes from Disgaea 2; Veldime was a human world prior to the curse transforming everyone and everything, hence why Adell and Rozalin look as they do. However, here comes the mix-up: With the Dark Hero Days DLC, we get Majin Hanako, who basically looks like Etna, except that when Hanako went with Etna, it was back to Laharl's Netherworld, which means she should've still looked like her 9 year-old self if we were to follow said entry. Although this probably raises even more questions....

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*** Apparently, DisgaeaInfinite ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite'' mixes this up some; one of the entries states that Netherworld Time runs at about 1/100 the speed of Human World Time, hence why Laharl and Etna look the way they do (and guessing that Celestia runs on the same time frame, Flonne and Lamington being examples as well). Another possible piece of evidence comes from Disgaea 2; Veldime was a human world prior to the curse transforming everyone and everything, hence why Adell and Rozalin look as they do. However, here comes the mix-up: With the Dark Hero Days DLC, we get Majin Hanako, who basically looks like Etna, except that when Hanako went with Etna, it was back to Laharl's Netherworld, which means she should've still looked like her 9 year-old self if we were to follow said entry. Although this probably raises even more questions....



*** Okay, then... he's got the stereotypical hero looks, Jennifer's got everything else (including the beauty, brains, and brawn). DisgaeaInfinite even has a wonderful IKnewIt in the form of stating outright in the character bios that "Jennifer is stronger than Gordon".

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*** Okay, then... he's got the stereotypical hero looks, Jennifer's got everything else (including the beauty, brains, and brawn). DisgaeaInfinite ''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite'' even has a wonderful IKnewIt in the form of stating outright in the character bios that "Jennifer is stronger than Gordon".



* IIRC, Flonne is only allowed to wear her angel outfit for the purposes of a test to regain her trainee status; she can't wear it any other time. So she's still a fallen angel in DisgaeaInfinite.

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* IIRC, Flonne is only allowed to wear her angel outfit for the purposes of a test to regain her trainee status; she can't wear it any other time. So she's still a fallen angel in DisgaeaInfinite.''VisualNovel/DisgaeaInfinite''.

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